1978 Virtual F1 - Pryce and Arrows champions

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Apr 2013, 10:49

Wow, that's uh, that's very effective. Not gonna panic yet, though, let's see how the race goes.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:02

pi314159 wrote:
Stramala wrote:Yeah, when can Ferrari apply for a 1.6M ground effects upgrade again?! Stupid lottery means we've gone backwards instead of forwards...

You have 800.000 left to spend for this quarter of the season.

After the end of this race, we're spending all 800K of it on ground effect upgrades.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Apr 2013, 11:10

Hmmmm, can I arrange more than one test in between race weekends? If not, I'll just test 1 ground effects update.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 15 Apr 2013, 16:58

1978 Brazilian GP - Race:

63 laps around Jacarepagua, and guess who's winning - Tom Pryce again. The defending champion gets a perfect start of the season with two consecutive wins. He took the lead from Rick Mears on Lap 28, who went on to second place, ahead of his teammate Lauda. Almost 40 seconds behind these three, Riccardo Patrese in the Ferrari finished in 4th position, followed by Keke Rosberg and Didier Pironi completing the top 6, scoring the first points of the season for Brabham and Shadow.

1. Tom Pryce (McLaren-Cosworth) 63 Laps
2. Rick Mears (Lotus-Renault) +5.806
3. Niki Lauda (Lotus-Renault) +8.009
4. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari) +46.846
5. Keke Rosberg (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) +1:03.462
6. Didier Pironi (Shadow-Cosworth) +1:41.899
7. Patrick Tambay (Penske-Cosworth) +1 Lap
8. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell-Cosworth) +1 Lap
9. Tom Sneva (Penske-Cosworth) +1 Lap
10. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault) +1 Lap
11. Rene Arnoux (Renault) +1 Lap
12. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows-Cosworth) +1 Lap
13. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell-Cosworth) +1 Lap
14. Bruno Giacomelli (Ensign-Alfa Romeo) +1 Lap
15. Jacques Laffite (Arrows-Cosworth) +1 Lap
16. Alan Jones (March-Ferrari) +1 Lap
17. David Purley (Wolf-Cosworth) +1 Lap
Retirements:
Jody Scheckter (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) 44 Laps / Accident
Elio de Angelis (Ligier-Ferrari) 43 Laps / Engine
Carlos Reutemann (Williams-Cosworth) 35 Laps / Gearbox
Ronnie Peterson (Shadow-Cosworth) 26 Laps / Accident
Chris Amon (Surtees-Cosworth) 17 Laps / Transmission
Carlos Pace (Williams-Cosworth) 16 Laps / Engine
Clay Regazzoni (Ensign-Alfa Romeo) 12 Laps / Clutch
Mario Andretti (March-Ferrari) 3 Laps / Engine
James Hunt (McLaren-Cosworth) 2 Laps / Clutch
Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 2 Laps / Transmission
Gijs van Lennep (Ligier) 1 Lap / Accident

Fastest Lap: Rick Mears (Lotus): 1:40.654

DOTR: Rick Mears: Beat 1975 world champion Lauda in his second race and scored the fastest lap.

ROTR: Wolf: Wolf are paying the price for ignoring ground effects.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:11

Shame that Clay's clutch packed early. Bruno put some good laps and hold on 14. Not bad considering that Ensign only expend 150k on GE while the top teams use at leat 1.5M only for this race!
So, Ensign will toss 900k on ground effect

Post by **Ataxia** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:15

Average result. Hopefully the upgrades will push us up a bit, but I fear that we're going to have to rely on races of attrition to have a hope of good points.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:19

pi314159 wrote:DOTR: Rick Mears: Beat double world champion Lauda in his second race and scored the fastest lap.

Lauda didn't win the 1977 title, remember?

Also, awesome to see Pryce continuing to be awesome - he's already in a very strong position for the championship, hopefully he can keep this up. Shame about Hunt's clutch, but he's more than quick enough to make that up and still challenge for the title - he proved that last year.

Very surprising to see none of the Renaults blew up, as well - why can't they be this reliable in rFAF1?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:22

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
pi314159 wrote:DOTR: Rick Mears: Beat double world champion Lauda in his second race and scored the fastest lap.

Lauda didn't win the 1977 title, remember?

Also, awesome to see Pryce continuing to be awesome. Shame about Hunt's clutch, but he's more than quick enough to make that up and still challenge for the title - he proved that last year.

Very surprising to see none of the Renaults blew up, as well - why can't they be this reliable in rFAF1?

The Renault is in fact the least reliable engine, but this time the Renault-powered teams were lucky.

Post by **tommykl** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:25

Well, with us being crap so far, I guess we'll have to make a budget effort then... 900K on ground effects it is.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 15 Apr 2013, 17:43

Holy crap, a point! :shock:

Given how pants we've become, that is just magical

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 15 Apr 2013, 18:40

I know it will fail, but Tyrrell wants to spend 200k in ground effect and 250k in topspeed

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 15 Apr 2013, 20:40

Samster and SuperAguri, could you please specify the line-up for the next Grand Prix?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 15 Apr 2013, 20:50

Championship Standings:
Drivers:
1. Pryce 18
2. Mears 6 (1 2nd, 1 14th)
3. Regazzoni 6 (1 2nd, 1 ret)
4. Lauda 4 (1 3rd, 1 12th)
-. Fittipaldi 4 (1 3rd, 1 12th)
6. Patrese 4 (1 4th, 1 6th)
7. Hunt 3
8. Villeneuve 2
-. Rosberg 2
10. Pironi 1

Teams:
1. McLaren 21
2. Lotus 10
3. Ensign 6
4. Ferrari 6
5. Arrows 4
6. Brabham 2
7. Shadow 1
8. Penske 0 (1 7th, 1 9th)
9. Williams 0 (1 7th)
10. Tyrrell 0 (1 8th)
11. Renault 0 (1 9th)
12. Surtees 0 (1 15th)
13. March 0 (1 16th)
14. Ligier 0 (1 17th, 0 DNQ)
15. Wolf 0 (1 17th, 1 DNQ)
16. Fittipaldi 0 (1 19th)
17. Kojima 0 (1 20th)
no qualifications so far:
ATS
Boro
Apollon
Merzario
Theodore
Martini

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 16 Apr 2013, 01:07

Theodore will run Derek Daly (several years too early) and will be Japanese racing legend Geoff Lees for two races.

HawkAussie · Post by **HawkAussie** » 16 Apr 2013, 07:47

In a upgrade Merzario will remove the BRM enigne and replace it with a Ford Cosworth - 1977 Spec, for the rest of the year. Also they will spend 300K on ground effect and 300k on top speed

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 16 Apr 2013, 12:11

Piercarlo Ghinzani will race for Boro in the next three events.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 16 Apr 2013, 12:50

By the way, if anyone at the back of the grid is looking for a quick driver to fill in for a race or two, McLaren would be willing to pay Danny Ongais' salary for them. His pace has been comparable to that of Pryce and Hunt's.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 16 Apr 2013, 12:57

1.2 mln on ground effect for Arrows, please!

BTW with that random factor, will it be divided into 4 packs of 300k or just one at 1.2 mln?

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 16 Apr 2013, 13:07

Ligier will put 300k into Reliablity and another 150k into Ground Effects.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 16 Apr 2013, 17:01

Brabham would like to put 500k into ground effects, 200k into top speed and 300k into reliability.

If I've got everything wrong, take away the speed upgrade. If it's still wrong, take away the reliability upgrade

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 16 Apr 2013, 17:35

One speed and ground-effect upgrade, please.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 16 Apr 2013, 22:08

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:By the way, if anyone at the back of the grid is looking for a quick driver to fill in for a race or two, McLaren would be willing to pay Danny Ongais' salary for them. His pace has been comparable to that of Pryce and Hunt's.

No thanks, Brian Henton is the best driver in the world 8-)

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 16 Apr 2013, 22:29

This wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:By the way, if anyone at the back of the grid is looking for a quick driver to fill in for a race or two, McLaren would be willing to pay Danny Ongais' salary for them. His pace has been comparable to that of Pryce and Hunt's.

No thanks, Brian Henton is the best driver in the world

Very well, but the offer's still on the table if you - or anyone else - change their mind.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 16 Apr 2013, 23:02

This wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:By the way, if anyone at the back of the grid is looking for a quick driver to fill in for a race or two, McLaren would be willing to pay Danny Ongais' salary for them. His pace has been comparable to that of Pryce and Hunt's.

No thanks, Brian Henton is the best driver in the world

So good that, in an alternate universe, when he got sacked and replaced by a Voeckler (!!!), in one race said Voeckler got a better result than Henton had all season?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Apr 2013, 10:29

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Hmmmm, can I arrange more than one test in between race weekends? If not, I'll just test 1 ground effects update.

You can only arrange one test between two weekends, but you can also buy some additional untested updates. On which track do you want to test the update, and which drivers willrun during the test?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Apr 2013, 10:59

pi314159 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Hmmmm, can I arrange more than one test in between race weekends? If not, I'll just test 1 ground effects update.

You can only arrange one test between two weekends, but you can also buy some additional untested updates. On which track do you want to test the update, and which drivers willrun during the test?

We'll test the ground effects at Thruxton (or Brands Hatch if that's not acceptable), with Hunt, Pryce, and Ongais driving.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Apr 2013, 14:31

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
pi314159 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Hmmmm, can I arrange more than one test in between race weekends? If not, I'll just test 1 ground effects update.

You can only arrange one test between two weekends, but you can also buy some additional untested updates. On which track do you want to test the update, and which drivers willrun during the test?

We'll test the ground effects at Thruxton (or Brands Hatch if that's not acceptable), with Hunt, Pryce, and Ongais driving.

Thruxton is acceptable, however, it's difficult for me to estimate how fast a late 70s F1 car would have been there, so I'd prefer Brands Hatch.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 17 Apr 2013, 16:52

pi314159 wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:We'll test the ground effects at Thruxton (or Brands Hatch if that's not acceptable), with Hunt, Pryce, and Ongais driving.
Thruxton is acceptable, however, it's difficult for me to estimate how fast a late 70s F1 car would have been there, so I'd prefer Brands Hatch.

Brands it is then.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Apr 2013, 19:44

McLaren ground effect testing at Brands Hatch:
1. James Hunt (McLaren M26B) 1:19.360
2. Tom Pryce (McLaren M26B) +0.432
3. Danny Ongais (McLaren M26B) +0.538
Your update was successful.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Apr 2013, 20:19

FMecha wrote:One speed and ground-effect upgrade, please.

I read this as 300k each.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 17 Apr 2013, 20:21

Ferrari Ground Effect upgrade
to 300k: success
300k-600k: fail
600k-800k: success

Ensign Ground Effect upgrade:
to 300k: success
300k-600k: success
600k-900k: success

Wolf Ground Effect upgrade:
to 300k: success
300k-600k: fail
600k-900k: success

Tyrrell Ground Effect upgrade
200k: success

Merzario Ground Effect upgrade
300k: success

Arrows Ground Effect upgrade
to 300k: fail
300k-600k success
600k-900k success
900k-1.2K success

Renault:
300k: fail

Ligier:
150k: success

Brabham:
to 300k: success
300k-500k: success

ATS:
300k: success

Post by **Ataxia** » 17 Apr 2013, 20:26

Oh...for the love of all things breaded. The only break we can seem to catch is a sodding KitKat.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Apr 2013, 20:22

1978 South African GP - Pre-Qualifying:

1. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) 1:15.131
2. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +0.340
3. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +0.482
4. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +0.671
5. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +1.549
6. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Boro 002) +1.635
DNPQ:
7. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +1.810
8. Arturo Merzario (Merzario A1) +2.253
9. Geoff Lees (Theodore TR01) +2.362
10. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +2.424
11. Derek Daly (Theodore TR01) +0:3.000
12. Harald Ertl (Apollon Fly 2) +3.015
13. Patrick Studer (Merzario A1) +3.127

The obvious four made it into main qualifying again, but in reversed order. Arrows, who brought a large ground effect upgrade to Kyalami, have passed Williams. The other two drivers to make it into main qualifying are Jochen Mass (ATS) and surprisingly debutant Piercarlo Ghinzani in the Boro.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 18 Apr 2013, 21:01

1978 South African GP - Qualifying:
1. Tom Pryce (McLaren M26B) 1:13.622
2. Rick Mears (Lotus 79) +0.282
3. James Hunt (McLaren M26B) +0.359
4. Niki Lauda (Lotus 79) +0.494
5. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T3) +0.543
6. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT46) +0.877
7. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +0.906
8. Gijs van Lennep (Ligier JS9) +1.133
9. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +1.163
10. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT46) +1.197
11. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T3) +1.248
12. Bruno Giacomelli (Ensign N177B) +1.254
13. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +1.394
14. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20) +1.613
15. Didier Pironi (Shadow DN9) +1.629
16. Patrick Tambay (Penske PC6) +1.707
17. Clay Regazzoni (Ensign N177B) +1.713
18. Rene Arnoux (Renault RS01B) +1.737
19. Alan Jones (March 781) +1.824
20. Jacky Ickx (Wolf WR5) +1.893
21. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault RS01B) +1.928
22. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 008) +2.063
23. Elio de Angelis (Ligier JS9) +2.104
24. Tom Sneva (Penske PC6) +2.205
25. Geoff Brabham (Fittipaldi F5A) +2.286
26. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell 008) +2.313
27. David Purley (Wolf WR5) +2.370
28. Ronnie Peterson (Shadow DN9) +2.464
DNQ:
29. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +2.482
30. Mario Andretti (March 781) +2.745
31. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +3.260
32. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Boro 002) +3.362
33. Brian Henton (Kojima KE009B) +3.453

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Apr 2013, 21:17

Excellent. Pryce is really coming into his own this season.

UncreativeUsername37 · Post by **UncreativeUsername37** » 18 Apr 2013, 21:56

Come on, attrition, do your stuff! Except to us! Sure, we spent nothing on reliability, but pleeeaaase?

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 18 Apr 2013, 22:12

How long before I can upgrade the car?

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 18 Apr 2013, 22:24

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
This wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:By the way, if anyone at the back of the grid is looking for a quick driver to fill in for a race or two, McLaren would be willing to pay Danny Ongais' salary for them. His pace has been comparable to that of Pryce and Hunt's.

No thanks, Brian Henton is the best driver in the world

Very well, but the offer's still on the table if you - or anyone else - change their mind.

Well, it would be a good way of cost-cutting if he drives for free. This saves me like 50000 or so (which will be just enough to design some new gurney flap )

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 19 Apr 2013, 06:51

It seems that our upgrade, which uses the ground effect for the first time in our car rationally, is really working well. Let's hope for a good race and both our drivers finish in the points. This is our aim for now.

Post by **Londoner** » 19 Apr 2013, 12:06

What the bloody hell was that Mario?!