Grand Prix Rejects

Python wrote:

Cynon wrote:Someone obviously doesn't watch ESPN that much -- because they don't even give a rat's ass about NASCAR either. Their commentary makes Jonathan Legard sound interesting by comparison after they dropped Rusty Wallace from the play by play. The camerawork is inane and they can make the most epic of races turn into boring drivel.

Which is kind of funny, because the commentary for the Indy Racing League is so much better (Scott Goodyear is amazing and so is Eddie Cheever).

I actually do watch ESPN quite a bit, I was more or less not exactly quoting Speed reporter Robin Miller who mostly says that about ESPN caring about stick and ball sports and NASCAR. I know NASCAR's coverage on ESPN is not all that great. What I don't like about IRL's commentary on ESPN is that Scott Goodyear is Master of the Obvious.

It always ticks me off, because there's just a little too much stuff that goes on in the pits that makes it so that you actually have to deal with the inanity of the commentators... I frequently watch stick/ball sports with the sound off.

ADx_Wales wrote:Not F1 related, but from the same weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxeBNOPZEg

The DTM never went back to AVUS since.

That show clearly why I nominate AVUS as the ultimate Reject circuit.

I've got a review of that DTM season somewhere, and that was just one of about a dozen big smashes that weekend. I think they gave up after that pile-up and abandoned the second race.

ADx_Wales wrote:Not F1 related, but from the same weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxeBNOPZEg

The DTM never went back to AVUS since.

That is one of the dozens of reasons why I like watching racing in disciplines where the cars have door handles.

Also not F1-related (well, loosely F1-related): A bit of rejectworthy driving by Ralf Schumacher on the Avus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_22ytlGX7Q
(Not the mistake itself, but what happens at the end of the video)

ADx_Wales wrote:Not F1 related, but from the same weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxeBNOPZEg

The DTM never went back to AVUS since.

It is F1-related.

Keke Rosberg is the driver of the Opel Calibra that gets spun round and triggers the whole pile-up!

And also in that DTM field were Bernd Schneider, Nicola Larini, Alessandro Nannini, Stefano Modena, Christian Danner, Jan Magnussen, JJ Lehto, Yannick Dalmas, Michele Alboreto, Giancarlo Fisichella, Michael Bartels and even current F1 safety car driver Bernd Maylander!

ADx_Wales wrote:Not F1 related, but from the same weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxeBNOPZEg

The DTM never went back to AVUS since.

I assumed that this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3fWlVZ0mAI - was the reason DTM never returned to Avus (WARNING - DRIVER RIP)

AVUS once again proves its reputation as a deathtrap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55XJ0LWSx0

John Winter a.k.a Louis Krages crashes in the same place as Keith O'Dor (though in a different way) and his car catches fire big time.
He didn't die in this crash, but he commited suicide in 2001...

Guys, that's probably enough of that. Let's go back to Taki Inoue suffering a Safety Car fail, OK?

This is the "reject youtube thread" and we're discussing a reject circuit - what's wrong with that?

Pieman wrote:This is the "reject youtube thread" and we're discussing a reject circuit - what's wrong with that?

Nothing to write home about when someone gets hurt, really. I'd say the same any time, anywhere,

watka wrote:

ADx_Wales wrote:Not F1 related, but from the same weekend http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKxeBNOPZEg

The DTM never went back to AVUS since.

I assumed that this - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3fWlVZ0mAI - was the reason DTM never returned to Avus (WARNING - DRIVER RIP)

One thing that did surprise me was that several cars had passed through before they managed to get the yellow flags out - although not sure how far they were from a marshall's post. But in modern BTCC, as well as in F1 et cetera, they are more efficent nowadays.

CarlosFerreira wrote:

Pieman wrote:This is the "reject youtube thread" and we're discussing a reject circuit - what's wrong with that?

Nothing to write home about when someone gets hurt, really. I'd say the same any time, anywhere,

I agree. Can discuss a circuit being reject-worthy if we want but ought to hold a particular regard when people get seriously injured or worse...

See, to me, that crash didn't look that bad... until I looked online and saw that it was right-hand drive.

RIP Keith O'Dor, Janspeed's main driver (who not only took Nissan's first BTCC attempts, but took a few Skylines to Spa for the 24 hour races), a race winner in the BTCC, could have been back with Nissan in Britain when Supertouring went mega, and had a bigger attendance than most premier league football matches, he could have been champion.

Speaking of Touring Cars, here are some F1 Rejects doing what they do best:

Gabriele Tarquini (1988-1992, 95; Coloni, AGS, Fondmetal, Tyrrell. 1994 BTCC Champion with the Dominant Alfa team)
Kerb Enthusiasm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ets2e9Oqtp0&feature=related

Larry Perkins (BRM 1977, Multiple Bathust 1000kms Winner)
Adelaide F1 Support race brilliance http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nflj21etu5E&feature=related
Larry in the Castrol car
With "PERKINS" across the top of the windscreen if you werent sure .

Tiff Needell (Ensign 1980, now TV Personality)
A guide to the Group A Ford Sierra from 1989 on Top Gear http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJl0-daCCHs

Julian Bailey (Tyrrell 1988 Lotus 1991)
Joachim Winkelhock (AGS 1989)
The Silverstone GP Support Race, Bailey in the #21 Securicor Toyota, Joachim Winkelhock in the #22 Schnizer BMW. Also noted for Keith O'Dor's involvement (#23 Nissan), also the Bathurst regulars John Clealand (#3 Vauxhall), Paul Radisich (#15 Ford) and Win Percy (#24 Nissan). Tiff Needell also makes an appearance in the #34 Castrol Nissan (who didn't exactly cover himself in glory trying to overtake the Renaul 19s of Tim Harvey and Alain Menu)
Part 1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgoi-xHGAR4
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vzjPGYW_fI&NR=1
The BTCC dont tend to go to the GP Weekend anymore , Alan Gow (The BTCC Bernie) has issues I think.

Pieman wrote:And also in that DTM field were Bernd Schneider, Nicola Larini, Alessandro Nannini, Stefano Modena, Christian Danner, Jan Magnussen, JJ Lehto, Yannick Dalmas, Michele Alboreto, Giancarlo Fisichella, Michael Bartels and even current F1 safety car driver Bernd Maylander!

Larini is in white/red/blue car who pushes Rosberg, Danner is in red TV Spielfilm car, Magnussen in brown Tabac car and Schneider in silver car (on the left of the picture in 0:07-0:08.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lBXF7sV ... re=related

Oh my God.

Jack O Malley wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lBXF7sVkvM&feature=related

Oh my God.

Mna, that was rugged - in a bad and slow way. And how many times did he hit the rev limiter there?

Jack O Malley wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lBXF7sVkvM&feature=related

Oh my God.

That poor, poor engine.

Perhaps the team bulit in a speed limit for security reasons?

P_Friesacher wrote:Perhaps the team bulit in a speed limit for security reasons?

Perhaps shifting wasn't one of his great talents?

CarlosFerreira wrote:

P_Friesacher wrote:Perhaps the team bulit in a speed limit for security reasons?

Perhaps shifting wasn't one of his great talents?

Yuji Ide, CVT specialist.

Here is a somewhat more reject-related moment at Avus, featuring Dieter Quester:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gzYrKYAKpU

Bleu wrote:

Pieman wrote:And also in that DTM field were Bernd Schneider, Nicola Larini, Alessandro Nannini, Stefano Modena, Christian Danner, Jan Magnussen, JJ Lehto, Yannick Dalmas, Michele Alboreto, Giancarlo Fisichella, Michael Bartels and even current F1 safety car driver Bernd Maylander!

Larini is in white/red/blue car who pushes Rosberg, Danner is in red TV Spielfilm car, Magnussen in brown Tabac car and Schneider in silver car (on the left of the picture in 0:07-0:08.

And to complete the list having dug out my video...Nannini was Larini's team mate in the other Martini car, Modena another red Alfa, Lehto a black Calibra, Dalmas an Opel similar to Rosberg's but without the blue, Fisichella red Alfa with blue stripe, Alboreto overall red Alfa, Bartels orange Jagermeister Alfa (are you watching, EuroBrun? ) and Maylander a Mercedes in royal blue and grass green.

I love useless information like this! *goes back to trawling YouTube*

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVJS4F2b ... re=related
go to 0.49 where Murray starts to emphasise on the Italian "Talent" coming through F1, first off the camera pointing at Gregor Foitek, but with Murray calling him "Stefano Modena", a rare shot of Gregor in the middle of F1 weekend, carrying his travel case in a very "oh well im off home" kind of attiude.

Frentzen127 wrote:Martin reveals he was not pleased with the car EJ gave him in 96:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jht8DVGUtUk

On Martin Brundle's Grid walk in Sliverstone 1999 MB asked EJ "why is the car perfoming so well here" and EJ replied "probably Martin, because you are not driving it any more". So MB was waiting for that opportunity to get back at EJ.

ibsey wrote:

Frentzen127 wrote:Martin reveals he was not pleased with the car EJ gave him in 96:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jht8DVGUtUk

On Martin Brundle's Grid walk in Sliverstone 1999 MB asked EJ "why is the car perfoming so well here" and EJ replied "probably Martin, because you are not driving it any more". So MB was waiting for that opportunity to get back at EJ.

What about 2000-2005 then? Brundle wasn't driving in Jordan indeed...

Phoenix wrote:

ibsey wrote:

Frentzen127 wrote:Martin reveals he was not pleased with the car EJ gave him in 96:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jht8DVGUtUk

On Martin Brundle's Grid walk in Sliverstone 1999 MB asked EJ "why is the car perfoming so well here" and EJ replied "probably Martin, because you are not driving it any more". So MB was waiting for that opportunity to get back at EJ.

What about 2000-2005 then? Brundle wasn't driving in Jordan indeed...

Probably because EJ was too busy checking out the local talent (girls!) to worry about a small thing like the performance of his team



(By the way I tried attaching that picture of EJ staring at some chicks tits...how do you attatch pics on a reply?)

ibsey wrote:


(By the way I tried attaching that picture of EJ staring at some chicks tits...how do you attatch pics on a reply?)

Get the link - http://www.singaporegp.org/wp-content/u ... jordan.jpg - then click 'img' just below the subject bar, and paste it between '[img]'%20and%20'[/img]'.

Thanks for that. I was trying for ages.

Allan McNish has a problem with his gearbox at Montreal in 2002

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Avyy-SWjY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UG-adctePU

A very rejectful Grand Prix finish...hopefully it'll be like this every race now with no refuelling

Pretty sure this was the first live GP I ever watched - no wonder I was hooked from then on, I thought they were all like this!

There are so many amazing things going on that there are a couple of things I'd never really thought about before, namely -
1) It's amazing that Derek Daly kept going competitively for as long as he did in a car with a half a wing, albeit with Monaco in the wet not needing much downforce!
2) The marshalls really were incredible, considering everything that went on. The ones that push Pironi's car from one side of the tunnel to the other must have been pretty brave.

Daly's retirement was partly caused by the missing rear wing - when he spun and knocked it off, he also broke the gearbox casing and it seized at the worst possible moment.

Pironi didn't run out of fuel as mentioned by James Hunt - his electrics failed. De Crasheris ran out of fuel.

I've always wondered what the stewards/lap scorers would have decided if Patrese hadn't restarted!

I read that Pironi did run out of fuel, and that Ferrari called it "Electrical failure" to hide this, and if you look at how Pironi was going that makes sense. Also we've failed to mention Prost and Arnoux binning it while leading, and Patrese losing the race before getting lucky. Clive James review of the race is comedy, satire gold.

Technically an electrical failiure can lead to the fuel not going into the engine (or were there no fuel management systems in F1 back then?), probably not that it happened in Pironi's case, but it happened to Senna at Silverstone in 1993.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST3ft2TcQd0
3.15 and Kunimitsu Takahashi appears!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNaifByO3Ko
Well, one of the best findings I have made on YouTube in quite a time, I think. It's a Japanese highlight reel of the last race of the 1996 Formula Nippon season in Fuji. And man, what reject names we have in here. Naoki Hattori in contention for the Championship with a certain German beloved by most and Kazuyoshi Hoshino. Also you will see a young Shinji Nakano and a young Noberto Fontana in action, along with other famous names. Mix this with insane rain and an even more insane announcer and you have gold at hands!

1 - Japanese grid girls.........need I say more
2 - CRRAAASSSHHHUUUUU!!!!!!!
3 - Ralf Schumacher has a smiley face in his name..........twice, therefore Ralf doesnt have to on camera.
4 - Kazuyoshi Hoshino never stopped racing did he?
5 - Plenty of Legendary Rejects from the past-present and present-future.
6 - Is that the Kaneshi that went on to do Brilliantly awful in the 2003 DTM season in an Autobacs CLK?

Good Reject mining Klon

PS - Fricking hell he must have had a sore throat at the end of the season.

Klon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNaifByO3Ko
Well, one of the best findings I have made on YouTube in quite a time, I think. It's a Japanese highlight reel of the last race of the 1996 Formula Nippon season in Fuji. And man, what reject names we have in here. Naoki Hattori in contention for the Championship with a certain German beloved by most and Kazuyoshi Hoshino. Also you will see a young Shinji Nakano and a young Noberto Fontana in action, along with other famous names. Mix this with insane rain and an even more insane announcer and you have gold at hands!

Dude. Funai Superaguri. How did you not mention that with this video?

thehemogoblin wrote:Dude. Funai Superaguri. How did you not mention that with this video?

Always leave a positive surprise in it for the reader/viewer.

thehemogoblin wrote:

Klon wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNaifByO3Ko
Well, one of the best findings I have made on YouTube in quite a time, I think. It's a Japanese highlight reel of the last race of the 1996 Formula Nippon season in Fuji. And man, what reject names we have in here. Naoki Hattori in contention for the Championship with a certain German beloved by most and Kazuyoshi Hoshino. Also you will see a young Shinji Nakano and a young Noberto Fontana in action, along with other famous names. Mix this with insane rain and an even more insane announcer and you have gold at hands!

Dude. Funai Superaguri. How did you not mention that with this video?

Damn you, beat me to it, damn iPod.

Anyway, HOW EPIC WAS THAT!!!!!