Ponderbox

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 18 Jan 2015, 02:09

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Turkey: an anonymous career... for a racetrack?

A lot of undelivered potential I think. On the other hand, definitely oversold. On paper it was good, but there's very few things I can remember about the track, with the exception of Fisichella first-lap shenanigans and certain future world champions crashing into their teammates.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 18 Jan 2015, 21:20

Rob Dylan wrote:A lot of undelivered potential I think. On the other hand, definitely oversold. On paper it was good, but there's very few things I can remember about the track, with the exception of Fisichella first-lap shenanigans and certain future world champions crashing into their teammates.

Of course it looks good on paper. "Let's copy Interlagos," is an easy sell to motorsport fans after all. However, reality tends to bite.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 19 Jan 2015, 11:41

Klon wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:A lot of undelivered potential I think. On the other hand, definitely oversold. On paper it was good, but there's very few things I can remember about the track, with the exception of Fisichella first-lap shenanigans and certain future world champions crashing into their teammates.

Of course it looks good on paper. "Let's copy Interlagos," is an easy sell to motorsport fans after all. However, reality tends to bite.

Copies tend to be viewed poorly in general. That is why that copying corners or other features from other tracks was never a good strategy. Imagine if the entire F1 season was only run in Interlagos. With 18 clones of Barrichello as drivers...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2015, 11:47

DanielPT wrote:
Klon wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:A lot of undelivered potential I think. On the other hand, definitely oversold. On paper it was good, but there's very few things I can remember about the track, with the exception of Fisichella first-lap shenanigans and certain future world champions crashing into their teammates.

Of course it looks good on paper. "Let's copy Interlagos," is an easy sell to motorsport fans after all. However, reality tends to bite.

Copies tend to be viewed poorly in general. That is why that copying corners or other features from other tracks was never a good strategy. Imagine if the entire F1 season was only run in Interlagos. With 18 clones of Barrichello as drivers...

However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 19 Jan 2015, 12:37

dr-baker wrote:However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

Well, maybe. But overtaking manoeuvres would most probably end up in retirement for one or both Sennas. And most likely you would end up getting bored only because of lack of variety.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2015, 14:01

DanielPT wrote:
dr-baker wrote:However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

Well, maybe. But overtaking manoeuvres would most probably end up in retirement for one or both Sennas. And most likely you would end up getting bored only because of lack of variety.

OK, 5 Ayrtons, 5 Alain Prosts, then 5 Bruno Sennas and 5 Nicolas Prosts?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 19 Jan 2015, 14:43

dr-baker wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
dr-baker wrote:However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

Well, maybe. But overtaking manoeuvres would most probably end up in retirement for one or both Sennas. And most likely you would end up getting bored only because of lack of variety.

OK, 5 Ayrtons, 5 Alain Prosts, then 5 Bruno Sennas and 5 Nicolas Prosts?

Not bad that. You would have the surviving Alain or Senna topping the game after a streak of clashes between the seniors, then you would have the 5 Brunos and the 5 Nicolas in an hopeless fight to emerge from anonymous midfielder status.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Jan 2015, 17:35

DanielPT wrote:
dr-baker wrote:However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

Well, maybe. But overtaking manoeuvres would most probably end up in retirement for one or both Sennas. And most likely you would end up getting bored only because of lack of variety.

10 Taki Inoue clones + 10 J-D Délétraz clones, however, would work fine. In a spec Andrea Moda series (Life's are too predictable)
On the other hand, mushrooms get you the same results for lar less money.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2015, 19:41

This wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
dr-baker wrote:However, replace 18 Barrichello clones with 18 Ayrton Senna clones, and that could well be worth watching!

Well, maybe. But overtaking manoeuvres would most probably end up in retirement for one or both Sennas. And most likely you would end up getting bored only because of lack of variety.

10 Taki Inoue clones + 10 J-D Délétraz clones, however, would work fine. In a spec Andrea Moda series (Life's are too predictable)
On the other hand, mushrooms get you the same results for lar less money.

Could we chuck one or two Yuji Ides into that mix, or would that be the equivalent of adding some Lifes into the mix? Maybe have some Mastercard Lolas into the mix instead?

tBone · Post by **tBone** » 19 Jan 2015, 20:37

What about one Tarso Marques in a Formula Ford chassis? Will he stand a chance?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Jan 2015, 20:43

tBone wrote:What about one Tarso Marques in a Formula Ford chassis? Will he stand a chance?

He'll probably win every single race. Unless if he got caught out by lapping Délétraz.
We also need Jean Ragnotti to drive the safety car.

Post by **Frogfoot9013** » 19 Jan 2015, 20:49

This wrote:
tBone wrote:What about one Tarso Marques in a Formula Ford chassis? Will he stand a chance?

He'll probably win every single race. Unless if he got caught out by lapping Délétraz.
We also need Jean Ragnotti to drive the safety car.

We should get that crazy Mayor of Pau who crashed the pace car into Franz Engstler in the WTCC to drive it instead.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 19 Jan 2015, 21:07

Frogfoot9013 wrote:
This wrote:
tBone wrote:What about one Tarso Marques in a Formula Ford chassis? Will he stand a chance?

He'll probably win every single race. Unless if he got caught out by lapping Délétraz.
We also need Jean Ragnotti to drive the safety car.

We should get that crazy Mayor of Pau who crashed the pace car into Franz Engstler in the WTCC to drive it instead.

Because Ragnotti crashed into Inoue. With 10 Inoue clones, it's always a gamble which clone he's going to hit!

Post by **Miguel98** » 19 Jan 2015, 21:36

tBone wrote:What about one Tarso Marques in a Formula Ford chassis? Will he stand a chance?

The thing is... Marques wasn't a bad driver, at all.

He would probably rekt Inoue, or Deletraz for that matter, everyday of the week.

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 21 Jan 2015, 18:01

Race in Interlagos with 18 Rubens Barrichellos = no one would finish because everyone's car would fail while set for victory.

dinizintheoven · Post by **dinizintheoven** » 22 Jan 2015, 00:15

Bleu wrote:Race in Interlagos with 18 Rubens Barrichellos = no one would finish because everyone's car would fail while set for victory.

Hunt the Shunt wrote:Well, we've got this ridiculous situation where we're all sitting by the start-finish line waiting for a winner to come past, and we don't seem to be getting one...

Sir Murray the Excitable wrote:And round Junção comes Rubens Barrichello, surely, to win the Brazilian Gra... AAAAAAAAAAND OFF! OOOOOOOH! I CANNOT BELIEVE IT! RUBENS BARRICHELLO CRASHES AT THE LAST CORNER!

Toshihiro Suzuki wrote:AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH RUBEN BARIKERO CRASHUUUUU CRASHUUUUUUUU!!! AAAAAAAH!

Heiko Waser wrote:Unfall mit Barrichello.

Murray wrote:COME ON, HEIKO! ISN'T THIS EXCITING?

Heiko wrote:Nein.

Klon wrote:*very, very loud German obscenities for six hours non-stop*

good_Ralf · Post by **good_Ralf** » 22 Jan 2015, 18:16

Jacques Schulz wrote:UNFAAALLLLL BARRICHELLLLLLLOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AUS!!!!!

andrew2209 · Post by **andrew2209** » 22 Jan 2015, 18:50

Jonathan Legard wrote:Oh problems there for Barrichello! That's a problem for him!

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 22 Jan 2015, 19:03

Matti Kyllönen wrote:Barrichello...BARRICHELLO ON HIDASTUMASSA! MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKA! MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKA! HAKKINEN VOITTAA!!!!!!!

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 22 Jan 2015, 20:11

Antonio Lobato wrote:Ojo, Barrichello fuera, ¿eh?, ATENCIÓN, BARRICHELLO FUERA, FERNANDO SE PONE LÍDER, GUAU GUAU GUAU, QUÉ INMENSO MAGIC ALONSO, QUÉ GRANDE, EL REY DE REYES, VAMOS FERNANDO, ESPAÑA ESTÁ CONTIGO, ETERNO EL PROFESOR ALONSO, TOMA, TOMA, TOMA, TOMA, TOMA!

Post by **tommykl** » 22 Jan 2015, 21:27

Gaëtan Vigneron wrote:Et ohlalalalala! C'est un accident de la part de notre ami Rubens qui ne méritait pas ça du tout! Pilote très sympathique, ce brésilien, que je connais d'ailleurs très bien, ayant fait mes débuts dans le paddock la même année que lui en 1993. Depuis, il a participé à plus de 300 Grands Prix, en remportant dix, et en tant que spectateur neutre, il faut quand même pleindre le pauvre Rubens.

Generic French commentator wrote:Et pendant ce temps, en GP2, Arthur Pic a atteint une fantastique douzième position!

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 22 Jan 2015, 23:31

José Miguel Barros wrote:... este ano os pneus estão a misturar a grelha da Formula 1. A Mercedes adaptou-se melhor, mas a Red Bull tem um carro à altura e se o desenvolver poderá ainda ter hipótese de ganhar mais corridas...

*Rubens Barrichello crashes while leading*

José Miguel Barros wrote:... e talvez ainda de lutar pelo título, quem sabe. Entretanto parece haver nova volta mais rápida...

Tiago Monteiro wrote:Sim, mas parece que o Rubens acaba de se despistar em quanto liderava e assim é uma grande pena. É um amigo com quem simpatizo muito.

José Miguel Barros wrote:... eheu... bom, se assim for é dramático para ele... São os pneus a revelarem-se decisivos mais uma vez. A Pirelli disse que...

watka · Post by **watka** » 23 Jan 2015, 01:01

All we need now is Palik. Where's Shizuka?

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 23 Jan 2015, 11:46

Jonathan Legard speaking at a million miles an hour wrote:And here comes Barrichello, up the hill, what can he do? Here is the man in form, and this is crucial! Going round the curb, turns left, turns right, joining the battle, he's on a charge now! Barrich- is that Barrichello? No sorry it's Raikkonen. Oh wait sorry yes it is Barrichello! Either way there's a problem there. And suddenly it's all gone wrong for him, and this could be crucial for the championship!

Writing this made me realise how much I miss the hilarity of Jonathan Legard.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 23 Jan 2015, 12:01

dinizintheoven wrote:
Heiko Waser wrote:Unfall mit Barrichello.

Christian Danner wrote:Jesos Maria!

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Jan 2015, 14:21

watka wrote:All we need now is Palik. Where's Shizuka?

You called?

Too bad he retired from everything

Post by **Nuppiz** » 23 Jan 2015, 21:15

Biscione wrote:
Matti Kyllönen wrote:Paritsello...PARITSELLO HYYTYY! MIKA! MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIKAAAA HÄKKINEN! HÄKKINEN VOITTAA!!!!!!!

Fix'd.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 23 Jan 2015, 22:59

Remember Barrichello's pass on Barrichello? That was crazy.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 Jan 2015, 00:38

Murray walker wrote:In this all-Barichello race, we have Barichello and Barichello sharing the front row, and Michael Schumacher in second!

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 24 Jan 2015, 11:41

Imagine how action-packed a race would be at Turkey with only Fisichellas? I can also imagine them all lining up in the wrong grid slots at Malaysia and delaying the start by 15 minutes

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Jan 2015, 11:46

This wrote:
Murray walker wrote:In this all-Barichello race, we have Barichello and Barichello sharing the front row, and Michael Schumacher in second!

Was this in the two-seater Ferrari F1 car that Autosport ran with as lead story on 1st April 1999?

danfilm007 · Post by **danfilm007** » 24 Jan 2015, 20:42

Dan 'the cockney# Marr's take on it wrote: Oh dear, there's problems for Michael Schumacher there, he's of the race (30 seconds later) Wait, that's not Schumi, that's Barrichello! I'm doing well today folks!

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 24 Jan 2015, 20:45

Rob Dylan wrote:Imagine how action-packed a race would be at Turkey with only Fisichellas? I can also imagine them all lining up in the wrong grid slots at Malaysia and delaying the start by 15 minutes

Still better than a race with 20 Trulli's in Valencia.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 24 Jan 2015, 21:38

This wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Imagine how action-packed a race would be at Turkey with only Fisichellas? I can also imagine them all lining up in the wrong grid slots at Malaysia and delaying the start by 15 minutes

Still better than a race with 20 Trulli's in Valencia.

Nothing wrong with a Bernoldi train in Monaco though... Or was that a Bernoldi blockage?

AdrianBelmonte_ · Post by **AdrianBelmonte_** » 24 Jan 2015, 23:48

dr-baker wrote:
This wrote:
Rob Dylan wrote:Imagine how action-packed a race would be at Turkey with only Fisichellas? I can also imagine them all lining up in the wrong grid slots at Malaysia and delaying the start by 15 minutes

Still better than a race with 20 Trulli's in Valencia.

Nothing wrong with a Bernoldi train in Monaco though... Or was that a Bernoldi blockage?

20 Apicellas in Monza, shortest race EVER

Jan Magnussen · Post by **Rob Dylan** » 25 Jan 2015, 00:10

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 25 Jan 2015, 01:15

Rob Dylan wrote:

Aw here, gonnae no dae that. Now you've got me binge watching Still Game again daein hee-haw instead of ma work. Skelp roond the the ear fur ye.

WeirdKerr · Post by **WeirdKerr** » 26 Jan 2015, 20:15

20 Luizzis in Monza, shortest race EVER

Fixed

Post by **tommykl** » 26 Jan 2015, 20:39

WeirdKerr wrote:

20 Luizzis in Monza, shortest race EVER

Fixed

Nah. Half the field would get taken out on lap 1. The other half would continue, simultaneously running fourth throughout the race before retiring at the same time.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 26 Jan 2015, 21:53

AdrianBelmonte_ wrote:20 Apicellas in Monza, shortest race EVER

No, I can do shorter.

20 Martin Brundles at Silverstone!