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Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 01:52
by UncreativeUsername37
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:While it's a roundabout, it's actually quite a big one - its perimeter is about 300m. Compare that to most of the ones you see on suburban streets, which usually have a perimeter of less than ten metres.
Still a bad idea though - there's really only one entrance and exit to a roundabout when you're racing. Any attempt at an overtake will be... messy.
No one complains about the Grand Hotel hairpin....
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 25 Sep 2012, 21:17
by Salamander
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Captain Hammer wrote:While it's a roundabout, it's actually quite a big one - its perimeter is about 300m. Compare that to most of the ones you see on suburban streets, which usually have a perimeter of less than ten metres.
Still a bad idea though - there's really only one entrance and exit to a roundabout when you're racing. Any attempt at an overtake will be... messy.
No one complains about the Grand Hotel hairpin....
Yeah, but the entrance to that isn't as pronounced as most other roundabouts.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 00:09
by TomWazzleshaw
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:UgncreativeUsergname wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Still a bad idea though - there's really only one entrance and exit to a roundabout when you're racing. Any attempt at an overtake will be... messy.
No one complains about the Grand Hotel hairpin....
Yeah, but the entrance to that isn't as pronounced as most other roundabouts.
Ste Devote used to be a small roundabout before it got paved over during the track renovations and most of the drivers managed to get around there fine... most of the time.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 06:45
by Captain Hammer
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 26 Sep 2012, 11:36
by RonDenisDeletraz
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 27 Sep 2012, 00:45
by Captain Hammer
It's certainly not a bad idea. You've cleary identified roads that have potential; now it's just a case of making the bits that connect them together interesting. Here's a few, straight off the top of my head, that I think would work in Durban:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5683098http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5683103http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5683104And that's just off the top of my head.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 18:48
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 29 Sep 2012, 20:47
by dr-baker
They are all shorter than Monaco! They'll never happen...
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 01:22
by UncreativeUsername37
dr-baker wrote:They are all shorter than Monaco! They'll never happen...
Here, I made a circuit around Downtown Disney that fulfills the FIA's 3.5km minimum:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5687109
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 30 Sep 2012, 10:12
by RonDenisDeletraz
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 05:17
by Captain Hammer
Bernie will inevitably lose his patience with Melbourne, and take away the Australian Grand Prix. And because Barry O'Farrell is only capable of making policy based on doing exactly the opposite of what works or is a good idea, Sydney will get the Grand Prix. With that in mind, here is a proposed route that is expensive, unrealistic, too long, and inconveniences most of the eastern suburbs:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5688708
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 01 Oct 2012, 13:15
by roblo97
Captain Hammer wrote:Bernie will inevitably lose his patience with Melbourne, and take away the Australian Grand Prix. And because Barry O'Farrell is only capable of making policy based on doing exactly the opposite of what works or is a good idea, Sydney will get the Grand Prix. With that in mind, here is a proposed route that is expensive, unrealistic, too long, and inconveniences most of the eastern suburbs:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5688708
or if bernie wants a grand prix in an olympic park he can have this
http://gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5662516or if bernie gets a bit irate with yeongam
http://gmap-pedometer.com?r=5688947if bernie wants london the he can have it
http://gmap-pedometer.com?r=5688962if he thinks montreal is a bit cramped
http://gmap-pedometer.com?r=5689018
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 06:18
by Captain Hammer
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 15:50
by DOSBoot
The Seattle Circuit from the Gran Turismo games. Unfortunately, a parking garage now exists where the chicane by the Seahawks statium is. So I compensated by putting a chicane just after it.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5690501
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 18:45
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 02 Oct 2012, 21:13
by nome66
my idea for an IndyCar race at the new Meadowlands
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 03 Oct 2012, 04:33
by Captain Hammer
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 03 Oct 2012, 05:00
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 03 Oct 2012, 06:11
by Captain Hammer
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 03 Oct 2012, 11:52
by roblo97
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 03 Oct 2012, 12:18
by nome66
i've created a fad, i see
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 05 Oct 2012, 16:49
by roblo97
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 05 Oct 2012, 17:09
by Salamander
I'm sorry, but there's no possible track layout that can top that. None.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 05 Oct 2012, 20:30
by roblo97
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I'm sorry, but there's no possible track layout that can top that. None.
You mean top the a1 ring because what I did is use as much of the original track as possible and make it how Prost wanted it just a bit wider with some more run off space
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 05 Oct 2012, 20:55
by Salamander
roblomas52 wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:I'm sorry, but there's no possible track layout that can top that. None.
You mean top the a1 ring because what I did is use as much of the original track as possible and make it how Prost wanted it just a bit wider with some more run off space
Yeah, I'm saying the A1-Ring has the Osterreichring beat, hands down.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 17:02
by roblo97
UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Using basically every road in the entire country to satisfy the FIA's 3.5-km requirement, I made a very rejectful track for a
Grand Prix of Vatican City.
my one is slightly longer but just as rejectful
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com?r=5695556
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 17:53
by roblo97
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Yeah, I'm saying the A1-Ring has the Osterreichring beat, hands down.
1 word for you BOSCHKURVE
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 18:40
by Salamander
roblomas52 wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Yeah, I'm saying the A1-Ring has the Osterreichring beat, hands down.
1 word for you BOSCHKURVE
Meh, I'd rather have the Remus Kurve. And the Gosser Kurve. And the Castrol Kurve.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 21:16
by roblo97
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:roblomas52 wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Yeah, I'm saying the A1-Ring has the Osterreichring beat, hands down.
1 word for you BOSCHKURVE
Meh, I'd rather have the Remus Kurve. And the Gosser Kurve. And the Castrol Kurve.
The osterreichring was renound for being a fast flowing track and the turbo cars took the SLOWEST corners in 4th gear + Alan prost said that all tracks should be changed but the osterreichring should not just add run off + in 1986 the cars were approaching boschkurve at 200 mph need I say more
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 22:26
by Salamander
roblomas52 wrote:The osterreichring was renound for being a fast flowing track and the turbo cars took the SLOWEST corners in 4th gear + Alan prost said that all tracks should be changed but the osterreichring should not just add run off + in 1986 the cars were approaching boschkurve at 200 mph need I say more
So what? The old 8 mile Spa circuit was fast and flowing, but I'd take the modern version any day. Same thing here.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 06 Oct 2012, 23:07
by Captain Hammer
Australia's answer to Silverstone -
RAAF Richmond:
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5695975
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 05:38
by Captain Hammer
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:08
by roblo97
knockhill park scotland finest circuit
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5703322the 1st of 2 tracks arround my home town
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5703217the 2nd of the 2
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5703230may have to remove the pack lane speed humps which the cars would never make it over
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 15:58
by roblo97
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 20:16
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 20:27
by UncreativeUsername37
I chopped off the power circuity part and made the Wallop Drive chicane slightly different, what do you think?
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=5709786
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 20:41
by roblo97
Very good the main part of the circuit is old beggarwood lane because it is Basingstokes answer to the esses at suzuka. I actually live in a different part of Basingstoke which is possibly the most rejectful town in Britain
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 20:54
by Londoner
roblomas52 wrote:Very good the main part of the circuit is old beggarwood lane because it is Basingstokes answer to the esses at suzuka. I actually live in a different part of Basingstoke which is possibly the
most rejectful town in Britain
My location says otherwise. Lowestoft has about 50,000 sets of traffic lights, a harbour bridge that goes up at least 10 times a day on the main road through town, no music shops and the place is chock-a-block full of chavs. A relief road was built through the southern part of town a couple of years back, and they routed it to the EXACT same point where the old main road reached the harbour bridge. Now there's always massive traffic jams.
It would make for a ridiculously hilarious circuit mind you.
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:23
by UncreativeUsername37
East Londoner wrote:My location says otherwise. Lowestoft has about 50,000 sets of traffic lights, a harbour bridge that goes up at least 10 times a day on the main road through town, no music shops and the place is chock-a-block full of chavs. A relief road was built through the southern part of town a couple of years back, and they routed it to the EXACT same point where the old main road reached the harbour bridge. Now there's always massive traffic jams.
It would make for a ridiculously hilarious circuit mind you.
Here you go!
Re: Reject (or not) track design.
Posted: 17 Oct 2012, 21:39
by Londoner
That's brilliant!
Two level crossings on that circuit. I think the only 'circuit' to cross railway lines was the Oporto track used for the first few Portguese Grands Prix in the late 1950s, but I could be wrong...