F1 Alternativ: season 1990

Alextrax52 · Post by **Alextrax52** » 15 Aug 2013, 19:51

pasta_maldonado wrote:Lotus will test at Oulton Park, with all 3 drivers focusing on improving the front wing

Are you allowed to test at the non-F1 circuits?

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 15 Aug 2013, 19:52

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:
pasta_maldonado wrote:Lotus will test at Oulton Park, with all 3 drivers focusing on improving the front wing

Are you allowed to test at the non-F1 circuits?

Last time I checked, Donington was not an F1 circuit, but we ran there just fine last time.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 15 Aug 2013, 19:54

We'll go back to Mondello Park and have all 3 drivers work on the sequential gearbox

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 15 Aug 2013, 21:40

Osella will test again at Mugello, our three drivers making suspension tests

The Lukas · Post by **The Lukas** » 15 Aug 2013, 21:53

Coloni will test at Mugello

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 01:16

The Lukas wrote:Coloni will test at Mugello

What will Coloni test?

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 01:43

Round 4: Monaco

Pre-Qualifying

1 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:27.101
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:27.244
3 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:28.715
4 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:29.005
5 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:29.095 DNPQ
6 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:29.196 DNPQ
7 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:29.220 DNPQ
8 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:29.435 DNPQ
9 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:30.675 DNPQ

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 01:48

Round 4: Monaco

Qualifying
1 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:25.474
2 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.757
3 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:25.888
4 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:25.930
5 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:26.016
6 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:26.155
7 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:26.396
8 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:26.407
9 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:26.552
10 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:26.577
11 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:26.936
12 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:26.947
13 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:27.068
14 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:27.212
15 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:27.222
16 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:27.458
17 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:27.502
18 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:27.593
19 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.729
20 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:27.755
21 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) 1:27.855
22 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:27.933
23 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:28.050
24 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:28.063
25 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:28.298
26 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:28.328
27 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:28.379 DNQ
28 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:28.845 DNQ
29 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:28.871 DNQ
30 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:29.261 DNQ

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 02:05

Round 4: Monaco

Race

It was raining until about 1 h befor the GP startet. That track was still a bit wet but a few teams tryed it and startet on slicks. Williams, Arrows and de Cesaris in the Brabham. After the first lap Piquet was leading Prost and Senna with Alesi 4th and Nakajima 5th. Boutsen hold his 9th position on slick tyres while Modena was struggling a bit. The positions didn't really changed until lap 12. After this Boutsen startet to lap faster and faster. He managed to overtake a few drivers and was in 6th position after lap 25. Piquet was stil leading Prost and Senna. Than pretty much all drivers had to pit, except those on slicks. Boutsen managed to get in 2nd position right behind Prost. Piquet had a terrible stop ending up in 5th poosition behind Häkkinen. Boutsen chased Prost. He could have gone much faster because Prost had a wet-weather set up. Boutsen manged to get Prost passed at the harbor and ran fastest lap a few laps later. He drove the race of his life. Prost was under pressure from Senna who also chased him but have to give up close to the end because his engine gave up. So Boutsen won in front of Prost and Häkkinen who gained his second podium in a row.

1 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:57:30.494
2 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:58:01.204
3 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:58:17.305
4 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:58:33.674
5 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:58:37.160
6 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:58:59.314
7 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
8 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
9 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -1 lap
10 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
11 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) -1 lap
12 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) -1 lap/Engine
13 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) -2 laps
14 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) -2 laps
15 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -2 laps
16 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) -2 laps
17 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) -2 laps
— Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) DNF lap 60/Suspension
Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) DNF lap 58/Gearbox
Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) DNF lap 51/Accident
Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) DNF lap 46/Collision
Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 46/Collision
Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 33/Collision
Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) DNF lap 33/Collision
Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) DNF lap 4/Suspension
Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) DNF lap 1/Clutch

Fastest Lap: Thierry Boutsen

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 02:24

Drivers Championship
1.Ayrton Senna 15
2.Alain Prost 15
3.Thierry Boutsen 15
4.Stefano Modena 10
5.Alessandro Nannini 10
6.Nelson Piquet 10
7.Mika Häkkinen 8
8.Jean Alesi 6
9.Satoru Nakajima 3
10.Gerhard Berger 3
11.Nigel Mansell 2
12.Alessandro Zanardi 2
13.Michele Alboreto 1

Constructors Championship
1.Benneton 25
2.Williams 25
3.Mclaren 21
4.Ferrari 13
5.Footwork Arrows 8
6.Lotus 3
7.Brabham 2
8.Larrousse 2
9.Minardi 1

Prize Money
Williams 900k
Mclaren 800k
Footwork Arrows 400k
Ferrari 300k
Benneton 100k

Pole Position Challange
Nelson Piquet 2
Jean Alesi 1
Alain Prost 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Gerhard Berger 1
Thierry Boutsen 1

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 16 Aug 2013, 05:19

Winning from 9th on the grid!? At Monaco!? Way to go, Thierry! I'll make a World Champion out of you yet.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 16 Aug 2013, 06:37

Another podium finish is music for my ears

Well done, Mika, you are future champion!

However, Arnoux was way off the pace he needs to keep his seat. We are giving him just 2 more rounds and if he does not improve - he will be sacked (and Damon Hill will come instead as second Arrows driver).

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 16 Aug 2013, 07:36

Why dont tyrell have any pace?
We need our update to work to able to score points otherwise we are out of money

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 16 Aug 2013, 07:46

Suspension failure?

Right.
All three drivers will be testing the new suspension at Jerez, please.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 16 Aug 2013, 08:26

Out of interest, are you using GPM2?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 16 Aug 2013, 09:10

roblomas52 wrote:Out of interest, are you using GPM2?

Hermann95 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

Nope, not GPM2. It would've been impossible anyway as GPM2 only supports 13 teams and 26 cars.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 16 Aug 2013, 11:52

Nuppiz wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:Out of interest, are you using GPM2?

Hermann95 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

Nope, not GPM2. It would've been impossible anyway as GPM2 only supports 13 teams and 26 cars.

Thats right. Played a lot GPM2 but in the past there is abit of lack in the comunity. Btw i would have to edit very much things to run this, even with 13 teams.

roblo97 · Post by **roblo97** » 16 Aug 2013, 11:56

Nuppiz wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:Out of interest, are you using GPM2?

Hermann95 wrote:
takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

Nope, not GPM2. It would've been impossible anyway as GPM2 only supports 13 teams and 26 cars.

ah, thanks for sorting that out mate

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 16 Aug 2013, 15:03

FMecha wrote:Out of nowhere, van Rossem demanded a working active suspension and power steering (not necesarily both, though) or he will quit. As a result, we would like to test those, at any course.

Again.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 16 Aug 2013, 15:09

McLaren will test at Le Castellet after Monaco. Prost and Alesi will concentrate on testing a new design of rear wing while Schneider will keep the development of the sequential gearbox up.

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 16 Aug 2013, 18:03

Did we past through pre-quali? Is that what I read?

Dear Lord, finally!

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 16 Aug 2013, 22:03

Welp! Just as IRL, the 90's Dallara chassis is not working that well. I need a power circuit to see if there's any way to improve.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 18 Aug 2013, 21:42

Testing

Ferrari

Gearbox succesful
Suspension not succesful
Cooling system succesful

AGS

Adjustable Rear Wing system didn't worked
Gearbox not succesful

Williams

Power Steering system worked

Minardi

Active Suspensionsystem didn't worked
Front Wing succesful
Rear Wing succesful

Arrows

Front Wing not succesful

Tyrell

Active Suspension system didn't worked

Lotus

Front Wing not succesful

Benneton

sequential Gearbox system didn't work

Osella

Suspension succesful

Larrousse

Suspension succesful

Onyx

NOTE please state your testing plans clearer the next time. I decided that Onyx will test the power steering system because it is cheaper and can be developed faster!
Power Steering system didn't worked

Mclaren

rear Wing succesful
Sequential Gearbox system didn't work

Team Budgets after testing
Ferrari 19,3m$
Tyrell 0m$
Williams 13,0m$
Brabham 1,4m$
Footwork Arrows 0,8m$
Lotus 3,8m$
Osella 5,15m$
Leyton House 3,2m$
AGS 2,25m$
Benneton 11,0m$
BMS-Dallara 0m$
Minardi -2,4m$
Ligier 1,5m$
Mclaren 5,7m$
Larrousse 7,9m$
Coloni 0,1m$
Euro Brun -8m$
Onyx 1,5m$

Nest race will be probably tomorow

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 18 Aug 2013, 21:48

Well our update didnt work and with no money left and the team seeming to go backwards looks like i have to put Tyrrell into debt to rescue our season.

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 18 Aug 2013, 21:51

News

Honda will bring new engines for the canadian GP

Renault supplied teams will have the oportunity to buy an engine upgrade which will be deliverd for the Mexican GP
It will cost 1m$. please state if you would like to buy.

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 18 Aug 2013, 21:54

Tyrell will buy an engine upgrade nd hopefully we can use this to our advantage and score points to get us back in contention

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 18 Aug 2013, 22:00

Williams will purchase the engine upgrade.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 19 Aug 2013, 06:08

Hermann95 wrote:Larrousse 7,9m$

That's awesome, I still have lots of money. And thankfully the new suspension system worked. We'll see if there's a need for a major update.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 19 Aug 2013, 06:38

Mr. Rossem wrote:*long rage* I am out of here. Let your team be cursed!!

Asuka Kuwashima, on noticing Rossem's anger, wrote:Anata wa baka, Rossem. *removes Moneytron logos from the cars*

Meanwhile, Mr. Monteverdi promptly places his logos on the cars... stay tuned in this channel for more. :ugeek:

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 19 Aug 2013, 13:34

Round 5 Canada

Pre-Qualifying

1 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:24.698
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:24.865
3 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:25.311
4 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:25.928
5 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:26.028 DNPQ
6 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:26.337 DNPQ
7 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:26.366 DNPQ
8 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:26.931 DNPQ
9 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:27.148 DNPQ

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 19 Aug 2013, 13:34

Round 5 Canada

Qualifying

1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:23.076
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:23.225
3 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:23.393
4 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:23.497
5 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:23.553
6 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:23.724
7 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:23.982
8 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:24.195
9 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:24.252
10 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:24.295
11 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:24.310
12 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:24.451
13 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:24.493
14 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:24.552
15 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:24.824
16 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) 1:24.907
17 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:24.966
18 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:24.994
19 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:25.003
20 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:25.022
21 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:25.030
22 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:25.271
23 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:25.273
24 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:25.359
25 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:25.448
26 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:25.474
27 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:25.805 DNQ
28 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:25.824 DNQ
29 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:25.945 DNQ
30 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:26.365 DNQ

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 19 Aug 2013, 13:46

Round 5 Canada

Race

It was a exciting sunday aftrenoon here at Montreal. At the start Prost was leading in front of Alesi and Piquet. The Mclaren's where so fast that the gap between Alesi and Piquet was 35 seconds after 28 laps. Alesi was just 1 second behind Prost. Behind Piquet there was already a little traffic jam. Boutsen was in Piquets gearbox since the star, but he couldn't overtake the 3 times world champion. Behind Boutsen was Senna and Berger. After the pit stops Prost was still leading but Alesi was just behind him. Piquet lost his 3rd place by making a very slow pit stop. As Senna damaged his Suspension in the last chicane Berger was now 3rd because he didn't made a pitstop. Boutsen was 4th and Piquet 5th. Michele Alboreto drove a perfect race and managed to go up on 6th place without a pitstop. With only 2 laps to go the engine of the chased world champion Alain Prost failed. This caused that Jean Alesi won his first GP.

1 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:45:38.524
2 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:46:20.510
3 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:46:36.319
4 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) -1 lap
5 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -1 lap
6 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
7 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) -1 lap
8 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) -1 lap
9 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) -1 lap
10 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) -1 lap
11 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) -1 lap
12 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) -1 lap
13 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) -1 lap
14 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) -1 lap
15 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) -1 lap
16 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) -2 laps
17 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) -2 laps/Engine
18 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) -2 laps
19 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) -2 laps
20 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) -2 laps
21 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) -2 laps
22 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) -3 laps/Brakes
— Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) DNF lap 59/Engine
Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 48/Accident
Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) DNF lap 41/Suspension
Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) DNF lap 1/Collision

Fastest Lap: Jean Alesi

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 19 Aug 2013, 14:09

Drivers Championship
1. Thierry Boutsen 19
2. Alain Prost 15
3. Ayrton Senna 15
4. Jean Alesi 15
5. Nelson Piquet 13
6. Stefano Modena 10
7. Alessandro Nannini 10
8. Gerhrad Berger 9
9. Mika Häkkinen 8
10. Saturo Nakajima 3
11. Michele Alboreto 3
12. Nigel Mansell 2
13. Alessandro Zanardi 2
14. Martin Brundle 1

Constructors Championship
1. Mclaren 30
2. Williams 29
3. Benneton 25
4. Ferrari 16
5. Lotus 9
6. Arrows 8
7. Minardi 3
8. Brabham 2
9. Larrouse 2
10. Tyrell 1

Prize Money
Mclaren 900k
Lotus 600k
Williams 400k
Ferrari 300k
Minardi 200k
Tyrell 100k

Pole Position Challange
Nelson Piquet 2
Alain Prost 2
Jean Alesi 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Gerhard Berger 1
Thierry Boutsen 1
Jean Alesi 1

Bleu · Post by **Bleu** » 19 Aug 2013, 14:40

Compared to real-life the all cars seem too reliable.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 19 Aug 2013, 14:46

Nice 2nd place for Berger there

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 19 Aug 2013, 14:50

As expected, without development the car DNQ. Time to be on the red.

Next time we'll go to Imola for the following menú
Car1: Floor
Car2: Floor
Car3: Adjustable Front Wing

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 19 Aug 2013, 15:05

Tyrrell would like to thank Honda because had Prost's engine lasted the distance we wouldn't have a point, hopefully thats the start of some more

Hermann95 · Post by **Hermann95** » 19 Aug 2013, 15:46

Bleu wrote:Compared to real-life the all cars seem too reliable.

Yeah thats posibble...but i won't change something mid-season because this would be unfair!
Hopefully i get it done better next season!

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 19 Aug 2013, 16:26

Thierry Boutsen is the championship leader! This is the best thing!

Though, Modena's performance was very disappointing. He may have won a race, but with Wendlinger's testing pace, he needs to be matching Boutsen in races at least if he wants to remain a Williams driver.

EDIT: Following (thanks, peteroli) the Mexican Grand Prix, Williams will stop over at Road America to test the following:

Car 1: Power Steering
Car 2: Front Wing
Car 3: Rear Wing

Peteroli34 · Post by **Peteroli34** » 19 Aug 2013, 16:35

I thought we could only test after every two grand prix so the next test avalibilty would be after the Mexican grand prix