F1 Alternativ: season 1990

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 08 Aug 2013, 11:29

McLaren will test the sequential gearbox at Silverstone.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 08 Aug 2013, 13:05

Second and fourth?

Big Flav approves!

And can we test a sequential gearbox at Mondello Park?

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 08 Aug 2013, 15:52

Osella wants to test at Mugello (is it allowed), and if not, Imola, their three drivers to test the steering system

Post by **Ataxia** » 08 Aug 2013, 19:55

Well, seeing as I want the floor to have the maximum chance of working I'd need to draft in someone else to do the test session, hence why I'd like to take Montermini to do the test and the race. If I can't get 50k out of him to do them, then I'll just do the test with Caffi and Collard and borrow Wendlinger for the race.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 09 Aug 2013, 14:01

Testing Sessions
I decided to not post the times for the testing sessions.(It is very much work with little use)
I also decided that track sharing isn't possible. So every team has to pay 500k for testing.
Sorry for that.

Andrea Montermini have to pring 50k for one race.
1-70...Yes
71-100...no
76 he isnt able to bring the money. In this case Wendlinger will race for AGS at Imola.

Tyrell

Active suspension system didn't work
Front Wing not succesful
Rear Wing succesful
Floor not succesful

Ferrari

Cooling System succesful
Gearbox not succesful

Dallara

RW not succesful
Adjustable Front Wing

AGS

Floor succesful

Larrousse

Airbox not succesful
Floor not succesful
Electrical System succesful

Arrows

Active suspension system didn't work

Active suspension system worked

Williams

Power Steering system didn't work

Power Steering system didn't work

Ligier

Suspension succesful

Mclaren

Sequential Gearbox system didn't work

Benneton

Sequential Gearbox system didn't work

Osella

Steering System succesful

Post by **Ataxia** » 09 Aug 2013, 14:07

Hermann95 wrote:Testing Sessions

Andrea Montermini have to pring 50k for one race.
1-70...Yes
71-100...no
76 he isnt able to bring the money. In this case Wendlinger will race for AGS at Imola.

AGS

Floor succesful

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 09 Aug 2013, 15:53

Hermann95 wrote:Testing Sessions

Tyrell

Active suspension system didn't work
Front Wing not succesful
Rear Wing succesful
Floor not succesful

At least something worked hopefully we cant get some points on board at the next Grand Prix.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 09 Aug 2013, 16:43

Hermann95 wrote:Williams

Power Steering system didn't work

Power Steering system didn't work

What.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 10 Aug 2013, 06:14

At least one worked out of three.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 10 Aug 2013, 08:00

Woo-hoo we have a working active suspension! With that addition, we all hope to be fighting for points next race!

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 10 Aug 2013, 08:26

Out of nowhere, van Rossem demanded a working active suspension and power steering (not necesarily both, though) or he will quit. As a result, we would like to test those, at any course.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 14:31

First of all sorry for the delay. I planned to do the Imola race on friday but my real life said no!
I will do the Imola race today, Monaco will follow maybe also today(only if no drivers get injured etc) or wednesday.

FMecha wrote:Out of nowhere, van Rossem demanded a working active suspension and power steering (not necesarily both, though) or he will quit. As a result, we would like to test those, at any course.

You have the opportunity to test after the race at monaco. Pleas state it after the race and say if you wanna test only one or both. Thanks.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 15:48

Round 3: Imola

Pre-Qualifying
1 Karl Wendlinger (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:30.439
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:30.553
3 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:30.745
4 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:31.002
5 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:31.475 DNPQ
6 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:31.679 DNPQ
7 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:32.055 DNPQ
8 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:32.316 DNPQ
9 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:32.590 DNPQ

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 15:57

Round 3: Imola

Qualifying
1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:28.575
2 Yannick Dalmas (Ferrari) 1:28.627
3 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:28.702
4 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:28.733
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:28.870
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:29.096
7 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:29.291
8 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:29.441
9 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:29.485
10 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:29.516
11 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:29.517
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:29.662
13 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:29.902
14 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:30.343
15 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:30.363
16 Karl Wendlinger (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:30.380
17 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:30.494
18 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) 1:30.544
19 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:30.556
20 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:30.598
21 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:30.598
22 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:30.674
23 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:30.720
24 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:30.736
25 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:30.804
26 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:30.936
27 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:31.011 DNQ
28 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:31.031 DNQ
29 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:31.092 DNQ
30 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:31.995 DNQ

Post by **Ataxia** » 11 Aug 2013, 16:19

Holy-moly! Wendlinger 16th!

I think this fella's something special...

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Aug 2013, 16:35

Ataxia wrote:Holy-moly! Wendlinger 16th!

I think this fella's something special...

Indeed. And look how Zanardi seems to prove himself too as a rookie. :shock:

Watch how these two will get big offers next season.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 11 Aug 2013, 16:42

Shizuka wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Holy-moly! Wendlinger 16th!

I think this fella's something special...

Indeed. And look how Zanardi seems to prove himself too as a rookie.
Watch how these two will get big offers next season.

Wendlinger is the Williams test driver, let's not forget...

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 16:49

Round 3: Imola

Race
The start was very exciting. Alain Prost leads the field into Tamburello. Behind him the later disqualifyed Dalmas and Jean Alesi, who had a very good start. After 2 rounds the field looked a bit different. Alesi was into the lead over Prost and Senna. Dalmas 4th and Piquet 5th. Mika Häkkinen was already on 6th position and behind him Boutsen and Modena. In lap 3 Ivan Capelli who was on 15th position tried to overtake Wendlinger in the Tamburello. On the exit Capelli went into the grass which was leading into a massive spin and a hit into the barriers. Luckily he wasn't injured. Jean Alesi, who was still leading, was flying. He lapped between 0.4 and 1.2 seconds faster than Alain Prost, in the same car. But on lap 14 his engine gave up and the frenchman had to retire. On lap 25 Giovanardi lost his car at varianta alta and chrashed into the barrier. Prost controlled the race. Boutsen, who overtook Häkkinen and Piquet and was in 4th position had major gearbox problems causing him to give up. After the pitstops Prost was still in the lead followed by Senna and Nannini(both without pitstops). Piquet blow up his engine in lap 36 causing Berger to be 6th. Ayrton Senna had problems with his gearbox since lap 32. He only was in 6th position when he gave up. Modena was in 4th position when he spun at aqua minerale. He felt back and was now behind Allex Zanardi in his Larrouse who drove a superb race. Also a superb race drove Nigel Mansell who came from 19th all the way up to 9th.

1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:38:33.565
2 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:39:19.552
3 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:39:25.471
4 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:39:26.422
5 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:39:35.153
6 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:39:35.639
7 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) -1 lap
8 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
9 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
10 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
11 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -1 lap
12 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) -1 lap
13 Karl Wendlinger (AGS-Lamborghini) -1 lap
14 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -1 lap
15 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) -2 lap
16 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) -2 laps
— Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 56/Engine
Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) DNF lap 48/Gearbox
Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) DNF lap 41/Brakes
Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) DNF lap 36/Engine
Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) DNF lap 25/Gearbox
Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) DNF lap 25/Accident
Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) DNF lap 14/Engine
Rene Arnoux(Footwork Arrows-Ford) DNF lap 9/Suspension
Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 3/Accident
Yannick Dalmas (Ferrari) DSQ/Underweighted car

Fastest Lap: Gerhard Berger(Lotus-Judd)

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 11 Aug 2013, 17:05

Big Flav wrote:Drive from Nanninni, good. Senna brake will talk later

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 17:11

Drivers Championship
1.Ayrton Senna 15
2.Stefano Modena 10
3.Alain Prost 9
4.Alessandro Nannini 9
5.Nelson Piquet 7
6.Thierry Boutsen 6
7.Jean Alesi 4
8.Mika Häkkinen 4
9.Satoru Nakajima 3
10.Gerhard Berger 3
11.Nigel Mansell 2
12.Alessandro Zanardi 2
13.Michele Alboreto 1

Constructors Championship
1.Benneton 24
2.Williams 16
3.Mclaren 13
4.Ferrari 10
5.Footwork Arrows 4
6.Lotus 3
7.Brabham 2
8.Larrousse 2
9.Minardi 1

Prize Money
Mclaren 900k
Benneton 600k
Footwork Arrows 400k
Lotus 300k
Larrousse 200k
Williams 100k

Pole Position Challange
Nelson Piquet 1
Jean Alesi 1
Alain Prost 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Gerhard Berger 1

Post by **Ataxia** » 11 Aug 2013, 17:22

AGS would like to organise another test at Paul Ricard if possibly, this time taking a slight risk and investing in an Adjustable Rear Wing. As we should have Gachot back, he and Caffi will be working on this. Collard will be working on the gearbox.

This should cost us $1.5m, so my reckoning we still have $2.25m for the rest of the year...

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 11 Aug 2013, 17:58

Salamander wrote:Wendlinger is the Williams test driver, let's not forget...

That's still a big offer, isn't it?

Also congrats to Alessandro bringing home a very valuable 5th place!

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 11 Aug 2013, 18:14

Benetton would like to test at Silverstone with all 3 drivers working on the sequential gearbox

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 11 Aug 2013, 18:30

Although Rene had problems with the active suspension, it seems that this upgrade was the so needed. Mika did wonderful job and get the podium. However, 10th at qualifing is not what we expected with our active suspension. We must aim for top 6 starting position, so that we have more chances in racing.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 11 Aug 2013, 18:37

Testing is available AFTER the Monaco GP!
I hope it will be on wednesday

Post by **Ataxia** » 11 Aug 2013, 18:44

Hermann95 wrote:Testing is available AFTER the Monaco GP!
I hope it will be on wednesday

Oh, pardon my eagerness! I must have missed that...

I'll re-submit that testing plan after Monaco in that case.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 11 Aug 2013, 20:25

Tyrrel are disappionted with the way our season is going we dont seem to have race pace we need to start scoring soon

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 12 Aug 2013, 16:28

Still wondering why Tarquini, being a noted talented driver, is having problems in qualy. Larini making the most of the car right now.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 15 Aug 2013, 16:12

Hey,
had some problems to sort out yesterday so i couln't do the race.
I will do it this night.
Teams can now state there testing plans which will be held after the Monaco GP.
Please submit your testing plans until 17. August 14:00 EEST

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 15 Aug 2013, 16:41

Hermann95 wrote:Hey,
had some problems to sort out yesterday so i couln't do the race.
I will do it this night.
Teams can now state there testing plans which will be held after the Monaco GP.
Please submit your testing plans until 17. August 14:00 EEST

Since i'll be going away to Berwick tomorrow I'll have to do this pretty quickly. Can you tell me which tracks are available?

I'll test at Monza with Piquet testing the Gearbox and Nakajima will test the Suspension. Dalmas will test the cooling system

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 15 Aug 2013, 17:18

Are engine updates allowed?

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 15 Aug 2013, 17:29

Since Dallara already spend all of it's cash, we ask for a top team to allow us to test with them. If accepted, we'll go like this.
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Adjustable Front Wing

Post by **Ataxia** » 15 Aug 2013, 17:30

Ataxia wrote:AGS would like to organise another test at Paul Ricard if possibly, this time taking a slight risk and investing in an Adjustable Rear Wing. As we should have Gachot back, he and Caffi will be working on this. Collard will be working on the gearbox.

This should cost us $1.5m, so my reckoning we still have $2.25m for the rest of the year...

Nothing's changed for the test, I'll just reiterate it to make double sure.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Aug 2013, 17:46

Williams will try again to develop our power steering with all 3 cars, this time, however, the test is taking place at Brands Hatch. Should another team attempt to join us, we would be more than happy to give them directions to the many other racetracks around the UK.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 15 Aug 2013, 17:47

pycku wrote:Are engine updates allowed?

Nope. If an engine supplier will bring a new update i will post this.
Engine tests are just special tests for excample if anew supplier will come to f1 it's possible that they invite some teams to test the engines.

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 15 Aug 2013, 18:01

Since I won't be back until the 26th could you e-mail me the results of the races you do please?

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 15 Aug 2013, 18:39

Minardi will test at Mugello

Alboreto - Active Suspension
Giovanardi - Front Wing
Giacomelli - Rear Wing

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 15 Aug 2013, 18:52

If so, we will test at Silverstone with all three drivers working on front wing.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 15 Aug 2013, 19:45

Tyrrell will test our active suspension system at donington park with all 3 drivers

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 15 Aug 2013, 19:50

Lotus will test at Oulton Park, with all 3 drivers focusing on improving the front wing