Grand Prix Rejects

f1andrea wrote:At 6 days to go we have reached the 27%, £644,540 of 2,350,000. A big increase this evening (100,000 in less than one hour), I start to belive it

Even if they do make it to Abu Dhabi, I sincerely doubt we'll see Caterham on the grid come Albert Park next March though.

Frogfoot9013 wrote:

f1andrea wrote:At 6 days to go we have reached the 27%, £644,540 of 2,350,000. A big increase this evening (100,000 in less than one hour), I start to belive it

Even if they do make it to Abu Dhabi, I sincerely doubt we'll see Caterham on the grid come Albert Park next March though.

I doubt it too, but if Caterham go to Abu Dhabi then he can increase his chanches for saving the team...a difficult situation, but during the winter all can happen

Captain Hammer wrote:Well that explains a lot. Who the hell wants to drive a car after a chronically-flatulent driver has been in it? Spluttering around in the rear indeed.

Plenty of drivers who just want to make it to NASCAR's top level?

At 5 days and 3 hours to go we have reached the 45%, but during the GP only 10.000 £ were donated. This morning someone has donated 100.000, the total now is £1,080,704. I hope only that now the donations doesn't stop

f1andrea wrote:At 5 days and 3 hours to go we have reached the 45%, but during the GP only 10.000 £ were donated. This morning someone has donated 100.000, the total now is £1,080,704. I hope only that now the donations doesn't stop

I'm disappointed that the American coverage made no mention of this effort. Did the SKY coverage mention it at all over the weekend?

F1000X wrote:

f1andrea wrote:At 5 days and 3 hours to go we have reached the 45%, but during the GP only 10.000 £ were donated. This morning someone has donated 100.000, the total now is £1,080,704. I hope only that now the donations doesn't stop

I'm disappointed that the American coverage made no mention of this effort. Did the SKY coverage mention it at all over the weekend?

It seems to have come up in an interview Kravitz had with Christian Horner, yielding a rather angry response from Horner who responded with the following comment:

“The fans pay to be entertained by the teams, they shouldn’t be having to pay for a team. The concept of that is wrong and shouldn’t be allowed.”

http://www1.skysports.com/f1/news/12433 ... ham-return

Given the nature of his response, Horner seems to be taking the attitude that Caterham are exploiting the good will of their fans as they seek a bailout.

mario wrote:Given the nature of his response, Horner seems to be taking the attitude that Caterham are exploiting the good will of their fans as they seek a bailout.

I agree with him on that. It's one of the two reasons I'm not donating to it, the other being that I'm too young.

My biggest problem with it is that it just screams desperation and just smacks of all the wrong things. Granted they shouldn't have been allowed to be in this position in the first place. On one hand, it's a pretty undignified way to go about things, but it was the way the sport was managed that caused (probably a strong word to use, but they certainly didn't help) them to get into the mess that they're in. Another issue is their long term prospects; Kamui's F1 ride was crowdfunded and you don't need me to tell you how much of a disaster that was.

Frogfoot9013 wrote:

mario wrote:Given the nature of his response, Horner seems to be taking the attitude that Caterham are exploiting the good will of their fans as they seek a bailout.

I agree with him on that. It's one of the two reasons I'm not donating to it, the other being that I'm too young.

On that note, maybe I shouldn't buy Red Bull if I want to show support for the team.

Oh wait, I don't support the team, and I find their product vile. Oh well. But if I liked Martini, I would be buying it to support Williams this year... Only difference between this and Caterham's approach is that I get a product in return and only some of my money goes to support the team. But if I wanted ALL my money to support my favoured team? Why not?

Mexicola wrote:My biggest problem with it is that it just screams desperation and just smacks of all the wrong things. Granted they shouldn't have been allowed to be in this position in the first place. On one hand, it's a pretty undignified way to go about things, but it was the way the sport was managed that caused (probably a strong word to use, but they certainly didn't help) them to get into the mess that they're in. Another issue is their long term prospects; Kamui's F1 ride was crowdfunded and you don't need me to tell you how much of a disaster that was.

Kamui drops out of Caterham pretty fast.

James Allen wrote: If one was being cynical one would suggest that today’s statement, which goes on to explain all about Crowdcube and features a quote from that company’s CEO, is an exercise in using the massive glare of publicity surrounding F1 to gain awareness for Crowdcube, whose accountancy firm is none other than Smith & Williamson, for whom O’Connell works. O’Connell, meanwhile, is certainly using the Caterham crisis to gain awareness for himself and his firm.

I'm cynical, I believe it to be one of my strong points, so I agree with James Allen. This stinks.

Cynicism is not a virtue, and certainly not something to be proud of.

Captain Hammer wrote:Cynicism is not a virtue, and certainly not something to be proud of.

Hmm, I wonder what's behind your comment?

eagleash wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula-one/30020798?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

She will probably score as many points as Jarno Trulli, Heikki Kovalainen, Kamui Kobayashi, Vitaly Petrov, Karun Chandhok, Charles Pic, Giedo van der Garde, Marcus Ericsson, and André Lotterer managed for Lotus/Caterham put together.

But Caterham won't make it to Abu Dhabi.

I need to read this on Autosport or Motorsport in order to truly believe Alice Powell possibly being in the car for Abu Dhabi.

Update: Racing or First Practice? I'm a bit confused. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29986655

golic_2004 wrote:I need to read this on Autosport or Motorsport in order to truly believe Alice Powell possibly being in the car for Abu Dhabi.

Update: Racing or First Practice? I'm a bit confused. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29986655

At first, I was confused and was asking myself how on earth she would qualify for a Superlicence, so I guess from reading her quotations that it is FP1 only.

And of course, I am now desperately hoping that this is going to happen!

dr-baker wrote:

golic_2004 wrote:I need to read this on Autosport or Motorsport in order to truly believe Alice Powell possibly being in the car for Abu Dhabi.

Update: Racing or First Practice? I'm a bit confused. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29986655

At first, I was confused and was asking myself how on earth she would qualify for a Superlicence, so I guess from reading her quotations that it is FP1 only.

And of course, I am now desperately hoping that this is going to happen!

Yes me too, but it really doesn't seem likely.

£35,000 for a FP1 outing? This chap obviously doesn't know that this is F1?

Zetec wrote:£35,000 for a FP1 outing? This chap obviously doesn't know that this is F1?

the same things I've thought. At 2 days and 6 hours to go, we have reached the 52%, too little..we need a miracle, I hope in a last minute solution.

Plus, Ericsson will not be available for racing in Abu Dhabi as he cut his agreements with the team:

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3189 ... m-f1-team/

f1andrea wrote:

Zetec wrote:£35,000 for a FP1 outing? This chap obviously doesn't know that this is F1?

the same things I've thought. At 2 days and 6 hours to go, we have reached the 52%, too little..we need a miracle, I hope in a last minute solution.

Plus, Ericsson will not be available for racing in Abu Dhabi as he cut his agreements with the team:

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3189 ... m-f1-team/

Barrichello may still get a chance to race for Caterham if the crowdfunding succeeds.

This is turning into an absolute shambles now. As if it wasn't already!

Ericsson's made the right choice jumping ship, to be associated with this mess now is only going to end badly. It is complete fantasy to think that the team will get to Abu Dhabi, so when drivers such as Alice Powell attempt to throw their hat into the ring, it does only one thing - it damages her image and integrity.

We all knew the show was over weeks ago, I just cannot understand why people can't seem to accept this.

AndreaModa wrote:This is turning into an absolute shambles now. As if it wasn't already!

Ericsson's made the right choice jumping ship, to be associated with this mess now is only going to end badly. It is complete fantasy to think that the team will get to Abu Dhabi, so when drivers such as Alice Powell attempt to throw their hat into the ring, it does only one thing - it damages her image and integrity.

We all knew the show was over weeks ago, I just cannot understand why people can't seem to accept this.

Yep, everyone should know by now that any team Kolles touches goes to sleep and doesn't wake up again.

Here's a killer rule change for F1 that can introduce balance.

Any team that wins the WCC must hire Kolles immediatly and keep him for the duration of their championship year(s). I think we'd bow down to any team that could win two in a row with that rule in effect. :D

Sign below to make it happen:

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3.

To be honest, if it's a double points race, and the grid is lacking slightly on drivers, I could see Alice Powell getting a superlicence to race just for publicity, seeing as she'd be the first female driver to attempt to qualify since 1992, and the first to actually race since 1976.

Then again, I'd love to see a Barrichello/Lotterer dream team

Frogfoot9013 wrote:

f1andrea wrote:

Zetec wrote:£35,000 for a FP1 outing? This chap obviously doesn't know that this is F1?

the same things I've thought. At 2 days and 6 hours to go, we have reached the 52%, too little..we need a miracle, I hope in a last minute solution.

Plus, Ericsson will not be available for racing in Abu Dhabi as he cut his agreements with the team:

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/3189 ... m-f1-team/

Barrichello may still get a chance to race for Caterham if the crowdfunding succeeds.

Despite not able to race in his home race, I think Barrichello will accept the opportunity to make a proper farewell.

Sublime_FA11C wrote:Any team that wins the WCC must hire Kolles immediatly and keep him for the duration of their championship year(s). I think we'd bow down to any team that could win two in a row with that rule in effect.

Except Kolles is a miracle worker by keeping teams alive that by all intents should be dead. Odds are, giving him a top team would enable said top team to cut costs significantly and still keep winning, enabling to give more money to smaller teams and...

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4.

Klon wrote:

Sublime_FA11C wrote:Any team that wins the WCC must hire Kolles immediatly and keep him for the duration of their championship year(s). I think we'd bow down to any team that could win two in a row with that rule in effect.

Except Kolles is a miracle worker by keeping teams alive that by all intents should be dead. Odds are, giving him a top team would enable said top team to cut costs significantly and still keep winning, enabling to give more money to smaller teams and...

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4.

I'm more than willing to make this happen.

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4. Simtek
5.

Seems that 5 drivers are on the Caterham list: the favourite is Joylon Palmer, GP2 2014 winner. 54% reached at 1 day 5 hours to go, still a long way to reach the goal. Very difficult...c'mon guys, donate, we can make history!

f1andrea wrote:Seems that 5 drivers are on the Caterham list: the favourite is Joylon Palmer, GP2 2014 winner. 54% reached at 1 day 5 hours to go, still a long way to reach the goal. Very difficult...c'mon guys, donate, we can make history!

Setting £1 million on fire is a better investment than giving it to 1MRT. At least then you get to bask in the warm glow of a bonfire, rather than watching the money vanish in an instant.

Simtek wrote:

Klon wrote:

Sublime_FA11C wrote:Any team that wins the WCC must hire Kolles immediatly and keep him for the duration of their championship year(s). I think we'd bow down to any team that could win two in a row with that rule in effect.

Except Kolles is a miracle worker by keeping teams alive that by all intents should be dead. Odds are, giving him a top team would enable said top team to cut costs significantly and still keep winning, enabling to give more money to smaller teams and...

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4.

I'm more than willing to make this happen.

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4. Simtek
5.

This would be awesome

1. Sublime
2. Kolles
3. Klon
4. Simtek
5. roblomas52
6.

they have added a lot of used under race suit and in less than 30 minutes all sold out and 57% reached, +3%. They're adding a lot of memorabilia, if you're interested keep an eye on the page https://www.crowdcube.com/caterham/

dr-baker wrote:

golic_2004 wrote:I need to read this on Autosport or Motorsport in order to truly believe Alice Powell possibly being in the car for Abu Dhabi.

Update: Racing or First Practice? I'm a bit confused. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/formula1/29986655

At first, I was confused and was asking myself how on earth she would qualify for a Superlicence, so I guess from reading her quotations that it is FP1 only.

And of course, I am now desperately hoping that this is going to happen!

Whenever POW shows up on the time charts, everyone on track instantly spins and crashes!

Caterham's administrators have said the team may still go to Abu Dhabi even if, as expected, they fall short of the £2.35m crowdfunding target tomorrow.

This cannot possibly end well.

I'd say they'd probably be thrown out of the paddock like Andrea Moda were!

East Londoner wrote:Caterham's administrators have said the team may still go to Abu Dhabi even if, as expected, they fall short of the £2.35m crowdfunding target tomorrow.

This cannot possibly end well.

On the plus side they seem to be as determined as Zoran Stefanovic.

If they were to turn up regardless of whether or not they get the crowdfunding money, wouldn't that make all the crowdfunding kinda pointless?

Simtek wrote:

East Londoner wrote:Caterham's administrators have said the team may still go to Abu Dhabi even if, as expected, they fall short of the £2.35m crowdfunding target tomorrow.

This cannot possibly end well.

On the plus side they seem to be as determined as Zoran Stefanovic.

I am Team Zoran Stefanovic Buys Caterham And Shows Up To Abu Dhabi. #TZSBCASUTAB!

Frogfoot9013 wrote:If they were to turn up regardless of whether or not they get the crowdfunding money, wouldn't that make all the crowdfunding kinda pointless?

Not really. $2,300,000 are probably the ideal solution, i.e. enough to appear and take care of everything properly. If you get less than that you can make things work with minor sponsorship and cutting corners wherever humanly possible.

Klon wrote:

Frogfoot9013 wrote:If they were to turn up regardless of whether or not they get the crowdfunding money, wouldn't that make all the crowdfunding kinda pointless?

Not really. $2,300,000 are probably the ideal solution, i.e. enough to appear and take care of everything properly. If you get less than that you can make things work with minor sponsorship and cutting corners wherever humanly possible.

I wouldn't mind if they cut some corners. I always thought the Caterham car a bit on the boxy side...




I'll grab my coat.