Grand Prix Rejects

The one constant? Pryce winning. Hell yes. Though I'd like to know why Hunt was only 4th... ah well. He was still ahead of both Ferrari's.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:The one constant? Pryce winning. Hell yes. Though I'd like to know why Hunt was only 4th... ah well. He was still ahead of both Ferrari's.

The cars are simply closer together than last year, so a gap of just 10 seconds to Pryce meant only 4th.

Wow, it was very entertaining race for Emerson. It seems that our car has some potential and we are hoping to extract in the best possible way. Additionally, a podium finish is just a perfect start of the season, given that we were hoping just to finish in the points.

A further upgrade will be announced before next season.

Okay then, upgrade time. Martini would like to put 150K into top speed.

Well, let's make it so.
300k at topspeed
200k at reliablity

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Remember to add on the ground effect upgrade requested before Round 1 pi

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Remember to add on the ground effect upgrade requested before Round 1 pi

And don't forget mine!

Pi, what upgrades have Brabham already paid for?

Renault would like to spend 300K on top speed and 300K on handling/grip. Thanks.

pasta_maldonado wrote:Pi, what upgrades have Brabham already paid for?

Only the pre-season ones. But I have not forgotten your ground effect upgrade.

Sneva DNQing, which ain't good...1.2 Million on all four areas, please!

A superb drive by Clay in the beggining of the season. And with Bruno putting mileage to the car, we have a shot to fight against the big shots. I have to wonder about Reutemann having pass the chance to drive here instead of Giacomelli what could've done...

Ensign will go with 150K for Handling and another 150K Ground Effects

what is the maximum upgrade fee per race? 600k?

Boro would like to attempt to bankrupt itself by spending 300K on top speed and 300K on handling/grip.

We will make a race if it kills us.

We missed start by that much? (pasprashing Temple Run) 300K on top speed.

pycku wrote:what is the maximum upgrade fee per race? 600k?

No, I changed it to 2.4 mio per quarter, effectively it's the same, but it's a lot more flexible.

Ferrarist wrote:Sneva DNQing, which ain't good...1.2 Million on all four areas, please!

Sneva had gearbox trouble. And the spending limit is 2.4 million per season quarter.

How much would it cost for Surtees to run a second car in Brazil with Rolf Stommelen?

We would like to spend this:

300 k on top speed
150 k on handling
150 k on reliability

Total of: 600 000.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:How much would it cost for Surtees to run a second car in Brazil with Rolf Stommelen?

25 000 + salary

pi314159 wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:How much would it cost for Surtees to run a second car in Brazil with Rolf Stommelen?

25 000 + salary

That'll put us into negative money! Forget it, then.

Rather then throwing money at a problem, is there any way to find out how slow or evil handling the car is?

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:

pi314159 wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:How much would it cost for Surtees to run a second car in Brazil with Rolf Stommelen?

25 000 + salary

That'll put us into negative money! Forget it, then.

You can save money by changing to BRM engines!

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:

pi314159 wrote:

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:How much would it cost for Surtees to run a second car in Brazil with Rolf Stommelen?

25 000 + salary

That'll put us into negative money! Forget it, then.

For a one-off, the salary would be lower than for a full season, so you could propose a salary to Stommelen which doesn't put you into negative money.

EDIT: Deadline changes to Wednesday, 21:00 CET.

pi314159 wrote:Sneva had gearbox trouble. And the spending limit is 2.4 million per season quarter.

Then spend everything I haven't spent yet. Provided that I didn't already spend 2.4 million

Damn, spend 400,000 on handling and 500,000 on top speed.

Ligier will put 450k into handling, 300k into top speed and 150k into Ground Effects.

Any news from this championship?

Ferrari Ground effect upgrade:

up to 300k: fail
300-600k: fail
600-900k: success
900k-1.2M: success
1.2M-1.5M: success
1.5M-1.6M: fail

McLaren Ground effect upgrade
up to 300k: fail
300k-600k: success
600k-900k: success
900k-1.2M: success
1.2M-1.5M: success
1.5M-1.6M: fail

Lotus Ground effect upgrade
up to 300k: success
300k-600k: success
600k-900k: success
900k-1.2M: success
1.2M-1.5M: success
1.5M-1.6M: success

Oh yes, Lotus are lucky.

Ensign ground effect upgrade:
150k: success

Penske ground effect upgrade:
up to 300k success
300-600k fail

Ligier Ground Effect upgrade:
150k success

McLaren are the best at ground effects!

1978 Brazilian Grand Prix - pre-qualifying:

1. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +0:0.000
2. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +0.114
3. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +0.386
4. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +0.452
5. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +1.730
6. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +1.888
DNPQ:
7. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +2.201
8. Ricardo Zunino (Boro 002) +2.548
9. Brett Lunger (Theodore TR01) +3.141
10. Rupert Keegan (Theodore TR01) +3.483
11. Arturo Merzario (Merzario A1) +3.630
12. Harald Ertl (Apollon Fly 2) +0:4.005
13. Patrick Studer (Merzario A1) +4.949

The obvious four make it into main qualifying, Pescarolo in the Martini and Mass in the ATS as well. Heyer DNQP's, which probably won't stop him. The Boro team has improved and Zunino was clearly ahead of the Theodores, Merzario, Harald Ertl in the Apollon and Merzario's teammate Patrick Studer, who was last once again.

pi314159 wrote:1978 Brazilian Grand Prix - pre-qualifying:

1. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +0:0.000
2. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +0.114
3. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +0.386
4. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +0.452
5. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +1.730
6. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +1.888
DNPQ:
7. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +2.201
8. Ricardo Zunino (Boro 002) +2.548
9. Brett Lunger (Theodore TR01) +3.141
10. Rupert Keegan (Theodore TR01) +3.483
11. Arturo Merzario (Merzario A1) +3.630
12. Harald Ertl (Apollon Fly 2) +0:4.005
13. Patrick Studer (Merzario A1) +4.949

The obvious four make it into main qualifying, Pescarolo in the Martini and Mass in the ATS as well. Heyer DNQP's, which probably won't stop him. The Boro team has improved and Zunino was clearly ahead of the Theodores, Merzario, Harald Ertl in the Apollon and Merzario's teammate Patrick Studer, who was last once again.

Please. Please, make that happen.

pasta_maldonado wrote:

pi314159 wrote:1978 Brazilian Grand Prix - pre-qualifying:

1. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +0:0.000
2. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +0.114
3. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +0.386
4. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +0.452
5. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +1.730
6. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +1.888
DNPQ:
7. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +2.201
8. Ricardo Zunino (Boro 002) +2.548
9. Brett Lunger (Theodore TR01) +3.141
10. Rupert Keegan (Theodore TR01) +3.483
11. Arturo Merzario (Merzario A1) +3.630
12. Harald Ertl (Apollon Fly 2) +0:4.005
13. Patrick Studer (Merzario A1) +4.949

The obvious four make it into main qualifying, Pescarolo in the Martini and Mass in the ATS as well. Heyer DNQP's, which probably won't stop him. The Boro team has improved and Zunino was clearly ahead of the Theodores, Merzario, Harald Ertl in the Apollon and Merzario's teammate Patrick Studer, who was last once again.

Please. Please, make that happen.

Seconded.

Brabham - 1.5 Mio Ground Effect upgrade:
0-300k success
300k-600k fail
600k-900k success
900k-1.2M success
1.2M-1.5M success

1978 Brazilian GP - Qualifying
1. Niki Lauda (Lotus 79) 1:41.017
2. James Hunt (McLaren M26B) +0.278
3. Rick Mears (Lotus 79) +0.711
4. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T3) +0.752
5. Tom Pryce (McLaren M26B) +1.018
6. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T3) +1.369
7. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT46) +1.615
8. Tom Sneva (Penske PC6) +1.898
9. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT46) +1.938
10. Gijs van Lennep (Ligier JS9) +1.995
11. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell 008) +2.228
12. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +2.322
13. Patrick Tambay (Penske PC6) +2.446
14. Ronnie Peterson (Shadow DN9) +2.578
15. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +2.630
16. Elio de Angelis (Ligier JS9) +2.646
17. Clay Regazzoni (Ensign N177B) +2.648
18. Bruno Giacomelli (Ensign N177B) +2.721
19. Mario Andretti (March 781) +2.793
20. David Purley (Wolf WR5) +2.886
21. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 008) +2.901
22. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault RS01B) +2.922
23. Didier Pironi (Shadow DN9) +2.935
24. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20) +2.981
25. Alan Jones (March 781) +2.990
26. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +3.132
27. Rene Arnoux (Renault RS01B) +3.138
28. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +3.263
29. Jacky Ickx (Wolf WR5) +3.515
30. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +3.643
31. Geoff Brabham (Fittipaldi F5A) +4.225
32. Brian Henton (Kojima KE009B) +4.376
33. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +4.445
34. Masahiro Hasemi (Kojima KE009B) +4.589

Well it looks like Kojima is becoming crap. So i need money. In that case we have to re-negotiate Hasemi's contract, which means he will only race in Japan from now on. The same thing happening every year, but we will surive!

it seems we are falling behind those ground effect cars. We have no other option but improve significantly so that we are competitive.

Yeah, when can Ferrari apply for a 1.6M ground effects upgrade again?! Stupid lottery means we've gone backwards instead of forwards...

Renault will go for a £300k ground effects update and a £300k speed update.

If our performance is unsatisfactory over the next few races, we may take a look at possible pay-drivers to offset the cost of upgrades.

Stramala wrote:Yeah, when can Ferrari apply for a 1.6M ground effects upgrade again?! Stupid lottery means we've gone backwards instead of forwards...

You have 800.000 left to spend for this quarter of the season.