1998 F1RGP2C Season - Duel in the Desert Race

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 19 Aug 2013, 17:53

L'Equipe wrote:Voeckler "perplexed" by Moreno statement

New Williams F1 Team driver Frederic-Maxime Voeckler has responded to statements made by former driver Daniel Moreno, which left him "perplexed" as to the contract situation with his team.

"I don't understand Mr Moreno," said Voeckler. "I have a contract with the majority shareholder of the team. Mr Moreno was released by Williams, and I was hired to take his position. All the paperwork is here. I am officially a Williams driver. I'm a little but confused why he is saying he is still a Williams driver, as I've talked to [Andrew] Spokes once since arriving, and the team is also indicating Spokes isn't leaving. So it must be Moreno."

Williams team owner Klaus Mann was unavailable to comment at the time of going to press.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 19 Aug 2013, 17:56

James Davies wrote:Hahahahaha, Moreno, you are a bigger idiot than even I thought. You just got duped by Herrmann Mann's less competent brother! You signed with Wally, and Wally took his ball and went home. You've got nothing with the management now!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 Aug 2013, 17:58

Klaus Mann: FMV IS a Williams driver

After an article reputedly reporting a resolution of 'trouble' at Williams, seat holder Klaus Mann has come out to say that the 'rumours' are indeed true.

"Moreno is no longer a Williams driver" said Mann "His performance compared to Spokes as a World Champion is not acceptable. We are encouraging him to seek employment elsewhere. "

As for allegations that Williams are hiring a driver 'not used to the car', Mann announced "Frederic Maxime Voeckler is a perfectly capable driver, as he has proved at Gauthier. I feel hiring him is the right decision"

James Davies wrote:Hahahahaha, Moreno, you are a bigger idiot than even I thought. You just got duped by Herrmann Mann's less competent brother! You signed with Wally, and Wally took his ball and went home. You've got nothing with the management now!

Klaus Mann wrote:Less competent? Have you been hitting der biers early again, Davies?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 19 Aug 2013, 18:07

James Davies wrote:Hahahahaha, Moreno, you are a bigger idiot than even I thought. You just got duped by Herrmann Mann's less competent brother! You signed with Wally, and Wally took his ball and went home. You've got nothing with the management now!

Klaus Mann wrote:Less competent? Have you been hitting der biers early again, Davies?

James Davies wrote:Nah man, that stuff doesn't make me race better so what's the point? Though at least you have the sense to sack Moreno at the first possible opportunity.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Aug 2013, 20:25

pasta_maldonado wrote:
Klaus Mann wrote:MORENO! Taking Reject of the Race is der last strawen! YOU ARE FIRED!

Daniel Moreno wrote:Erm... Last time I checked Durand took ROTR for the race... And besides, you'll have to speak to my agent before you think of firing me mid-season. We have a contract, remember?

Klaus Mann wrote:Ja, you are right. I do believe you signed der contract with my ex-associate, Prince Walik.

OOC: The Manns are all James Hunts, I'm afriad.

Only your Manns, not my Manns, I would like to highlight...

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 19 Aug 2013, 20:41

Andrew Spokes wrote:Can someone please tell me who my team mate will be at the next race?!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Aug 2013, 21:03

Williams: don't waste your time with a Voeckler, get yourself a Mignolet! (also on the other hand, Prost could use an experienced race-winning driver, like Moreno)

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 19 Aug 2013, 21:32

Pieter Kickert wrote:Oh dear, it seems that Williams have lost the plot. What a shame.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 19 Aug 2013, 23:22

Andrew Spokes wrote:Can someone please tell me who my team mate will be at the next race?!

Frederic-Maxime Voeckler wrote:Bonjour Monsieur Spokes. I am Frederic-Maxime, your new team-mate!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 20 Aug 2013, 06:15

Don Rennis wrote:Jesus Christo, what the hell justa happened here?

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 20 Aug 2013, 11:12

This wrote:Williams: don't waste your time with a Voeckler, get yourself a Restov!

Fixed

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 20 Aug 2013, 15:01

Speedvision commentators recently said that Ralf Alden is ready to jump ship from Stewart to Williams. Bored with the unreliability of the Stewart and having seeing other drivers taking oppurtunity of the Williams seat dispute, Alden handed out the posibility of driving for Williams.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 20 Aug 2013, 15:16

Klaus Mann's PA, A tall, blonde, slim, German woman with...alright that's enough wrote:Klaus... there is a message for you. *puts note on the table*

Klaus Mann wrote:Danke schon. *looks at message* Ha! We have already hired Frederic-Maxime! Who does this guy think he is?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 20 Aug 2013, 15:19

FMecha wrote:Speedvision commentators recently said that Ralf Alden is ready to jump ship from Stewart to Williams. Bored with the unreliability of the Stewart and having seeing other drivers taking oppurtunity of the Williams seat dispute, Alden handed out the posibility of driving for Williams.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Hohohohohooo! This is very amusing, Alden! You actually think zat you are deserving of a Williams!? You 'ave no chance; zey 'ave already signed the brilliant M. Voeckler, zey 'ave no need of a nobody like you.

Now, you will be lucky if that fool Stewart does not sack you for zis.

Post by **Ataxia** » 20 Aug 2013, 15:37

José Alvarez wrote:I'd be sad if Ralf left to go to a bigger team...especially considering I've outqualified him in each race this season! Anyway, I'd like to talk to Sr. Stewart in the next few days because I really want to stay for 1999.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Aug 2013, 16:49

José Alvarez wrote:I'd be sad if Ralf left to go to a bigger team...especially considering I've outqualified him in each race this season! Anyway, I'd like to talk to Sr. Stewart in the next few days because I really want to stay for 1999.

Eddie Stewart wrote:Consider it a done deal. You'll be our #1 driver, if you keep this performance up! The only reason why you haven't won yet is because of those fools at Ford decided to screw us over...

Meanwhile, in Toronto...

Moreno "livid" at Williams firing, says that they will never win another championship without him
After his unexpected firing from Williams, Daniel Moreno was obviously unhappy after sending out a press conference two days earlier saying that he was to drive for the team for the rest of the season. Moreno will not sue for wrongful dismissal, as he already signed a waiver back in 1996 disclosing this, and Moreno said that taking the issues to court would be "incredibly stupid." Instead, Moreno has gone out and said that Williams will never win a championship without his help. "It's quite obvious that they need me to design the chassis," before spewing out a number of expletives.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 20 Aug 2013, 17:14

Moreno "livid" at Williams firing, says that they will never win another championship without him
After his unexpected firing from Williams, Daniel Moreno was obviously unhappy after sending out a press conference two days earlier saying that he was to drive for the team for the rest of the season. Moreno will not sue for wrongful dismissal, as he already signed a waiver back in 1996 disclosing this, and Moreno said that taking the issues to court would be "incredibly stupid." Instead, Moreno has gone out and said that Williams will never win a championship without his help. "It's quite obvious that they need me to design the chassis," before spewing out a number of expletives.

James Davies wrote: Loser, if Williams need you to develop the chassis, why are they crap now?

Barbazza · Post by **Barbazza** » 20 Aug 2013, 19:47

Frederic-Maxime Voeckler wrote:Bonjour Monsieur Spokes. I am Frederic-Maxime, your new team-mate!

Andrew Spokes wrote:Ah, bonjour Monsieur Voeckler. Good luck - you'll need it!

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 Aug 2013, 21:48

Moreno "livid" at Williams firing, says that they will never win another championship without him
After his unexpected firing from Williams, Daniel Moreno was obviously unhappy after sending out a press conference two days earlier saying that he was to drive for the team for the rest of the season. Moreno will not sue for wrongful dismissal, as he already signed a waiver back in 1996 disclosing this, and Moreno said that taking the issues to court would be "incredibly stupid." Instead, Moreno has gone out and said that Williams will never win a championship without his help. "It's quite obvious that they need me to design the chassis," before spewing out a number of expletives.

James Davies wrote: Loser, if Williams need you to develop the chassis, why are they crap now?

Daniel Moreno wrote:The engines.... It's just 1997 Renaults with bits and pieces thrown in to make the car legal. It doesn't fit very well, and it's underpowered compared to everything else.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 21 Aug 2013, 01:00

Who said I am going to quit Stewart? I'll have the CRB on phone. - Ralf Alden

:evil:

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 21 Aug 2013, 02:43

Emanuele Nicchi wrote:Yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!!!!

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2013, 03:10

Alright, I ran qualifying for Great Britain before I heard about the whole Moreno mess, so I will have to redo it. Sorry for the delay.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Aug 2013, 05:35

FMecha wrote:Who said I am going to quit Stewart? I'll have the CRB on phone. - Ralf Alden

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:No-one, you deaf fool. I said zat that fool Stewart was likely to sack you after you tried to leave 'is team.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 21 Aug 2013, 06:16

There's more craziness here between Canada and GB than all year... I like it!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 21 Aug 2013, 09:24

tristan1117 wrote:Alright, I ran qualifying for Great Britain before I heard about the whole Moreno mess, so I will have to redo it. Sorry for the delay.

You have mail

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Aug 2013, 11:45

FMecha wrote:Who said I am going to quit Stewart? I'll have the CRB on phone. - Ralf Alden

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:No-one, you deaf fool. I said zat that fool Stewart was likely to sack you after you tried to leave 'is team.

Eddie Stewart wrote:You fool, I only fire quitters! Ralf is not a quitter! He hates Ford just as much I do.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2013, 13:11

Round 8: Great Britain

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1. Rory McAllister (McLaren) - 1:23.933
2. James Davies (McLaren) - 1:23.992
3. Tom Douglas (Ferrari) - 1:24.179
4. Masta Valsattis (Benetton) - 1:25.065
5. John Zimmer (Benetton) - 1:25.072
6. Kazuhiko Takagi (Ferrari) - 1:25.084
7. Leonhard von Gottorp (Jordan) - 1:25.187
8. Damon Cannon (Jordan) - 1:25.251
9. Andrew Spokes (Benetton) - 1:25.591
10. Jörg Scrattenheim (DAMS) - 1:25.989
11. Ron Mignolet (Prost) - 1:26.361
12. Frederic-Maxime Voeckler (Williams) - 1:26.413
13. Pablo da Silva (Sauber) - 1:26.545

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14. Niko Nurminen (DAMS) - 1:26.721
15. Jose Alvarez (Stewart) - 1:26.811
16. Ben Fleet (Arrows) - 1:26.886
17. Ralf Alden (Stewart) - 1:286.931
18. Stephano Baroncelli (Arrows) - 1:26.941
19. Miko Fakkinen (Sauber) - 1:27.054
20. Clivio Durand (Prost) - 1:27.265
21. Poppy Whitechapel (Lola) - 1:27.660
22. Plinio Vida (Minardi) - 1:28.524
23. Rick Douglais (Lola) - 1:28.525
24. Yuuri Jougaseki (Volga) - 1:28.529
25. Emanuele Nicchi (Gauthier) - 1:28.536
26. Geoff Grove (Minardi) - 1:28.592
DNQ Lawrence Tucker (Volga) - 1:28.750
DNQ Johan Gustafsson (Gauthier) - 1:29.028

Rory McAllister snatches pole position from his teammate Davies in the late stages of the second session as McLaren locks out the front row yet again. Douglas is right there, however, and it looks like a three-way fight for the win tomorrow (in possibly wet conditions). Voeckler's Williams debut went rather poorly, but he will certainly acclimate to the car as quickly as he can. Jorg Scrattenheim ran very well and will start tenth.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 21 Aug 2013, 13:21

And that is our first top 10 quali result.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2013, 15:27

RejectSport wrote:Masta Valsattis steps down from Minardi

Masta Valsattis, the veteran driver currently driving for Benetton in the F1RGP2C has stepped down from his role as seatholder at Minardi. Valsattis has been the team's seatholder since the inception of the position in 1995.
"I want to focus on my racing career from now on. Racing for Benetton and managing a different team at the same time was simply too overwhelming."
The search is now on for a new seatholder for the small Italian team.

RejectSport wrote:Chris Forbes resigns position at Sauber

Chris Forbes, the current seatholder at Sauber and a professional racing driver in his own right, has resigned from his role as seatholder of the Sauber team. Sauber has not yet announced a replacement.

Basically, the seatholder positions at Minardi and Sauber are now open to whomever wants to have them (first come, first served). I trust you guys to be gentlemen and not snap up more than one team unless absolutely necessary. For those who need reminding, seatholders are allowed to make driver decisions for the teams that they are attached to. That's about it. For now, I will be the acting seatholder for both Minardi and Sauber.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 21 Aug 2013, 15:32

I'd like to have Sauber if that's possible.

Post by **Londoner** » 21 Aug 2013, 15:38

I'll happily take over Minardi, if that's OK.

Damon Cannon wrote:We've been handed a big opportunity to smash Williams now that they've sacked Moreno, and hopefully the car will hold up well enough to take advantage of the disarray and overtake 'em in the Constructors.

Poppy Whitechapel wrote:Well, another good qualifying session, but I heard rumours that the Minardi team were in the process of being taken over this weekend by some multi-millionaire, which will probably mean they'll be ahead of us again by the next few races.

Post by **Ataxia** » 21 Aug 2013, 15:47

Missed by ten minutes...dang it.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Aug 2013, 16:42

FMecha wrote:Who said I am going to quit Stewart? I'll have the CRB on phone. - Ralf Alden

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:No-one, you deaf fool. I said zat that fool Stewart was likely to sack you after you tried to leave 'is team.

Eddie Stewart wrote:You fool, I only fire quitters! Ralf is not a quitter! He hates Ford just as much I do.

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:'e just tried to quit your team for Williams! Do you need a 'earing aid or zomething?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Aug 2013, 16:48

Moreno favourite to replace Von Gottorp at Jordan
With Moreno out of Williams, there is now a sudden hunt for a drive for the two time (and defending) champion. Bookkeepers place him most likely to sign with Jordan, as even though Von Gottorp has been decent, his age has become an issue. Ferrari also remain a favourite, but with Douglas and Takagi doing a good job there, it seems unlikely that he will come in and replace any of the drivers. McLaren also remains similarly unlikely.

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2013, 17:17

Ataxia wrote:Missed by ten minutes...dang it.

I could give you some new team, or you can have Arrows if you want.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 21 Aug 2013, 17:20

tristan1117 wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Missed by ten minutes...dang it.

I could give you some new team, or you can have Arrows if you want.

If there's anything going spare, I'm always here

tristan1117 · Post by **tristan1117** » 21 Aug 2013, 17:29

I have no idea what I was thinking running the British GP as the eighth round of the season, when it clearly says that the United States GP is the eighth round on the wiki. Thus, I have changed Britain to round 8, and moved Road America to Round 9, which makes no sense geographically. Oh well.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 21 Aug 2013, 17:44

Rory McAllister wrote:Usual business. Me and James run away and leave the rest of the field to cry down in our mist.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 21 Aug 2013, 17:51

Rory McAllister wrote:Usual business. Me and James run away and leave the rest of the field to cry down in our mist.

James Davies wrote:Yep. And this time we won't have to worry about that hack Moreno crashing and leaving debris all over the damn place.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Aug 2013, 18:52

Bleh. I was really hoping for Minardi. Oh well, will need to figure out a different way to write Linari's history.