Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **27 Dec 2016, 16:56**

Alfa Romeo will spend their two opportunities in DF.

Posted: **28 Dec 2016, 13:05**

A reliability and a 1985 push for WIlliams please

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 14:32**

ATS will improve drag reduction and next years car

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 16:06**

D&T after Round 4
Hope everyone had a nice Christmas~! If you didn't, then don't worry~, because it's only one day of the year and no-one really enjoys it anyway~!

Ferrari

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Weight decrease of 5kg (Weight = 588kg < Weight = 583kg). D&T cost was £320,000.
Weight decrease of 4kg (Weight = 583kg < Weight = 579kg). D&T cost was £360,000.

Williams

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Reliability increase of 7% (Reliability = 48% > Reliability = 55%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.

McLaren

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Reliability increase of 2% (Reliability = 88% > Reliability = 90%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Downforce increase of 1% (Downforce = 93% > Downforce = 94%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Alfa Romeo

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Downforce increase of 2% (Downforce = 73% > Downforce = 75%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 75% > Downforce = 78%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Tyrrell

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Downforce increase of 2% (Downforce = 73% > Downforce = 75%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Reliability increase of 3% (Reliability = 74% > Reliability = 77%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Lotus

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Downforce increase of 2% (Downforce = 84% > Downforce = 86%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Drag decrease of 3% (Drag = 15% < Drag = 12%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Arrows

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Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 41% > Downforce = 47%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Driver development for Alessandro Nannini (Skill was increased by 1%). D&T cost was £360,000.

Ligier

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Engine reliability increase of 6% (Reliability = 46% > Reliability = 52%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.

Spirit

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Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 31% > Downforce = 34%). D&T cost was £160,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £180,000.

ATS

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Drag decrease of 7% (Drag = 68% < Drag = 61%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.

Osella

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Reliability increase of 6% (Reliability = 37% > Reliability = 43%). D&T cost was £320,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £360,000.

Minardi

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £160,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £180,000.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 16:06**

Round 5 - French Grand Prix, Dijon, 20th May 1984

Qualifying Results:
Lacking upgrades for the third consecutive Grand Prix, neither Brabham could set pole around Dijon. Cheever was full of energy, and eager to take the fight to the top teams; one wonders if he genuinely thinks he has a shot at the championship. The Williams team's constant development had moved their performances from 'slow' to 'erratic' - an improvement, nonetheless. Both Osellas put in solid performances; with each race they look more and more like a midfield team, rather than the backmarkers they've traditionally been cast-off as. In twenty-first place on the grid, Lauda seems to be taking a bath, once again, in his iffy-handling Renault. Chico Serra surprisingly out-qualified team-mate Winkelhock. Embarrassment for once-champion Alan Jones, who failed to qualify his underpowered Toleman, amid concerns about the Australian's fitness.

1. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 01:02.282
2. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +0.191
3. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +0.271
4. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +0.846
5. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +0.862
6. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) +01.357
7. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +01.850
8. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) +01.903
9. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +02.200
10. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) +02.219
11. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +02.251
12. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) +02.310
13. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +02.331
14. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +02.602
15. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +02.604
16. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +03.170
17. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03.222
18. John Watson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +03.289
19. Piercarlo Ghinzani - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +03.336
20. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +03.796
21. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) +04.119
22. Stefan Johansson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +04.167
23. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +04.307
24. Philippe Streiff - Spirit-Ford (Pirelli) +04.671
25. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +04.994
26. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +05.260
DNQ. Alan Jones - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +05.290
DNQ. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05.485
DNQ. Roberto Guerrero - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +07.551
DNQ. Guido Daccò - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +08.142

Race Results:
A great charge through the field saw Piquet spray champagne on the French crowd; he and Tambay swarmed Arnoux, who eventually made a mistake at the Parabolique and cracked under pressure. Patrese spent all afternoon with a gearbox that gradually fell apart; he revealed after the race, that he had spent the end of it with only fourth and fifth gear remaining. Brazilian new-boy Senna picked-up his first point. De Angelis, behind, simply lacked the pace to pass the Williams. Although he had been directly behind Senna toward the end of the race, he dropped back by several seconds on the last lap. A four-car group, headed by Nannini's Arrows and trailed by Ghinzani's Osella, squabbled over eighth place for the last fifteen-or-so laps, putting on a show of overtaking that delighted spectators, and flat-spotted some Pirellis. Cheever had stalled on the line and trailed everyone else, making dicey manoeuvres to slice through the pack, nearly being taken-off several times - Serra and Ghinzani proving especially dangerous to overtake. In the end, Cheever was destined not to finish, and in ironic fashion, he spun-off and stalled while veering away from team-mate Warwick, who lost the back-end of his Tyrrell in front of him.

1. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 1hr 42:21.583
2. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +0:31.300
3. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) +0:45.567
4. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +01:50.930
5. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +02:28.259
6. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03:04.192
7. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) +03:09.510
8. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +03:26.399
9. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +03:33.875
10. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03:46.857
11. Piercarlo Ghinzani - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +03:49.687
12. John Watson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +04:34.697
13. Philippe Streiff - Spirit-Ford (Pirelli) +05:02.299
Ret. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) - Accident
Ret. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) - Engine
Ret. Stefan Johansson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) - Suspension
Ret. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) - Gearbox
Ret. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) - Engine
Ret. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) - Spun-off
Ret. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Gearbox
Ret. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Distributor
Ret. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) - Driveshaft
Ret. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) - Engine
Ret. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) - Turbo
Ret. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) - Overheating

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. René Arnoux (22 points)
2. Nelson Piquet (18 points)
3. Patrick Tambay (18 points)
4. Ricardo Patrese (11 points)
5. Eddie Cheever (10 points)
6. Desiré Wilson (10 points)
7. Nigel Mansell (9 points)
8. Alain Prost (7 points)
9. Michele Alboreto (4 points)
10. Martin Brundle (4 points)
11. Derek Warwick (3 points)
12. Elio de Angelis (3 points)
13. Steffan Bellof (2 points)
14. Pierluigi Martini (2 points)
15. Piercarlo Ghinzani (1 point)
16. Ayrton Senna (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. McLaren (40 points)
2. Brabham (29 points)
3. Tyrrell (13 points)
4. Lotus (13 points)
5. Alfa Romeo (12 points)
6. Ferrari (10 points)
7. Renault (4 points)
8. Williams (3 points)
9. Osella (1 point)

There are 2 D&T opportunities before the next race.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 16:07**

Alfa halt engine development
After reviewing a difficult financial outlook for the next year, and citing the already-competitive state of their cars, Alfa Romeo Automobiles S.p.A. have formally announced the temporary pausation of their V8 turbo engine development programme.

The move was not without controversy, as an insider revealed that the decision - decided by the thirty members of senior management and board members - only passed with a 19:11 vote.

Alfa have not given a specific date for when development will resume, but IRI president Romano Prodi assured Italian press on Thursday, that funds would be given to resume development of the company's works Formula One engine "well before the end of the year."

The opportunity to perform development of the 890T engine is temporarily unavailable, and the engine's listing - within the 'Engine Development' section beneath the calendar, at the start of the thread - has been greyed-out, to represent this.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 18:11**

Ferrari will change their engine development focus to increasing horsepower, and spend both D&T tokens available before the next race on it.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 18:18**

We're still not getting any closer to the points, so one D&T on Downforce and the other on the '85 car- this year's already looking like a bit of a write-off.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 21:32**

Well thanks Alfa.

Anyways, Osella will ise 1 D&T for Downforce and the other for mechanical grip.

Posted: **30 Dec 2016, 23:46**

1 downforce and 1 car reliability

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 11:18**

1 mechanical grip and 1 downforce

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 11:22**

Spirit will invest in drag reduction and the 1985 car.

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 12:25**

?!?!??!!??!?!?!?!?!?!

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Alfa Romeo will invest in Downforce both times.

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 12:37**

Renault will put both tokens into next years car.

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 16:47**

McLaren will spend token in downforce and reliability

Posted: **31 Dec 2016, 16:48**

As usual, we will focus all of our development on next year's car.

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 13:30**

Both tokens on next year's car.

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 13:35**

Apologies, but I'm going to have to give Brabham up here, I've not been giving this my full attention so it's not really fair on the rest. Thanks for all your great efforts, this is a very well run series.

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 14:03**

Ataxia wrote:Apologies, but I'm going to have to give Brabham up here, I've not been giving this my full attention so it's not really fair on the rest. Thanks for all your great efforts, this is a very well run series.

And yet you are second in the championship.

Perhaps I should be taking a more hands-off approach! :pantano:

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 15:27**

Ataxia wrote:Apologies, but I'm going to have to give Brabham up here, I've not been giving this my full attention so it's not really fair on the rest. Thanks for all your great efforts, this is a very well run series.

No worries, and thanks for letting me know about this.

There are two people in the queue with priority to take-over Brabham at the moment, so if anyone is passing-by and wants to jump-in, I'm afraid you can't do that, right now. Anyone who wants to join the series, though, is welcome to state their interest and be added to the waiting list

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Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 20:19**

May I take over Brabham

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 20:32**

We will continue to pour development into next years car.

Posted: **02 Jan 2017, 22:45**

Ice1Racing wrote:May I take over Brabham

Permission granted~, since you're at the head of the queue

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Post some D&T for the Brabham team, if you want it. I'll give you a couple more days before the next race, in case you need a little time to catch-up on the thread.

Posted: **03 Jan 2017, 19:46**

As it's Monaco up next, Brabham will put both tokens into Mechanical Grip please

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 11:00**

ATS will spend both D&T tokens on weight reduction

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 13:57**

Mechanical grip and 1985 update for Williams please

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 22:39**

D&T after Round 5
Okey dokey~! I like the 'slower track' strategy from lots of teams in their upgrades~!

Ferrari

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Horsepower increase = 10HP (Horsepower = 660HP > Horsepower = 670HP). D&T cost was £400,000.
Horsepower increase = 11HP (Horsepower = 670HP > Horsepower = 681HP). D&T cost was £440,000.

Renault

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £280,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £320,000.

Brabham

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Mechanical grip increase of 3% (Mechanical grip = 77% > Mechanical grip = 80%). D&T cost was £160,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 2% (Mechanical grip = 80% > Mechanical grip = 82%). D&T cost was £200,000.

Williams

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Mechanical grip increase of 5% (Mechanical grip = 55% > Mechanical grip = 60%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.

McLaren

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Downforce increase of 1% (Downforce = 94% > Downforce = 95%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Reliability increase of 1% (Reliability = 90% > Reliability = 91%). D&T cost was £440,000.

Alfa Romeo

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Downforce increase of 2% (Downforce = 78% > Downforce = 80%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 80% > Downforce = 83%). D&T cost was £440,000.

Tyrrell

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Mechanical grip increase of 2% (Mechanical grip = 74% > Mechanical grip = 76%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Downforce increase of 3% (Downforce = 75% > Downforce = 78%). D&T cost was £440,000.

Lotus

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.

Arrows

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Downforce increase of 7% (Downforce = 47% > Downforce = 54%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £440,000.

Ligier

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Downforce increase of 6% (Downforce = 34% > Downforce = 40%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Reliability increase of 6% (Reliability = 47% > Reliability = 53%). D&T cost was £440,000.

Spirit

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Drag decrease of 4% (Drag = 82% < Drag = 78%). D&T cost was £200,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £220,000.

ATS

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Weight decrease of 4kg (Weight = 585kg < Weight = 581kg). D&T cost was £400,000.
Weight decrease of 4kg (Weight = 581kg < Weight = 577kg). D&T cost was £440,000.

Osella

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Downforce increase of 7% (Downforce = 35% > Downforce = 42%). D&T cost was £400,000.
Mechanical grip increase of 6% (Mechanical grip = 45% > Mechanical grip = 51%). D&T cost was £440,000.

RAM

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £200,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £240,000.

Minardi

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Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £200,000.
Development of next year's car. D&T cost was £220,000.

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 22:41**

Round 6 - Monaco Grand Prix, Monaco, 3rd June 1984

Qualifying Results:
Piquet set an incredible time, which even his team-mate, Arnoux, had no hope of matching. Martini in the Alfa wowed everyone with his precise, speedy driving. A fantastic seventh-place on the grid by Bellof in the unwieldy Williams. Brundle just managed to out-qualify team-mate Mansell, the Lotus' starting thirteenth and fourteenth. By far the best performance all-season from the Toleman team, their cars qualifying 12th and 19th; the skill of their drivers, and the inherent qualities of the TG184 chassis overcame the horsepower deficit they suffered with the DFVs. Baldi got one of the Osellas through, and Rosberg did the same with his over-powered Arrows. The smaller grid in Monte Carlo saw ten cars fail to qualify, including double-DNQs for the Arrows and ATS teams, both of whom could do little with their turbo BMW engines. The RAM team, while failing to qualify, did not finish last in the timesheet for once, and so are guaranteed a modicum of TV money, soon.

1. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 01:42.165
2. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) +0.815
3. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +0.942
4. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +01.301
5. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +01.386
6. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) +01.571
7. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +01.707
8. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +01.879
9. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) +02.470
10. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +02.575
11. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +02.745
12. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +02.838
13. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +02.940
14. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +02.957
15. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03.320
16. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) +03.356
17. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +03.388
18. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) +03.510
19. Alan Jones - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +04.486
20. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +05.299
DNQ. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +05.367
DNQ. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +05.450
20. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) (time unknown)
DNQ. Keke Rosberg - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) (time unknown)
DNQ. Manfred Winkelhock - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) +05.367
DNQ. John Watson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +05.617
DNQ. Piercarlo Ghinzani - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +05.666
DNQ. Stefan Johansson - ATS-BMW (Goodyear) +05.889
DNQ. Alessandro Nannini - Arrows-BMW (Pirelli) +06.115
DNQ. Philippe Streiff - Spirit-Ford (Pirelli) +06.325
DNQ. Guido Daccò - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +07.288
DNQ. Roberto Guerrero - RAM-Ford (Pirelli) +07.526
DNQ. Andrea de Cesaris - Minardi-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +08.240

Race Results:
Unbelievable! An unbelievable penultimate-lap pass by Arnoux at La Rascasse, in which the Frenchman, for the first time, made obvious his desire to take the psychological fight to Piquet! Martini kept out of the wall, progressively driving slower-and-slower as he got closer-and-closer to the end of the race; Mansell eventually got past him in the last few laps, after a spectacular charge for the Englishman, that was helped by gaining six places in the first lap chaos. Disappointment for Ferrari, with de Angelis just outside the points, and Prost being taken out in the first corner by Warwick, who also hit Alan Jones. The Toleman team must surely be disappointed with the race, this track having likely been their best chance at scoring points all-season. Poor performance by the Renault drivers, who are no doubt eager to move-on to a circuit that better suits their car, assuming it exists.

1. René Arnoux - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) 1hr 59:44.265
2. Nelson Piquet - McLaren-Honda (Michelin) +0:04.103
3. Nigel Mansell - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +01:27.112
4. Pierluigi Martini - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) +01:33.668
5. Patrick Tambay - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +01:57.969
6. Riccardo Patrese - Brabham-Renault (Michelin) +02:05.663
7. Elio de Angelis - Ferrari (Michelin) +02:57.353
8. Martin Brundle - Lotus-Renault (Goodyear) +03:12.750
9. Eddie Cheever - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) +03:15.114
10. Ayrton Senna - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) +03:34.577
11. Thierry Boutsen - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) +04:23.211
12. Michele Alboreto - Renault (Michelin) +04:42.262
13. Niki Lauda - Renault (Michelin) +06:14.418
14. Mauro Baldi - Osella-Alfa Romeo (Pirelli) +07:15.338
Ret. Desiré Wilson - Alfa Romeo (Goodyear) - Fuel pump
Ret. Chico Serra - Ligier-BMW (Pirelli) - Driveshaft
Ret. Steffan Bellof - Williams-Porsche (Goodyear) - Distributor
Ret. Alan Jones - Toleman-Ford (Goodyear) - Accident
Ret. Derek Warwick - Tyrrell-Renault (Goodyear) - Puncture
Ret. Alain Prost - Ferrari (Michelin) - Accident

Championship Standings:
Driver's Championship
1. René Arnoux (31 points)
2. Nelson Piquet (24 points)
3. Patrick Tambay (20 points)
4. Nigel Mansell (13 points)
5. Ricardo Patrese (12 points)
6. Eddie Cheever (10 points)
7. Desiré Wilson (10 points)
8. Alain Prost (7 points)
9. Pierluigi Martini (5 points)
10. Michele Alboreto (4 points)
11. Martin Brundle (4 points)
12. Derek Warwick (3 points)
13. Elio de Angelis (3 points)
14. Steffan Bellof (2 points)
15. Piercarlo Ghinzani (1 point)
16. Ayrton Senna (1 point)

Constructor's Championship
1. McLaren (55 points)
2. Brabham (32 points)
3. Lotus (17 points)
4. Alfa Romeo (15 points)
5. Tyrrell (13 points)
6. Ferrari (10 points)
7. Renault (4 points)
8. Williams (3 points)
9. Osella (1 point)

There are 2 D&T opportunities before the next race.

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 22:48**

Wait a second, Rosberg disappeared in the race, even though he qualified (last). Do you have any idea where he finished (or whether he even started) so we can at least know what went wrong. (sorry if this sounds angry- it really isn't)

Anyway, Arrows will spend our money on Drag reduction and next years' car (which will hopefully look interesting enough for the timekeepers to keep track of!

)

Posted: **04 Jan 2017, 23:56**

This Could Be You wrote:Wait a second, Rosberg disappeared in the race, even though he qualified (last). Do you have any idea where he finished (or whether he even started) so we can at least know what went wrong. (sorry if this sounds angry- it really isn't)

Hang on, there's twenty people listed in the race result, but he's not there...

We did have a problem with the electronic computer system during qualifying and had to make a couple of changes to the qualifying results with the quill pen and parchment.

...

I've realised what's happened:

We published two different qualifying results, accidently. 'v1' is the version before we edited it (with Serra qualifying), and 'v2' is the version we edited by hand (with Rosberg qualifying).

We circulated the original 'v1' version during the weekend to the paddock, and used it as the entry list for the race on Sunday, hence the lack of protestation by teams.

We published our corrected 'v2' version with the media, after the race.

Rosberg should have been in the race, and Serra shouldn't have been.

This is a complete calamity on our part. I don't know how we are going to get out of this without facing legal action by the Arrows team, and being soundly ridiculed...

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 00:21**

Conflict Resolution (Serraberggate)
In the interests of clearing this issue, involving the Arrows team, up as quickly as possible, we have initiated the following action:

The FIA will…

Calculate the average finishing position of Keke Rosberg's Arrows-BMW entry, from the second 'quad grouping' of races which determine the allocation of the second payment of FOCA TV money.

In this case, however, there has only been one race, which resulted in a seventeenth-place retirement, and is therefore not considered a representative result of the entry's performance.

Therefore, an average finishing position of the entry from this – and the previous – 'quad grouping' of races will be calculated.

This is: 13.4.

You will be reimbursed compensation at twice the rate of this position's prize money. This money will be deducted from the second set of prize money to be paid to teams after race eight.

The amount the Arrows team will be refunded is: £272,000.

The FIA and Olivetti would like to apologise for this mix-up.

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 00:52**

We will spend both D&T opportunities on Drag Reduction.

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 02:06**

1 mechanical grip and 1 car reliability please

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 03:42**

Tyrrell will spend 2x D&T on downforce

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 12:28**

A drag reduction and 1985 development for Williams please

Posted: **05 Jan 2017, 12:58**

Spirit will aim to reduce drag and work on the 1985 car.

Posted: **06 Jan 2017, 11:03**

We will continue to develop our 1985 car, 1984 is a lost cause.

Posted: **07 Jan 2017, 22:01**

Put me on the waiting list, please.

Posted: **07 Jan 2017, 22:12**

Reject_Dom wrote:Put me on the waiting list, please.

Even after I just forgot to include a car in a race that it qualified for?!

Guess I got away with that, then 8-)

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You are number two in the queue

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Posted: **07 Jan 2017, 22:19**

Renault put one token on drag reduction and another on its 1985 car

Grand Prix Rejects

F1 1984+

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