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Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 21:50
by RonDenisDeletraz
You missed the Autodynamics livery.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 21:53
by TomWazzleshaw
And that MRT livery is about to be changed considerably anyway once I can be bothered.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 21:55
by pasta_maldonado
Wizzie wrote:And that MRT livery is about to be changed considerably anyway once I can be bothered.
Sorry for the rejectful effort on my behalf
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 21:56
by TomWazzleshaw
pasta_maldonado wrote:Wizzie wrote:And that MRT livery is about to be changed considerably anyway once I can be bothered.
Sorry for the rejectful effort on my behalf
No worries mate. The bulk of it will remain the same. It's only the wings and the top of the sidepods that'll be changed along with a new set of sponsorship logos.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 22:02
by Nuppiz
eurobrun wrote:You missed the Autodynamics livery.
Added to the list.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 08 Aug 2012, 22:03
by pasta_maldonado
Wizzie wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:Wizzie wrote:And that MRT livery is about to be changed considerably anyway once I can be bothered.
Sorry for the rejectful effort on my behalf
No worries mate. The bulk of it will remain the same. It's only the wings and the top of the sidepods that'll be changed along with a new set of sponsorship logos.
To be honest that was my first GP2 livery and I struggled a bit with he small size
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 04:03
by SuperAguri
Prince Falik wrote:Yes yes yes, I have students from the great art university of Nigeria, Brixton branch working on the Arrowtech design and early drafts have looked cracking. We do have sponsorship deals from Western Union, The Frist Bank of Nigeria, Nigerian Tourist Board, Cepco, Al-Faisal Investment Company, Bourjois and of course P Minus Energy drinks. we should have a car design ready for the weekend.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 07:12
by tommykl
tommykl wrote:Here is the Gillet, complete with adjustment due to the collapse of Dexia (we'll just say that this happened at the end of 2014, mkay?).
Hum, hum.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 08:58
by Nuppiz
tommykl wrote:Hum, hum.
List updated.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 09 Aug 2012, 11:54
by FMecha
Klon wrote:kostas22 wrote:I would be careful. Blackmail will not settle well with the teams. We may be forced to start a breakaway organisation if you start to shove frivilous penalties down our throats. It was just a (logical) suggestion.
A breakaway series from a breakaway series? That would be a new one.
FYI, F1RLFS (yes, under the old IRDU/Pointrox regime) was intended as that. Then Nuppiz came and...
...it became another ladder in RWRS' fedder series.
FYI to Aerond (added August 12): If I'm away during chassis selection, keep in mind that Mecha will not change chassis or engine unless notified.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 05:57
by TomWazzleshaw
On the basis that it'll give me something to do on the wiki, could you please release the 2015 calender, oh overlord?
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 09:55
by Aerond
Wizzie wrote:On the basis that it'll give me something to do on the wiki, could you please release the 2015 calender, oh overlord?
I actually have better plans for you (check email)
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 10:01
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:Wizzie wrote:On the basis that it'll give me something to do on the wiki, could you please release the 2015 calender, oh overlord?
I actually have better plans for you (check email)
Email? What email?
Then again, Yahoo can be on the temperamental side sometimes.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 10:02
by Aerond
Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:Wizzie wrote:On the basis that it'll give me something to do on the wiki, could you please release the 2015 calender, oh overlord?
I actually have better plans for you (check email)
Email? What email?
Then again, Yahoo can be on the temperamental side sometimes.
In a few minutes
(Just done)
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 10:38
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:Wizzie wrote:Email? What email?
Then again, Yahoo can be on the temperamental side sometimes.
In a few minutes
(Just done)
Ok. I did what you wanted on the wiki. NOW can we have our calender?
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 17:17
by Aerond
There you go with my calendar proposal:
1.Tasman GP - Adelaide - 1st March
2.Australian GP - Mount Panorama - 8th March
3.Mediterranean GP - Imola (early 90´s) - 29th March
4.Monaco GP - Monte Carlo - 12th April
5.Mexican GP - Hermanos Rodriguez - 3rd May
6.United States GP - Long Beach - 10th May
7.Canadian GP - Montreal - 24th May
8.British GP - Brands Hatch - 14th June
9.German GP - Norisring - 28th June
10.Belgian GP - Spa - 12th July
11.Austrian GP - A1 Ring - 26th July
12.Italian GP - Monza - 30th August
13.North Sea GP - Zandvoort - 6th September
14.Chinese GP - Macau - 27th September
15.Japanese GP - Fuji - 11th October
16.Brazilian GP - Autodromo Internacional Nelson Piquet - 25th October
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 17:41
by Klon
This calendar couldn't be a worse copy of a mid-90ies calendar if we'd try.
Not like there are any better ways of doing this.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 17:48
by Aerond
Klon wrote:This calendar couldn't be a worse copy of a mid-90ies calendar if we'd try.
Not like there are any better ways of doing this.
Oh come on! Half of the calendar never saw the F1 in the 90´s
but we could swap the order of some of the European races to make you feel comfortable
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 17:59
by Aerond
We could also add Early 90´s Estoril instead of Early 90´s Imola.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 18:13
by DemocalypseNow
Aerond wrote:We could also add Early 90´s Estoril instead of Early 90´s Imola.
Absolutely not!!
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 18:17
by Klon
Aerond wrote:We could also add Early 90´s Estoril instead of Early 90´s Imola.
Oh, please, have any mercy. I'm sorry for having said something.
If I would change any track (but there's no need to, really) I would replace Montreal with Vancouver (I know it'd be worse, but I like the Vancouver track)
I was more going on about the order of the not-EU races: maybe putting Japan after the Australian races could be cool, at least that is unorthodox. Although on the European tracks it would be way more cost-efficient to have Spa - Norisring - Red-Bull-Ring in that order.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 19:08
by pasta_maldonado
Klon wrote:Aerond wrote:We could also add Early 90´s Estoril instead of Early 90´s Imola.
Oh, please, have any mercy. I'm sorry for having said something.
If I would change any track (but there's no need to, really) I would replace Montreal with Vancouver (I know it'd be worse, but I like the Vancouver track)
I was more going on about the order of the not-EU races: maybe putting Japan after the Australian races could be cool, at least that is unorthodox. Although on the European tracks it would be way more cost-efficient to have Spa - Norisring - Red-Bull-Ring in that order.
And then move the North Sea Grand Prix to before Spa
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 19:18
by Klon
pasta_maldonado wrote:And then move the North Sea Grand Prix to before Spa
Yeah, I forgot that one. Thank you very much.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 19:55
by Aerond
Klon wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:And then move the North Sea Grand Prix to before Spa
Yeah, I forgot that one. Thank you very much.
Yeah, but I didn´t do that to avoid putting 4-5 races in a row in the same area.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:00
by Aerond
Just for you to know; as soon as Wizzie is available he´ll publish the list of chassis and engines for the 2015 season here:
http://f1alternate.wikkii.com/wiki/2015_Formula_1_Rejects_World_Race_Series_Chassis_and_Engine_ListHave in mind that the market is not opened yet and dates are yet to be announced. I will also send every team owner a message with a reminder of the updates already purchased.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:02
by DemocalypseNow
I really hope that market opening happens within the next week, or I'm screwed. I go on holiday next Saturday.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:08
by Aerond
kostas22 wrote:I really hope that market opening happens within the next week, or I'm screwed. I go on holiday next Saturday.
Since there seems to be people coming in and out of holidays it will probably happen in the first week of September.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:13
by Aerond
There´s also a novelty about the chassis ratings I´d like to announce. The "Speed Rating" of the chassis, instead of modifying the overall Output power of the car, it will modify the drivers speed (+/- 100 per each point, which is very closely equal to 10 Bhp in terms of overall performance). This is because this rating was always intended to somehow simulate the quality of the chassis and I´ve come to the conclusion that, since GP2 cornering speed depends almost on drivers grip, it would be better to asign this value to drivers grip.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:25
by DemocalypseNow
Aerond wrote:kostas22 wrote:I really hope that market opening happens within the next week, or I'm screwed. I go on holiday next Saturday.
Since there seems to be people coming in and out of holidays it will probably happen in the first week of September.
Still holidays...and then as soon as I get back, I'm moving home, so...I did say a long time ago this was the case. I know, I'm not asking for special treatment over other people, but my point is, this kind of stuff could have been accounted for in advanced and agreed by the F1RTA and nothing happened. So now it looks like my season might be screwed before it begins. This was bad planning and could have been avoided...
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:33
by Aerond
I don´t know if anybody else is on holiday next week, but the market could definitely open then if everyone else agrees. What I don´t want is wait until mid-september to do this.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:47
by pasta_maldonado
Aerond wrote:I don´t know if anybody else is on holiday next week, but the market could definitely open then if everyone else agrees. What I don´t want is wait until mid-september to do this.
If you can, Aerond, as I know you're very busy, but now seems like an ideal time, as everyone is here at the minute.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 20:53
by Klon
If it's early next week, I would not mind. The second half could be difficult since I am moving, but don't hold anything up for me. I found a few decent packages amongst last year's even with consideration for all those 20 teams having chassis and engines so I personally would not panic if I miss registration by a few days.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 21:19
by Aerond
pasta_maldonado wrote:Aerond wrote:I don´t know if anybody else is on holiday next week, but the market could definitely open then if everyone else agrees. What I don´t want is wait until mid-september to do this.
If you can, Aerond, as I know you're very busy, but now seems like an ideal time, as everyone is here at the minute.
I can´t do it now since I have all the accounting left to do.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 21:22
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:Aerond wrote:I don´t know if anybody else is on holiday next week, but the market could definitely open then if everyone else agrees. What I don´t want is wait until mid-september to do this.
If you can, Aerond, as I know you're very busy, but now seems like an ideal time, as everyone is here at the minute.
I can´t do it now since I have all the accounting left to do.
I've already done calculating all the prize money myself several weeks ago on the premise that I wanted to see where MRT are at and I had nothing better to do. If you want, I can send it over to you and all you have to do is simply double check the numbers are correct and add the remaining bank balance from the end of last year on top.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 21:54
by Aerond
Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:
I can´t do it now since I have all the accounting left to do.
I've already done calculating all the prize money myself several weeks ago on the premise that I wanted to see where MRT are at and I had nothing better to do. If you want, I can send it over to you and all you have to do is simply double check the numbers are correct and add the remaining bank balance from the end of last year on top.
That´s fine with me (I was going to ask for a double check from either you or Andreamoda anyway)
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 21:57
by TomWazzleshaw
Aerond wrote:Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:
I can´t do it now since I have all the accounting left to do.
I've already done calculating all the prize money myself several weeks ago on the premise that I wanted to see where MRT are at and I had nothing better to do. If you want, I can send it over to you and all you have to do is simply double check the numbers are correct and add the remaining bank balance from the end of last year on top.
That´s fine with me (I was going to ask for a double check from either you or Andreamoda anyway)
While you're still online, I have a quick question. Will each chassis still have a maximum power limit like in previous years?
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 22:16
by Aerond
Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:
That´s fine with me (I was going to ask for a double check from either you or Andreamoda anyway)
While you're still online, I have a quick question. Will each chassis still have a maximum power limit like in previous years?
Yes, I already sent you the chassis // engine list.
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 22:17
by AndreaModa
Considering horsepower is capped (at 800bhp I believe) from 2015 onwards, I would imagine so.
If possible Aerond, I'd suggest making a couple of announcements here in the lead up to opening the market, say like 5 days before, followed by another at 3 days, and one 24 hours before, just to keep the thread at the top of the boards and make it as easy as possible for people who don't visit so often (I'm thinking people like DanielPT, SuperAguri, and others) as much of a chance as possible to be aware of the market opening. Having said that, I guess if you're going to message everyone anyway, that will probably be enough, so it's up to you.
In terms of the credit situation, I haven't worked anyone's out. I did have a rough idea of Jones' potential credit amount with a few races to go, but obviously things have changed since then. I might go through and work it out now, if you want me to do additional calculations for other teams too for double checking, then just let me know whenever!
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 22:23
by Phoenix
Aerond wrote:Wizzie wrote:Aerond wrote:
That´s fine with me (I was going to ask for a double check from either you or Andreamoda anyway)
While you're still online, I have a quick question. Will each chassis still have a maximum power limit like in previous years?
Yes, I already sent you the chassis // engine list.
Let me get this straight. Is Wizzie, owner of one of the leading teams, having access to the engine list before anyone else?
Re: F1RWRS -- 2014 - Onwards
Posted: 16 Aug 2012, 22:33
by AndreaModa
He can't pick anything from it, and he only has it to post on the wiki page that has already been linked to further up this page. The list will be available to view by everyone prior to the market actually opening, so everyone will have a chance to plan their choices and options before the market actually opens.
So I wouldn't worry, there's very little advantage he can gain from seeing it now.
EDIT: Also, a question about credits from me Aerond, that is, do I count Melrose's credits from his finishing position, and the ROTRs he won towards my total, even though he won't drive for the team in 2015? Secondly, am I correct in assuming the F2RWRS payments are split in two? So for me running Vantini who finished second last season, I get 125 credits which are split into 63 paid now, and a further 62 paid after the 8th race? Sorry for asking, the wording of the rule on the wiki is a bit odd that's all!
