A tribute to the heroic failures of Grand Prix racing
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Daniel Melrose wrote:Two second places in the two non-championship events is a fantastic way to end the year for Jones Racing and hopefully it'll propel me into a seat somewhere for next year. I must say though, for his inability to keep his freaking trap shut, my God can Lon drive well and his ability will be more than welcomed at the Prospec team for next year.
Mahmud Effendi wrote:That. Is. Simply. Shocking. Performance. From. Our. Team.
FMecha wrote:Mahmud Effendi wrote:That. Is. Simply. Shocking. Performance. From. Our. Team.
Londoner and Eurobrun: will Cannon drive for Autodynamics again?
Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
FMecha wrote:Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
That means you are favoring the top teams.
eurobrun wrote:FMecha wrote:Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
That means you are favoring the top teams.
The F1RWRS has been rigged to favour DGN for a long time now, it's no big deal.
FMecha wrote:eurobrun wrote:FMecha wrote:
That means you are favoring the top teams.
The F1RWRS has been rigged to favour DGN for a long time now, it's no big deal.
Look at my comment in the F1RTA thread, eurobrun. And my guess on these results is the fact Aerond not sending performance files to Klon.
Phoenix wrote:Pippa Mann will drive alongside The Stig at Aeroracing Engineering for 2015, on the proviso that you're willing to spend credits on her whenever possible
dr-baker wrote: I have not yet ever spent credits on my drivers, but I was planning on doing so for next season! (Ben Fleet definitely needs credits spent on his race performance, as does Douglas, but Pippa, as Foxdale boss, won't see herself go without!)
Klon wrote:Ben Fleet is still a pay driver, isn't he? No such thing as investing on pay drivers.
Wizzie wrote:OI! You're not allowed to spend credits on drivers that aren't racing for your team, mate. And since you were stupid enough to keep Douglas instead of Pippa, you can't spend any credits on her.
Foxdale Auto Racing Team Press Release
As from the 2015 season, Foxdale Auto Racing Team will become Foxdale Auto Racing Team Featuring West Cliff Racing. This is as a result of Foxdale having used the name of Douglas Mann's original F1RWRS team in the Bathurst 24 Hours for their second team without challenge from any of the other team owners. There is, of course, precedence for using a former team's name in conjunction with a current team's name (namely Pacific Team Lotus in Formula One in 1995), and Foxdale would like to continue this wonderfully rejectful tradition into the 2015 F1RWRS season.
In practice, what this means is that in the F1RWRS series, the team will continue to be known simply as Foxdale, while the West Cliff name will be used whenever the team enters an alternative series. Both names would essentially be the same team, but with the Foxdale name reserved for the premier category in which the team is competing.
In other news, Ephran One Jnr (otherwise known as Eff One), the little-known driver/journalist, has died in the past week. The cause of death is currently unknown. His sole recent start was for Foxdale in the recent F3RWRS Invitational race alongside Martin McFry, to add to his race career prior to his journalism for 'F1 News' in the 1990s. Condolences go to his widow and his children (whom he often referred to as his 'little Effers').
dr-baker wrote:Wizzie wrote:OI! You're not allowed to spend credits on drivers that aren't racing for your team, mate. And since you were stupid enough to keep Douglas instead of Pippa, you can't spend any credits on her.
You can tell I've never spent credits on my drivers before, can't you?!
Wizzie wrote:dr-baker wrote:Wizzie wrote:OI! You're not allowed to spend credits on drivers that aren't racing for your team, mate. And since you were stupid enough to keep Douglas instead of Pippa, you can't spend any credits on her.
You can tell I've never spent credits on my drivers before, can't you?!
I haven't either. Therefore, what point are you trying to make?
dr-baker wrote:Wizzie wrote:dr-baker wrote:You can tell I've never spent credits on my drivers before, can't you?!
I haven't either. Therefore, what point are you trying to make?
That you pay attention to the rules that you don't take advantage of, and I don't?
Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
Klon wrote:Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
I did. Take a look at this, this is what my carset's performance looks like.
Only two obvious things to criticise here would be MRT not being strong enough and Lon/Melrose, the Manns and Zimmers being too strong - this, together with the grid being close to each other, lies in the original settings where I only had a few BHP between cars to give since I wanted to achieve realistic lap times and drivers (which were put into three categories as far as experience goes which determined their grip) were therefore much more important. To make amends for this closeness, the Random Grip Range has been decreased significantly.
These qualifying and race results are presumably due to the problem of running a race at such low speeds which did not work out quite as well as it should have. I accept fault for that but other than that my conscience is clear as far as trying to make a fair race with actual strengths considered. And if you still think I have committed an unforgivable crime, unwillingly spitting in the face of your performance files and therefore by extension spitting in your face and don't want me to run non-championship races anymore then that's okay with me, it's not my loss - I don't have to do this, you know.
Klon wrote:I divided drivers in three categories - the first with most grip were experienced F1RWRS drivers (such as Sammy Jones, Thomas De Bock etc.), the second were inexperienced F1RWRS drivers and good F2RWRS drivers (such as Jean-Luc Schiller, Alberto Cara etc.) and the final category was lower-tier F2RWRS drivers, F3RWRS drivers and unsorted drivers (such as Michael Cameron, Chacko Palaniappan etc.). With there being obviously two drivers a car, the average strength was taken. The grip difference possible with this system is 200 - which may have been a bit too low in hindsight, but that's that - with a random grip range of 123.
BHP ranged from 600-589 (I started out with 80-68 for realistic lap times which led to cars on the dirty side nearly stalling at the start of a race which would have made the results completely random), ordered by Constructor's Championship position with a small step down to 587 for Donkervoort.
Wizzie wrote:BINGO! You made the difference between the engines far too low which was why you had Mechas finishing 3rd and 4th and all sorts of other crazy stuff. Should have been closer to 20bhp difference between each car. What was the maximum and minimum values of each driver pairing, by the way?
Klon wrote:Wizzie wrote:BINGO! You made the difference between the engines far too low which was why you had Mechas finishing 3rd and 4th and all sorts of other crazy stuff. Should have been closer to 20bhp difference between each car. What was the maximum and minimum values of each driver pairing, by the way?
20 BHP difference per car would lead to the differences being too much emphasised. While I obviously tried to respect the actual team performances I wanted a close race with driver performance being the more important thing (we are talking about what some people consider the ultimate driver track after all). The insane performance of the Mechas is just down to a bit of luck and GP2, as we/I had to learn the hard way, handling low speeds very badly.
Wizzie wrote:Ok. 20 may be a bit much but surely 5-10bhp would have been within the ballpark. And even if it is the ultimate driver's track, Sabine Schmitz, as brilliant as she is, in a Ford Transit van couldn't beat Clarkson and his Jaaaaag.
Daniel Melrose wrote:Two second places in the two non-championship events is a fantastic way to end the year for Jones Racing and hopefully it'll propel me into a seat somewhere for next year. I must say though, for his inability to keep his freaking trap shut, my God can Lon drive well and his ability will be more than welcomed at the Prospec team for next year.
Kay Lon wrote:I will have to give that compliment right back at you, especially that first stint was a stuff of beauty. Just sad that this damn Goodyear tire had to blow up on me. Anyway, it was good to work with the guys at Jones once more, thankfully they haven't forgotten me, hehe. With this, a so-and-so 2014 is past and now I will try my best to join Prospec in their rebuilding process.
Aerond wrote:Anyway, don't take my previous comment seriously as you can run the NC races anyway you want to
Aerond wrote:You're free to go with the ROTY nominations. I won't be at home until the weekend.
Klon wrote:Reject Of The Year nominations:
Honorable mentions:
Kay Lon - While his second half of the season was very good, the first part of it was mostly very disappointing.
BMW - No championship challenge with such engines.
Nathanael Spencer - Got his arse handed to him by surprise of the season Nicolas.
Scuderia Trueba Alitalia - A bad team taken over by a bad manager with a disturbing lack of common sense.
Tropico Grand Prix powered by CR Motorsport - New management with a lot of hype around it but nothing came from it.
New teams in general - Aside from Acuri, it is eerily realistic how they fare.
Third place:
Daniel Martins - He shamed the great #9 which has had so much meaning in F1RWRS history by doing nothing with it.
Second place:
Prospec - While their 2013 season was not gold standard either, this time around they really embarrassed themselves, depending on pay drivers and having their stars retiring or leaving.
And the winner:
Jack Christopherson - He did literally sod all in a car that was more than capable of points.
redbulljack14 wrote:Plus, interesting to nominate your own driver, people always seem to care more about the second half of the season and not give a toss about the first half.
eurobrun wrote:FMecha wrote:Aerond wrote:Klon, what sh*t those results are? You´re supposed to respect the performance of the cars in the main series. From now on, I propose only Wizzie and TMLW hold non-championship races, specially if we´re talking about licenses
That means you are favoring the top teams.
The F1RWRS has been rigged to favour DGN for a long time now, it's no big deal.
Autosport wrote:Prince Falik delighted with non championship results.
In a rare moment, Prince Falik was delighted with Mirko Bosevic round win in the Budweiser World 800 and with Rosco Vantini and his shared 8th place at the Luxembourg GP. He said "I am delighted with the win, it does show that the Arrowtech for 2015 will be strong and we are hoping to massively improve, the money that Prince Saeed Al Faisal brings in as well as his talent and the talent of Bosevic should move us up the field. Rosco Vantini drove a conservative race but was rewarded with an 8th place, once he gets into the Jones car he will impress a lot more."
Rosco Vantini very happy.
After the Luxembourg GP, Rosco Vantini said "I am glad I was given a chance to race in a F1RWRS car it is much quicker and stops faster then a F2RWRS car, I think I will get more practice during winter testing. The race was a fun day out and I am glad I brought the car home in 8th, I am verry 'appy!"
Barii Mori questions experts
Barii Mori waded into the debate of the top ten drivers of the year by saying "What were these experts smoking as they must have been seeing a different race if they think Kay Lon was a top ten driver after being outdriven by his team mate and even not qualifying for a race. I scored more points then he did and I get something on the lines of "Did not improve", I seriously question what these experts are on."
Mecha racing using old DGNerring cars?
There were eyebrows raised when Mecha stormed to 3rd and 4th in the Luxembourg GP, although our eagle eyed journalists noticed that they were not using their normal cars and the cars did look like DGNerring cars painted as Mecha cars. DGN and Mecha refused to answer our questions.
SuperAguri wrote:Mecha racing using old DGNerring cars?
There were eyebrows raised when Mecha stormed to 3rd and 4th in the Luxembourg GP, although our eagle eyed journalists noticed that they were not using their normal cars and the cars did look like DGNerring cars painted as Mecha cars. DGN and Mecha refused to answer our questions.
James Davies wrote:Didn't I already joss this? Those cars handled Mecha bad out there, there's no way those were DGNgineering cars.
dr-baker wrote:Noticing that Jack Christopherson has a ROTY nomination, if he does win the coveted title, who gets the credits associated with it?
kostas22 wrote:If Christopherson wins, I think Foxdale should get half the original amount of the ROTY award, considering he did exactly half the season for them and did not drive elsewhere afterwards.
dr-baker wrote:Foxdale Auto Racing Team Press Release
As from the 2015 season, Foxdale Auto Racing Team will become Foxdale Auto Racing Team Featuring West Cliff Racing. This is as a result of Foxdale having used the name of Douglas Mann's original F1RWRS team in the Bathurst 24 Hours for their second team without challenge from any of the other team owners. There is, of course, precedence for using a former team's name in conjunction with a current team's name (namely Pacific Team Lotus in Formula One in 1995), and Foxdale would like to continue this wonderfully rejectful tradition into the 2015 F1RWRS season.
In practice, what this means is that in the F1RWRS series, the team will continue to be known simply as Foxdale, while the West Cliff name will be used whenever the team enters an alternative series. Both names would essentially be the same team, but with the Foxdale name reserved for the premier category in which the team is competing.
In other news, Ephran One Jnr (otherwise known as Eff One), the little-known driver/journalist, has died in the past week. The cause of death is currently unknown. His sole recent start was for Foxdale in the recent F3RWRS Invitational race alongside Martin McFry, to add to his race career prior to his journalism for 'F1 News' in the 1990s. Condolences go to his widow and his children (whom he often referred to as his 'little Effers').
Foxdale Auto Racing Team Featuring West Cliff Racing have also released their livery for the 2012 season:
Damon Cannon wrote:
Poppy Whitechapel wrote:At least we managed the top 10 here, so I do finish the season on a high, of sorts. Bring on 2015.
AdrianSutil wrote:dr-baker wrote:Noticing that Jack Christopherson has a ROTY nomination, if he does win the coveted title, who gets the credits associated with it?
I assume it's either the team he drove for or the member who controls him, which will most likely go to the team that member also controls. Bit hazy innit.
