Grand Prix Rejects

Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:I get a little miffed when people claim that all you need to win in F1 is speed. While that is important and the main ingredient I think some people forget that in F1 you need more than that. You need the dedication the mental strength the stability and the right environment and adaptability to do well too. Oh and that little thing called luck

What are your views on what it takes to win in F1?

Luck, skill and a great team arround you.

Captain Hammer wrote:Here's how I would do it: create three world titles - a World Championship for Drivers, a World Championship for Constructors, and a World Championship for Teams. At the start of the year, certain outfits are designated Constructors. They build an engine, and they build a chassis. Every team on the grid signs up with a Constructor. They pay for the development of the chassis, so the costs are spread equally between all teams. There would naturally be a cap on the number of teams that could join a Constructor. This way, the costs of developing a chassis comes down because they are spread evenly around. And by creating an extra championship, the teams still have something to play for.

I am not sure that would be a great solution. It all sounds much like MotoGP and that did not turn out great for that sport. I think a budget cap solution can and should be achieved. Forget about that whole "can't be implemented stuff" that is being bandied around from people with vested interests. I am talking about what is being made in French or Germany football championships (specially the French one). If they can do it, then so can F1. Trouble is that no political good will exists from the top teams and the top brass at the sport. Besides, the sheer amount of cash going out to CVC could finantially clear some of the struggling teams.

I don't think anyone understood what MotoGP was doing, least of all MotoGP. I came up with the idea from looking at the 1950s, when many teams ran the same model of car. I know the idea of customer cars is unpopular, so I came up with the idea of giving teams equal ownership over a chassis from the beginning of the design process and the creation of a World Teams' Championship as a direct response to those criticisms. By putting their own money into the design and development of the car, they would get access to all of the upgrades and the data at the same time. They're not just buying success - they would have a legitimate claim to owning what they race.

Just think - you need about $150 million to be a competitive midfielder these days. This way, three teams could all put up $50 million to develop the car. I just cut their expenses by 33%

Well, truth be told MotoGP was more like the first part of your post.
In the 50s you had plain and simple custumer cars. You bought an Alfa Romeo, for instance, you would then suit it to the regulations while you tried to improve it in your shed. That is a bit hard to happen these days. As for your idea, I don't know if that is fair on the top teams. Sure, you can have a midfielder if you come up with 3 teams paying up $50 million but if one of them is a top team, being a midfielder is not good enough so each would pay $100 million for a top line chassis. Unfortunately one of them cannot afford such budget. Would they have complete access to what the others have paid, full price? Your solution can work if implemented at the back of the grid, but where would you draw the line in where it wouldn't be permitted? Would it be fair to the midfielders who had to pay alone for a chassis? Or even top teams for allowed by the midfielders?

Any team could purchase any chassis, engine and upgrade package (no mixing and matching) from a constructor on the condition that they competed with it. The cost would have to be regulated somehow to make sure it was fair, the idea being that all teams pay the same amount regardless of which chassis package they buy.

You know what I find amusing? Considering the recent "DonTirri dislikes Hamilton, lets bash him!" trend that's reared it's head, it's funny that on the past few years, when everybody and their mother was bashing on Vettel, such posts were basically absent and if they appeared, they were bashed to oblivion.

Seems like hypocrisy has reared its head in F1rejects once again.

DonTirri wrote:You know what I find amusing? Considering the recent "DonTirri dislikes Hamilton, lets bash him!" trend that's reared it's head, it's funny that on the past few years, when everybody and their mother was bashing on Vettel, such posts were basically absent and if they appeared, they were bashed to oblivion.

Seems like hypocrisy has reared its head in F1rejects once again.

Pretty sure I had to make a post calling people out on that when the Vettel-hate was at its zenith...

However, on the flipside, that doesn't make constantly moaning about Hamilton correct; be the bigger man and ignore any such outbursts. You'll live longer.

DonTirri wrote:You know what I find amusing? Considering the recent "DonTirri dislikes Hamilton, lets bash him!" trend that's reared it's head, it's funny that on the past few years, when everybody and their mother was bashing on Vettel, such posts were basically absent and if they appeared, they were bashed to oblivion.

Oh my! The Vettel bashing days! After the races, my mother would come to the street burning Vettel photos, destroying Red Bull cans and snapping index fingers of those unfortunate to be passing by. Such nostalgia!

Ataxia wrote:Pretty sure I had to make a post calling people out on that when the Vettel-hate was at its zenith...

There was literally pages of the stuff, I remember it as well as you do. However, it appears that neither yours nor my memory is as selective as our little Finnish friend.

In a way, I want Hamilton to win the title if only for the reaction on here and the resulting karma

roblomas52 wrote:In a way, I want Hamilton to win the title if only for the reaction on here and the resulting karma

Some will be like:
Personally, I'll be fine if Hamilton gets a second title but I wouldn't care if he won another title or not after that and it would be even nicer if Rosberg wins.

And earlier in the year we were fearing something very different; Vettel winning the title simply because of double points in the finale.

Ataxia wrote:

DonTirri wrote:You know what I find amusing? Considering the recent "DonTirri dislikes Hamilton, lets bash him!" trend that's reared it's head, it's funny that on the past few years, when everybody and their mother was bashing on Vettel, such posts were basically absent and if they appeared, they were bashed to oblivion.

Seems like hypocrisy has reared its head in F1rejects once again.

Pretty sure I had to make a post calling people out on that when the Vettel-hate was at its zenith...

However, on the flipside, that doesn't make constantly moaning about Hamilton correct; be the bigger man and ignore any such outbursts. You'll live longer.

Notice how I didn't say "completely absent". I remember your post Ataxia. But even that came after a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time of Vettel-hatedom running wild.

I guess I've just rattled a few cages with my posts, since it's more or less the same faces taking jabs at me time and again. Luckily I am thick skinned enough to basically laugh at them. Sadly it's the kind of posts that if I respond, I get strawman-dissed (Like in the... was it the RotR thread or the race thread? Too lazy to check) and if I don't, they take it as a sign of victory.

i.e textbook trolling. Pretty sad really.

good_Ralf wrote:Personally, I'll be fine if Hamilton gets a second title but I wouldn't care if he won another title or not after that and it would be even nicer if Rosberg wins.

I'd really like Ricciardo to steal it but if he cant then I guess Id have to go all nationalistic and back my countryman. That said, Rosberg winning would be fine with me, they've both done well so far this season.

I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about Hamilton, but what irks me this year is the way Mercedes bowed to public pressure to throw more support his way. If you ask me, that's what led to their season going sideways in the first place. Look at the Thursday press conference at Monza - Hamilton was naturally asked about the Spa incident in general and the FIA's response in particular, and he gave a fairly non-committal answer. But straight away, Autosport ran headline news about how Hamilton was losing confidence in the FIA's ability to police the regulations.

There's massive public and media pressure - even Martin Brundle was doing it, which I was extremely disappointed by - for Mercedes to support Hamilton more than they are. And Mercedes were dumb enough to listen to it.

good_Ralf wrote:

roblomas52 wrote:In a way, I want Hamilton to win the title if only for the reaction on here and the resulting karma

Some will be like:
Personally, I'll be fine if Hamilton gets a second title but I wouldn't care if he won another title or not after that and it would be even nicer if Rosberg wins.

And earlier in the year we were fearing something very different; Vettel winning the title simply because of double points in the finale.

If it wasn't for the disqualification in Oz, and if Red Bull had asked Vettel to let him through in the final lap of the previous GP, Ricciardo would now be on 202 points - 39 behind Hamilton, and with a real shot at being within striking distance at Abu Dhabi.

I know, if my grandma had wheels and a handlebar...

Captain Hammer wrote:I don't have any strong feelings one way or the other about Hamilton, but what irks me this year is the way Mercedes bowed to public pressure to throw more support his way. If you ask me, that's what led to their season going sideways in the first place. Look at the Thursday press conference at Monza - Hamilton was naturally asked about the Spa incident in general and the FIA's response in particular, and he gave a fairly non-committal answer. But straight away, Autosport ran headline news about how Hamilton was losing confidence in the FIA's ability to police the regulations.

There's massive public and media pressure - even Martin Brundle was doing it, which I was extremely disappointed by - for Mercedes to support Hamilton more than they are. And Mercedes were dumb enough to listen to it.

Contrary to what some might think, I prefer Rosberg to win it if only to see the reaction from those who fill forums and news commentaries with silly messages about Hamilton and F1 in general. Otherwise I won't go berserk and start stealing Mercedes symbols from their cars.
It is true, however, that most english speaking press is going for Hamilton as he is, after all, more marketable and polarizing than Rosberg is. He sells. After Spa, things got worse because it was now a question of justice for Hamilton to win it.

My viewpoint is relatively simple.

Hamilton and Rosberg are on very similar points totals right now. If Rosberg beats Hamilton on track more often than not and wins the title, good for Rosberg. If Hamilton beats Rosberg on track more often than not and wins the title, good for Hamilton. If one beats the other by way of horrible reliability issues or by fluke of double points when they have clearly been losing out in direct battles, then their title credentials look a bit dodgy.

So to date, Hamilton has been the dominant force of the two in head-to heads in races (I note maybe not so in qualifying) so I'd probably prefer if he won the title, which is what I think people like Brundle and Coulthard are getting at. However, I think Rosberg has done a good job this year and hasn't exactly fluked his way to his current position, so I wouldn't be adverse to him winning either at present, but I would like to see him beat Hamilton in an equal car at least a couple of times before the end of the season if this were the case.

DanielPT wrote:He sales.

He certainly does.


Change the original all you want, Im not changing this one

GwilymJJames wrote:Representatives from the FIA, FOM, the F1SG and all the other acronyms need to be locked in a room with no food or water and be told that they're not allowed out until they've come up with some real solutions for the problems facing the sport.

And no, standing re-starts are not a real solution. Banning team radio is not a real solution. Wacky driver numbers are not a real solution. DOUBLE bathplug POINTS ARE NOT A bathplug REAL SOLUTION.

Hiding under some coats and hoping that somehow everything will work out isn't a real solution, either.

The sad reality though is that in a few years the sport will cease to exist anyway. Caterham and Marussia are out of it, we'll have an 18 car grid at best next year, Sauber and Lotus are both on the brink and Williams are probably a little shaky after the heavy investment for this season.

CVC want to sell up as soon as they can, but declining grid numbers devalue their "product". Many circuits can't keep up with the race hosting fees and sponsor levels are at their lowest since probably the 1970s when at least fags kept the wheels turning for many teams. There's no money in it any more and CVC know it. They're desperately trying to keep hold of something that is slipping from their grasp and trying to sell every last right and perk remotely related to the sport - chief whisky supplier - what the f*ck?!

All they will succeed in doing is strangling the remaining life out of a sport that's already lost a lot of its vitality in recent years. Kids no longer care, older fans are turning away in their droves, and those in developing countries don't really give a sh*t.

The wheels are coming off the wagon, so they're making as much money as they can before ditching it for good. Enjoy it while it lasts folks.

I already watch more IndyCar than F1. Now, I'll probably barely watch F1 anymore. Even if Bernie was to kick the bucket the the chaos that would ensue would mean that the sport would probably collapse. All FOM are doing now is trying to flog a dead horse. The sport's gonna die within the next 10-20 years IMO, and there's little that can be done about it. If an attempt to change the problems with the sport's governance had been attempted earlier, before Bernie transferred FOCA's assets to FOA, the sport could have been in a healthier state. But because everyone thought things were fine at the time, nobody tried to fix it, and so we're left in this sad state, no plan for what to do when Bernie kicks the bucket, which will be the death of the sport as well because the chaos that would follow would make Andrea Moda look well organised. So, quite frankly, I see no future for F1 past Bernie. And unfortunately, Bernie is one of the biggest obstructions to progress in the 'business'. If we had done something earlier, we may have avoided this. But human nature is to only try to fix a problem once it is past the point of no return unfortunately. And besides, FOM don't give a damn about us any more. Hell, I'm starting to think NASCAR looks less greedy than FOM these days. I think Bernie's plan is to simply make as much money as he can now, then nuke the sport so nobody can continue to make a profit out of it when he dies.

End this very incoherent and ill-organised rant.

AndreaModa wrote:So that is behind the site closure then is it? Thought it might have been. What a shame.

Not confirmed. Unless others have had some insider information that not everybody has been privy to? What a shame if true - and what a shame to put to waste 15 years of work.

Take a look at what TOCA have achieved with the BTCC over the last 5 years (and probably further back than that). New regulations, openness to the fans, great racing, and at affordable prices for the average punter. I paid £32 to attend the Snetterton round, and that got me a programme, free access to the paddock area (like with all BTCC rounds), and about 8 or 9 races in the day. It was worth every penny imo. It's no real surprise that with the position TOCA have taken recently, that they're getting full grids with quality drivers (NGTC regulations), TV viewing figures have shot up in the last few years (due to their fantastic TV deal with ITV), and the circuits are reporting attendances in excess of 30,000-40,000 this season, the highest since the Super Touring days. Hell, Oulton Park reported their highest-ever attendance this year. Shame it was the dullest round of the season, but hey ho.

The point being of course is that really, I've been more interested in the BTCC over the last few years than F1, and it's not really hard to see. Yes, the racing in F1 recently has been mostly fantastic, but all that's doing is masking the massive problems that exist just under the surface, or rather, have just erupted from underneath recently. FOM are well on the way to killing F1, or at least turning into a niche product.

When the major problems in BTCC are having too many prospective entrants for the limited grid positions, and Jason Plato whinging about RWD cars (read: Colin Turkington being a better driver than him), you know BTCC and TOCA have got a good thing going at the moment.

As I said earlier, I mainly watch IndyCar these days, because tbh turning left for three and a half hours is bloody brilliant, and their road course races are better than F1's as well to boot. It's just a shame it doesn't get more coverage here in Europe because it's waaay better that F1 is these days. And TAKUMA SATO is it as well!!!!

East Londoner wrote:Take a look at what TOCA have achieved with the BTCC over the last 5 years (and probably further back than that). New regulations, openness to the fans, great racing, and at affordable prices for the average punter. I paid £32 to attend the Snetterton round, and that got me a programme, free access to the paddock area (like with all BTCC rounds), and about 8 or 9 races in the day. It was worth every penny imo. It's no real surprise that with the position TOCA have taken recently, that they're getting full grids with quality drivers (NGTC regulations), TV viewing figures have shot up in the last few years (due to their fantastic TV deal with ITV), and the circuits are reporting attendances in excess of 30,000-40,000 this season, the highest since the Super Touring days. Hell, Oulton Park reported their highest-ever attendance this year. Shame it was the dullest round of the season, but hey ho.

The point being of course is that really, I've been more interested in the BTCC over the last few years than F1, and it's not really hard to see. Yes, the racing in F1 recently has been mostly fantastic, but all that's doing is masking the massive problems that exist just under the surface, or rather, have just erupted from underneath recently. FOM are well on the way to killing F1, or at least turning into a niche product.

When the major problems in BTCC are having too many prospective entrants for the limited grid positions, and Jason Plato whinging about RWD cars (read: Colin Turkington being a better driver than him), you know BTCC and TOCA have got a good thing going at the moment.

If I hopefully manage to get moving out to Blackpool next year, I swear I'll go to the Oulton Park weekend, it's 70 miles away only... that post was enough for me to encourage going there, thanks

While Bernie does fulfil the criteria for a profile on the Reject Drivers page, I don't think he deserves one in that section. The drivers that are profiled there are examples of people who tried to fulfil their dreams of becoming a Formula One driver, with varying degrees of success. They are there to be remembered for their courageous efforts of getting into Formula One. Bernie's only real F1 "attempt" was at the 1958 Monaco GP, and that was just so he could claim the starting money (before the anoraks comment I know he was also on the entry list for Silverstone that year as well, but the car was raced by Jack Fairman anyway).

Frogfoot9013 wrote:
That same Ecclestone also believed Hitler was not a bad dictator....

I think I've proven Goodwin's Law with that statement....

I've an inkling as to why he said that, but I can't comment further due to libel laws.

Dear all,

This will have to be a very short and - I profusely apologise - blunt message because I am in a rush this morning to get to work.

What Biscione speculated (for those who saw it) was not correct. He is not (or ought not be) privy to any information from Jamie or myself. No threats have been issued. For anyone wondering, I added the disclaimer to the forum of my volition because I thought it wise to do so, since Jamie and I lead busy lives and we can't always watch over the forum, and the same would apply even for our dedicated moderators.

I'm afraid that any speculation is not helpful for us in resolving our current issues - and in fact hinders the resolution of those issues. It also has the potential to complicate the related deeply personal issues I am working through (which, I am willing to say, impinges on my mental health). Please understand this.

At the risk of being accused of censorship or being overly draconian, I have locked this thread temporarily and I have also deleted some/all of the recent posts that rumours have created - I apologise for this, but it is primarily because I do not want an incorrect piece of speculation to lead to a sequence of inflamed comments.

I have previously asked that people not speculate and I urge you again - we really need people to abide by that and respect that at present.

Right, well, given that it's been nearly 3 months since the above incidents happened, I think that's more than long enough for (relatively) cool heads to prevail and for the Rantbox to be unlocked.

Hey there!

When I woke up this morning, I really didn't want to get up, but the alarm was buzzing so I knew I had no other choice. So I get up, take a shower, and great. I didn't notice there wasn't a bathplug towel. So I go down two flights of carpeted stairs to get a towel, then as I'm in the bathroom drying myself, the baby starts crying. Everyone gives us so much crap that we haven't named the baby yet, but anyway, when I'm done I go down and find the baby and try to calm him down, right? And I see Jacred just sitting right there watching this weird British Survivor in Austria and I'm like why didn't you try to emotionally help the baby? And apparently he seriously thinks some bathplug reality show is more important than our baby. Which is bathplug stupid, but I didn't feel like an argument, and I had to get going anyway for my boring clichéd bathplug office job. So I tell him can you try to care for your own bathplug child whilst I'm gone and he gets all offended, so I'm like well, it's apparently a legitimate question.

So as I'm driving to work, the traffic as I get further into the city is kind of bad, but it's not anything enraging, it's hardly stopped. So I'm just waiting at a red light, right, when some bathplug on his bathplug mobile can't stay in his bathplug lane and crashes my right wing mirror clean off. And he just keeps doing the bathplug turn and drives away. Great. Then the light turns green, so I go another block and turn to a street that's not so major so there's actually somewhere to park, right. It's like a crowded bathplug place, though, I can't just call the police, right? I don't bathplug know. "Report it to the nearest police station" is what I read once a couple years ago and I think it had to do with German law, but like, it seems like the only reasonable option I can think of. Not that I have any bathplug idea *where* the nearest police station is, of course. I mean, I knew I had my bathplug phone so I could just find out, but I was still really pissed at the time. So I go there and I explain what happened, somehow I saw and remembered the guy's licence plate so I guess that's something. Anyway, I've explained everything I can and they say they'll call me if they need to, so I go to work and explain why I'm late, and I'm told I still have to work late for a full day's pay, which I honestly expected, but still, what the bathplug.

So right now as I'm typing this it's lunch, or you know, after lunch hours, I decided it would be easier if I just shifted my entire schedule and besides I wasn't really hungry. Yoplait and granola aren't making me happy. Normally it's a wonderful break from the tedium of my job and sometimes the rest of my life, but right now I'm just pissed. FML, dude.

I hope your day gets better. Starting the day off on a bad note always compounds things and I can see why you're pretty p***ed off. Personally I think its important to make time at the start of the day to get your mind straight. For me that comes through my faith (prayer), for others it might be the gym, reading the paper etc. I imagine that's very hard to do when you've got a newborn in your life, but an extra 10 minutes earlier in the morning can make a difference. Stuff like today can't be helped, but you can deal with things in different ways.

Or if worst comes to worst, sit back and be thankful you're not Perry McCarthy sitting in an Andrea Moda heading full speed into Eau Rouge.

Feel free to tell me to bathplug off for nosing into your business (but you posted it!).

Well, talk about days not going well, that explains my last 5 weeks bar the holiday period. Hell, it all started 2 years ago. Today was mostly getting loads of crap to complete; thank goodness I got most of it done already as exams are coming up. But my life at home has sucked to the point that I'm driven to want to leave, because my parents are in a scene of endless fighting about the shape of the house, financial stuff, employment (which there is a lack of), and just a ton of issues in general. Somehow, I remain in a somewhat okay condition mentally, but mostly being confined to my room in a state of staying in my safe haven thanks to the tension in the household (something I never knew about until my mom explained it) is just not something I want. Overall, talk about a rough patch, but things are going too far. My dad's already been kicked out once for not helping out financially...

I mustn't ramble on much longer with the rant, I'm already frustrated enough with things from lackluster school grades (excpected to get straight As, but that's well out the window thanks to not understanding shite being taught). I do have to wonder what would someone else do in my situation? As the only child, I'm on the receiving end of two different stories. However, it's these two stories tearing the life that I had so joyously lived for a great amount of time apart. How could I help resolve the stupidity I've had to experience for way too long? How am I to figure out the truth and get to the bottom of it? How am I already being affected besides what I've already mentioned? Whatever the solution, I'm done with being an innocent bystander in a tumultuous situation.

go_Rubens wrote:Well, talk about days not going well, that explains my last 5 weeks bar the holiday period. Hell, it all started 2 years ago. Today was mostly getting loads of crap to complete; thank goodness I got most of it done already as exams are coming up. But my life at home has sucked to the point that I'm driven to want to leave, because my parents are in a scene of endless fighting about the shape of the house, financial stuff, employment (which there is a lack of), and just a ton of issues in general. Somehow, I remain in a somewhat okay condition mentally, but mostly being confined to my room in a state of staying in my safe haven thanks to the tension in the household (something I never knew about until my mom explained it) is just not something I want. Overall, talk about a rough patch, but things are going too far. My dad's already been kicked out once for not helping out financially...

I mustn't ramble on much longer with the rant, I'm already frustrated enough with things from lackluster school grades (excpected to get straight As, but that's well out the window thanks to not understanding shite being taught). I do have to wonder what would someone else do in my situation? As the only child, I'm on the receiving end of two different stories. However, it's these two stories tearing the life that I had so joyously lived for a great amount of time apart. How could I help resolve the stupidity I've had to experience for way too long? How am I to figure out the truth and get to the bottom of it? How am I already being affected besides what I've already mentioned? Whatever the solution, I'm done with being an innocent bystander in a tumultuous situation.

I know some people in situations that somewhat resemble yours, although I won't say that it makes me able to fully understand your situation. At least you have been able to keep in an okay mental condition, if you lose hope, it's fairly self-explanatory that things will not improve for you. All I can really do is say I just hope things get better for you, I don't want to see more people having their lives made into a mess due to turbulent family life; I've seen it happen all too many times in my area...

go_Rubens wrote:Well, talk about days not going well, that explains my last 5 weeks bar the holiday period. Hell, it all started 2 years ago. Today was mostly getting loads of crap to complete; thank goodness I got most of it done already as exams are coming up. But my life at home has sucked to the point that I'm driven to want to leave, because my parents are in a scene of endless fighting about the shape of the house, financial stuff, employment (which there is a lack of), and just a ton of issues in general. Somehow, I remain in a somewhat okay condition mentally, but mostly being confined to my room in a state of staying in my safe haven thanks to the tension in the household (something I never knew about until my mom explained it) is just not something I want. Overall, talk about a rough patch, but things are going too far. My dad's already been kicked out once for not helping out financially...

I mustn't ramble on much longer with the rant, I'm already frustrated enough with things from lackluster school grades (excpected to get straight As, but that's well out the window thanks to not understanding shite being taught). I do have to wonder what would someone else do in my situation? As the only child, I'm on the receiving end of two different stories. However, it's these two stories tearing the life that I had so joyously lived for a great amount of time apart. How could I help resolve the stupidity I've had to experience for way too long? How am I to figure out the truth and get to the bottom of it? How am I already being affected besides what I've already mentioned? Whatever the solution, I'm done with being an innocent bystander in a tumultuous situation.

Friends and school are great methods of escapism. See people, do work, make sure you can set yourself up for university so you can get out of what sounds like a warzone. Clearly, you don't have any issues with your English skills, so build from there. Writing's another fantastic way of escaping your surroundings; if you develop an alcohol addiction you could become the next Charles Bukowski (on the record, I don't endorse this idea). With regards to your other subjects, there's only one way to understand how things work which is to apply them to real-world situations. Hit me up via PM if you're worried about Maths or Physics or whatever; I'm not entirely shite at either of those so I can possibly help out there.

You can't do anything to help your parents; it's for them to sort. If you're really worried, get yourself a part-time job just so you got some dolla in your pocket. Get a savings or bank account and portion your wage up so you have some money to spend and some saved for something big like a car or for university. However, don't sacrifice your social life for that. You're still young; you do not have to worry about that stuff really for another couple of years. Remember that no matter how shite things might be, life can only really get better. Surround yourself with people who make you happy.

Ataxia wrote:

go_Rubens wrote:Well, talk about days not going well, that explains my last 5 weeks bar the holiday period. Hell, it all started 2 years ago. Today was mostly getting loads of crap to complete; thank goodness I got most of it done already as exams are coming up. But my life at home has sucked to the point that I'm driven to want to leave, because my parents are in a scene of endless fighting about the shape of the house, financial stuff, employment (which there is a lack of), and just a ton of issues in general. Somehow, I remain in a somewhat okay condition mentally, but mostly being confined to my room in a state of staying in my safe haven thanks to the tension in the household (something I never knew about until my mom explained it) is just not something I want. Overall, talk about a rough patch, but things are going too far. My dad's already been kicked out once for not helping out financially...

I mustn't ramble on much longer with the rant, I'm already frustrated enough with things from lackluster school grades (excpected to get straight As, but that's well out the window thanks to not understanding shite being taught). I do have to wonder what would someone else do in my situation? As the only child, I'm on the receiving end of two different stories. However, it's these two stories tearing the life that I had so joyously lived for a great amount of time apart. How could I help resolve the stupidity I've had to experience for way too long? How am I to figure out the truth and get to the bottom of it? How am I already being affected besides what I've already mentioned? Whatever the solution, I'm done with being an innocent bystander in a tumultuous situation.

Friends and school are great methods of escapism. See people, do work, make sure you can set yourself up for university so you can get out of what sounds like a warzone. Clearly, you don't have any issues with your English skills, so build from there. Writing's another fantastic way of escaping your surroundings; if you develop an alcohol addiction you could become the next Charles Bukowski (on the record, I don't endorse this idea). With regards to your other subjects, there's only one way to understand how things work which is to apply them to real-world situations. Hit me up via PM if you're worried about Maths or Physics or whatever; I'm not entirely shite at either of those so I can possibly help out there.

You can't do anything to help your parents; it's for them to sort. If you're really worried, get yourself a part-time job just so you got some dolla in your pocket. Get a savings or bank account and portion your wage up so you have some money to spend and some saved for something big like a car or for university. However, don't sacrifice your social life for that. You're still young; you do not have to worry about that stuff really for another couple of years. Remember that no matter how shite things might be, life can only really get better. Surround yourself with people who make you happy.

That's interesting, as oddly enough my parents come to me for suggestions as to how to deal with one another. Well, no wonder it's for them to sort out, as I haven't been able to do anything about that. My biggest problem in terms of school is that I'm perfectly capable of straight As, but I've found it difficult to focus and stay motivated. Perhaps a result of being involved in a lot of skirmishes, I suppose. I've been willing to be patient for the future to arrive. To be honest, I am running out of it. I just have to take it day by day, I guess.

My mom has indeed suggested to me to find some sort of income just to get my dad off his ass. I'm really going to have to look into that soon. Not sure what the youngest allowed age it is to work in Pennsylvania; I'm only 14. However, I'd be very inteigued as to what's out there for someone of my age. Thanks for the advice Ataxia!

Uhh.

Is this a bad time to admit that I made it all up?

I just wanted to post something funny to celebrate the reopening of the Rantbox. I can see how it's not funny if you take it as real.

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Uhh.

Is this a bad time to admit that I made it all up?

I just wanted to post something funny to celebrate the reopening of the Rantbox. I can see how it's not funny if you take it as real.

I had a feeling it was fake. I was thinking "This guy's the same age as me and has an office job? No wonder so many people from my country are moving to the States!"

UgncreativeUsergname wrote:Uhh.

Is this a bad time to admit that I made it all up?

I just wanted to post something funny to celebrate the reopening of the Rantbox. I can see how it's not funny if you take it as real.

Was I the only one that read it from the point of view as if you were a woman?

Frogfoot9013 wrote:

go_Rubens wrote:Well, talk about days not going well, that explains my last 5 weeks bar the holiday period. Hell, it all started 2 years ago. Today was mostly getting loads of crap to complete; thank goodness I got most of it done already as exams are coming up. But my life at home has sucked to the point that I'm driven to want to leave, because my parents are in a scene of endless fighting about the shape of the house, financial stuff, employment (which there is a lack of), and just a ton of issues in general. Somehow, I remain in a somewhat okay condition mentally, but mostly being confined to my room in a state of staying in my safe haven thanks to the tension in the household (something I never knew about until my mom explained it) is just not something I want. Overall, talk about a rough patch, but things are going too far. My dad's already been kicked out once for not helping out financially...

I mustn't ramble on much longer with the rant, I'm already frustrated enough with things from lackluster school grades (excpected to get straight As, but that's well out the window thanks to not understanding shite being taught). I do have to wonder what would someone else do in my situation? As the only child, I'm on the receiving end of two different stories. However, it's these two stories tearing the life that I had so joyously lived for a great amount of time apart. How could I help resolve the stupidity I've had to experience for way too long? How am I to figure out the truth and get to the bottom of it? How am I already being affected besides what I've already mentioned? Whatever the solution, I'm done with being an innocent bystander in a tumultuous situation.

I know some people in situations that somewhat resemble yours, although I won't say that it makes me able to fully understand your situation. At least you have been able to keep in an okay mental condition, if you lose hope, it's fairly self-explanatory that things will not improve for you. All I can really do is say I just hope things get better for you, I don't want to see more people having their lives made into a mess due to turbulent family life; I've seen it happen all too many times in my area...

Thanks man! I certainly haven't lost hope, as I realize that's what'll bring me down if I do lose hope. I think when I'm at the age of living on my own I'll be much better off. I will do everthing I can to ensure that my ambitious future becomes a reality. What I'll actually do for a job to make money to get myself to canoe slalom races if I am to become an elite paddler, that's still up for question. Hell, I might not have started very early, which is a disadvantage in this case, but I'd consider footballing. If I try to do football, I'll see how good I get. Hopefully at least Yeovil levels!