Unpopular F1 opinions

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 29 Jul 2010, 09:32

coops wrote:The TV cameras would focus in on alot of girly slapping going on from the pit-wall.

... after the aforementioned Toro Rosso, Ferrari and Red Bull end up in the gravel trap, yeah. :mrgreen:

coops · Post by **coops** » 20 Aug 2010, 12:20

Unless he ends up driving for Ferrari this isnt really an unpopular F1 Opinion. However...

Valentino Rossi is a funny looking bugger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdAjYnYfag0

AndreaModa · Post by **AndreaModa** » 20 Aug 2010, 17:55

coops wrote:Unless he ends up driving for Ferrari this isnt really an unpopular F1 Opinion. However...

Valentino Rossi is a funny looking bugger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdAjYnYfag0

Erm, forgive my ignorance but what's a coco pops advert got to do with Rossi? :lol:

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 20 Aug 2010, 20:16

Before 2002, CART required more driving talent than F1 did, but F1 requires greater engineering than any other form of motorsport.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 20 Aug 2010, 22:44

Cynon wrote:Before 2002, CART required more driving talent than F1 did, but F1 requires greater engineering than any other form of motorsport.

That explains why Zanardi did so well there.

coops · Post by **coops** » 23 Aug 2010, 07:17

AndreaModa wrote:Erm, forgive my ignorance but what's a coco pops advert got to do with Rossi?

Rossi is a dead ringer for that coco pops monkey. But if I have to explain it then... :lol:

Yannick · Post by **Yannick** » 17 Jan 2011, 18:07

HWNSNBM used to be to Paul Stoddart what Sakon Yamamoto is to Colin Kolles.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jan 2011, 20:12

Yannick wrote:HWNSNBM used to be to Paul Stoddart what Sakon Yamamoto is to Colin Kolles.

... does this make Yamamoto the anti-HWNSNBM?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 17 Jan 2011, 20:48

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Yannick wrote:HWNSNBM used to be to Paul Stoddart what Sakon Yamamoto is to Colin Kolles.

... does this make Yamamoto the anti-HWNSNBM?

More interestingly, should we tell Paul Stoddart to come back here?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 17 Jan 2011, 22:28

Horray for resurrecting old posts!

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Jacques Villeneuve is a great F1 driver. However, his choice to even go to BAR was stupid. He probably would have had a better career in Minardi.

Flav is an idiot for releasing Jarno Trulli.... in favour of a rusty JV.

Flav ruined Nelson Piquet's Jr's career... he could have actually done something.

Rosberg will never win a race.

Schumacher will never win another race.

Bernie Ecclestone is an idiot.

Max Mosely is an idiot.

Christian Horner is an idiot after not handling the Turkey 2010 situation "well." But he got his ego back after clinching the constructors anyways.

I still hate Christian Horner.

Fernando Alonso needs to be exterminated, as to Colin Kolles needs to go home.

I still think Sebastian Vettel as the clumsy fool.

How did Kimi Raikkonen get a super licence despite not having many racing starts in other leagues before hand?

How did Yuji Ide get a licence at all?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Jan 2011, 22:51

JeremyMcClean wrote:Rosberg will never win a race.

Sadly, I think you might be right here. Rosberg is quite good, but he's like Heidfeld in that I cannot for the life of me think of one performance where he clearly gave 100% and then some.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 17 Jan 2011, 22:59

JeremyMcClean wrote:Flav is an idiot for releasing Jarno Trulli.... in favour of a rusty JV.

How exactly does this count as an unpopular opinion?

watka · Post by **watka** » 17 Jan 2011, 23:07

JeremyMcClean wrote:Jacques Villeneuve is a great F1 driver. However, his choice to even go to BAR was stupid. He probably would have had a better career in Minardi.

Post-1999 at BAR, he actually did quite well. The cars were never podium material but he'd still get a 3rd or 4th every now and then.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 17 Jan 2011, 23:14

The Honda RA107 had a brilliant livery. As did the Winfield Williams. (Being totally serious.)

golic_2004 · Post by **golic_2004** » 17 Jan 2011, 23:17

Americans don't like F1.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 17 Jan 2011, 23:40

the Masked Lapwing wrote:The Honda RA107 had a brilliant livery. As did the Winfield Williams. (Being totally serious.)

The BAR 001 had a better livery than the Honda, but the Winfield is better than the Honda and the BAR.

You're better off with the Lotus 107.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 18 Jan 2011, 22:35

watka wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Jacques Villeneuve is a great F1 driver. However, his choice to even go to BAR was stupid. He probably would have had a better career in Minardi.

Post-1999 at BAR, he actually did quite well. The cars were never podium material but he'd still get a 3rd or 4th every now and then.

He was super quick in 2000, battling for 4th best team along with Benetton. Him and Fisichella were driving the wheels off their cars whilst Zonta and Wurz were tied for DBTMOTY.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 22 Jan 2011, 03:16

I really don't like McLaren all that much.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 22 Jan 2011, 06:20

redbulljack14 wrote:
Cynon wrote:Before 2002, CART required more driving talent than F1 did, but F1 requires greater engineering than any other form of motorsport.

That explains why Zanardi did so well there.

...and Michael Andretti...
...and Mario Andretti...
...and Emerson Fittipaldi...
...and Paul Tracy...
...and Jacques Villeneuve...
...and Jim Clark...

Post-2002, Sebastien Bourdais showed he was an awesome driver, but the problem was that the rest of the field was so bad it really didn't become apparent how good he actually was.

I hate Williams. They're the Dale Junior of F1, lots of annoying fanboys. They're not real racers and I love that they signed Pastor Maldonado. Despite that...

...Rubens Barrichello is the greatest driver to never win a World Championship.

Kamui Kobayashi and Vitaly Petrov are the only two racers in F1, and their talent is being wasted in F1, when they should be in a racer's league -- like the IRL.

F1 needs crappier drivers in order to have better racing.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 22 Jan 2011, 10:09

Cynon wrote:...Rubens Barrichello is the greatest driver to never win a World Championship.

I would say that that title belongs to Stirling Moss. Rubens is quite good, but I believe he has a relatively minor case of Fisichellaitits which prevents him from showing his full potential in a top car.

watka · Post by **watka** » 22 Jan 2011, 22:07

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Cynon wrote:...Rubens Barrichello is the greatest driver to never win a World Championship.

I would say that that title belongs to Stirling Moss. Rubens is quite good, but I believe he has a relatively minor case of Fisichellaitits which prevents him from showing his full potential in a top car.

I think that was confirmed at Brawn last year.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 22 Jan 2011, 22:46

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Cynon wrote:...Rubens Barrichello is the greatest driver to never win a World Championship.

I would say that that title belongs to Stirling Moss. Rubens is quite good, but I believe he has a relatively minor case of Fisichellaitits which prevents him from showing his full potential in a top car.

I'd also rank Gerhard Berger above Rubens Barrichello in greatest drivers never to win the title.

James1978 · Post by **James1978** » 23 Jan 2011, 18:01

I'd concur with that - Berger was actually the only-non champion to win a race in 1986, 87 or 88!!! Oh and 1994 too!

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 23 Jan 2011, 19:28

redbulljack14 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Cynon wrote:...Rubens Barrichello is the greatest driver to never win a World Championship.

I would say that that title belongs to Stirling Moss. Rubens is quite good, but I believe he has a relatively minor case of Fisichellaitits which prevents him from showing his full potential in a top car.

I'd also rank Gerhard Berger above Rubens Barrichello in greatest drivers never to win the title.

Carlos Reutemann, Gilles Villeneuve, and Ronnie Peterson, would be good contenders too.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 24 Jan 2011, 10:46

DOSBoot wrote:Carlos Reutemann, Gilles Villeneuve, and Ronnie Peterson, would be good contenders too.

I would add Rene Arnoux, Jacky Ickx and François Cevert. And be bold (and unpopular) by also adding Ralf Schumacher!

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 25 Jan 2011, 09:32

DOSBoot wrote:Carlos Reutemann, Gilles Villeneuve, and Ronnie Peterson, would be good contenders too.

Stefan Bellof

That is all.

DOSBoot · Post by **DOSBoot** » 25 Jan 2011, 11:43

DanielPT wrote:
DOSBoot wrote:Carlos Reutemann, Gilles Villeneuve, and Ronnie Peterson, would be good contenders too.

I would add Rene Arnoux, Jacky Ickx and François Cevert. And be bold (and unpopular) by also adding Ralf Schumacher!

Then I guess Didier Pironi should be added to.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 25 Jan 2011, 16:31

JeremyMcClean wrote:I really don't like McLaren all that much.

I don't particularly care for them either. I like Jenson Button, but that's about it at McLaren, and when Kimi and JPM were teammates.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jan 2011, 16:42

Nick Heidfeld is the most underrated F1 driver of recent times.

Cynon · Post by **Cynon** » 25 Jan 2011, 17:41

DanielPT wrote:Adrian Sutil is the most overrated F1 driver of recent times.

Fixed.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 25 Jan 2011, 19:11

DanielPT wrote:Nick Heidfeld is the second most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Timo Glock is the most underrated F1 driver of recent times.

Fixed

ADx_Wales · Post by **ADx_Wales** » 25 Jan 2011, 21:13

Slow and Steady wins the race? Sorry, but do you realise where you are?

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:15

Slow? Are you saying Kubica is slow? He was beaten by Heidfeld in their second year!

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:18

DanielPT wrote:Slow? Are you saying Kubica is slow? He was beaten by Heidfeld in their second year!

It was only 2008 where he wasn't beaten by Heidfeld.

DanielPT · Post by **DanielPT** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:33

redbulljack14 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:Slow? Are you saying Kubica is slow? He was beaten by Heidfeld in their second year!

It was only 2008 where he wasn't beaten by Heidfeld.

You are correct. I did meant to say that

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Klon · Post by **Klon** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:39

redbulljack14 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:Timo Glock is the third most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Nick Heidfeld is the second most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Ralf Schumacher is the most underrated F1 driver of recent times.

Megafixed
What is it with Germans being underrated? I mean we are overrated in everything else, really...

Jeroen Krautmeir · Post by **Jeroen Krautmeir** » 25 Jan 2011, 22:49

Klon wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
DanielPT wrote:Timo Glock is the fourth most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Nick Heidfeld is the third most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Ralf Schumacher is the second most underrated F1 driver of recent times.
Markus Winkelhock is the most underrated F1 driver of recent times.

Mega-mega fixed.

Yes, we Germans have an awful lot of underrated guys.

FullMetalJack · Post by **FullMetalJack** » 25 Jan 2011, 23:07

In all fairness, Nico Rosberg's 2009 performances were also underrated, I think he was only about 6th on the review on this site, I would have ranked him at least 3rd.

JohnMLTX · Post by **JohnMLTX** » 26 Jan 2011, 03:11

Bourdais would've kicked ass and taken names if he had been in formula 1 this year.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 26 Jan 2011, 03:17

JohnMLTX wrote:Bourdais would've kicked ass and taken names if he had been in formula 1 this year.

But he wasn't. So he didn't.

Toro Rosso really is a reputation destoryer isn't it?