Grand Prix Rejects

And here's my own question:

Who is the only F1 driver ever to win a race in Monaco after starting from last place?

I'm guessing this wasn't in an F1 race, so as a total stab in the dark, because it seems like something he'd do: Kimi Raikkonen.

AustralianStig wrote:I'm guessing this wasn't in an F1 race, so as a total stab in the dark, because it seems like something he'd do: Kimi Raikkonen.

You did spot that it wasn't an F1 race, but Kimi Räikkönen is not the correct answer.

Taking my own wild guess - I'm guessing also a non-F1 race and long enough ago that passing wasn't as difficult. Stirling Moss in a 500cc/F3 support race?

Graham Hill was brilliant around Monaco, so I guess it's him.

MorbidelliObese wrote:Taking my own wild guess - I'm guessing also a non-F1 race and long enough ago that passing wasn't as difficult. Stirling Moss in a 500cc/F3 support race?

pi314159 wrote:Graham Hill was brilliant around Monaco, so I guess it's him.

It's neither of them, but they're getting warmer in terms of the time period.

Jackie Stewart?

I'll take a really wild guess and say Louis Chiron.

Bruce McLaren?

None of these are correct.

I say Peter Arundell.

Or maybe the answer is actually nobody

AxelP800 wrote:I say Peter Arundell.

Or maybe the answer is actually nobody

No, it has been done before, but no by Peter Arundell.

I will add that the driver in question was not an F1 reject.

tommykl wrote:And here's my own question:
Who is the only F1 driver ever to win a race in Monaco after starting from last place?

You are a devious man, Thomas. At no point did you ever specify that the driver had to have started last in the same Monaco Grand Prix (or "race in Monaco") that he won.

And as my first train of thought bore no fruit (which was sole Formula E winner Sébastien Buemi), I'm going to say Luigi Fagioli, who did drive in the F1 World Championship in 1950-51, won the pre-F1 Monaco Grand Prix in 1935, and was stone dead last on the Monaco grid in 1932.

dinizintheoven wrote:

tommykl wrote:And here's my own question:
Who is the only F1 driver ever to win a race in Monaco after starting from last place?

You are a devious man, Thomas. At no point did you ever specify that the driver had to have started last in the same Monaco Grand Prix (or "race in Monaco") that he won.

And as my first train of thought bore no fruit (which was sole Formula E winner Sébastien Buemi), I'm going to say Luigi Fagioli, who did drive in the F1 World Championship in 1950-51, won the pre-F1 Monaco Grand Prix in 1935, and was stone dead last on the Monaco grid in 1932.

Now see, you've spotted a loophole in my question...unfortunately for you, I do mean that the man started last in the same race that he won.

But seeing as that answer is technically true with regards to my question, I'd be fine with giving you the point if no one finds the answer I'm looking for

Ronnie Peterson?

Richard Attwood

Another guess but a sort-of educated one

I remember from the Token profile on the old site that Tom Pryce was refused an entry into the '74 Monaco race with them so went on to compete in the F3 race instead, and also know that he went on to win that which brought him to the attention of Shadow. What I don't know is his starting position, but maybe his last minute entry was sufficiently last minute that he didn't have time to qualify (or at least get acclimatised to qualify well) so had to start from the back? (that's the guess part)

I still haven't seen the correct answer, but some good guesses...

Another complete and utter guess But Henri Pescarolo

Sir Jack Brabham?

I'm going to guess at Jim Clark.

Max Chilton?

And still no one has found it!

Denny Hulme?

Super duper most massive darkest shot of the decade: Vic Elford. Since he wins a Rally Monte Carlo, I assume he took off last

Let's just keep saying names...

Fangio
Etancelin
Trintignant

Ryo Haryanto

Howden Ganley?

I'm going to go for a stupid answer: Renzo Zorzi.

I'm going to go for an even stupider one - Jenson Button in a Monaco-based amateur triathlon after giving the rest a small head-start. (Well the question didn't specify a motor race )

Jean Pierre Beltoise?

Maurice Trintignant?

Robert Manzon

Normal32 wrote:Robert Manzon

And that is the correct answer!

This happened not in an F1 race, not in an open wheel race, but in a sportscar race. The 1952 Monaco Grand Prix was a sportscar race, and Manzon competed in it, and also in the supporting race for cars under 2 litres. It was in this race that Manzon, after starting in last place, took the victory.

Normal32, I believe it's your turn

Alright then:


Only two drivers have more F1 wins than Alain Prost. One of them is obviously Michael Schumacher. Who is the other?

Guido Cappellini?

This came up on the chatroom a bit earlier, I believe. It's John Love, isn't it?

tommykl wrote:This came up on the chatroom a bit earlier, I believe. It's John Love, isn't it?

Correct. Take it away!

Moving on.

Michael Schumacher has achieved something twice that fourteen other world champions have only achieved once, most recent of whom was Vettel in 2012. What achievement is this?

Winning the championship without having the most wins?