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Re: 1980 rFAF1 - THREAD UPDATED, PLEASE CHECK IN!
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 14:05
by pasta_maldonado
takagi_for_the_win wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:JeremyMcClean wrote:Not sure what test I'm going in but getting a large body drag upgrade will do fine
Ferrari already applied for an upgrade, before Christmas.
Alfa, McLaren, Renault, JLD, Ligier, Merzario, Ferrari, Shadow, Brabham, Restov, Osella, Tyrrell, Audi, RAM, Rebaque, Williams, Ensign, Lotus, and Wolf have upgraded.
Oh, and I'm taking Arrows away from Pamphlet, he hasn't showed up in ages. Arrows is available for anyone to take over, or one of the fictional or smaller teams can merge with Arrows.
If thats the case, can Patrese test with Restov as well then?
Yes, he can test, but who he drives for is down to the new owner of Arrows
Pycku - I've seen your bid, I'll wait just a little longer to see if anyone else in interested. Not because I don't want you to have the team, because the announcmeent's only been up for 15 minutes and I want to make this fair for everyone
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - THREAD UPDATED, PLEASE CHECK IN!
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 14:09
by Londoner
Yeah, Wolf will be testing alongside RAM. Davey Clarke and Bruno Giacomelli will be there.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - THREAD UPDATED, PLEASE CHECK IN!
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 21:06
by pasta_maldonado
Congratulations, pycku - you are the new owner of Arrows!
Team name: Warseteiner Arrows Racing (GBR)
Chassis : Arrows A2B
Engine: Ford Cosworth - Normally-Aspirated.
Drivers: Keiran Sutherland (GBR) - Results: AUS: 9th RSA:DNQ BRA: 9th
Riccardo Patrese (ITA) - Results: AUS: Ret RSA:Ret BRA:DNQ
Keiran Sutherland is fictional, and was managed by Pamphlet, but seen as he has left the forums, he is up for anyone to take on. You can negiotiate with any of the manufacturers to see if they will give you engines, or you can stick with the DFVs.
Politics are a part of rFAF1. There are 4 groups you can apply to join.
Association des Constructeurs de Formule Une (ACF) (Ligier , Osella, Renault, Williams, JLD, Restov Racing and McLaren)
Union of Independent Teams (UIT) (RAM, Ensign)
Constructor's Assembly (CA) (Tyrrell, Brabham) NOT if member of ACF or UIT.
Sit on the Fence Association (SOFA) (Merzario, Shadow)
Ford - AdrianSutil
Lamborghini - Stramala
TAG (Porsche and Audi) - JJMonty/Wizzie
Honda - Phoenix
Hart - This
Ferrari - JeremyMcLean
Alfa Romeo - Klon
Renault - BlindCaveSalamanader
Talbot - shinjiPaul Ricard Test - Teams Present: Brabham (1 day)1. Nelson Piquet (BRA) 1:42.114 +00:00.000
2. Larry Perkins (AUS) 1:42.324 +00:00.210
Osterreichring Test - Teams Present: Audi (1 day)1. Jochen Mass (GER) 1:33.490 67 Laps
Mass only managed 67 laps, when his engine failed. The team couldn't repair it in time before sunset.
The rest of the tests will follow soon.
Remember, if you haven't organised a test, you can, but remember it is one test per 3 races. If you test now you will not be allowed to test for 3 races. If you would like to test, please look at the test schedule a few posts above, and see if you would like to test with any other teams. Be warned - there are restrictions to some tests imposed by the teams!Autosport wrote:TURBOS TO BE BANNED?
FISA, F1's governing body, have announced that turbo engines may be banned for 1981. FISA president, Jean-Luc Knight, has descrived them as 'dangerous and ridiculous', with plans to return to a normally-aspirated only formula allegedly already drawn up behind the scenes
It is up to the political organisations to now stand up to FISA to protect their interests of their member teams.
I told you there'd be ploitics, didn't I? Oh yeeah
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 21:58
by pycku
I'll take Sutherland as manager, if it is allowed. I'm not firing anyone at the moment, so both drivers will stay.
As for upgrades and test: We'd like small top speed and small mass reduction ones, which we would like to test if there's any test left with other teams.
As for organisations - I'm not quite sure whats the point and advantages to participate in any, yet, so we will stay out of them for the moment.
As for Engines - DFV is not bad at all for 1980, but we are looking for a turbo charged one in 1981, any offers? (in case turbo engines remain)
PS What an irony, I'm managing Arrows in pi's series, too 
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 22:25
by Salamander
Renault welcomes the new management of Arrows into the sport, and would like to offer a deal to run their popular turbo engines, which just happen to be powering 2 of the 3 leading teams at the moment. We would be prepared to supply engines as soon as the midway point of this season, and will offer a 10% discount and Renault endorsement if Arrows applies to join the ACF.
This 10% discount and Renault endorsement will also apply to any Renault-powered team seeking to join the ACF, or who is already a part of the organisation.
Speaking of turbos...
Autosport wrote:Sage hits back at turbo ban
Following FISA's announcment that a ban for turbos may take hold for 1981, Renault team boss Jean Sage has hit out at the proposed ban, deeming it 'catastrophic for Formula 1', as well as citing the number of engine suppliers that have begun developing turbo engines over the last year.
"This is absolutely unacceptable. FISA cannot just take such unilateral action without consulting the teams first. A ban on turbos would be catastrophic for Formula 1 - just look at all the turbo programs that have been established in the last year, since the concept of a turbocharged F1 car was pioneered by Renault. Honda, Ferrari, Lamborghini, TAG, Ford, even Hart. That is a lot of money that will be completely wasted for most of these firms - it may even bankrupt Hart. Some of the newcomers may even leave as a result. Not to mention, Formula 1 is, or at least, is supposed to be, the pinnacle of motorsport. How can we claim that is the case when we have several companies working to make major developments in turbo technology, and just as it begins to take off, FISA slam their fist down and say no? I cannot stress enough how ridiculous this is. Monsieur Knight claims that turbos are dangerous and ridicuous, but I see no evidence of this. Certainly, they allow the cars to go faster, but injuries and deaths were always a threat, I do not see how turbos enlarge these risks significantly enough to warrant a ban. While I personally would like to see Renault as a part of Formula 1 for as long as possible, and will fight to make this the case, I am afraid that if this ban goes through, we will have to re-evaluate our position, both as a constructor and engine supplier, in Formula 1."
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 22:50
by RonDenisDeletraz
I would like to join the Sit on the Fence Association as I couldn't give a crap about all these team unions
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 22:54
by Nessafox
UIT thinks Turbo engines aren't the problem, but the companies that produce them. We should ban works engines! Engines should be available in equal cost and equal quality to all teams.
Arrows are welcome to run Hart engines from 1981 on, this will give Hart more chances to develop their engine. We hope Arrows will not sell their soul to the big wallets of the ACF.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:00
by takagi_for_the_win
This wrote:... We hope Arrows will not sell their soul to the big wallets of the ACF.
Given that one of the first members of the ACF happens to be the newest team in F1, resorting to running year-old machinery, thats a bit harsh.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:03
by pycku
As manager of Arrows, I already announced I'll not change anything, at least not for the first races. Which definitely mean I'm not switching to other engine manufacturer this season (this will cost us money, too). But, if turbo engines remain for 1981, we definitely will use this option. We really agree with Hart opinion, that all teams must have equal clauses in their contracts with engine suppliers, but it is politics after all.
Actually, can someone tell me what is our budget that we can spend?
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:07
by pasta_maldonado
pycku wrote:As manager of Arrows, I already announced I'll not change anything, at least not for the first races. Which definitely mean I'm not switching to other engine manufacturer this season (this will cost us money, too). But, if turbo engines remain for 1981, we definitely will use this option. We really agree with Hart opinion, that all teams must have equal clauses in their contracts with engine suppliers, but it is politics after all.
Actually, can someone tell me what is our budget that we can spend?
There is no money system in this championship
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:17
by Aerospeed
pasta_maldonado wrote:pycku wrote:As manager of Arrows, I already announced I'll not change anything, at least not for the first races. Which definitely mean I'm not switching to other engine manufacturer this season (this will cost us money, too). But, if turbo engines remain for 1981, we definitely will use this option. We really agree with Hart opinion, that all teams must have equal clauses in their contracts with engine suppliers, but it is politics after all.
Actually, can someone tell me what is our budget that we can spend?
There is no money system in this championship
Which is good, because I'd be royally screwed if there was.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 19 Jan 2013, 23:30
by Nessafox
takagi_for_the_win wrote:This wrote:... We hope Arrows will not sell their soul to the big wallets of the ACF.
Given that one of the first members of the ACF happens to be the newest team in F1, resorting to running year-old machinery, thats a bit harsh.
I have a political task here. And that is protecting the communi... i mean independent teams, by randomly blaming big teams of various things, just in the hope that it turns out to be true! (sounds like politics!)
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 00:39
by shinji
Ligier, on behalf of the ACF, would first of all like to support Edward Restov in his spirited defence of our organisation against the simply untrue allegations, which have sadly been thrown at us since our foundation, that ACF serves only to benefit wealthy manufacturer-based teams. This is, as we have explained before, simply and blatantly untrue, and we resent the false connotations unfortunately attached to the union.
Secondly, we would like to put forward a potential ACF policy on the proposed legislation on turbo engines (obviously the official line will only be taken with the support of a majority of teams within the ACF, put to a democratic vote).
Proposed ACF policy on turbos
We believe that the relentless pursuit of engineering progress is one of the foremost component parts of Grand Prix racing, certainly from the point of view of the teams, which we, obviously, are primarily concerned with. Currently in F1 we are blessed to have in our midst some of the greatest minds in engineering, and we see no reason to stifle them through the overuse of legislation. That is why we are strongly against the possibly banning of turbo engines recently put forward by FISA through their president, Mr. Luc-Knight.
While we agree that safety must be a concern in every facet of Formula One, it is our belief that there is no substantial evidence to show that turbos make a can any more dangerous than a more traditional, normally aspirated car. Furthermore, ACF believe that banning turbos would be a 'slippery slope'; it starts with something which may seem relatively benign like banning a certain type of engine, but it is perfectly plausible for FISA to extend such powers to introduce a series devoid of creativity, inspiration and engineering genius. ACF would like to avoid such an outcome, and we would encourage non-member teams to support us in this issue.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests online (almost), FISA ANNOUNCEMENT
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 11:10
by pasta_maldonado
Paul Ricard Test - Teams Present: Ligier, Renault, McLaren, Restov, JLD (ACF Only) (1 day)Code: Select all
1. Jacques Laffite Ligier-Talbot 1:42.104 +00:00.000
2. Edward Kevin Ligier-Talbot 1:42.110 +00:00.005
3. Carlos Reutemann Renault 1:43.386 +00:01.282
4. Jean-Pierre Jabouille Renault 1:43.498 +00:01.393
5. Riccardo Patrese Restov-Lada 1:43.630 +00:01.526
6. Guilliame Gauthier McLaren-Ford 1:43.787 +00:01.683
7. Gianfranco Brancatelli Restov-Lada 1:43.943 +00:01.839
8. Derek Daly McLaren-Ford 1:44.656 +00:02.552
9. Michael Bleekemolen JLD-Porsche 1:44.791 +00:02.687
10. Rupert Keegan JLD-Porsche 1:45.036 +00:02.932
11. Derek Warwick McLaren-Ford 1:45.052 +00:02.948
12. Valentino Nicchi Restov-Lada 1:45.105 +00:03.001
13. Pierre Depault JLD-Porsche 1:45.314 +00:03.210
14. Beppe Gabbiani Restov-Lada 1:45.639 +00:03.535
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests updated
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 12:54
by pasta_maldonado
Monza Test - Teams Present: Merzario, Ferrari (1 day)
1. Emerson Fittipaldi (Merzario-Lamborghini) 1:38.240 +00:00.000
2. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 1:38.606 +00:00.366
3. Mario Andretti (Merzario-Lamborghini) 1:38.710 +00:00.470
3. Keke Rosberg (Ferrari) 1:39.208 +00:00.968
4. Simone Guidetti (Merzario-Lamborghini) 1:39.365 +00:01.125
5. Rene Arnoux (Ferrari) 1:39.760 +00:01.520
All teams used turbocharged engines
Brands Hatch Test - Teams Present: RAM-Hart, Wolf (1day)
1. Jan Lammers (RAM-Hart) 1:18.636 +00:00.000
2. Davey Clarke (Wolf-Renault) 1:18.725 +00:00.089
3. Nigel Mansell (RAM-Hart) 1:19.035 +00:00.399
4. Bruno Giacomelli (Wolf-Renault) 1:19.577 +00:00.941
That concludes all outstanding tests, if you still want to test please confirm so now.
The 1980 Belgian Grand Prix will take place on Friday 25th January, 8:30 GMT. If you want to make a driver change, please announce it before Thursday. This, are RAM going to be running Hart engines?
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests updated
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 15:58
by pycku
pasta_maldonado wrote:
That concludes all outstanding tests, if you still want to test please confirm so now.
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I said Arrows are to test their upgrades, hopefully with other teams. So we wish to test, too
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests updated
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 16:10
by pasta_maldonado
pycku wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:
That concludes all outstanding tests, if you still want to test please confirm so now.
]
I said Arrows are to test their upgrades, hopefully with other teams. So we wish to test, too
At the moment, Arrows haven't applied for upgrades.
Here are the upgrade areas:
Increase engine torque
Increase engine top speed
Increase engine reliability
Decrease the random element of reliability (May make your car more or less likely to retire. It's a gamble)
Decrease chassis mass
Decrease overall body drag
Increase front wing downforce
Decrease front wing drag
Increase rear wing downforce
Decrease rear wing drag
You can ask for a large upgrade in any area - but it is the least likely to be successful.
You can ask for a medium upgrade in any area - roughly middle ground in terms of successfulness.
You can ask for a small upgrade in any area - most likely to be successful.
But be warned - thee is a chance there may be a detrimental effect to your car! For each upgrade, there's a 5% chance it will make your car worse.
As for testing, if you would like to test, please say what track you would like to test at and what drivers will be driving.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - ACF, Monza, and Brands tests up
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 16:15
by FMecha
Tyrrell, on behalf of Constructors' Assembly, will vote AGAINST any turbo bans for time being. It is way too early for now.
Says the guy who owns the team that, in real life, doesn't like turbos...pycku, if you want to drop Sutherland, I offer you American driver
Paul Anderson, father of F2RWRS driver Dave.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Tests updated
Posted: 20 Jan 2013, 19:11
by Nessafox
pasta_maldonado wrote:
The 1980 Belgian Grand Prix will take place on Friday 25th January, 8:30 GMT. If you want to make a driver change, please announce it before Thursday. This, are RAM going to be running Hart engines?
Hart-engines are going to debut on the British GP
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - ACF, Monza, and Brands tests up
Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 07:58
by pycku
We would like small mass reduction and small top speed upgrade which are to be tested at Brands Hatch. Both our drivers will be involved in the process.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - ACF, Monza, and Brands tests up
Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 15:50
by pasta_maldonado
pycku wrote:We would like small mass reduction and small top speed upgrade which are to be tested at Brands Hatch. Both our drivers will be involved in the process.
Only one upgrade is allowed every three races
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - ACF, Monza, and Brands tests up
Posted: 21 Jan 2013, 15:59
by pycku
pasta_maldonado wrote:pycku wrote:We would like small mass reduction and small top speed upgrade which are to be tested at Brands Hatch. Both our drivers will be involved in the process.
Only one upgrade is allowed every three races
Sorry, then medium mass reduction for Arrows
Test program stays the same.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - ACF, Monza, and Brands tests up
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 07:36
by pasta_maldonado
pycku wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:pycku wrote:We would like small mass reduction and small top speed upgrade which are to be tested at Brands Hatch. Both our drivers will be involved in the process.
Only one upgrade is allowed every three races
Sorry, then medium mass reduction for Arrows
Test program stays the same.
I'll get round to that this evening.
Remember, race tonight at 8:00 UTC!
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 10:14
by RonDenisDeletraz
How long will the race take? because I might be able to get to the second half
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 10:41
by Aerond
Cool; this and then Macau Pre-Qualifying
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 11:43
by Phoenix
Williams, by the way, is frontally opposed to the turbo engines ban proposal.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 12:53
by pycku
On the other hand, is there an organization of engine manufacturers? If yes, it would be interesting to see what is their opinion.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 13:34
by DemocalypseNow
I think you can assume that, if they have any influence in the decision, Lamborgini votes in favour of a turbo ban. That way they can run their V12 engine competitively...
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 16:17
by pasta_maldonado
eurobrun wrote:How long will the race take? because I might be able to get to the second half
42 lap race with each lap taking roughly 2 minutes and 17 seconds means it probably will be a good hour and a half
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 19:23
by pasta_maldonado
0-5 - Oops
6-55 - Exactly what you was looking for
56-100 - No change
67!- Unfortunately, Arrows didn't get that upgrade
Brands Harch test - Teams Present:Arrows (One day)
1. Riccardo Patrese 1:21.000 +00:00.000
2. Kieran Sutherland 1:21.541. +00:00.541
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa Race 8:00 UTC
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 19:54
by pasta_maldonado
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 20:06
by Aerond
The link is broken
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 20:13
by DemocalypseNow
Aerond wrote:The link is broken
The chatroom hashtag is #1980. I'm sure you can figure out what to do. Because I have no idea how to copy across a valid link from mibbit...
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 20:16
by pycku
erm, i'm new here, so i dont know what do to
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 20:17
by DemocalypseNow
pycku wrote:erm, i'm new here, so i dont know what do to
http://client01.chat.mibbit.com/Type in a nickname and put #1980 in the channel id field.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 21:40
by Gerudo Dragon
Belgian GP Commentary:
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20:31 pycku just as i opened that beer
20:31 salamander well that sucks
20:32 pycku at least it was not his fault
20:32 pycku but the engine
20:32 YourHostPasta Brancatelli's rejoined, 57 seconds down, but Lammers couldn't get going again
20:32 YourHostPasta He was involved in the Lauuda/Perkins crash
20:32 Valentino_Nicchi i know this is off topic but which version of donington is better the national version with the chicane or the GP version with the hairpin??
20:32 YourHostPasta And we're left with 23 runners, the last of which is Rupert Keegan
20:33 salamander depends on your tastes really
20:33 YourHostPasta Who's pitted to replace his front wing, and rejoins in last place
20:33 salamander personally i prefer the gp version
20:33 YourHostPasta Andretti still th
20:33 Stramala depends what cars are in said race
20:33 Stramala if you are talking about Prost GP I'd stick it on the GP circuit
20:33 YourHostPasta Fittipaldi's 15th and behind Henotn's Shadow
20:34 Stramala the national is cool for touring cars
20:34 YourHostPasta But is passed by Villeneuve's Ferrair into La Source
20:34 salamander how's gauthier doing?
20:34 YourHostPasta Out front, Jody Scheckter -----00.521------->Alan Jones
20:35 YourHostPasta gauthier's worked his way up to 11th
20:35 pycku which lap is it?
20:35 pycku 3rd?
20:35 YourHostPasta And closing on Arnoux's lacklustre Ferrari in 10th
20:35 YourHostPasta Lap 4 now
20:35 salamander excellent
20:35 salamander where'd he start?
20:35 YourHostPasta Scheckter's maintaining the gap out front
20:36 YourHostPasta Gauthier started 18th, IIRC
20:36 RupertKeegan Well, at least I'm still running
20:36 YourHostPasta Piquet in 3rd's 5 seocnds back, with harvey Jones 4th
20:36 Valentino_Nicchi pasta i just tried changing the max no. of laps qualifiers can do in the .gdb and it worked, thanks
20:36 YourHostPasta Kevin and Jabouille side by side!
20:37 YourHostPasta kevin takes the place to move up to 6th!
20:37 salamander let's go jabouille!
20:37 salamander oh goddammit
20:37 YourHostPasta Jabouille is under attack from Andretti and McAllister now
20:37 YourHostPasta Andretti's doing a superb job of holding off the fiesty McAllister, last year's winner
20:38 YourHostPasta Harvey Jones, championship leader, closes on Piquet
20:38 salamander doesn't seem like that upgrade did much good... is reutemann going anywhere?
20:38 YourHostPasta MCALLISTER'S STOPPED!
20:38 YourHostPasta ENGINE FAILURE!
20:38 salamander damn
20:38 YourHostPasta Andretti passes Jabouille!
20:38 YourHostPasta Wham, bam!
20:39 salamander those honda engines are even more fragile than the renaults
20:39 Stramala yeahh
20:39 salamander FFFFUUU
20:39 YourHostPasta Jabouille's coming back...
20:39 YourHostPasta But Andretti shutss the door
20:39 pycku where is Sutherland?
20:39 YourHostPasta Nigel Mansell is the last man out on track, with smoke beginning to seep out from under the engine cover
20:40 YourHostPasta And he stops on the run down to La Source
20:40 YourHostPasta Reutemann is 14th, Sutherland is 19th
20:40 pycku thanks
20:41 salamander well at least reutemann's doing stuff
20:41 YourHostPasta Out front, Jones has halved the gap to Scheckter
20:41 YourHostPasta Alan, that is
20:41 YourHostPasta Harvey's still stuck behind Piquet
20:41 Valentino_Nicchi scheckter will be getting worried after his teammate's engine blowup
20:41 YourHostPasta Oh, and Keegan is now last, in 21st position and 1:44 behind Jody
20:42 YourHostPasta I'd be getting worried in that Williams
20:43 YourHostPasta But still, Alan can't get close enough to Sccheckter
20:43 YourHostPasta Reutemann is busy fending off Villeneuve
20:43 RupertKeegan Still in the race, that's good
20:44 YourHostPasta The race has begun to settle down now, 8 laps gone
20:44 pycku so now it is up to strategies and reliability
20:44 YourHostPasta Scheckter leads, half a second ahead of Alan
20:44 YourHostPasta Piquet's 3rd, 7 seconds back, with Harvey a seocnd back
20:45 YourHostPasta Laffie 5th, Kevin 6th, Andretti 7th, Jabouille 8th
20:45 YourHostPasta Arnoux 9th, Gauthier 10th, Gabbiani 11th, Henton 12th
20:46 YourHostPasta Surer 13th, Reutemann 14th, Villeneuve 15th, Daly 16th, Fittipaldi 17th, Takagi 18th
20:46 YourHostPasta Sutherland 19th, Brancatelli 20th, Keegan 21st
20:47 YourHostPasta The rain clouds aren't out today, but I've discovered a system where rain is incorporated into rFactor
20:47 Valentino_Nicchi part of me is hoping that one of the restov boys does something incredibly dumb again so that nicchi can get another chance
20:47 YourHostPasta The British GP at Donington is likely to be rainy.
20:48 YourHostPasta Keegan is 2 minutes down now, the boys up front will be lapping him soon
20:48 pycku as we bulgarians say: at least he is in the sex
20:49 Valentino_Nicchi pasta can you give me a link to this rain plugin?? it sounds interesting
20:49 RupertKeegan I don't care, to be honest, I'm going to the Penthouse just afterwards anyway
20:51 YourHostPasta Scheckter can see Keegan now
20:51 YourHostPasta This lap or next lap, and it will spice things up
20:51 YourHostPasta Valentino_Nicchi, search google for RFE weather plugin. It's very complicated, it requires track and mod optimisation. Its not plug in and play
20:51 YourHostPasta Right, Scheckter's behind Keegan
20:51 YourHostPasta BUT HE'S SLOWING!!!!!
20:51 YourHostPasta OH DEAR!!!
20:51 YourHostPasta HIS GEARBOX HAS JAMMED!
20:51 YourHostPasta HES STUCK IN 3RD!
20:51 YourHostPasta HE PULLS INTO THE PITS AND RETIRES!
20:51 YourHostPasta This has changed the facce of the race
20:53 RupertKeegan You're not lapping me yet, leaders!
20:53 YourHostPasta Daly's McLaren has also stopped
20:53 YourHostPasta Alan laps Keegan
20:53 YourHostPasta Alan Jones leads Piquet by 4 seconds, from Harvey Jones
20:53 YourHostPasta This promotes Andretti to 6th, and some points!
20:53 YourHostPasta But Jabouille is within Villeneuve striking distance
20:53 YourHostPasta Piquet is stuck behind Keegan
20:53 YourHostPasta Can Harvey pass him?
20:54 YourHostPasta No, Piquet laps Keegan into T1
20:54 YourHostPasta Jones finally gets by!
20:54 YourHostPasta Jsut to clarify, 19 runners, 13 laps doen
20:54 YourHostPasta *down
20:55 YourHostPasta Reutemann is 12th now, and still behind Henton
20:55 YourHostPasta He's shook of Villeneuve
20:55 YourHostPasta The pair are behind the Restov of gabbiani, in 10th
20:56 Valentino_Nicchi come on beppe...
20:56 YourHostPasta Reutemann has a look into La Source
20:56 Valentino_Nicchi he'll be hoping to redeem himself after kyalami
20:56 YourHostPasta Gabbiani pulls away a little
20:56 YourHostPasta Henotn's in the slipstream, but cant maximise
20:56 RupertKeegan OK, got to go guys
20:56 Valentino_Nicchi bye
20:57 YourHostPasta bye!
20:57 YourHostPasta The Tyrrell of Hiroshi Takagi is in the race, running 16th, Andretti better watch out
20:57 salamander bye
20:58 Stramala if that stronzo pulls any funny business I swear I'll march over to Takagi's garage and kick ten colours of shite out the little bastard
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20:58 YourHostPasta Harvey Jones has closed on Piquet...
20:58 YourHostPasta I don't think he'll be making a move just yet
20:59 YourHostPasta ACTION!
20:59 pycku btw
20:59 pycku why do you want to ban turbos
20:59 pycku as there is no budget limit it seems worthless
20:59 YourHostPasta henotn and Gabbiani side by side, Henton gets through, but now Reutemann is all over the back of Gabbiani
21:00 salamander i think the turbo ban is just something to spice up the series
21:00 YourHostPasta Reutemann looks into the bus stop...But Gabbiani shuts the door
21:00 salamander and it makes sense given the creation of team unions
21:01 YourHostPasta The turbo ban was nether a serious proposal, it was an excersise to see how well the teams clubbed together
21:01 YourHostPasta And the answer was, they didn't .
21:01 YourHostPasta Fittipaldi passes Surer for 13th
21:02 YourHostPasta Out front, Lotus leads Brabham leads Ligier leads Ligier
21:02 YourHostPasta Renault power leads Renault power leads Renauult power leads Talbot power leads Talbot power
21:02 YourHostPasta Reutemann has passed Gabbinai!
21:02 salamander not a bad day for french engines
21:03 salamander finally
21:03 YourHostPasta Beppe made a mistake into the Bus Stop, and was punished harshly
21:03 YourHostPasta Alan Jones could be on for his first win of 1980
21:03 YourHostPasta And would make 4 different winners from 4, again
21:04 Valentino_Nicchi although that would make lotus the 1st team to win 2 races
21:04 YourHostPasta Andretti's now stuck behind Keegan, which could allow Jabouille to pass
21:05 YourHostPasta Alan's first win came at the 1979 US GP at Watkins Glenn, in a crazy race that saw both Williams relinquish the lead and a last lap battle with the wo Renaults
21:05 salamander don't you mean second?
21:06 YourHostPasta GrGreat race that was, incidentally Harvey Jones tripped over a JLD late in the race from 4th
21:07 YourHostPasta And yes Salamander, I mean second
21:08 YourHostPasta Emerson Fittipaldi finished 9th in the US GP last year, albeit last on the road and a lap down, and know he's behind Gabbiani
21:08 YourHostPasta *now
21:08 YourHostPasta Henotn's Shadow gives up the ghost
21:08 YourHostPasta Fiitpaldi's through!
21:09 YourHostPasta Surer and Villeneive squabble just behind!
21:09 YourHostPasta It's still a French engine 1-2-3-4-5 out front
21:10 salamander and if jabouille can get past andretti, that'd be a French engine 1-2-3-4-5-6
21:10 YourHostPasta Talking of French, Gauhtier is now 9th
21:11 salamander how far behind 8th is he?
21:11 YourHostPasta This is the 21st lap, half distance
21:11 YourHostPasta Gauthier is 5 seconds behind Arnoux's Ferrari
21:11 salamander not bad
21:11 YourHostPasta But Keegan's in the way
21:12 pycku and sutherland?
21:12 salamander oh
21:12 YourHostPasta Sutherland is 16th, just gone a lap down
21:13 YourHostPasta And around 25 seconds behind Takagi in 15th
21:13 YourHostPasta OHOHOH!
21:13 YourHostPasta THAT'S A LOTUS STOPPED!
21:14 salamander oh crap
21:14 YourHostPasta IT'S HARVEY JONES!
21:14 salamander nooo
21:14 Valentino_Nicchi ooh dear
21:14 salamander my renault engine 1-2-3 D:
21:14 YourHostPasta THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEADER OUT FROM A SOLID 4TH!
21:14 salamander 1-2-4 then
21:14 salamander whatever
21:14 YourHostPasta Jabouille is promoted to 6th, however
21:14 salamander yeah i know
21:15 YourHostPasta And laffite is now on the podium
21:16 Stramala how is Andretti doing now?
21:16 YourHostPasta salamander, you wont be pleased now. At all.
21:16 Stramala and Fittapalling
21:16 salamander let me guess: jabouilles out, engine failure
21:16 YourHostPasta Jabouille has just retired with engine failure, and Harvey's retirement promoted Andretti to 5th
21:16 salamander GAH
21:16 YourHostPasta Fittipaldi's now 9th
21:16 YourHostPasta But smoking, literally
21:17 salamander where's reutemann
21:17 YourHostPasta He'll be out within 2 laps
21:17 YourHostPasta Reutemann is 8th
21:18 Stramala boooo
21:18 Stramala possible double points down the can
21:19 YourHostPasta This is interesting, championship-wise
21:19 YourHostPasta And double points are down the can now, Andretti's just retired with brake failure
21:19 YourHostPasta
21:19 salamander reutemann 7th though
21:19 salamander come on carlos
21:19 salamander lets get something out of this
21:20 YourHostPasta Kevin's Talbot engine's had enough, promoting Reutemann to 6th and one point
21:20 salamander yeeesss
21:20 YourHostPasta Jones leads from Piquet, Laffite 3rd, Arnoux 4th, Gauthier 5th, Reutemann 6th]
21:21 salamander oh hell yes
21:21 salamander gauthier in the points o/
21:21 salamander is he keeping up with arnoux?
21:21 YourHostPasta lap 39 now, just 3 to go...
21:22 YourHostPasta Gabbiani has pulled into the pits to retire, Villeneuve's suspension went, pitting him into the barriers
21:22 pycku where is sutherland?
21:22 pycku 14-5 ?
21:22 YourHostPasta he's 9 seconds adrift of Arnoux in 4th
21:22 YourHostPasta Sutherland is 9th of 11 runners
21:22 YourHostPasta Keegan goes 2 laps down
21:23 YourHostPasta Looks like attrition is still a major part of F1
21:23 pycku well at least in top 10
21:23 Valentino_Nicchi 11 runners? i thought we were in f1, not life gp!
21:23 YourHostPasta I was kinda hoping it'do down a litte, but the situation's still there
21:24 YourHostPasta Valentino_Nicchi : Lowest finishers we've had was 9, at last year's US GP
21:24 salamander well, we're all running turbos before they're anything approaching reliable, i imagine that isn't helping matters
21:24 YourHostPasta Today's race proves a lesson - Reliability upgrades are needed!
21:25 YourHostPasta 2 of the six NA cars in the race are still running
21:25 Stramala GAAAHHHH
21:25 Stramala did Fittipaldi DNF in the end
21:25 YourHostPasta Only 3 Renault turbos are still running, from how many at the start?
21:25 YourHostPasta Yep, I'm afraid Fittipaldi did DNF
21:26 YourHostPasta Oh, and Keegan's retired with brake failure, leaving 10 runners
21:26 YourHostPasta Then again, there has been quite a few accidents in tis race
21:26 pycku damn he was 11th
21:26 pycku doesnt matter for us
21:27 YourHostPasta The accident at the start took out 4 people
21:27 salamander YourHostPasta, at most there'd be 10 renault engines on the grid
21:27 YourHostPasta Last lap!
21:27 YourHostPasta 4 are still running, Salamander
21:28 YourHostPasta I dont think it helps there are many new engines, which start off unreliable
21:28 YourHostPasta If anything, the Renault is the most relaible !!
21:28 salamander
21:29 YourHostPasta Alan Jones can see Reutemann, but he'll avoid being lapped through Radillion as this is the last lap!
21:29 YourHostPasta He's played it cool from the start
21:29 YourHostPasta Alan Jones comes round to win the Belgian GP!
21:29 YourHostPasta Piquet'll come home 3rd
21:29 YourHostPasta *2nd
21:29 YourHostPasta 3rd is Laffite's Ligier
21:29 YourHostPasta Arnoux is 4th
21:30 YourHostPasta Gauthier holds on to take 5th
21:30 YourHostPasta Reutemann somehow scores points in 6th
21:30 YourHostPasta Surer finishes for Audi, a rare sight
21:30 YourHostPasta Takagi 8th
21:30 salamander 18th and 25th to 5th and 6th
21:30 YourHostPasta Suther;and 9th
21:30 salamander thats not bad at all
21:30 YourHostPasta Brancatelli 10th
21:30 pycku well 9th is not bad but it could be better
21:30 YourHostPasta Keegan will be classified in 11th
21:31 YourHostPasta Would somone mind copying and pasting this chat for me please?
21:31 Valentino_Nicchi i'll do it
21:32 YourHostPasta In the championship, Harvey Jones and Alan Jones are tied on 17 points
21:32 Aerond F1RWRS Pre-Qualifying in a few mins in the #f1rejects room
21:32 Aerond Live broadcast http://www.ustream.tv/channel/aerond
21:32 pycku i'm not participating so i wont go there most likely
21:32 pycku so bye bye guys
21:33 pycku have a nice weekend
21:33 YourHostPasta See ya!
21:33 Valentino_Nicchi bye
21:34 YourHostPasta And Perkins is 3rd with 13, Piquet 4th with 12
21:34 YourHostPasta I hope you enjoyed what admittedly was a sligtly boring race
21:34 Valentino_Nicchi looks like a battle between the jones
21:35 YourHostPasta Thank you for turning up, I hope you didnt mind my typos and I'll see you in the F1RWRS chatroom!
21:35 YourHostPasta Oh, and DOTR goes to Reutemann, ROTR for Lamborghini engiens
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21:36 salamander
21:37 Valentino_Nicchi hmm..not sure if i should run prost gp tommorow or after f1rwrs
21:37 YourHostPasta I'd say tomorrow amte
21:37 YourHostPasta *mate
21:38 YourHostPasta I'll be in the F1RWS chatroom, so if you've anything to say to me, head over there!
21:38 YourHostPasta ---CHAT CLOSED-----
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 25 Jan 2013, 21:44
by Nuppiz
Damn typical for the live chats being on when I'm not home. First ProstGP and now this.
Well, unless something major happens I should stll easily make it to the F1RWRS race chat.
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 10:50
by pasta_maldonado
Race report will come later today, but I've re-analysed the start crash footage, and guess who's responsible for utter muppetry and has provoked the banhammer?
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 10:57
by TomWazzleshaw
pasta_maldonado wrote:Race report will come later today, but I've re-analysed the start crash footage, and guess who's responsible for utter muppetry and has provoked the banhammer?
Alberto Cara?
Re: 1980 rFAF1 - Spa CHAT LIVE NOW!
Posted: 26 Jan 2013, 11:18
by DemocalypseNow
Wizzie wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:Race report will come later today, but I've re-analysed the start crash footage, and guess who's responsible for utter muppetry and has provoked the banhammer?
Alberto Cara?
Benoit Voeckler!