Grand Prix Rejects

Enforcer wrote:Now I think I know why no one took him up in 1983.

As far as I know, there have been 3 Irish drivers in the last 30 years...

two of them won the Katacesaris Award (Daly and Firman)
...and the other (Byrne) in the early eighties ('82?) scored a 100% crash percentage with two accidents in two races

lol

LucaPacchiarini wrote:

Enforcer wrote:Now I think I know why no one took him up in 1983.

As far as I know, there have been 3 Irish drivers in the last 30 years...

two of them won the Katacesaris Award (Daly and Firman)
...and the other (Byrne) in the early eighties ('82?) scored a 100% crash percentage with two accidents in two races

lol

Yep. Spot one. Though Firman's nationality is a bit debatable, but we'll claim him if he brings us such prestigious award as the Katecesaris!

KATACESARIS AWARD 2010

BAHRAIN GP
Sakhir Track


1 Karun Chandhok (Hispania)

Hit a bump and flew off track. The Indian driver takes the lead of the Katacesaris Award.

It's now time for a blast from the past! It was Niki Lauda's first full year, but who's going to take the...

1972 Katacesaris Award

With Fittipaldi taking the championship with a clear advantage from Jackie Stewart, the question is: who is the world champion of crashing? In Argentine, to open the season, Soler-Roig takes a lead for BRM, which he wasn't able to defend in the following GP, where he wasn't even on the grid. For race three, Soler-Roig is back for a last time and made perfect use of this opportunity, giving him a 100 % ratio in the Katacesaris Award. But three other drivers tried their best, among them the legendary Jackie Stewart. Monaco being the classic race for this award, seven drivers left their mark, but still, noone challenges the leader. But Ferrari prooved their desire to win everything at the Belgian GP, Regazzoni finally equaling the score with Soler-Roig. Helmut Marko made a controversial case in an otherwise uneventful French grand prix by getting partially blinded, but seeing as it didn't involve crashing, no points were given. Silverstone saw a third driver joining first place, Nanni Galli showed his skill by spinning off on lap 9. Normally a true cause of anarchy, the infamous Nordschleife failed to deliver, only Pescarolo DNF'd due to crashing. Stewart wanted to further his score, but he crashed "too late". Two races later, a single leader has been established. Failing to finish in front of the Tifosi, Regazzoni succeded in taking the lead. And with only "crash debutants" in the following race, the brawl for the Award has been decided, Regazzoni winning it for 1972!

- Top 5
1.: Clay Regazzoni - Ferrari - 3
2.: Alex Soler-Roig - BRM - 2
2.: Nanni Galli - Tecno - 2
2.: Henri Pescarolo - March-Ford - 2
+ 15 drivers with 1 point

Seeing as this thread hasn't posted the decisive results yet, it is my task to see who gets the honor of being the first "King Of Accidents", please give it up for the:

1950 Katacesaris Award

The first season of F1 provided lots of potential for this competition, but surprisingly failed to deliver on it's debut in Silverstone. Yes, that's right, no driver-induced DNFs in F1's first race ever. But seeing as fans must've been disappointed, Monaco sure offered a nice compensation, with 10 drivers leaving their mark and Piàn being too soon for it. The infamous Indy 500 only made Jackie Holmes joining the fun and nobody dares to make a second point back on European mainland (in Bremgarten bei Bern). And surprisingly, after Giraud-Cabantous and Eugène Martin joined the party in Switzerland, no crashed were in order until the end of the season, leaving this award a 13 way tie (a horrible thing to wear to a suit)!

Yves Giraud-Cabantous - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Eugène Martin - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Jackie Holmes - Olson-Offenhauser - 1
José Froilán González - Maserati - 1
Giuseppe Farina - Alfa Romeo - 1
Luigi Fagioli - Alfa Romeo - 1
Louis Rosier - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Robert Manzon - Simca-Gordini - 1
Toulo de Graffenried - Maserati - 1
Maurice Trintignant - Simca-Gordini - 1
Cuth Harrison - ERA - 1
Franco Rol - Maserati - 1
Harry Schell - Cooper-JAP - 1

Klon wrote:leaving this award a 13 way tie (a horrible thing to wear to a suit)!

excellent, mate

I'll update the results in the first post

Klon wrote:Seeing as this thread hasn't posted the decisive results yet, it is my task to see who gets the honor of being the first "King Of Accidents", please give it up for the:

1950 Katacesaris Award

The first season of F1 provided lots of potential for this competition, but surprisingly failed to deliver on it's debut in Silverstone. Yes, that's right, no driver-induced DNFs in F1's first race ever. But seeing as fans must've been disappointed, Monaco sure offered a nice compensation, with 10 drivers leaving their mark and Piàn being too soon for it. The infamous Indy 500 only made Jackie Holmes joining the fun and nobody dares to make a second point back on European mainland (in Bremgarten bei Bern). And surprisingly, after Giraud-Cabantous and Eugène Martin joined the party in Switzerland, no crashed were in order until the end of the season, leaving this award a 13 way tie (a horrible thing to wear to a suit)!

Yves Giraud-Cabantous - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Eugène Martin - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Jackie Holmes - Olson-Offenhauser - 1
José Froilán González - Maserati - 1
Giuseppe Farina - Alfa Romeo - 1
Luigi Fagioli - Alfa Romeo - 1
Louis Rosier - Talbot-Lago-Talbot - 1
Robert Manzon - Simca-Gordini - 1
Toulo de Graffenried - Maserati - 1
Maurice Trintignant - Simca-Gordini - 1
Cuth Harrison - ERA - 1
Franco Rol - Maserati - 1
Harry Schell - Cooper-JAP - 1

I've done this myself up into 1960 though-you'll gonna find a lot of ties. Give the win to the earliest to crash.

anyone has the time to do the 70's?

LucaPacchiarini wrote:KATACESARIS AWARD 2010

BAHRAIN GP
Sakhir Track


1 Karun Chandhok (Hispania)

Hit a bump and flew off track. The Indian driver takes the lead of the Katacesaris Award.

Luca, how about splitting this thread and bringing the 2010 edition into the Paul Stoddart Memorial Forum?

isnt that a moderator job?

LucaPacchiarini wrote:isnt that a moderator job?

I thought about doing it myself, but then realised you'll probably want to write a small text explaining it.

CarlosFerreira wrote:

LucaPacchiarini wrote:isnt that a moderator job?

I thought about doing it myself, but then realised you'll probably want to write a small text explaining it.

All I ever do is delete spam. I'm too lazy to move or merge topics. This forum does a good job of managing itself.

I just noticed that the best thing about this topic is that Katayama and De Cesaris were teammates for Tyrrell in 1993

redbulljack14 wrote:I just noticed that the best thing about this topic is that Katayama and De Cesaris were teammates for Tyrrell in 1993

but they couldnt beat Suzuki that year... he scored an impressive 8 crashes

We should do another Awards to those drivers with the most finishes just out of the points in one season. I wonder what the name could be??

Aerond wrote:We should do another Awards to those drivers with the most finishes just out of the points in one season. I wonder what the name could be??

For example, in 1994 the award would be shared by Herbert and Frentzen, who managed to finish 3 times each in 7th position

Aerond wrote:

Aerond wrote:We should do another Awards to those drivers with the most finishes just out of the points in one season. I wonder what the name could be??

For example, in 1994 the award would be shared by Herbert and Frentzen, who managed to finish 3 times each in 7th position

In 1995 it would go to Herbert, for finishing again 3 times in 7th position (wow, we have an expert in missing points here!!!)

Aerond wrote:

Aerond wrote:

Aerond wrote:We should do another Awards to those drivers with the most finishes just out of the points in one season. I wonder what the name could be??

For example, in 1994 the award would be shared by Herbert and Frentzen, who managed to finish 3 times each in 7th position

In 1995 it would go to Herbert, for finishing again 3 times in 7th position (wow, we have an expert in missing points here!!!)

Don't mind me, but wouldn't it be wiser to make a new thread than to triple post?

Klon wrote:
Don't mind me, but wouldn't it be wiser to make a new thread than to triple post?

Yeah, sorry about that, I just got excited!

Aerond wrote:In 1995 it would go to Herbert, for finishing again 3 times in 7th position (wow, we have an expert in missing points here!!!)

That's pretty crap, especially when he was in the car that won the Constructors Championship by around 30 points.

Herbert still holds a record of most 7th places in his career. And he retired before they started to award points for that...

Herbert 17 (all outside points)
Coulthard 16 (7 outside, 9 inside points)
Trulli 15 (5 outside, 10 inside points)
Bonnier 13 (all outside points)
Barrichello 13 (5 outside, 8 inside points)
Webber 13 (all on points)

Trulli had also unofficial 7th place at Indianapolis 2005.

Regarding this crash category, I had some statistics where driver got points for a collision where at least one driver retired (not necessarily the driver himself) Spins or crashes on own didn't count.