Grand Prix Rejects

Went onto a shopping rampage, this is my current PS2 collection, add Street Racing Syndicate, Red Faction 1-2, Juiced and GT Racers to the list. If I'm lucky, I can grab Enthusia up too. Yes, I like obscure console ports.

I'm also starting to pick up games for the PC too: I got Dishonored (50% off at a convention a month after release!), Rogue Warrior, SW: Republic Commando, Revolution, Overspeed so far... and a few budget racing games too.

About FIFA: it is interesting that we in HWNSNBM-land get Hungarian commentary on the games. It has been like that for 5 years now. I can link in a clip - if I can find one - and write a transcription for it, if you'd like.
I remember having a football game on PS1, where you could choose something like All-stars team, and such, and my brother always beat the opposition to something like 30-1 on professional - or hardest? forgot that... - difficulty.

Shizuka wrote:Went onto a shopping rampage, this is my current PS2 collection, add Street Racing Syndicate, Red Faction 1-2, Juiced and GT Racers to the list. If I'm lucky, I can grab Enthusia up too. Yes, I like obscure console ports.

I'm also starting to pick up games for the PC too: I got Dishonored (50% off at a convention a month after release!), Rogue Warrior, SW: Republic Commando, Revolution, Overspeed so far... and a few budget racing games too.

About FIFA: it is interesting that we in HWNSNBM-land get Hungarian commentary on the games. It has been like that for 5 years now. I can link in a clip - if I can find one - and write a transcription for it, if you'd like.
I remember having a football game on PS1, where you could choose something like All-stars team, and such, and my brother always beat the opposition to something like 30-1 on professional - or hardest? forgot that... - difficulty.

World Class was hardest difficulty back then.

Then legendary came along, and I think there's also Ultimate now.

kostas22 wrote:Ah, Fifa commentary...I hate all the English commentators, but instead of turning it off, I switched it to French! As a Hibernian fan, it's perfect that Hervé Mathoux's player expert co-commentator is Franck Sauzée

I actually do similar things, although I do switch from German to English commentary. The English commentary isn't as intrusive as the German one, and they don't bash you, if you've lost a match .

Ferrarist wrote:

kostas22 wrote:Ah, Fifa commentary...I hate all the English commentators, but instead of turning it off, I switched it to French! As a Hibernian fan, it's perfect that Hervé Mathoux's player expert co-commentator is Franck Sauzée

I actually do similar things, although I do switch from German to English commentary. The English commentary isn't as intrusive as the German one, and they don't bash you, if you've lost a match .

I switch from Portuguese to English as the Portuguese commentary have the slight problem of having nothing to do with the ongoing match!

I bought Ridge Racer Unbounded today...I can't tell whether I like it or not. It's...not very Ridge Racer-y but I find the 'power' system great fun.

Essentially, you build up power by drifting (like in the other RR games for nitrous), slipstreaming or destroying things, and with this power it provides you with some kind of superhuman boost that makes the world your bitch for about 5 seconds. You can therefore take other cars out, or find shortcuts in areas not previously accessible.

BaconLettuceNinja wrote:I bought Ridge Racer Unbounded today...I can't tell whether I like it or not. It's...not very Ridge Racer-y but I find the 'power' system great fun.

Essentially, you build up power by drifting (like in the other RR games for nitrous), slipstreaming or destroying things, and with this power it provides you with some kind of superhuman boost that makes the world your bitch for about 5 seconds. You can therefore take other cars out, or find shortcuts in areas not previously accessible.

I bought Unbounded the other day as well, and I expected it to be a lot like the Flat-Out series given it was developed by Bugbear. Instead, I think it feels like a strange hybrid of Burnout, the aforementioned Flat-Out and a bit of the traditional Ridge Racer drifting added in to stay true to the name. The power system is great fun to use when used correctly, but it is rather frustrating when it runs out just as you're about to smash through a building. Another thing that slightly annoys me is that if you lightly hit an unbreakable object on the inside of a corner, it sometimes sends the car into a huge crash, as if the laws of physics do not apply whilst on the 'You Crashed' camera.

I am suprised no-one has mentioned Type 4 (proably the last good Ridge Racer game?) yet when we are talking Unbounded. Something I want to tell you that if you win with the Mappy team (the easiest but slow one), [spoiler alert] team manager Sophie Cavalier will speak publicocrap. (Skip to 8:54)

And today is the anniversary day of Gran Turismo. 15 years ago, in Japan. December 23, 1997. The first Gran Turismo game is released.

FMecha wrote:I am suprised no-one has mentioned Type 4 (proably the last good Ridge Racer game?) yet when we are talking Unbounded. Something I want to tell you that if you win with the Mappy team (the easiest but slow one), [spoiler alert] team manager Sophie Cavalier will speak publicocrap. (Skip to 8:54)

And today is the anniversary day of Gran Turismo. 15 years ago, in Japan. December 23, 1997. The first Gran Turismo game is released.

I enjoy Type 4 because it has some of the best original music for a racing game (F-Zero GX and R4 are probably 1-2) and the atmosphere that exists in the RRR GP. It does feel like a special event even though you have to constantly do the game mode over and over again to get ALL the cars. I enjoy how Sophie is completely clueless to what's going on in the team, I seriously want a gimmick like her's to exist in a Team Principal in the RWRS.

I still play GT1 on a semi-regular basis. The Racing Modifications rock my socks to this day, and It makes me sad that there are only 15 or so in GT5. And also I'm uploading full replays of each race of GT1's simulation mode as well. One of the things that people always rag on GT for having sub-standard of is the Ai, but I find the Ai in GT1 to be actually quite good if you don't drive a Castrol Supra GT in every race, which shows in some of the videos. I have no shame.

RealRacingRoots wrote:

FMecha wrote:I am suprised no-one has mentioned Type 4 (proably the last good Ridge Racer game?) yet when we are talking Unbounded. Something I want to tell you that if you win with the Mappy team (the easiest but slow one), [spoiler alert] team manager Sophie Cavalier will speak publicocrap. (Skip to 8:54)

And today is the anniversary day of Gran Turismo. 15 years ago, in Japan. December 23, 1997. The first Gran Turismo game is released.

I enjoy Type 4 because it has some of the best original music for a racing game (F-Zero GX and R4 are probably 1-2) and the atmosphere that exists in the RRR GP. It does feel like a special event even though you have to constantly do the game mode over and over again to get ALL the cars. I enjoy how Sophie is completely clueless to what's going on in the team, I seriously want a gimmick like her's to exist in a Team Principal in the RWRS.

I still play GT1 on a semi-regular basis. The Racing Modifications rock my socks to this day, and It makes me sad that there are only 15 or so in GT5. And also I'm uploading full replays of each race of GT1's simulation mode as well. One of the things that people always rag on GT for having sub-standard of is the Ai, but I find the Ai in GT1 to be actually quite good if you don't drive a Castrol Supra GT in every race, which shows in some of the videos. I have no shame.

Love the R4 soundtrack. Regulary listen to it in my real life car. I prefer GT2 over GT1 however. I feel that GT2 has more diverse range of cars to choose from, as well as tracks. Plus I love how you can turn alomost every vehicle into a rally car of sorts.

DOSBoot wrote:Love the R4 soundtrack. Regulary listen to it in my real life car. I prefer GT2 over GT1 however. I feel that GT2 has more diverse range of cars to choose from, as well as tracks. Plus I love how you can turn alomost every vehicle into a rally car of sorts.

CRX del sol LM Edition on Tahiti Maze - ruthless.

Shizuka wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:Love the R4 soundtrack. Regulary listen to it in my real life car. I prefer GT2 over GT1 however. I feel that GT2 has more diverse range of cars to choose from, as well as tracks. Plus I love how you can turn alomost every vehicle into a rally car of sorts.

CRX del sol LM Edition on Tahiti Maze - ruthless.

And FTO LM. I also made a R32 GT-R into a rally car (Nissan, y u no do that? ).

Back to R4, the Terrazi Starlight must be something FIA dreamed of their "canopy on F1 cars" idea. (The Assoluto Squalo and Lizard Reckless looks somewhat open-wheelish, but their sidepods was covered, so I don't count them)
And don't get me started on mentioning this game's fanservice, else I'd play Baker's Law card here.

End of the line for production of PlayStation 2 (but not the games)

Discuss.

I didn't even know they were still making those. Oh well. Strange since I just bought one less than 6 months ago. (Older model.) Just started getting into GT3, and GT4. Have yet to buy some of the system's definitive titles. But most of them are dirt cheap now, so I better get some of the good RPGs before they go up in price again like it did with the PS1. Guess I bought mine at the right time.

DOSBoot wrote:I didn't even know they were still making those. Oh well. Strange since I just bought one less than 6 months ago. (Older model.) Just started getting into GT3, and GT4. Have yet to buy some of the system's definitive titles. But most of them are dirt cheap now, so I better get some of the good RPGs before they go up in price again like it did with the PS1. Guess I bought mine at the right time.

Same here, but I got a first-gen slimline one (70004 model).
Yeah, the games now are seriously cheap, I haven't paid 10+ GBP yet for any game.

FMecha wrote:End of the line for production of PlayStation 2 (but not the games)

Discuss.

It was always gonna happen someday. But damn it had a good run. Truly the Volkswagen Beetle of videogame consoles.

Shizuka wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:I didn't even know they were still making those. Oh well. Strange since I just bought one less than 6 months ago. (Older model.) Just started getting into GT3, and GT4. Have yet to buy some of the system's definitive titles. But most of them are dirt cheap now, so I better get some of the good RPGs before they go up in price again like it did with the PS1. Guess I bought mine at the right time.

Same here, but I got a first-gen slimline one (70004 model).
Yeah, the games now are seriously cheap, I haven't paid 10+ GBP yet for any game.

There's a store not far from where I live that sells some PS2 games at 5 for $10. Although some of the better ones are a bit more. I had a similar thing like that happen to me back in 2005 when the PS1 was finally discontinued. While everyone was getting rid of their games, I was buying them. At one games store, I was able to get most of the Final Fantasy games shrinkwrapped, for less than $20 each. I regret opening them now, since FFVII was one of them, and that can easily go for over $1000 in that condition.

East Londoner wrote:It gets better than that. I've just signed a young Polish midfielder from Real Betis, and his first name is...Semen.

Sorry for the ridiculous bump, but Semën (pronounced "Sem-yon") is a common Russian/Slavic name which corresponds with the English Simon or Simeon. Another example of why indiscriminately dropping diacritics when transcribing foreign names into English is bad practice...

midgrid wrote:Sorry for the ridiculous bump, but Semën (pronounced "Sem-yon") is a common Russian/Slavic name which corresponds with the English Simon or Simeon. Another example of why indiscriminately dropping diacritics when transcribing foreign names into English is bad practice...

Slovak ice hockey player Miroslav Šatan agrees with you.

Any of you guys play Star Wars The World Republic as a free player? And is it worth it?

DanielPT wrote:Any of you guys play Star Wars The World Republic as a free player? And is it worth it?

Pretty sure that's The Old Republic, chief.

Also, I haven't played it, mostly because I was a big fan of Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 (2 especially), and this came out instead of a KoTOR 3. And I'm pretty annoyed about that. Though I have heard that they put some odd restrictions on free-to-play players, so you might want to look up what they actually did with that.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:

DanielPT wrote:Any of you guys play Star Wars The World Republic as a free player? And is it worth it?

Pretty sure that's The Old Republic, chief.

Yes it is. My mind was certainly somewhere else...

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Also, I haven't played it, mostly because I was a big fan of Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 (2 especially), and this came out instead of a KoTOR 3. And I'm pretty annoyed about that. Though I have heard that they put some odd restrictions on free-to-play players, so you might want to look up what they actually did with that.

I too was great fan (still am and still go back and play them) of the KoTOR series. Thing is, SWTOR is story driven and that is mostly why I play RPGs so I was hoping to be able to enjoy the whole story in solo mode (not Han Solo mode, mind you ) without much nuisances (like them trying to force me into spending money) and then drop the game at the end of it. As you see, it is not the MMO part that I am looking for...

DanielPT wrote:

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Also, I haven't played it, mostly because I was a big fan of Knights of the Old Republic 1 and 2 (2 especially), and this came out instead of a KoTOR 3. And I'm pretty annoyed about that. Though I have heard that they put some odd restrictions on free-to-play players, so you might want to look up what they actually did with that.

I too was great fan (still am and still go back and play them) of the KoTOR series. Thing is, SWTOR is story driven and that is mostly why I play RPGs so I was hoping to be able to enjoy the whole story in solo mode (not Han Solo mode, mind you ) without much nuisances (like them trying to force me into spending money) and then drop the game at the end of it. As you see, it is not the MMO part that I am looking for...

Yeah, well, like I said, I haven't played the game so I can't comment that much on it, and I haven't really heard much about the story. I think the free to play mechanics basically require more grinding, though.

FMecha wrote:

Shizuka wrote:

DOSBoot wrote:Love the R4 soundtrack. Regulary listen to it in my real life car. I prefer GT2 over GT1 however. I feel that GT2 has more diverse range of cars to choose from, as well as tracks. Plus I love how you can turn alomost every vehicle into a rally car of sorts.

CRX del sol LM Edition on Tahiti Maze - ruthless.

And FTO LM. I also made a R32 GT-R into a rally car (Nissan, y u no do that? ).

Back to R4, the Terrazi Starlight must be something FIA dreamed of their "canopy on F1 cars" idea. (The Assoluto Squalo and Lizard Reckless looks somewhat open-wheelish, but their sidepods was covered, so I don't count them)
And don't get me started on mentioning this game's fanservice, else I'd play Baker's Law card here.

I managed to turn a Pulsar GTi-R into a firebreathing, 560 bhp rally car that could lap Autumn Ring Mini in less than half a minute my 1020 bhp R33 Skyline was also a source of personal pride, although I had spent no money upgrading tyres, suspension etc, so as you can imagine, it handled BRUTALLY

I miss my 900+ hp Mitsubishi GTO from GT1. That thing was absurd.

In Forza 2 I had a VW Golf cranking out 670hp. Understeered like a bitch though!

I want to turn my Mazda Mx-5 Superlight in Forza 4 into a lean,mean Le Mans machine.

WaffleCat wrote:I want to turn my Mazda Mx-5 Superlight in Forza 4 into a lean,mean Le Mans machine.

Not as daft as converting a Smart For Two into a Dakar Rally machine.

Oh wait...

I remember tuning the road version of Honda S800 in GT4 to the max. Darn thing squealed like a little pig and was fast as hell considering how small it was.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I miss my 900+ hp Mitsubishi GTO from GT1. That thing was absurd.

I still have no idea how it could dish out 400 km/h+ without any finetune to the car.

My collection is now start to fill up the whole space designed for it
Got GT-R Racers, Street Racing Syndicate, Juiced, and the first two Red Faction games in for the PS2. Still waiting for Enthusia to arrive. I also got some PC games for ~3 quid each from my friend: NFS Underground, Prostreet, Shift, DiRT 1-2, Unreal Tournament 3, Test Drive Unlimited and Race Driver Grid. I'll need these for my YT videos, and he needed some space as he's moving now.
I also ordered Colin McRae Rally 3, Armored Core 2, WRC 1-2, and your recommendations: Formula Challenge and Supercar Street Challenge on Tuesday. Also got Rise of the Robots' big box edition for 12 quid.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I miss my 900+ hp Mitsubishi GTO from GT1. That thing was absurd.

And the 900+hp Supra. The Megaspeed Cup in GT1 was amazing.

What game has the most annonying announcer/commentator? The first and original Ridge Racer (on the PlayStation version at least) had the most annonying announcer IMO - making Legard, Allen, or "the muppets at ONE/Ten" (as Wizzie said) better commentators in comparsion.

FMecha wrote:

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I miss my 900+ hp Mitsubishi GTO from GT1. That thing was absurd.

And the 900+hp Supra. The Megaspeed Cup in GT1 was amazing.

What game has the most annonying announcer/commentator? The first and original Ridge Racer (on the PlayStation version at least) had the most annonying announcer IMO - making Legard, Allen, or "the muppets at ONE/Ten" (as Wizzie said) better commentators in comparsion.

I found the Andy Gray/Clive Whats-his-face combo highly irritating on Fifa, espeially given Grays tendency to criticise the human controlled team for absolutely anything

On a completely unrelated note, I am considering going on an F1 playstation game buying spree on eBay. I know I want F1 1997 and 1995, but which other F1 games are worth buying? (Bear in mind they have to work on PS1/PS2)

I have three ice hockey games for Playstation and Playstation 2: NHL Face Off '99, NHL 2K3, and NHL 07. And one of the things I've always rated in the is the quality of commentary. The first one had a fairly decent commentary, although back when I played it regularly I didn't yet understand spoken English so well. Nowadays when I fully understand what they are saying I have to admit that it gets repetitive fairly quickly. NHL 2K3 had better commentary, and even though I've already heard the same phrases thousand of times over, I still am not too bored with it.

But NHL 07 dips quite low in that aspect. First off, the Finnish commentary is done by perhaps the most famous hockey commentating duo in Finland, Mika Saukkonen and Timo Jutila (only second to the great Antero "Antsa" Mertaranta, who doesn't need a partner to keep thing interesting), yet the commentary has no flow whatsoever (perhaps caused by technical limitations) and many phrases are translated too literally from the English commentary instead of using proper Finnish terms (save for the occasional use of "ylämummo"). The English commentary isn't much better, as the main commentator sounds like a sexual offender and again there's quite little flow in the overall commentary.

takagi_for_the_win wrote:I found the Andy Gray/Clive Whats-his-face combo highly irritating on Fifa, espeially given Grays tendency to criticise the human controlled team for absolutely anything

THIS. THIS SO F***ING MUCH. For years now, whenever I've played Fifa I've switched the commentary from English to French. I used to like PES more than Fifa back when they had Peter Brackley as the lead commentator (so many good memories of PES5, it was lightyears ahead of the equivalent Fifa title at the time). But well, I guess I had been used to hearing his commentary for the previous decade beforehand

takagi_for_the_win wrote:On a completely unrelated note, I am considering going on an F1 playstation game buying spree on eBay. I know I want F1 1997 and 1995, but which other F1 games are worth buying? (Bear in mind they have to work on PS1/PS2)

F1 2000 from EA Sports on PS1
F1 05 and 06 on PS2

Got ForceFeedBack working on my DFGT for my PC racers. Now it's time for some fun with rFactor, Race 07 and GTR2.



Now how to find out how to make an offline series in Race or GTR....

Nuppiz wrote:...and many phrases are translated too literally from the English commentary instead of using proper Finnish terms (save for the occasional use of "ylämummo").

That's EA 's usual standard: they never bother to change their commentary texts significantly. This is maybe at worst in the German version of F1 Challenge where even the "great place for a race" pun (which can be translated reasonably well into a different German pun) was butchered by almost literal translation.

Klon wrote:

Nuppiz wrote:...and many phrases are translated too literally from the English commentary instead of using proper Finnish terms (save for the occasional use of "ylämummo").

That's EA 's usual standard: they never bother to change their commentary texts significantly. This is maybe at worst in the German version of F1 Challenge where even the "great place for a race" pun (which can be translated reasonably well into a different German pun) was butchered by almost literal translation.

That's what appeared with Japanese game manufacturers in the US during the 1990s. They call it Zero Winglish. I am Error, A winner is you, and all your base are belong to us are famous examples of it.

Onxy Wrecked wrote:

Klon wrote:

Nuppiz wrote:...and many phrases are translated too literally from the English commentary instead of using proper Finnish terms (save for the occasional use of "ylämummo").

That's EA 's usual standard: they never bother to change their commentary texts significantly. This is maybe at worst in the German version of F1 Challenge where even the "great place for a race" pun (which can be translated reasonably well into a different German pun) was butchered by almost literal translation.

That's what appeared with Japanese game manufacturers in the US during the 1990s. They call it Zero Winglish. I am Error, A winner is you, and all your base are belong to us are famous examples of it.

Acually, we call it "Engrish" over here.

DOSBoot wrote:

Onxy Wrecked wrote:That's what appeared with Japanese game manufacturers in the US during the 1990s. They call it Zero Winglish. I am Error, A winner is you, and all your base are belong to us are famous examples of it.

Acually, we call it "Engrish" over here.

Zero Winglish? Engrish?

We have what we used to call "Phoenglish" back in the early days of the forums.