Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 02 May 2011, 21:44

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Do you think you could include those times for other games, but are not counted in the overall championship?

I will do so from the next round.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 03 May 2011, 10:43

Okay, THAT was beginner's luck for sure. Wow, I couldn't believe it first when I saw my time on the top of the list. :shock:

I might skip round 2. My computer broke down while playing GT2 last evening... Now I can't turn it on, but I might use my brother's computer, but then, I will only be able to post a screenshot with the time then. We'll see it.
CLK 320... hm. That'll be an interesting car to use.

MinardiFan95 · Post by **MinardiFan95** » 04 May 2011, 06:02

Klon wrote:Other conditions: Guess why I am in joy and win 0.003 seconds off your time - it is something motorsport related.

Would it be because of the great battle for the lead between Jorge Lorenzo and Dani Pedrosa in the MotoGP race at Estoril...

...just kidding, my proper guess is Ralf Schumacher's podium finish in the DTM at Hockenheim.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 May 2011, 15:51

CLK 320 has no R mod in GT2. No matter, I will try my best.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 06 May 2011, 03:59

Broke some sweat to buy that Mercedes, it's an expensive car, and on top of that my game is on the very early stages (I only have like 6% complete), but I have just got it, slapped the Racing Hard tires onto it, and took it for a little spin to get a feel to how it drives. Ran a couple of laps and already have a time, but I think I could improve it before the deadline... let's see how it goes.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 06 May 2011, 13:03

I know my time sucks, but I can't do any better than that, maybe two tenths off, but not in this state of mind what I currently am right now. At least the Seattle win will prove me right saying "beginner's luck".
I foresee the winner having a time of approximately 1 minute 2 seconds and 2-3 tenths.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 06 May 2011, 14:01

Shizuka wrote:I know my time sucks, but I can't do any better than that, maybe two tenths off, but not in this state of mind what I currently am right now. At least the Seattle win will prove me right saying "beginner's luck".
I foresee the winner having a time of approximately 1 minute 2 seconds and 2-3 tenths.

Yeah, the winner of GT2 alright. Seems like I've bathplugged up the balance quite dramaticly. The others will have at best a time of 1'15. I am considering changing the rules for GT4 and GT5, namely allowing for a weight reduction.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 07 May 2011, 00:28

Klon wrote:
Shizuka wrote:I know my time sucks, but I can't do any better than that, maybe two tenths off, but not in this state of mind what I currently am right now. At least the Seattle win will prove me right saying "beginner's luck".
I foresee the winner having a time of approximately 1 minute 2 seconds and 2-3 tenths.

Yeah, the winner of GT2 alright. Seems like I've bathplugged up the balance quite dramaticly. The others will have at best a time of 1'15. I am considering changing the rules for GT4 and GT5, namely allowing for a weight reduction.

Indeed. The best time I got in my test run was in the high 1'16s, but I know I still have some room for improvement there. The first thing I thought was "Am I that much off the pace?"

I think a weight reduction may net us GT4 players some 4-5 seconds off our times, but even so we'd not even get close to Shizuka's prediction of 1'02...

A question: May we get a deadline extension in case the rules do change? I'd need the time to put together the money for more upgrades, just getting the Mercedes drained me out of cash.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 May 2011, 11:55

Yeah, I think I will redo the rules a bit and extend the deadline. GT PSP players are screwed though. Deal with it. :mrgreen:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 07 May 2011, 12:49

I got an idea. Deduct 15% of the total laptime then.

Let's say you have a 1:16 lap. It's 15% is 11.4 seconds. That would make the laptime a 1:04.6 - and I don't want to tell my exact lap time, but it is close to the mentioned 1:04.6.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 07 May 2011, 15:49

Klon wrote:Allowed Tuning (GT4): Turbo Kit 1/Weight Reduction Stage 1/Oil Change/Racing Tires (Hard)

Turbo tuning is not available for the Mercedes CLK 55 AMG in GT4. Maybe NA tuning stage 1 instead?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 May 2011, 16:49

Problem, my game has a glitch. I selected the High Speed Ring Reverse course but it loads in the normal direction. Either I use my laptime from the normal configuration or I can't enter...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 May 2011, 18:55

OK, the vid of my lap was partially blocked on YouTube because of a copyright claim with absolutely no relevance to the video!

If you're German, watch the low quality unblocked version here.
If you're from anywhere else, watch the original HQ version here.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 13 May 2011, 06:44

I can say you won that one.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 13 May 2011, 19:36

Shizuka wrote:I can say you won that one.

I second that - I didn't even come close. Here's my result:

This time I made a video, will post it soon and update here once I do.
Edit: Here it is.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 14 May 2011, 18:16

Shizuka wrote:I can say you won that one.

I should bloody well hope so!! That lap was near perfect, I hit all the apexes I intended to, got my exits inch perfect...ok, so I had a slight oversteer moment at the exit of the fast left hander at the start of the lap but it cost me basically zero time.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 15 May 2011, 06:18

kostas22 wrote:
Shizuka wrote:I can say you won that one.

I should bloody well hope so!! That lap was near perfect, I hit all the apexes I intended to, got my exits inch perfect...ok, so I had a slight oversteer moment at the exit of the fast left hander at the start of the lap but it cost me basically zero time.

You beat me with three tenths.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 01 Jun 2011, 16:38

bump.

The deadline for the last event was like 3 weeks ago! New scenario please!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 01 Jun 2011, 17:45

Can we just announce that Kostas won this round? :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Jun 2011, 20:03

Sorry, I was a bit busy in recent weeks. Sadly though, I am currently not able to do it either since I am still dealing with the stomach issues that send me to hospital last night. I don't plan on letting this die, but I may need another week.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 02 Jun 2011, 11:00

It just occurs to me that I forgot to submit my time for this - would it be okay if I did that now?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 02 Jun 2011, 11:47

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:It just occurs to me that I forgot to submit my time for this - would it be okay if I did that now?

I wouldn't mind.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 02 Jun 2011, 13:34

Klon wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:It just occurs to me that I forgot to submit my time for this - would it be okay if I did that now?

I wouldn't mind.

Thanks. I've submitted it now.

By the way, on an unrelated note, does anyone know why Gran Turismo 4 randomly decides not to give me a ghost of my fastest time? It's really quite annoying not to know where I'm gaining/losing time because of something that I have seemingly no control over.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 02 Jun 2011, 23:35

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Klon wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:It just occurs to me that I forgot to submit my time for this - would it be okay if I did that now?

I wouldn't mind.

Thanks. I've submitted it now.

By the way, on an unrelated note, does anyone know why Gran Turismo 4 randomly decides not to give me a ghost of my fastest time? It's really quite annoying not to know where I'm gaining/losing time because of something that I have seemingly no control over.

Because GT4 is bugged to hell. My mate's disc exemplifies this brilliantly, it has more flaws than you can shake a stick at.
For example, whenever Infineon Raceway is selected, the sky looks like it would if you were high. Also, another circuit had an 'invisible wall' right in the middle of the track, but I can't remember which one it was. Also, one car (can't remember which, I think it may have been a Corvette or Viper or something) had its wheels sticking UP out of the wheelarches. It still drove and everything, as if there were castors fitted to the underside of the dampers.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 02 Jun 2011, 23:50

kostas22 wrote:Because GT4 is bugged to hell. My mate's disc exemplifies this brilliantly, it has more flaws than you can shake a stick at.
For example, whenever Infineon Raceway is selected, the sky looks like it would if you were high. Also, another circuit had an 'invisible wall' right in the middle of the track, but I can't remember which one it was. Also, one car (can't remember which, I think it may have been a Corvette or Viper or something) had its wheels sticking UP out of the wheelarches. It still drove and everything, as if there were castors fitted to the underside of the dampers.

Are you sure it's not a pirate copy? My GT4 has no bugs whatsoever.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 03 Jun 2011, 02:19

Phoenix wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Because GT4 is bugged to hell. My mate's disc exemplifies this brilliantly, it has more flaws than you can shake a stick at.
For example, whenever Infineon Raceway is selected, the sky looks like it would if you were high. Also, another circuit had an 'invisible wall' right in the middle of the track, but I can't remember which one it was. Also, one car (can't remember which, I think it may have been a Corvette or Viper or something) had its wheels sticking UP out of the wheelarches. It still drove and everything, as if there were castors fitted to the underside of the dampers.

Are you sure it's not a pirate copy? My GT4 has no bugs whatsoever.

Of course not. How can you play pirate copies on non-chipped consoles?

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 03 Jun 2011, 02:25

kostas22 wrote:
Phoenix wrote:
kostas22 wrote:Because GT4 is bugged to hell. My mate's disc exemplifies this brilliantly, it has more flaws than you can shake a stick at.
For example, whenever Infineon Raceway is selected, the sky looks like it would if you were high. Also, another circuit had an 'invisible wall' right in the middle of the track, but I can't remember which one it was. Also, one car (can't remember which, I think it may have been a Corvette or Viper or something) had its wheels sticking UP out of the wheelarches. It still drove and everything, as if there were castors fitted to the underside of the dampers.

Are you sure it's not a pirate copy? My GT4 has no bugs whatsoever.

Of course not. How can you play pirate copies on non-chipped consoles?

It might be a very early copy (from launch date or pre-ordered), too. Sometimes companies release games with bugs that the programmers couldn't fix on schedule, then roll out revised copies with the bugs fixed at some later date. Of course, the packages will never say anything about that. My copy (US version) doesn't have any of those bugs, too. Being a programmer myself, I know how that goes.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 03 Jun 2011, 23:04

Aaah, that infamous GT2 glitch where you couldn't get 100% :lol:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Jun 2011, 00:41

Phoenix wrote:Aaah, that infamous GT2 glitch where you couldn't get 100%

Or the one where the car wash cost 50,000 credits :lol:

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 04 Jun 2011, 01:00

Phoenix wrote:Aaah, that infamous GT2 glitch where you couldn't get 100%

That was good. I played GT2 to 98.2% (the maximum achievable percentage) and wondered for some time what was left to get 100%. Later I found out that there was going to be a drag racing mode - evidence of this is the presence of HKS drag cars - but the drag strip mode was cut out at the last hour... and they forgot to adjust the percentage to reflect the change.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Jun 2011, 15:03

Priceless wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Aaah, that infamous GT2 glitch where you couldn't get 100%

That was good. I played GT2 to 98.2% (the maximum achievable percentage) and wondered for some time what was left to get 100%. Later I found out that there was going to be a drag racing mode - evidence of this is the presence of HKS drag cars - but the drag strip mode was cut out at the last hour... and they forgot to adjust the percentage to reflect the change.

If anything we were lucky the HKS drag cars remained active - there were a number of cars present on the disk that were made inaccesible due to licenscing issues, notably a plain silver 2000 Mercedes CLK DTM car, as well as the Shelby Cobra GT500KR (King of the Road Limited Edition) and a rather less impressive Volkswagen Polo. I've driven all of them thanks to the wonders of PC emulators

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Jun 2011, 08:32

Don't forget the Honda versions of the Acura cars.

I really like the CLK Race Car - it's really a quick, agile car. If you handle it properly, she'll treat you with some easy wins even in the GT500 championship.
By the way, am I crazy to beat GT500 with ALL GT300 cars? :oops:

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 06 Jun 2011, 17:41

I'm going to be away for a few weeks, so any deadline for the new rounds, can it be after the 19th please?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 06 Jun 2011, 18:47

kostas22 wrote:I'm going to be away for a few weeks, so any deadline for the new rounds, can it be after the 19th please?

The way things are turning out to be, it will be after the 19th. The 19th of July that is.

Results are coming tomorrow, if you haven't send them you've still got a shot.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 07 Jun 2011, 10:47

It's alright, we can't spend several hours on GT

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 08 Jun 2011, 20:49

Results - "Klon's Joy"
1.: kostas22 - GT2 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 320 Sport - 1'03.540
2.: Shizuka - GT2 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 320 Sport - 1'03.827
3.: Nuppiz - GT2 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 320 Sport - 1'03.852
4.: Priceless - GT4 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG '00 - 1'12.454
5.: BlindCaveSalamander - GT4 - Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG ‘00 - 1'12.530
6.: Klon - GTP - Mercedes-Benz CLK 55 AMG '00 - 1'21.498
Bonus Point: Klon for handling the championship in a true Andrea Moda-style

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: Shizuka - 19 Points
2.: kostas22 - 15 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
4.: BlindCaveSalamander - 10 Points
5.: Priceless - 8 Points
6.: Klon - 4 Points
7.: MinardiFan95 - 4 Points

Sakon Yamamoto Gran Turismo 2 Trophy
1.: Shizuka - 19 Points
2.: kostas22 - 16 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 14 Points

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: BlindCaveSalamander - 18 Points
1.: Priceless - 18 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 6 Points
4.: MinardiFan95 - 5 Points

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 11 Points

Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: MinardiFan95 - 10 Points

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Scenario 2-3: "The Green HELL"

Track (GT2): Trial Mountain Circuit
Track (GT4): Nürburgring Nordschleife
Track (GTP): Nürburgring Nordschleife
Track (GT5): Nürburgring Nordschleife

Car To Use (GT2): Any car with less than 50 BHP
Car To Use (GT4): Any car with less than 50 BHP
Car To Use (GTP): Any car with less than 50 BHP
Car To Use (GT5): Any car with less than 50 BHP

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Sports Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Sports Tires
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Sports Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Sports Tires

Other conditions: Gran Turismo 2 lap times will be multiplied by 6

Deadline: 11th July 2011, 20:15 CET

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Once you think your time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail or post a video with your lap on a video portal.

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time: Please write the lap time down, we don't need another Shizuka event
Game Used:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 09 Jun 2011, 05:36

LOL!

Kostas: Subaru 360, Midget 2 or Fiat 500? Your choice

Also, don't worry about me: I'll get my computer fixed today, so I can pull off a video again. By the way, it was a 1:03.827

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 09 Jun 2011, 05:50

Doing my test run now - that reminds me of my regular, everyday road car. It's an economy car, and gets something around 50 HP too from an 1.0L straight-4 engine. I struggle in uphill sections of road - that's just what'll happen at the Nürburgring. Expect lap times of well over 10 minutes...

Edit: By the way, I won't be doing (or at least don't plan to do) a video for this scenario - it'll be too long, and I might be unable to upload it to sites like YouTube.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 09 Jun 2011, 12:48

Huh? I do remember sending in my results way back. I don't remember my exact time anymore but it was quite near that of Shizuka's. Besides, why there's two Mitsubishis in there even though the only allowed cars were Mercedes?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 09 Jun 2011, 13:16

Nuppiz wrote:Huh? I do remember sending in my results way back. I don't remember my exact time anymore but it was quite near that of Shizuka's. Besides, why there's two Mitsubishis in there even though the only allowed cars were Mercedes?

The Mitsubishi thing is due to my own mistake. Well, I have no reason to not believe you. Do you think you can remember your laptime or achieve a similar one. If yes, you can send it to me again and I will include them in the time tables.