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dr-baker wrote:Has ROTY been decided yet?
(Plus, I'll be away from this Sunday until Friday, so I hope I will not miss any opportunities in the meantime...)
JeremyMcClean wrote:dr-baker wrote:Has ROTY been decided yet?
(Plus, I'll be away from this Sunday until Friday, so I hope I will not miss any opportunities in the meantime...)
Didn't Nathanael Spencer win that award?
dr-baker wrote:JeremyMcClean wrote:dr-baker wrote:Has ROTY been decided yet?
(Plus, I'll be away from this Sunday until Friday, so I hope I will not miss any opportunities in the meantime...)
Didn't Nathanael Spencer win that award?
Damn. How did Jack Christopherson do in that?
FMecha wrote:That is without bonuses, right Aerond?
Meanwhile: TROPICO! Y U NO UPGRADE UR CAR?
AdrianSutil wrote:How does the prize money work? I know the bottom teams get the most and the top teams less, so we should pick up a handful of much-needed credits, but is there a final decision yet?
Wizzie wrote:Something tells me that Dofasco are in a whole world of trouble for 2015.
Aerond wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:How does the prize money work? I know the bottom teams get the most and the top teams less, so we should pick up a handful of much-needed credits, but is there a final decision yet?
Not exactly; teams earn credits by scoring points, winning races and for final classification, pole positions and fastest laps are useful, as well as ROTR and ROTY awards. Then there´s TV Money which guarantees a minimum income for every team, with the slower teams earning more than top teams to equalise things a bit.
Last but not least, PreQ teams earn a bit more as well through PreQ cup.
Aerond wrote:Not the 2015 calendar draft; but this is the accountings after Japanese GP (Penalties for exceeding the driver limit to Trueba Alitalia and Mitie accounted):
DNGineering: 60
Gillet: 0
HRT: 80
Jones: 5
Arrowtech: 0
Sunshine: 0
ARC: 160
GRM: 30
Prospec: 240
Foxdale: 25
Kamaha: 0
MRT: 0
Phoenix: 160
Trueba Alitalia: 230
Tropico: 560
Dofasco: 0
Mitie: 210
Acuri: 160
Shonan: 260
Mecha: 55
kostas22 wrote:Aerond wrote:Not the 2015 calendar draft; but this is the accountings after Japanese GP (Penalties for exceeding the driver limit to Trueba Alitalia and Mitie accounted):
DNGineering: 60
Gillet: 0
HRT: 80
Jones: 5
Arrowtech: 0
Sunshine: 0
ARC: 160
GRM: 30
Prospec: 240
Foxdale: 25
Kamaha: 0
MRT: 0
Phoenix: 160
Trueba Alitalia: 230
Tropico: 560
Dofasco: 0
Mitie: 210
Acuri: 160
Shonan: 260
Mecha: 55
Is this before end of season prize money is given out? Or after?
Aerond wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:How does the prize money work? I know the bottom teams get the most and the top teams less, so we should pick up a handful of much-needed credits, but is there a final decision yet?
Not exactly; teams earn credits by scoring points, winning races and for final classification, pole positions and fastest laps are useful, as well as ROTR and ROTY awards. Then there´s TV Money which guarantees a minimum income for every team, with the slower teams earning more than top teams to equalise things a bit.
Last but not least, PreQ teams earn a bit more as well through PreQ cup.
JeremyMcClean wrote:Well, if you take this post from Aerond, which I'm assuming is the official nominations for ROTY, then Christopherson fails to make the podium.
Aerond wrote:No, those were just my suggestions as to who should be ROTY. IMHO neither Shonan or Tropico or Mecha should be ROTY, why? Very simple, these teams did the best they could with the resources at their disposal; in fact Tropico jumped ahead and sure will jump again next season. Now I´ll take into account your nominations and will elaborate the Top 3 ROTY.
Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:No, those were just my suggestions as to who should be ROTY. IMHO neither Shonan or Tropico or Mecha should be ROTY, why? Very simple, these teams did the best they could with the resources at their disposal; in fact Tropico jumped ahead and sure will jump again next season. Now I´ll take into account your nominations and will elaborate the Top 3 ROTY.
I agree with your assessment on Tropico and Shonan. Mecha on the other hand have done everything in their power to be in contention with their second-half implosion
pasta_maldonado wrote:Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:No, those were just my suggestions as to who should be ROTY. IMHO neither Shonan or Tropico or Mecha should be ROTY, why? Very simple, these teams did the best they could with the resources at their disposal; in fact Tropico jumped ahead and sure will jump again next season. Now I´ll take into account your nominations and will elaborate the Top 3 ROTY.
I agree with your assessment on Tropico and Shonan. Mecha on the other hand have done everything in their power to be in contention with their second-half implosion
IMHO Remindergate,the Al Faisal lawsuit, and sacking all senior personnel in conjunction with the poor performance IMHO gives them a solid Reject of the Year nomination
eurobrun wrote:But wouldn't that effectivrly be rewarding for all the controversey they created.
AndreaModa wrote:eurobrun wrote:But wouldn't that effectivrly be rewarding for all the controversey they created.
Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones!
Klon wrote:AndreaModa wrote:eurobrun wrote:But wouldn't that effectivrly be rewarding for all the controversey they created.
Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones!
I have to disagree with you there - who is the Best In The World™ at creating controversy?
(But it was 2013 )
AndreaModa wrote:eurobrun wrote:But wouldn't that effectivrly be rewarding for all the controversey they created.
Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones!
kostas22 wrote:AndreaModa wrote:eurobrun wrote:But wouldn't that effectivrly be rewarding for all the controversey they created.
Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones!
I can haz ROTY money nao?
Shizuka wrote:So Shonan has 260, will get 10 from the PreQ cup (...for scoring nothing!), so that's 270 plus the TV money.
Should be enough for a chassis replacement.
dr-baker wrote:kostas22 wrote:AndreaModa wrote:Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones!
I can haz ROTY money nao?
What? Jack Christopherson wasn't the runaway winner of the award?
Autosport wrote:Kamaha offer Jesus Plaza contract
Kamaha have offered out of work driver Jesus Plaza a contract as reserve driver for the Kamaha team, if he accepts then Kamaha will easily set the record of team with the most number of starts between the drivers without a race win. Amazingly this number will be more then all the other teams drivers combined.
Autosport wrote:Kamaha offer Jesus Plaza contract
Kamaha have offered out of work driver Jesus Plaza a contract as reserve driver for the Kamaha team, if he accepts then Kamaha will easily set the record of team with the most number of starts between the drivers without a race win. Amazingly this number will be more then all the other teams drivers combined.
Wizzie wrote:Autosport wrote:Kamaha offer Jesus Plaza contract
Kamaha have offered out of work driver Jesus Plaza a contract as reserve driver for the Kamaha team, if he accepts then Kamaha will easily set the record of team with the most number of starts between the drivers without a race win. Amazingly this number will be more then all the other teams drivers combined.
Why this kid doesn't have a race drive for 2015 yet muppets like Darren Older Jr do is a crime against humanity.
eurobrun wrote:Wizzie wrote:Autosport wrote:Kamaha offer Jesus Plaza contract
Kamaha have offered out of work driver Jesus Plaza a contract as reserve driver for the Kamaha team, if he accepts then Kamaha will easily set the record of team with the most number of starts between the drivers without a race win. Amazingly this number will be more then all the other teams drivers combined.
Why this kid doesn't have a race drive for 2015 yet muppets like Darren Older Jr do is a crime against humanity.
I would have tried to sign him for Autodynamics but I needed a pay driver.
JeremyMcClean wrote:eurobrun wrote:Wizzie wrote:Why this kid doesn't have a race drive for 2015 yet muppets like Darren Older Jr do is a crime against humanity.
I would have tried to sign him for Autodynamics but I needed a pay driver.
Isn't Plaza a pay-driver?
Wizzie wrote:It isn't 10 anymore. The system got changed two weeks ago and it's now 20. It's just that nobody's been bothered to add it to the regulations page yet.
Shizuka wrote:Wizzie wrote:It isn't 10 anymore. The system got changed two weeks ago and it's now 20. It's just that nobody's been bothered to add it to the regulations page yet.
Oh yeah, forgot about that. 280 plus TV money - has to be enough for a chassis.
Shizuka wrote:Not bad.
I still wouldn't buy the Jordan 191 with that
Wizzie wrote:Shizuka wrote:Not bad.
I still wouldn't buy the Jordan 191 with that
The Jordan 191's ridiculously overpriced. Then again, the price for half the components on the list have no correlation to their actual stats relative to everything else.
Seriously though, with that amount of money, not only can you get yourself a half-decent chassis but you can upgrade to the IV Spec Ford HB as well.
Speaking of Ford, I kinda like the fact that they supplied eight teams on the grid for 2014. Brings back the glory days of 80s and 90s F1 where virtually every privateer team had either a Ford, a Hart or a Judd engine. Man, we need more Hart and Judd engines just for the hell of it
Wizzie wrote:Seriously though, with that amount of money, not only can you get yourself a half-decent chassis but you can upgrade to the IV Spec Ford HB as well.
But only a chassis swap first.AndreaModa wrote:Exactly. And if we all think about it, it all wasn't that controversial was it? If we were awarding it based on that, Alitalia would walk away with it, maybe followed in second by Jones
kostas22 wrote: I can haz ROTY money nao?
dr-baker wrote:
What? Jack Christopherson wasn't the runaway winner of the award?
Wizzie wrote:That's because except for his fluke win in France, his teammate Douglas Mann wasn't that much better