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Drivers Championship
1. Ayrton Senna 9
2. Nelson Piquet 6
3. Jean Alesi 4
4. Saturo Nakajima 3
5. Thierry Boutsen 2
6. Michele Alboreto 1

Constructors Championship
1. Benneton 9
2. Ferrari 9
3. Mclaren 4
4. Williams 2
5. Minardi 1

Prize Money
Benneton 900k
Ferrari 900k
Mclaren 400k
Williams 200k
Minardi 100k

Pole Position Challange
1. Nelson Piquet 1

Fastest Lap Challange
1. Alain Prost 1
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Ataxia wrote:Getting out of prequalifying was good, but we aim to be a regular fixture on the grid and not DNQ-fodder. Some investments have to be made...

You'll have the chance for this after the second race.

Round 2: Interlagos will be hold 7th August around 20:00 EEST
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we had a good start to our season with 2nd and 4th but we are not getting carried away. We are already looking forward to the next race
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Tyrrell are hopeful that round 2 brings a bit more luck.
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Fantastic, a point in the first race for Minardi. Great start.
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Damn, we are not too competitive. Let's hope this was because of the track.
However, we are happy with the debut of Mika Hakkinen, who outperformed his far more experienced teammate. And vice versa, Arnoux must find his pace, or he risks losing his place to Damon Hill.

On next possible test, we are testing with all three drivers on active suspension. It seems only this may help us fight for points.
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Wow, Larrousse grabbed preq 1-2 with ease :D
However, I do believe some investments will be required. Alessandro is driving fantasticly.

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Not bad at all. Larini put miles on the car, between the more cash prominent teams, and seems that with a little bit of investment, battling for minor points is not a dream. Hopefully, we'll take full advantage of the Lambo engine in the fast Interlagos.
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When will McLaren be able to test the sequential gearbox again?
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Phoenix wrote:When will McLaren be able to test the sequential gearbox again?


Testing will be available after the 2nd race which will be held in a few minutes.
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Round 2: Interlagos

Pre Qualifying
1 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:23.179
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:23.361
3 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:23.979
4 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:24.713
5 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:24.887 DNPQ
6 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:25.312 DNPQ
7 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:25.605 DNPQ
8 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:25.666 DNPQ
9 Bertrand Gachot(AGS-Lamborghini) no time*
* Gachot had a heavy chrash during a do or die lap! It is suppost that he suffers some injuries.
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Round 2: Interlagos

Qualifying
1 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:20.989
2 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:21.242
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:21.423
4 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:21.641
5 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:22.022
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:22.059
7 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:22.178
8 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:22.222
9 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:22.344
10 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:22.478
11 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:22.786
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:22.795
13 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:22.812
14 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:23.336
15 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:23.487
16 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:23.489
17 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) 1:23.526
18 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:23.532
19 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:23.557
20 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:23.596
21 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:23.637
22 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:23.686
23 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:23.733
24 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:23.813
25 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:23.844
26 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:23.928
27 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:24.012 DNQ
28 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:24.329 DNQ
29 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:24.664 DNQ
30 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:24.749 DNQ
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Hermann95 wrote:Round 2: Interlagos

Pre Qualifying
1 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:23.179
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:23.361
3 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:23.979
4 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:24.713
5 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:24.887 DNPQ
6 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:25.312 DNPQ
7 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:25.605 DNPQ
8 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:25.666 DNPQ
9 Bertrand Gachot(AGS-Lamborghini) no time*
* Gachot had a heavy chrash during a do or die lap! It is suppost that he suffers some injuries.


An AGS crashing consecutive years in Brazil injuring its driver... Spooky.

Not so good as I expected, but both cars are into the grid. It's a long way to climb up, but with the reliability showed in Phoenix, it's possible.
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Round 2:Interlagos

Race
Race 2 of the season is over. It was very gripping from the biginning. Alain Prost made a fabulous start. Alesi came second but missted the breaking point at turn 1 and put the 3 time champion Prost and himselve out of the race.(they are teammates btw) This caused that Nelson Piquet was now in the lead. In lap 5 Nakajima tried to overtake Blundell at the last curve of the lap. He misscalculated something and hid the Blundells right-rear tyre with his left-front tyre causing that he made a flight into the barriers. Blundell had to gave up because of a broken suspension. In lap 17 it startet to rain. This caused that 4 drivers(Warwick, Larini, Capelli and Moreno) spun off the track and had to retire. Everyone changed tyres. After this Modena was in the lead, 2nd Boutsen and 3rd Senna. Senna and Boutsen where fighting hard with each other and Modena was about 20 seconds in front. In lap 65 Allesandro Zanardi had a very bad accident. While driving on the main strait his Front Wing broke causing that his Larrouse was out of control. He slamed into the barrier very hard. This accident caused that the red flag was deployed. The race was over:

1 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:45:46.133
2 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:46:03.131
3 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:46:03.316
4 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:46:27.117
5 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:46:27.429
6 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:46:42.090
7 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) -1 lap
8 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
9 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) -1 lap
10 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -1 lap
11 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) -1 lap
12 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -1 lap
13 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -1 lap
14 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
15 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -1 lap
16 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) -1 lap
— Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) DNF lap 65/Accident
Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) DNF lap 41/Gearbox
Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 19/Accident
Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 19/Accident
Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) DNF lap 18/Accident
Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 18/Accident
Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 6/Suspension
Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) DNF lap 5/Accident
Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) DNF lap 1/Collision
Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) DNF lap 1/Collision
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Well, at least Arnoux's pace is returning, but slowly. This time just half a second behind his teammate, but it is the race that matters. And we are hoping this time we can battle for the points (and even get some).

PS Damn, it was a little bit better this time, but sill way out of the point ;(

We declare once again our interest to test with all drivers concentrating on active suspenion.
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So, we managed to qualify but we also may have an injured driver. Here's the plan:

1) Draft in a driver in case Gachot is unable to pick up the next few rounds. I'd like to see if Andrea Montermini or Gianni Morbidelli are able to bring £100k to cover for those races.
2) We'd then like to organise a test, where the focus for all drivers will be on the floor of the car.
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Tyrrell dont seem to be as fast as expected so we will take this oppertunity to test and start the development of the high techincal upgrades
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Ataxia wrote:So, we managed to qualify but we also may have an injured driver. Here's the plan:

1) Draft in a driver in case Gachot is unable to pick up the next few rounds. I'd like to see if Andrea Montermini or Gianni Morbidelli are able to bring £100k to cover for those races.
2) We'd then like to organise a test, where the focus for all drivers will be on the floor of the car.



we may let Damon Hill to drive. However, as we are nearly bankrupted, we could not offer any money. So our offer is to give you Hill for a race free of charge. I think it's a win-win deal.
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Constructors Champioship
1. Benneton 18
2. Williams 15
3. Ferrari 10
4. Mclaren 4
5. Brabham 2
6. Minardi 1

Drivers Championship
1. Ayrton Senna 15
2. Stefano Modena 9
3. Nelson Piquet 7
4. Thierry Boutsen 6
5. Jean Alesi 4
6. Saturo Nakajima 3
7. Alessandro Nannini 3
8. Nigel Mansell 2
9. Michele Alboreto 1

Prize Money
Williams 1,3m
Benneton 900k
Brabham 200k
Ferrari 100k

Team Budgets
Ferrari 20m$
Tyrell 6m$
Williams 16m$
Brabham 1,4m$
Footwork Arrows 1,5m$
Lotus 4m$
Osella 5,65m$
Leyton House 3,2m$
AGS 4,25m$
Benneton 14,3m$
BMS-Dallara 1,5m$
Minardi 2,6m$
Ligier 2m$
Mclaren 4,9m$
Larrousse 8,7m$
Coloni 0,1m$
Euro Brun -8m$
Onyx 4,5m$

Pole Position Challange
Nelson Piquet 1
Jean Alesi 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1

Bertrand Gachot he will miss next race because of a leg injurie.

Saturo Nakajima will miss next race because of a neck injurie.


Testing is availaible same as with pre seaon testing but you will have to rent a track for 500k.
Maximum of 2 testing sessions per team(1m$).

Next Race: Imola Friday 9th of August 14:00 EEST
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Tyrrell will undertake 2 test sessions at silverstone
the first we will develop an active suspension system to be tested by all cars
and thesecond test will be the following
Brundle-Front Wing
Blundell- Rear wing
Irivne-Floor

That should cost us $5.5 million dollars leaving us with $500K
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which tracks are available for testing?

we will make 2 sessions with all drivers working on active suspension. If it is successful after the first, we will decide later on...
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Hermann95 wrote:Constructors Champioship
1. Benneton 18
2. Williams 15
3. Ferrari 10
4. Mclaren 4
5. Brabham 2
6. Minardi 1

Drivers Championship
1. Ayrton Senna 15
2. Stefano Modena 9
3. Nelson Piquet 7
4. Thierry Boutsen 6
5. Jean Alesi 4
6. Saturo Nakajima 3
7. Alessandro Nannini 3
8. Nigel Mansell 2
9. Michele Alboreto 1

Prize Money
Williams 1,3m
Benneton 900k
Brabham 200k
Ferrari 100k

Team Budgets
Ferrari 20m$
Tyrell 6m$
Williams 16m$
Brabham 1,4m$
Footwork Arrows 1,5m$
Lotus 4m$
Osella 5,65m$
Leyton House 3,2m$
AGS 4,25m$
Benneton 14,3m$
BMS-Dallara 1,5m$
Minardi 2,6m$
Ligier 2m$
Mclaren 4,9m$
Larrousse 8,7m$
Coloni 0,1m$
Euro Brun -8m$
Onyx 4,5m$

Pole Position Challange
Nelson Piquet 1
Jean Alesi 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1

Bertrand Gachot he will miss next race because of a leg injurie.

Saturo Nakajima will miss next race because of a neck injurie.


Testing is availaible same as with pre seaon testing but you will have to rent a track for 500k.
Maximum of 2 testing sessions per team(1m$).

Next Race: Imola Friday 9th of August 14:00 EEST


Aw Bugger. Can I replace Nakajima for Imola?

Also can I rent Estoril for 500k and everything we will test will be exactly the same as the last test before Phoenix if that's all right
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Dallara will go to Imola for testing
Car1: Rear Wing
Car2: Rear Wing
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pycku wrote:which tracks are available for testing?

we will make 2 sessions with all drivers working on active suspension. If it is successful after the first, we will decide later on...


Any permanetn race track wher formula 1 cars could drive.(So mainly those frome the calander)

@Ferrari: Yeah you can replace him. Just bid vor any available driver(state if he ashould test or not) or name your test driver.
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Hermann95 wrote:
pycku wrote:which tracks are available for testing?

we will make 2 sessions with all drivers working on active suspension. If it is successful after the first, we will decide later on...


Any permanetn race track wher formula 1 cars could drive.(So mainly those frome the calander)

@Ferrari: Yeah you can replace him. Just bid vor any available driver(state if he ashould test or not) or name your test driver.


Ok then i'll promote Dalmas for this race.
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AGS will do their floor test at Paul Ricard, and as it's only one race we'll ask Montermini if he can just bring 50k to do the race and the test. If not, we'll take Footwork up on their offer of Damon Hill for the race.
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Larrousse would like to rent Imola. Also, we would gladly see other teams here. (I have a question - does each team have to pay for renting the track, if let's say 5 teams decide to go to the same place?)

I'd give Herbert the airbox. Zanardi would receive the floor. Martini should test the electrical system.

Edit: We are happy to see Dallara and Footwork Arrows joining our squad at Imola.
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Ataxia wrote:So, we managed to qualify but we also may have an injured driver. Here's the plan:

1) Draft in a driver in case Gachot is unable to pick up the next few rounds. I'd like to see if Andrea Montermini or Gianni Morbidelli are able to bring £100k to cover for those races.
2) We'd then like to organise a test, where the focus for all drivers will be on the floor of the car.


Tyrrell if your intrested are willing to buy $100K to your team if you a willing to give Eddie Irvine a arce seat to replace Gachot, the downside is that he will not be able to test for you due to his Tyrrell Commitments
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we will use Imola and paul ricard.
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Shizuka wrote:Larrousse would like to rent Imola. Also, we would gladly see other teams here. (I have a question - does each team have to pay for renting the track, if let's say 5 teams decide to go to the same place?)

I'd give Herbert the airbox. Zanardi would receive the floor. Martini should test the electrical system.

Edit: We are happy to see Dallara joining our squad at Imola.


You can share the track with other teams if you like! It is also possible that only one team pay and invite another team.
If a team say that it would like to share the track and find a partner than they will test together(and i will post the times) if not than the team will test alone(i wont share the times).
Post your testing wishes until 8th August 22:00 EEST
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If two teams share a track would they share the cost or would it still be $500K each
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If you test at a track, will you have some advantage on race weekend ?
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peteroli34 wrote:If two teams share a track would they share the cost or would it still be $500K each


They can share the costs. But it will not be as effective if more than 1 team is on the track at the same time!!!!!!

pycku wrote:If you test at a track, will you have some advantage on race weekend ?

It is possible but only with same weather and no newer upgrades on the car.
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Hermann95 wrote:
peteroli34 wrote:If two teams share a track would they share the cost or would it still be $500K each

They can share the costs. But it will not be as effective if more than 1 team is on the track at the same time!!!!!!




So if we test alone there is a better chance that the test will more succesfull
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Wow, that could hardly have gone better - I wouldn't have been surprised if Boutsen had gotten past Senna had the race not been red-flagged. I was a little worried with Modena in testing as it seemed that Wendlinger was quicker, but it's great to see him step up like that. First of many, I'm sure.

Williams would like to undertake 2 test sessions at Donington Park. We'll be working on our brand new power steering device in both sessions with all three of our cars. If someone else shows up, we'd be more than happy to show them to any one of the number of fine motor racing circuits across the UK. :D ;)

The cost should come to $3.5 million, which should leave me with $12.5 million.

By the way, would it be possible for me to loan Karl Wendlinger to teams with an injured driver? I'd like to get him some seat time.
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So close to points... still, we're looking a lot better than the real Leyton House.
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Salamander wrote:Wow, that could hardly have gone better - I wouldn't have been surprised if Boutsen had gotten past Senna had the race not been red-flagged. I was a little worried with Modena in testing as it seemed that Wendlinger was quicker, but it's great to see him step up like that. First of many, I'm sure.

Williams would like to undertake 2 test sessions at Donington Park. We'll be working on our brand new power steering device in both sessions with all three of our cars. If someone else shows up, we'd be more than happy to show them to any one of the number of fine motor racing circuits across the UK. :D ;)

The cost should come to $3.5 million, which should leave me with $12.5 million.

By the way, would it be possible for me to loan Karl Wendlinger to teams with an injured driver? I'd like to get him some seat time.


Yeah you could loan Wendlinger! I think AGS has a remainig seat...
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990

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Hermann95 wrote:Yeah you could loan Wendlinger! I think AGS has a remainig seat...


Great, well, Ataxia, if you're interested, Wendlinger can fill in for you.
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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990

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Ligier will be testing at Imola, all three drivers will be set for suspension.
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