F1RWRS -- 2014 Season

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If it makes the livery worse for us to cash in the 20 bucks then I am all for it! I almost feel like Colin Kolles begging for money! :lol:


The 20 bucks are already in, nothing can make that livery better :lol:
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2014 SEASON CALENDAR -- DRAFT II

1. Tasman GP - Adelaide Street Circuit
2. Australian GP - Bathurst
3. Brazilian GP - Brasilia
4. Mexican GP - Hermanos Rodriguez
5. US GP - Long Beach (77 - classic layout)
6. Monaco GP
7. French GP - Paul Ricard (F1 1990 layout)
8. British GP - Brands Hatch
9. German GP - Norisring
10. Belgian GP - Spa
11. Italian GP - Monza (F1 layout)
12. Mediterranean GP - Akrotiri Bay
13. Northern Sea GP - Zandvoort
14. Macau GP - Macau Guia Circuit
15. Chinese GP - Shanghai International Circuit
16. Japanese GP - Fuji (current layout)

*** Things to look up into the future:

- Expanding the series to 17 races /although I don´t really want to, as I think a season would be too long and you already organise some off-season meetings.
- Probably eliminating French and Mediterranean GPs to expand into more varied circuits - not including as many fast tracks as we have now. We´ve already got rid of some street circuits and for 2014 we´ll have 5, which I think is a fine number.
- The possible inclussion of other historic tracks/events? (remember Gp2´s track lenght is limited to 7.9 Kms.)
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Wet races idea:

As I was suggested last year; this 2014 season there´ll be a number of Wet Races. As Gp2 doesn´t have Wet Races itself, this is done by simply reducing the amount of grip by an external app. i.e. --> There´s no change in the performance of the cars or Wet graphics, but just a grip reduction of the track.

I´ve been thinking in a formula to "recreate" the randomness of a Wet Race in terms of performance. What If, for a Wet Weekend (yes, it has to be the whole weekend), I randomize a Power reduction on every team between 0 and 120 Bhp? This will be randomized again for every Wet Weekend we have. I will announce if an upcoming race is Wet a few days before. If you have any ideas on how to make this in any other way or to improve it, just let me know, or simply let me know what you think of it.

Note: There´ll be from 2 to 4 wet weekends during the season.
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Aerond wrote:Correct me if I´m wrong; current Pay Drivers are:

The Stig (Phoenix)
Fredo Mestolio (Trueba)
Darren Older Jr (Tropico)
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Ben Fleet, as Foxdale's third/reserve driver alongside Pippa Mann, is still a pay-driver isn't he? In case Foxdale is desperate for improvements again...?
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dr-baker wrote:Ben Fleet, as Foxdale's third/reserve driver alongside Pippa Mann, is still a pay-driver isn't he? In case Foxdale is desperate for improvements again...?


Of course, and he keeps stats :)
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dr-baker wrote:Ben Fleet, as Foxdale's third/reserve driver alongside Pippa Mann, is still a pay-driver isn't he? In case Foxdale is desperate for improvements again...?


Of course, and he keeps stats :)

He keeps his stats too? Cooooooooooooooolllllllllllll....... I think. Often outqualified Douglas, but often DNFed before him too...
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Aerond wrote:I´ve been thinking in a formula to "recreate" the randomness of a Wet Race in terms of performance. What If, for a Wet Weekend (yes, it has to be the whole weekend), I randomize a Power reduction on every team between 0 and 120 Bhp? This will be randomized again for every Wet Weekend we have. I will announce if an upcoming race is Wet a few days before. If you have any ideas on how to make this in any other way or to improve it, just let me know, or simply let me know what you think of it.


Isn't that power reduction window too big, creating a large difference between the teams for a whole weekend?

Also, it is said that a wet track is the great equalizer between cars, so how about calculating a power average between the whole grid and then reduce 50% the power advantage of those teams that surpass this average? For instance, team A has 700bhp and team B only has 600. the average gives 650 which gives team A a power advantage of 50bhp over the average. So we take 50% from this advantage team A has, placing them at 675 while team B stays in 600. In a wet race a McLaren will always be faster than a Force India, only less so due to a reduction of aerodynamics influence in the race. Aero being the primary reason for McLaren's advantage in the first place.
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Aerond wrote:- Probably eliminating French and Mediterranean GPs to expand into more varied circuits - not including as many fast tracks as we have now. We´ve already got rid of some street circuits and for 2014 we´ll have 5, which I think is a fine number.


I agree, nobody needs France. If I am allowed to I would like to divert your attention to Wunstorf - a German airport track; not because I actually want a second German track, but because it would be outrageous fun since the AI tends to go derpy on the pitlane entry sometimes. D'Ambrosio memorial spins everywhere. :mrgreen:

Also, would you like me to find a wet .jam data to at least have a grey sky?
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Aerond wrote:- Probably eliminating French and Mediterranean GPs to expand into more varied circuits - not including as many fast tracks as we have now. We´ve already got rid of some street circuits and for 2014 we´ll have 5, which I think is a fine number.


I agree, nobody needs France. If I am allowed to I would like to divert your attention to Wunstorf - a German airport track; not because I actually want a second German track, but because it would be outrageous fun since the AI tends to go derpy on the pitlane entry sometimes. D'Ambrosio memorial spins everywhere. :mrgreen:

Also, would you like me to find a wet .jam data to at least have a grey sky?


Yeah, the jam thing is cool.

We could also switch the Brazilian GP to Rio and putting the track in Slot 1. We could get something similar to that Zakspeed 1-2 I got in Dagnall career.
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Aerond wrote:I´ve been thinking in a formula to "recreate" the randomness of a Wet Race in terms of performance. What If, for a Wet Weekend (yes, it has to be the whole weekend), I randomize a Power reduction on every team between 0 and 120 Bhp? This will be randomized again for every Wet Weekend we have. I will announce if an upcoming race is Wet a few days before. If you have any ideas on how to make this in any other way or to improve it, just let me know, or simply let me know what you think of it.


Isn't that power reduction window too big, creating a large difference between the teams for a whole weekend?

Also, it is said that a wet track is the great equalizer between cars, so how about calculating a power average between the whole grid and then reduce 50% the power advantage of those teams that surpass this average? For instance, team A has 700bhp and team B only has 600. the average gives 650 which gives team A a power advantage of 50bhp over the average. So we take 50% from this advantage team A has, placing them at 675 while team B stays in 600. In a wet race a McLaren will always be faster than a Force India, only less so due to a reduction of aerodynamics influence in the race. Aero being the primary reason for McLaren's advantage in the first place.


Yeah, but some drivers behave better than others in wet conditions, so this doesn´t completely solve our problem. Maybe doing what you say + giving a random variation over driver qualifying and race performance for drivers (plus or minus 500 points - 500 points being aproximately a 1.20% of a laptime)??
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Aerond wrote:
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Aerond wrote:I´ve been thinking in a formula to "recreate" the randomness of a Wet Race in terms of performance. What If, for a Wet Weekend (yes, it has to be the whole weekend), I randomize a Power reduction on every team between 0 and 120 Bhp? This will be randomized again for every Wet Weekend we have. I will announce if an upcoming race is Wet a few days before. If you have any ideas on how to make this in any other way or to improve it, just let me know, or simply let me know what you think of it.


Isn't that power reduction window too big, creating a large difference between the teams for a whole weekend?

Also, it is said that a wet track is the great equalizer between cars, so how about calculating a power average between the whole grid and then reduce 50% the power advantage of those teams that surpass this average? For instance, team A has 700bhp and team B only has 600. the average gives 650 which gives team A a power advantage of 50bhp over the average. So we take 50% from this advantage team A has, placing them at 675 while team B stays in 600. In a wet race a McLaren will always be faster than a Force India, only less so due to a reduction of aerodynamics influence in the race. Aero being the primary reason for McLaren's advantage in the first place.


Yeah, but some drivers behave better than others in wet conditions, so this doesn´t completely solve our problem. Maybe doing what you say + giving a random variation over driver qualifying and race performance for drivers (plus or minus 500 points - 500 points being aproximately a 1.20% of a laptime)??


I agree. We can go with that as it seems to be a good solution. We can also adjust the reduction percentage if 50% reveals itself to be either too much or too little...
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Here are the *.jam files

http://www.load.to/692RaHsHZx/itsrainingmen.zip

The "sun" one is simply the original file. You might want to test every track, because some user-made GP2 tracks have seperate files for the sky, so this might not work for some. This is what these rain clouds look like in the game.
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Adding wet tarmac is possible but won't be too easy because user-made tracks have, even more so than custom skies, own tarmac files which would reduce the number of events that could be properly wet significantly.

As far as the wet performance goes, I'd simply say: take 5000 points of every driver's grip and then add again a random value of 0-500 points. The cars itself don't get slower in rain, they just have less grip and an adjusted setup.
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Isn't that power reduction window too big, creating a large difference between the teams for a whole weekend?

Also, it is said that a wet track is the great equalizer between cars, so how about calculating a power average between the whole grid and then reduce 50% the power advantage of those teams that surpass this average? For instance, team A has 700bhp and team B only has 600. the average gives 650 which gives team A a power advantage of 50bhp over the average. So we take 50% from this advantage team A has, placing them at 675 while team B stays in 600. In a wet race a McLaren will always be faster than a Force India, only less so due to a reduction of aerodynamics influence in the race. Aero being the primary reason for McLaren's advantage in the first place.


Yeah, but some drivers behave better than others in wet conditions, so this doesn´t completely solve our problem. Maybe doing what you say + giving a random variation over driver qualifying and race performance for drivers (plus or minus 500 points - 500 points being aproximately a 1.20% of a laptime)??


I agree. We can go with that as it seems to be a good solution. We can also adjust the reduction percentage if 50% reveals itself to be either too much or too little...


The bhp variation wont be too big but it should be quite realistic
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I'd support the wet races idea, and what Daniel and Aerond have raised, that seems like a good solution.

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AndreaModa wrote:I'd support the wet races idea, and what Daniel and Aerond have raised, that seems like a good solution.

Wizzie wrote:Finally, when asked about his goals for the season, he simply said "The F1RWRS Championship."


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I also support the wet races idea, although I will admit Melrose can be either incredibly quick or a massive accident waiting to happen when it starts to rain (Hungary 2007 is a classic case of both :lol: )

And the last time I was in a determinator mood was after the 2008 season... and we all know what happened next. :lol:
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This time however you cannot adjust the dif- no, that joke is too old. - you have to beat the Best In The World™ at what he does, so it won't be like 2009.
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Klon wrote:...you have to beat the Best In The World™ at what he does, so it won't be like 2009.


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Klon wrote:...you have to beat the Best In The World™ at what he does, so it won't be like 2009.


I AM the Best in the World :P


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The Daily Blueshell (again) wrote:THE FOX SLIGHTLY FURIOUS AT F1RWRS COMMITTEE - AGAIN
The Fox, having already declared Daniel Martins a pay-driver, is slightly furious at the F1RWRS committee for not allowing Martins to become a pay-driver. He said in a brief interview "Although I am against Pay-drivers in every way, Daniel has done something that I could not do and decided to become a pay-driver, and I for one respect that. However, for the committee to flat-out reject that, I can't believe they would give no real reason for turning it down. Even if they turn it down again, if at all they give me a good reason, maybe I'll back down and stop being such an arse. :roll: The committee hasn't been making any great decisions lately, hopefully they shall be better as the season continues.


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According to the local sources, the former F1 driver Mirko Bosevic is expected to sign with the team to a 1-year deal. The Croatian has driven five races for Arrows, and has driven successfully in other series. The Fox was interviewed briefly about this and responded that "I think that Bosevic is a very talented driver. I think he'll make the best of intentions to the team and it'll be a great fit for the season. All there is left to do is for him to sign the papers." Bosevic was not available to comment.


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It's obvious why you can't make Martins a pay driver, if you did then I'd just go out and make Sammy Jones one too, as I'm sure everyone else would, and gain the credits from it, completely negating the point of pay drivers.
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Well, you could obviously negate Martins' strength, therefore wasting all credits invested into him.
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AndreaModa wrote:It's obvious why you can't make Martins a pay driver, if you did then I'd just go out and make Sammy Jones one too, as I'm sure everyone else would, and gain the credits from it, completely negating the point of pay drivers.


Derp. Good point there. :oops:
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I hope I'm not too late for this.

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Klon wrote:https://twitter.com/#!/KayLon4Real

Haha, time for gimmick posting. :lol:


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the Masked Lapwing wrote:Aerond, how many credits do HRT have right now? Because I lost track after the chassis debacle, and I need to decide on how spend what remains.


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Warren Hughes wrote:I hope I'm not too late for this.

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It's suitably rejectful (done in Paint) and, of course, sponsorless. The grey bit is an accident due to me, rejectfully, saving it as a 16-colour BMP and losing some of my colour. I hope the colours are ok for GP2 Aerond.


It won´t work, I need the shape intact and 256-colour BMP (or a PNG, and I convert it later)...
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Will it still be 99 laps at Bathurst? Because then it should rain - and no one will finish :twisted:
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the Masked Lapwing wrote:Will it still be 99 laps at Bathurst? Because then it should rain - and no one will finish :twisted:


I don´t know if it will rain, but it will be 99 laps. Yes.
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JeremyMcClean wrote:
The Daily Blueshell (again) wrote:THE FOX SLIGHTLY FURIOUS AT F1RWRS COMMITTEE - AGAIN
The Fox, having already declared Daniel Martins a pay-driver, is slightly furious at the F1RWRS committee for not allowing Martins to become a pay-driver. He said in a brief interview "Although I am against Pay-drivers in every way, Daniel has done something that I could not do and decided to become a pay-driver, and I for one respect that. However, for the committee to flat-out reject that, I can't believe they would give no real reason for turning it down. Even if they turn it down again, if at all they give me a good reason, maybe I'll back down and stop being such an arse. :roll: The committee hasn't been making any great decisions lately, hopefully they shall be better as the season continues.


It says it in the 2013 rules and it hasn´t changed... Let´s see, Pay Drivers have their own random stats, which can even be better than those of a Race Driver, and these stats are locked and can´t be changed. A real driver doesn´t change his abilities year to year (a driver can improve over them -that´s what developments credits are for-, or can have a bad year -that´s what the high Inconsistency is there for-), and, to add to this, Martins has already invested credits in him. The only thing is that a Pay Driver can become a Race Driver by scoring 10 points or more within a season, but there´s no other way around because it would be simply idiotic.
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Simpson worried about this season's prospects
Dave Simpson is quite worried about the fortunes of the Prospec team, which was recently acquired by the Pemberton Group. Simpson has recently reported to have said "The team are lacking sponsors, and we're simply going into the season with performance upgrades to an uncompetitive car. Hopefully the high attrition rate that we saw in the first few races of last season will return, otherwise we'll be mired in Pre-qualifying." A spokesperson for the team said "Prospec remain the most successful team in F1RWRS, with two constructors championships and a Drivers championship. Our driver line-up is the most experienced on the grid, with both Gary and Dave competing in the series from the first ever race. We're sure that the team will improve over the following season, hopefully back to the heights of the 2010 and 2011 seasons."
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Aerond wrote:It says it in the 2013 rules and it hasn´t changed... Let´s see, Pay Drivers have their own random stats, which can even be better than those of a Race Driver, and these stats are locked and can´t be changed. A real driver doesn´t change his abilities year to year (a driver can improve over them -that´s what developments credits are for-, or can have a bad year -that´s what the high Inconsistency is there for-), and, to add to this, Martins has already invested credits in him. The only thing is that a Pay Driver can become a Race Driver by scoring 10 points or more within a season, but there´s no other way around because it would be simply idiotic.


I would say that transforming race driver in a pay driver is much more than idiotic. It is downright rejectful! :lol:
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How many credits do MRT have now? With all the whining I've done I seem to have lost track :lol:
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Wizzie wrote:How many credits do MRT have now? With all the whining I've done I seem to have lost track :lol:


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F1RWRS 2014 - PRE-SEASON TESTING #1. JEREZ

1. Phillippe Nicolas (MRT) -- 1.25.953
2. Nathanael Spencer (MRT) -- 1.25.958
3. Mark Dagnall (DGNgineering) -- 1.27.590
4. Thomas de Bock (Gillet) -- 1.27.886
5. Shinobu Katayama (Sunshine) -- 1.27.928
6. Kay Lon (Sunshine) -- 1.28.044
7. Barii Mori (Kamaha) -- 1.28.503
8. Sammy Jones (Jones) -- 1.28.581
9. Daniel Melrose (Jones) -- 1.28.586
10. Colin Pratchett (ARC) -- 1.28.814
11. Ashley Watkinson (HRT) -- 1.28.862
12. Jesus Plaza (ARC) -- 1.28.906
13. Nathan Scott (DGNgineering) -- 1.29.048
14. Aurelian Moll (Gillet) -- 1.29.176
15. Rhys Davies (HRT) -- 1.29.216
16. Poppy Whitechapel (GRM) -- 1.29.365
17. Andrea Acuri (Acuri) -- 1.29.429
18. Nicolas Steele (Kamaha) -- 1.29.514
19. Frank Zimmer (GRM) -- 1.29.520
20. Dave Simpson (Prospec) -- 1.29.560
21. Fredo Mestolio (Trueba) -- 1.29.903
22. Giovanni Roda (Trueba) -- 1.30.130
23. Mirko Bosevic (Arrowtech) -- 1.30.248
24. Ron Mignolet (Acuri) -- 1.30.366
25. Daniel Martins (Arrowtech) -- 1.30.441
26. James Davies (Mecha) -- 1.30.596
27. The Stig (Phoenix) -- 1.30.674
28. Francois Albertini (Shonan) -- 1.31.054
29. Phoenix McAllister (Phoenix) -- 1.31.095
30. Douglas Mann (Foxdale) -- 1.31.216
31. Jack Christopherson (Foxdale) -- 1.31.292
32. Gary Cameron (Prospec) -- 1.31.339
33. Tomislaw Tajner (Dofasco) -- 1.31.359
34. Matthias Valsattis (Mitie) -- 1.31.716
35. Alexey Pchelintsev (Mitie) -- 1.32.147
36. Hagane Shizuka (Shonan) -- 1.32.566
37. Yu Hiang Hao (Dofasco) -- 1.32.616
38. Miko Fakkinen (Tropico) -- 1.32.988
39. Saeed Al Faisal (Mecha) -- 1.33.219
40. Darren Older Jr (Tropico) -- 1.34.121
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Current accounts after Pre-Season Test #1:

HRT - 710
MRT - 200
Mitie - 150
Mecha - 100
Phoenix - 0
Trueba - 220
Sunshine - 0
DGNgineering - 0
Gillet - 0
Foxdale - 635
Kamaha - 0
Shonan - 0
Prospec - 80
Tropico - 0
Arrowtech - 75
ARC - 0
Jones - 105
GRM - 335
Acuri - 0
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