Grand Prix Rejects

dr-baker wrote:

Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:I wonder if I can be called a true fan of the sport if I'm not able to watch all of the races. I'll hopefully be watching Bahrain this weekend, but I don't know yet that I have a sure way to watch the rest. I hope to. Until now I've been following the sport through this site, Saward's site, James Allen's site and twitter because that's what I can get away with at work. Am I a real fan or just a casual follower?

You know that the Bahrain GP was actually last weekend, so you'll be watching a rerun this coming weekend?

Think we have an answer for his real vs. casual fan dilemma.

dr-baker wrote:

Row Man Gross-Gene wrote:I wonder if I can be called a true fan of the sport if I'm not able to watch all of the races. I'll hopefully be watching Bahrain this weekend, but I don't know yet that I have a sure way to watch the rest. I hope to. Until now I've been following the sport through this site, Saward's site, James Allen's site and twitter because that's what I can get away with at work. Am I a real fan or just a casual follower?

You know that the Bahrain GP was actually last weekend, so you'll be watching a rerun this coming weekend?

Yep, I know I'll be watching rerun. But I really want to see it because it was such an exciting race.

I consider casual fans to be a type of fan, but yes, not watching most of the events makes you casual.

If I look at things outside the box, Marussia's new car looks to have a more technologically advanced steering wheel than a body of the car.

It is amazing what in terms of perception some winning and losing with a few years going by can do! Had it been in 2006, I would have been riled and concerned that Ferrari would manage to power their way into a rule change that suited them, as I get when it is Red Bull. But now, after some random Italian bloke came to the press, no doubt sent by Di Montezemolo or someone close to him, blasting the new rules I can only laugh it off and be amused at their pathetic attempts to influence the sport.

go_Rubens wrote:If I look at things outside the box, All Marussia's cars looks to have a more technologically advanced steering wheel than the bodies of the cars.

Fixed.

I crash, therefore I am?

Jocke1 wrote:I crash, therefore I am?

Maldonado in a nutshell

The more I consider it, the more I wish MaxiAttack had retired from a race early last year. Every time he finishes a race now, it's gonna make his eventual first retirement so much more painful. I don't want this pain.

On a more serious note, am I the only one who thinks Bianchi has been really poor so far this season?

East Londoner wrote:The more I consider it, the more I wish MaxiAttack had retired from a race early last year. Every time he finishes a race now, it's gonna make his eventual first retirement so much more painful. I don't want this pain.

On a more serious note, am I the only one who thinks Bianchi has been really poor so far this season?

He's been driving worse than Chilton. Well, that was inevitable

But in all seriousness, all Bianchi's done is shite. His stock in my eyes is only raising if he can pull off a result against the cars around him, which I'm suggesting he pulls of a slight upset like beating a Sauber.

go_Rubens wrote:

East Londoner wrote:The more I consider it, the more I wish MaxiAttack had retired from a race early last year. Every time he finishes a race now, it's gonna make his eventual first retirement so much more painful. I don't want this pain.

On a more serious note, am I the only one who thinks Bianchi has been really poor so far this season?

He's been driving worse than Chilton. Well, that was inevitable

But in all seriousness, all Bianchi's done is shite. His stock in my eyes is only raising if he can pull off a result against the cars around him, which I'm suggesting he pulls of a slight upset like beating a Sauber.

It is still early days, but I do agree that Bianchi's form so far this season has been a bit disappointing - whilst he has been solid enough in qualifying and might have been able to do something in Melbourne but for his transmission issues, he's already racked up two penalties for clashes on track (one of which is admittedly debatable). Moreover, although Bianchi still has the upper hand in wet weather conditions, the performance gap between himself and Chilton in dry weather conditions is not as large as I might have expected either.

After the Chinese GP flag incident and this comment on ROTR thread:

Ferrim wrote:Meanwhile, in a parallel universe, the flag guy of the 2008 Brazilian GP happens to be a Brazilian with big knowledge of the F1 rulebook, who decides to wave the flag as Massa comes by to complete lap 70.

This is why I must change my nomination to The Flag Man! (Although, what an epic moment that one would have been...)

The rules said that:

Article 43.2 of F1's sporting regulations wrote:"Should for any reason the end-of-race signal be given before the leading car completes the scheduled number of laps, or the prescribed time has been completed, the race will be deemed to have finished when the leading car last crossed the line before the signal was given."

I can smell that this rule can be abused to fix/rig/sabotage races, so that the result can be altered. (Especially as I've know there's a sabotage incident involving "floodlight failures" in 1997 Premier League).

Thoughts?

FMecha wrote:Thoughts?

Thoughts? You're a moron. Who on earth is realistically going to do that?

It was just an over-zealous marshal screwing up. Deal with that, instead of trying (as usual) to find conspiracy theories that aren't there.

FMecha wrote:I can smell that this rule can be abused to fix/rig/sabotage races, so that the result can be altered. (Especially as I've know there's a sabotage incident involving "floodlight failures" in 1997 Premier League).

Thoughts?

Do you not think someone might notice, like they did today?

CoopsII wrote:

FMecha wrote:I can smell that this rule can be abused to fix/rig/sabotage races, so that the result can be altered. (Especially as I've know there's a sabotage incident involving "floodlight failures" in 1997 Premier League).

Thoughts?

Do you not think someone might notice, like they did today?

Ah yeah, but the flagman will just pass it off as a mistake. Ataxia is right though, I think I've over-responding to the screwup.

Fun fact: Did you know that Spyker invented 4 wheel drive?

While I found Alonso's glowing tribute to Domenicalli on Sunday very respectful and warm I pondered afterwards if on some level Alonso was trying to send out signals. Perhaps his acknowledgement of Domenicalli was meant to point out to the new boss how much respect the old boss had with him, and that, despite this season not being great so far, the new guy has big shoes to fill. Referencing the 2012 season also could be a reminder of what Alonso is capable of and of his value if not to this team then perhaps another.

CoopsII wrote:While I found Alonso's glowing tribute to Domenicalli on Sunday very respectful and warm I pondered afterwards if on some level Alonso was trying to send out signals. Perhaps his acknowledgement of Domenicalli was meant to point out to the new boss how much respect the old boss had with him, and that, despite this season not being great so far, the new guy has big shoes to fill. Referencing the 2012 season also could be a reminder of what Alonso is capable of and of his value if not to this team then perhaps another.

He might be signalling that he is ready to jump ship. Trouble is that there is not other team better than Ferrari to receive him. So he will most certainly be stuck with 2 titles. McLaren could wave with the Honda flag, yet the way they have been under performing lately doesn't help. What makes it a deal breaker, though is Ron Dennis being back in charge of the team. Regardless let's think about these signals. He praised the old boss, which can point that it was a decision he didn't support. He also pointed out to 2012 perhaps not only to remind everyone of his value, as you said coops, but to also highlight that Ferrari would have been worse had it not been him.

Oh dear.

I was wittering on about F1 on another forum, dont be like that, I have a life away from here y'know. Anyway, its a band forum and I wont say which band, allow me my privacy, but lets just say its not 1Direction and leave it at that.

Anyhoo, they have an F1 thread and Ive been waxing lyrical about Marussia and Caterham and I even referenced Pacific too to the general bafflement of the other members. Not hostility just a general "Er, thats very interesting but what about Vettel?" kind of vibe.

It was a bit embarrassing as I'd forgotten I wasnt on here

CoopsII wrote:Oh dear.

I was wittering on about F1 on another forum, dont be like that, I have a life away from here y'know. Anyway, its a band forum and I wont say which band, allow me my privacy, but lets just say its not 1Direction and leave it at that.

Anyhoo, they have an F1 thread and Ive been waxing lyrical about Marussia and Caterham and I even referenced Pacific too to the general bafflement of the other members. Not hostility just a general "Er, thats very interesting but what about Vettel?" kind of vibe.

It was a bit embarrassing as I'd forgotten I wasnt on here

i know the feeling. I was an early member on a now-defunct f1 forum which only contained around 300 members (of which only about 50 posted daily). I knew of teams like Pacific, Forti, Larrousse ect and drivers such as Amati, Langes and Inoue to name a few yet all they cared about was Hamilton, Alonso and Ferrari. Was rather lonely at the back of the classroom...

CoopsII wrote:Oh dear.

I was wittering on about F1 on another forum, dont be like that, I have a life away from here y'know. Anyway, its a band forum and I wont say which band, allow me my privacy, but lets just say its not 1Direction and leave it at that.

Anyhoo, they have an F1 thread and Ive been waxing lyrical about Marussia and Caterham and I even referenced Pacific too to the general bafflement of the other members. Not hostility just a general "Er, thats very interesting but what about Vettel?" kind of vibe.

It was a bit embarrassing as I'd forgotten I wasnt on here

Gonna assume that the band in reference is Limp Bizkit unless you tell otherwise.

watka wrote:Gonna assume that the band in reference is Limp Bizkit unless you tell otherwise.

Keep on rollin' baby, you know what time it is....

Anyway.

Should we start some sort of thread to mark 20 years since Ratzenbergers death tomorow or do we think we've covered it enough and said all that needs to be said in years gone by? Is discussing Imola '94 on here a bit repetative and/or ghoulish?

watka wrote:

CoopsII wrote:Oh dear.

I was wittering on about F1 on another forum, dont be like that, I have a life away from here y'know. Anyway, its a band forum and I wont say which band, allow me my privacy, but lets just say its not 1Direction and leave it at that.

Anyhoo, they have an F1 thread and Ive been waxing lyrical about Marussia and Caterham and I even referenced Pacific too to the general bafflement of the other members. Not hostility just a general "Er, thats very interesting but what about Vettel?" kind of vibe.

It was a bit embarrassing as I'd forgotten I wasnt on here

Gonna assume that the band in reference is Limp Bizkit unless you tell otherwise.

I was at a friend's the other day and her mum professed loving limp bizkit, while hating The Beatles.

I was speechless.

Limp Bizkit still exist? Damn

RonDenisDeletraz wrote:Limp Bizkit still exist? Damn

I occasionally still go see one of their shows when i'm at a music festival, because they're kind of like a vintage disco act to me
It's one of those times in the year that you can pull of your best 'sarcastic dance moves'

This wrote:

RonDenisDeletraz wrote:Limp Bizkit still exist? Damn

I occasionally still go see one of their shows when i'm at a music festival, because they're kind of like a vintage disco act to me
It's one of those times in the year that you can pull of your best 'sarcastic dance moves'

Yeah, I agree. Would I go to see one of their shows, HELL NO. But would I see them at a festival, yes for a laugh.

Is the legend of Ayrton Senna now just a cliché, in that it is trotted out so often....

WeirdKerr wrote:Is the legend of Ayrton Senna now just a cliché, in that it is trotted out so often....

I would argue not really. I showed my nan the Senna film last night and we were both welling up at the end (which in a very reserved English family saying a lot). The only thing about it that I sometimes take issue with is that I would say that his immortalisation has massively overshadowed Prost's talents, and in some areas of the internet he has been absolutely vilified, which at times gets a little ridiculous.

SgtPepper wrote:

WeirdKerr wrote:Is the legend of Ayrton Senna now just a cliché, in that it is trotted out so often....

I would argue not really. I showed my nan the Senna film last night and we were both welling up at the end (which in a very reserved English family saying a lot). The only thing about it that I sometimes take issue with is that I would say that his immortalisation has massively overshadowed Prost's talents, and in some areas of the internet he has been absolutely vilified, which at times gets a little ridiculous.

I guess one could argue that the film is just another example of the 'cliché' (an undoubtedly excellent one, but still).

SgtPepper wrote: I showed my nan the Senna film last night and we were both welling up at the end

shinji wrote:I guess one could argue that the film is just another example of the 'cliché' (an undoubtedly excellent one, but still).

Ron Dennis very recently made some comments on the Senna film.

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What's wrong with this picture here?

Aerospeed wrote:What's wrong with this picture here?

That's obviously not Silverstone. In fact, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think that might be Anglesey.

tommykl wrote:

Aerospeed wrote:What's wrong with this picture here?

That's obviously not Silverstone. In fact, tell me if I'm wrong, but I think that might be Anglesey.

Jesus, Anglesey has really changed then. Last time I saw it it was little more than a crappy club track.

That circuit:



Anglesey:



...so no, it isn't. Actually, who's to say it's even in this country? How badly have Reuters screwed up here?

It's the new Circuit of Wales, isn't it? The one that hasn't yet been built? The one that's applying for a government grant, but which Silverstone is opposing because they too applied for a grant but couldn't get because it would apparently be illegal?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113064/

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113021/

dr-baker wrote:It's the new Circuit of Wales, isn't it? The one that hasn't yet been built? The one that's applying for a government grant, but which Silverstone is opposing because they too applied for a grant but couldn't get because it would apparently be illegal?

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113064/

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/113021/

That is what I thought when I saw the image.

Can Grosjean win tomorrow if LH & NR retires?

Jocke1 wrote:Can Grosjean win tomorrow if LH & NR retires?

If the Mercs double-DNF it'll probably happen like this (or this).

I wonder if Kolles is gonna buy up either Lotus or Caterham? With the rumours of costs for both teams being a bit up the creek, buying up their assets would be one way to get on the grid, especially with Haas ruling out buying either

sswishbone wrote:I wonder if Kolles is gonna buy up either Lotus or Caterham? With the rumours of costs for both teams being a bit up the creek, buying up their assets would be one way to get on the grid, especially with Haas ruling out buying either

Didn't he get an entry with something called Forza Rozza?

I've yet to hear from them since Haas got their entry on the grid, so it would be fair to assume Kolles might still buy out a team. Caterham is the most likely since Fernandes said (correct me if I'm wrong) he'd pull out if the team didn't score points in 2014. Given their current pace this year, well....