Grand Prix Rejects

Wizzie wrote:Constantinople:
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Rosberg
6. Kubica
7. Massa
8. Alonso

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Webber: 36 points
2. Button: 35 points
3. Hamilton: 34 points
4. Vettel: 32 points
5. Alonso: 32 points
6. Kubica: 27 points
7. Massa: 26 points
8. Rosberg: 26 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 7 points
11. Liuzzi: 2 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Barrichello: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 69 points
2. Red Bull: 68 points
3. Ferrari: 58 points
4. Mercedes: 39 points
5. Renault: 29 points
6. Force India: 9 points
7. Williams: 1 point

Glad this thread is here, as there seems to be quite a bit of BS flying around that standings are so close this year because of the new points system. It's nothing to do with that - we would have a close championship this year whatever system was in use - 7 rounds in and no one has won more than 2...

Eight drivers within a win of the lead. Epic.

CarlosFerreira wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Constantinople

I got in very slightly choppy waters with a Turkish friend, when she realised most my tweets this weekend talked about "Istambul, not Constantinople". She didn't know that absolute classic of camp culture...

That song is camp? Is it OK for a straight man to really like camp songs?

noisebox wrote:
Glad this thread is here, as there seems to be quite a bit of BS flying around that standings are so close this year because of the new points system. It's nothing to do with that - we would have a close championship this year whatever system was in use - 7 rounds in and no one has won more than 2...

It's actually less close now than it would have been - under the current points system, 5 drivers are within 25 points (the number of points awared for a win); under the old system, 8 drivers are within 10 points (the number available for a win)...

dr-baker wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Constantinople

I got in very slightly choppy waters with a Turkish friend, when she realised most my tweets this weekend talked about "Istambul, not Constantinople". She didn't know that absolute classic of camp culture...

That song is camp? Is it OK for a straight man to really like camp songs?

It is. 1980's synthpop is all the rage again, despite the lycra and fake jewelry.

CarlosFerreira wrote:
It is. 1980's synthpop is all the rage again, despite the lycra and fake jewelry.

Heck, I went out and bought the Ministry of Sound 80s Anthems 3 CD Box just the other week. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark own!

CarlosFerreira wrote:

dr-baker wrote:That song is camp? Is it OK for a straight man to really like camp songs?

It is. 1980's synthpop is all the rage again, despite the lycra and fake jewelry.

Phew. Thank HWNSNBM for that.

watka wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:
It is. 1980's synthpop is all the rage again, despite the lycra and fake jewelry.

Heck, I went out and bought the Ministry of Sound 80s Anthems 3 CD Box just the other week. Orchestral Manoeuvres in the Dark own!

dr-baker wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:

dr-baker wrote:That song is camp? Is it OK for a straight man to really like camp songs?

It is. 1980's synthpop is all the rage again, despite the lycra and fake jewelry.

Phew. Thank HWNSNBM for that.

One word for both you guys: Alphaville.

CarlosFerreira wrote:
One word for both you guys: Alphaville.

That goodness you didn't say Village People or Pet Shop Boys...

And you made me go and download "Big In Japan" as a result...

Sorry to tread on Aerond's toes, but it was bothering me that we don't have an up to date 2002 points system standings. Also this thread has gone way off topic so i'm going to attempt to drag it back.

Constantinople:
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Webber
4. Schumacher
5. Rosberg
6. Kubica

Drivers Championship:
1. Webber - 30
2. Button - 28
3= Vettel - 24
3= Hamilton - 24
5. Alonso - 23
6. Kubica - 16
7= Massa - 14
7= Rosberg - 14
9. Schumacher - 7
10. Sutil - 2

Constructor's Championship:
1. Red Bull - 54
2. McLaren - 52
3. Ferrari - 37
4. Mercedes - 21
5. Renault - 16
6. Force India - 2

Retirements aren't costing RBR quite as much thanks to McLarens mediocre (7th-8th) finishing positions at some races.

dr-baker wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:
One word for both you guys: Alphaville.

That goodness you didn't say Village People or Pet Shop Boys...

And you made me go and download "Big In Japan" as a result...

"A Victory of Love", first song in the album. Brilliant!

IdeFan wrote:Sorry to tread on Aerond's toes, but it was bothering me that we don't have an up to date 2002 points system standings. Also this thread has gone way off topic so i'm going to attempt to drag it back.

I´ve been a bit busy so I guess is alright!

IdeFan wrote:7= Rosberg - 14
9. Schumacher - 7

4. Mercedes - 19

14 + 7 does NOT equal 19 mate

Wizzie wrote:

IdeFan wrote:7= Rosberg - 14
9. Schumacher - 7

4. Mercedes - 19

14 + 7 does NOT equal 19 mate

Indeed, reject of the thread award.

dr-baker wrote:

noisebox wrote:Glad this thread is here, as there seems to be quite a bit of BS flying around that standings are so close this year because of the new points system. It's nothing to do with that - we would have a close championship this year whatever system was in use - 7 rounds in and no one has won more than 2...

It's actually less close now than it would have been - under the current points system, 5 drivers are within 25 points (the number of points awared for a win); under the old system, 8 drivers are within 10 points (the number available for a win)...

Yes, its extremely annoying when people praise the new points system like that. You shouldn't need to know much maths to realise that it is the ratios not the points differences which are important in a points system.

Canada:
1. Hamilton
2. Button
3. Alonso
4. Vettel
5. Webber
6. Rosberg
7. Kubica
8. Buemi

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 44 points
2. Button: 43 points
3. Webber: 40 points
4. Alonso: 38 points
5. Vettel: 37 points
6. Kubica: 29 points
7. Rosberg: 29 points
8. Massa: 26 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 7 points
11. Liuzzi: 2 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Barrichello: 1 point
14. Buemi: 1 points

Teams:
1. McLaren: 87 points
2. Red Bull: 77 points
3. Ferrari: 64 points
4. Mercedes: 42 points
5. Renault: 31 points
6. Force India: 9 points
7. Toro Rosso: 1 point
8. Williams: 1 point

Canada - 91-02 points system (10-6-4-3-2-1)

Drivers:
1. Button: 34 points, 2 wins, 2 seconds
2. Hamilton: 34 points, 2 wins, 1 second
3. Webber: 32 points
4. Vettel and Alonso: 27 points and the same kind of finishes for both
6. Kubica: 16 points
7. Rosberg: 15 points
8. Massa: 14 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Sutil: 2 points

Teams:
1. McLaren: 68 points
2. RBR: 59 points
3. Ferrari: 41 points
4. Mercedes GP: 22 points
5. Renault: 16 points
6. Force 1ndia: 2 points

Canada: Cynon Shenanigans Point System

34-26-20-14-10-8-6-4-2-1, with 1 point for pole. I may consider another point for Fastest lap.

Pole Points:
Webber - 4
Vettel - 3
Hamilton - 1

So, despite the size of some of the gaps, keep in mind that this system has different ratios than the current F1 points system, putting a greater emphasis on getting on the podium, and that the most points a driver can gain or lose is 35 (and, of course, most a constructor can gain or lose would be 51). I might try applying this to the 2009 season... hmmm...

Drivers & Constructors: (With Pole Points added)

Hamilton - 141
Button - 140
Webber - 138
Alonso - 120
Vettel - 119
Kubica - 88
Rosberg - 84
Massa - 82
Schumacher - 38 (Woa big gap)
Sutil - 23
Liuzzi - 11
Petrov - 8
Barrichello - 7
Buemi - 4
Alguersuari - 3
Kobayashi - 1
Hulkenberg - 1

Duckegg for everyone else.

Constructors:

McLaren - 281
Red Bull - 257
Ferrari - 202
Mercedes - 122
Renault - 96
Force1ndia - 34
Williams - 8
Toro Rosso - 7
Sauber - 1
HRT - Duckegg
Virgin - Duckegg
Lotus - Duckegg

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I would implement the TM Master Cup series points system (this is my Youtube show... it's hybrid NASCAR/WTCC/F1 madness) or the NASCAR points system and see what kind of havoc that would wreak, except both systems add points based on leading laps and who led the most, and I don't know those off the top of my head.

Wikipedia includes a graphic for showing the lap leaders of each GP. It's at the bottom of the race details page, and you have to click 'show' to get it to appear.

Valencia:
1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Barrichello
5. Kubica
6. Sutil
7. Kobayashi
8. Alonso

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 52 points
2. Button: 49 points
3. Vettel: 47 points
4. Webber: 40 points
5. Alonso: 39 points
6. Kubica: 33 points
7. Rosberg: 29 points
8. Massa: 26 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 10 points
11. Barrichello: 6 points
12. Liuzzi: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 2 points
14. Petrov: 2 points
15. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 101 points
2. Red Bull: 87 points
3. Ferrari: 65 points
4. Mercedes: 42 points
5. Renault: 35 points
6. Force India: 12 points
7. Williams: 6 points
8. Sauber: 2 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

91-02;

Valencia:

1. Vettel
2. Hamilton
3. Button
4. Barrichello
5. Kubica
6. Sutil

Barrichello scores for the first time!

1. Hamilton: 40 points
2. Button: 38 points
3. Vettel: 37 points
4. Webber: 32
5. Alonso: 27 points
6. Kubica: 18 points
7. Rosberg: 15 points
8. Massa: 14 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 3 points
=. Sutil: 3 points

Constructors

1.McLaren -- 78p
2.Red bull -- 69p
3.Ferrari -- 41p
4.Mercedes -- 22p
5.Renault -- 18p
6.Williams -- 3p
= Force India -- 3p

A detailed .HTML file showing what the points would be like if F1 used NASCAR's points system. The most a driver can gain or lose with 24 cars in the field is 99 points...

So, it's thus...

185-170-165-160-155-150-146-142-138-134-130-127-124-121-118-115-112-109-106-103-100-97-94-91, with 5 points for leading a lap and 5 more for leading the most.

The Earnings tab on the far right is how many points the driver accumulated through the Cynon Shenanigans Points System.

I will update this HTML file as the season progresses. I might also see what happens if NASCAR's ridiculous "Chase for the Cup" system (that every NASCAR fan except my dad HATES) gets implemented, and see how much havoc that wreaks on the points.

Cynon wrote:A detailed .HTML file showing what the points would be like if F1 used NASCAR's points system. The most a driver can gain or lose with 24 cars in the field is 99 points...

So, it's thus...

185-170-165-160-155-150-146-142-138-134-130-127-124-121-118-115-112-109-106-103-100-97-94-91, with 5 points for leading a lap and 5 more for leading the most.

The Earnings tab on the far right is how many points the driver accumulated through the Cynon Shenanigans Points System.

I will update this HTML file as the season progresses. I might also see what happens if NASCAR's ridiculous "Chase for the Cup" system (that every NASCAR fan except my dad HATES) gets implemented, and see how much havoc that wreaks on the points.

I don't like those systems where everyone gets points. Regarding chase, I know that NASCAR has it as 10/36. Considering that current F1 season has 19 races, 5 races should be equivalent for that?

Chandhok is challenging the Saubers in the championship with this system!!

Although at least Sutil is ahead of Schumacher in this system, where he deserves to be.

Bleu wrote:

Cynon wrote:A detailed .HTML file showing what the points would be like if F1 used NASCAR's points system. The most a driver can gain or lose with 24 cars in the field is 99 points...

So, it's thus...

185-170-165-160-155-150-146-142-138-134-130-127-124-121-118-115-112-109-106-103-100-97-94-91, with 5 points for leading a lap and 5 more for leading the most.

The Earnings tab on the far right is how many points the driver accumulated through the Cynon Shenanigans Points System.

I will update this HTML file as the season progresses. I might also see what happens if NASCAR's ridiculous "Chase for the Cup" system (that every NASCAR fan except my dad HATES) gets implemented, and see how much havoc that wreaks on the points.

I don't like those systems where everyone gets points. Regarding chase, I know that NASCAR has it as 10/36. Considering that current F1 season has 19 races, 5 races should be equivalent for that?

That's what I was thinking. Last 5 races to try out the "Chase" for F1, and make all the F1 fans realize how damn lucky they are to NOT have it.

Valencia:
1. Webber
2. Hamilton
3. Rosberg
4. Button
5. Barrichello
6. Kobayashi
7. Vettel
8. Sutil

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 60 points
2. Button: 54 points
3. Webber: 50 points
4. Vettel: 49 points
5. Alonso: 39 points
6. Rosberg: 35 points
7. Kubica: 33 points
8. Massa: 26 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 11 points
11. Barrichello: 10 points
12. Kobayashi: 5 points
13. Liuzzi: 2 points
14. Petrov: 2 points
15. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 114 points
2. Red Bull: 99 points
3. Ferrari: 65 points
4. Mercedes: 48 points
5. Renault: 35 points
6. Force India: 13 points
7. Williams: 10 points
8. Sauber: 5 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

91-02;

Great Britain:

1. Webber
2. Hamilton
3. Rosberg
4. Button
5. Barrichello
6. Kobayashi

First point for Sauber!!


1. Hamilton: 46 points
2. Webber: 42 points
3. Button: 41 points
4. Vettel: 37 points
5. Alonso: 27 points
6. Rosberg: 19 points
7. Kubica: 18 points
8. Massa: 14 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 5 points
11. Sutil: 3 points
12. Kobayashi: 1 point

Constructors

1.McLaren -- 87p
2.Red bull -- 79p
3.Ferrari -- 41p
4.Mercedes -- 26p
5.Renault -- 18p
6.Williams -- 5p
7.Force India -- 3p
8.Sauber -- 1p

Hockenheim:
1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Hamilton
5. Button
6. Webber
7. Kubica
8. Rosberg

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 65 points
2. Button: 58 points
3. Vettel: 55 points
4. Webber: 53 points
5. Alonso: 49 points
6. Rosberg: 36 points
7. Kubica: 35 points
8. Massa: 34 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 11 points
11. Barrichello: 10 points
12. Kobayashi: 5 points
13. Liuzzi: 2 points
14. Petrov: 2 points
15. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 123 points
2. Red Bull: 108 points
3. Ferrari: 83 points
4. Mercedes: 49 points
5. Renault: 37 points
6. Force India: 13 points
7. Williams: 10 points
8. Sauber: 5 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

91-02

Germany

1. Alonso
2. Massa
3. Vettel
4. Hamilton
5. Button
6. Webber

1. Hamilton: 49 points
2. Webber: 43 points - Tie-breaker: Three wins
3. Button: 43 points - Two wins
4. Vettel: 41 points
5. Alonso: 37 points
6. Massa: 20 points
7. Rosberg: 19 points
8. Kubica: 18 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 5 points
11. Sutil: 3 points
12. Kobayashi: 1 point

Constructors

1. McLaren -- 92
2. Red Bull -- 84
3. Ferrari -- 57
4. Mercedes -- 26
5. Renault -- 18
6. Williams -- 5
7. Force India -- 3
8. Sauber -- 1

Crap... this may be a bit late but here it is:
Hungary:
1. Webber
2. Alonso
3. Vettel
4. Massa
5. Petrov
6. Hulkenberg
7. De La Rosa
8. Button

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 65 points (Note that he keeps the lead in this situation... deservedly so in my opinion because Red Bull have been shooting themselves in the foot too much)
2. Webber: 63 points
3. Vettel: 61 points
4. Button: 59 points
5. Alonso: 57 points
6. Massa: 39 points
7. Rosberg: 36 points
8. Kubica: 35 points
9. Schumacher: 13 points
10. Sutil: 11 points
11. Barrichello: 10 points
12. Petrov: 6 points
13. Kobayashi: 5 points
14. Hulkenberg: 3 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. Red Bull: 124 points (Red Bull ahead by the virtue of more wins)
2. McLaren: 124 points
3. Ferrari: 96 points
4. Mercedes: 49 points
5. Renault: 41 points
6. Williams: 13 points (Willams ahead by the virtue of Barry's 4th place at Valencia)
7. Force India: 13 points
8. Sauber: 7 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

Here's 91-02 then!

91-02

Hungary

1. Webber
2. Alonso
3. Vettel
4. Massa
5. Petrov
6. Hülkenberg

1. Webber: 53 points
2. Hamilton: 49 points
3. Vettel: 45 points
4. Button: 43 points - Tie-breaker: 2 5th places
5. Alonso: 43 points - No 5th places
6. Massa: 23 points
7. Rosberg: 19 points
8. Kubica: 18 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 5 points
11. Sutil: 3 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 point - Tie-breaker: 7th place
14. Hülkenberg: 1 point - No 7th places

Constructors

1. Red Bull -- 98
2. McLaren -- 92
3. Ferrari -- 66
4. Mercedes -- 26
5. Renault -- 20
6. Williams -- 6
7. Force India -- 3
8. Sauber -- 1

Belgium:
1. Hamilton
2. Webber
3. Kubica
4. Massa
5. Sutil
6. Rosberg
7. Schumacher
8. Kobayashi

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 75 points
2. Webber: 71 points
3. Vettel: 61 points
4. Button: 59 points
5. Alonso: 57 points
6. Massa: 43 points
7. Kubica: 41 points
8. Rosberg: 39 points
9. Schumacher: 15 points (Schumacher ahead on countback)
10. Sutil: 15 points
11. Barrichello: 10 points
12. Petrov: 6 points (Petrov ahead on countback)
13. Kobayashi: 6 points
14. Hulkenberg: 3 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 134 points
2. Red Bull: 132 points
3. Ferrari: 101 points
4. Mercedes: 53 points
5. Renault: 47 points
6. Force India: 17 points
7. Williams: 13 points
8. Sauber: 8 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

I did the math and, for the NASCAR points system, there is still one race left before the Chase for the... F1 world championship... begins. I rounded up because it came to 13.72 races. Liuzzi and Petrov are fighting for 12th place, a measly three points separate them, with Alguersuari still looking at a Chase berth. So the NASCAR "Chase" system would start at Singapore!

But of special note, the Cynon Shenanigans Point System would show Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton tied for the lead.

F1 Championship if it used the NASCAR Points System (Current). The Earnings tab on the far right is the Cynon Shenanigans Point System.

91-02 system

Spa

1. Hamilton
2. Webber
3. Kubica
4. Massa
5. Sutil
6. Rosberg

Here's 91-02 then!

1. Webber: 59 points - 4 wins
2. Hamilton: 59 points - 3 wins
3. Vettel: 45 points
4. Button: 43 points - Tie-breaker: 2 5th places
5. Alonso: 43 points - No 5th places
6. Massa: 26 points
7. Kubica: 22 points
8. Rosberg: 20 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 5 points - 4th place
11. Sutil: 5 points - No 4th places
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 point - Tie-breaker: 7th place
14. Hülkenberg: 1 point - No 7th places

Constructors

1. Red Bull -- 104
2. McLaren -- 102
3. Ferrari -- 69
4. Mercedes -- 27
5. Renault -- 24
6. Williams -- 6
7. Force India -- 5
8. Sauber -- 1

Cynon wrote:I did the math and, for the NASCAR points system, there is still one race left before the Chase for the... F1 world championship... begins. I rounded up because it came to 13.72 races. Liuzzi and Petrov are fighting for 12th place, a measly three points separate them, with Alguersuari still looking at a Chase berth. So the NASCAR "Chase" system would start at Singapore!

But of special note, the Cynon Shenanigans Point System would show Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton tied for the lead.

F1 Championship if it used the NASCAR Points System (Current). The Earnings tab on the far right is the Cynon Shenanigans Point System.

Under the current NASCAR points system, Sakon Yamamoto scores points.
Under your system, he does not.
Therefore, your system is better than the real NASCAR system.

Waris wrote:

Cynon wrote:I did the math and, for the NASCAR points system, there is still one race left before the Chase for the... F1 world championship... begins. I rounded up because it came to 13.72 races. Liuzzi and Petrov are fighting for 12th place, a measly three points separate them, with Alguersuari still looking at a Chase berth. So the NASCAR "Chase" system would start at Singapore!

But of special note, the Cynon Shenanigans Point System would show Mark Webber and Lewis Hamilton tied for the lead.

F1 Championship if it used the NASCAR Points System (Current). The Earnings tab on the far right is the Cynon Shenanigans Point System.

Under the current NASCAR points system, Sakon Yamamoto scores points.
Under your system, he does not.
Therefore, your system is better than the real NASCAR system.

Everyone gets points in NASCAR.*


*Except Carl Long

03-09 pointsystem

1. Alonso
2. Button
3. Massa
4. Vettel
5. Rosberg
6. Webber
7. Hülkenberg
8. Kubica

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Hamilton: 75 points
2. Webber: 74 points
3. Alonso: 67 points - 3 wins
4. Button: 67 points - 2 wins
5. Vettel: 66 points
6. Massa: 49 points
7. Rosberg: 43 points
8. Kubica: 42 points
9. Schumacher: 15 points (Schumacher ahead on countback)
10. Sutil: 15 points
11. Barrichello: 10 points
12. Petrov: 6 points (Petrov ahead on countback)
13. Kobayashi: 6 points
14. Hulkenberg: 5 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. McLaren: 142 points
2. Red Bull: 140 points
3. Ferrari: 117 points
4. Mercedes: 57 points
5. Renault: 48 points
6. Force India: 17 points
7. Williams: 13 points
8. Sauber: 8 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

91-02

1. Alonso
2. Button
3. Massa
4. Vettel
5. Rosberg
6. Webber

1. Webber: 60 points
2. Hamilton: 59 points - 3 wins
3. Alonso: 53 points
4. Button: 49 points
5. Vettel: 48 points
6. Massa: 30 points
7. Kubica: 22 points - 2nd place
8. Rosberg: 22 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 5 points - 4th place
11. Sutil: 5 points - No 4th places
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 point - Tie-breaker: 7th place
14. Hülkenberg: 1 point - No 7th places

Constructors

1. Red Bull -- 108 - more wins
2. McLaren -- 108
3. Ferrari -- 83
4. Mercedes -- 29
5. Renault -- 24
6. Williams -- 6
7. Force India -- 5
8. Sauber -- 1

Singapore.

03-09 pointsystem

1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Barrichello
7. Kubica
8. Hülkenberg

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Webber: 80 points
2. Alonso: 77 points
3. Hamilton: 75 points
4. Vettel: 74 points
5. Button: 72 points
6. Massa: 49 points
7. Rosberg: 47 points
8. Kubica: 44 points
9. Schumacher: 15 points - 4th place
10. Sutil: 15 points
11. Barrichello: 13 points
12. Petrov: 6 points (Petrov ahead on countback)
13. Kobayashi: 6 points
14. Hulkenberg: 6 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. Red Bull: 154 points
2. McLaren: 147 points
3. Ferrari: 126 points
4. Mercedes: 61 points
5. Renault: 50 points
6. Force India: 18 points
7. Williams: 17 points
8. Sauber: 8 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

91-02

1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Barrichello

1. Webber: 64 points
3. Alonso: 63 points
2. Hamilton: 59 points
5. Vettel: 54 points
4. Button: 52 points
6. Massa: 30 points
8. Rosberg: 24 points
7. Kubica: 22 points
9. Schumacher: 7 points
10. Barrichello: 6 points
11. Sutil: 5 points
12. Petrov: 2 points
13. Kobayashi: 1 point - Tie-breaker: 7th place
14. Hülkenberg: 1 point - No 7th places

Constructors

1. Red Bull -- 118
2. McLaren -- 111
3. Ferrari -- 93
4. Mercedes -- 31
5. Renault -- 25
6. Williams -- 6
7. Force India -- 5
8. Sauber -- 1

I'm going to take my job back and make a slight correction to the 03-09 standings:

Singapore:
1. Alonso
2. Vettel
3. Webber
4. Button
5. Rosberg
6. Barrichello
7. Kubica
8. Massa

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Webber: 80 points
2. Alonso: 77 points
3. Hamilton: 75 points
4. Vettel: 74 points
5. Button: 72 points
6. Massa: 50 points
7. Rosberg: 47 points
8. Kubica: 44 points
9. Schumacher: 15 points - 4th place
10. Sutil: 15 points
11. Barrichello: 13 points
12. Petrov: 6 points (Petrov ahead on countback)
13. Kobayashi: 6 points
14. Hulkenberg: 5 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point

Teams:
1. Red Bull: 154 points
2. McLaren: 147 points
3. Ferrari: 127 points
4. Mercedes: 61 points
5. Renault: 50 points
6. Williams: 18 points
7. Force India: 17 points
8. Sauber: 8 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point

Thanks, I wrote this between the Sutil and the Hulk penalty... next time I swear I will wait a day!

It feels good to be employed again

Anyways 2003-09 points system:

Japan:
1. Vettel
2. Webber
3. Alonso
4. Button
5. Hamilton
6. Schumacher
7. Kobayashi
8. Heidfeld

Standings:
Drivers:
1. Webber: 88 points
2. Vettel: 84 points
3. Alonso: 83 points
4. Hamilton: 79 points
5. Button: 77 points
6. Massa: 50 points
7. Rosberg: 47 points
8. Kubica: 44 points
9. Schumacher: 18 points
10. Sutil: 15 points
11. Barrichello: 13 points
12. Kobayashi: 8 points
13. Petrov: 6 points (Petrov ahead on countback)
14. Hulkenberg: 5 points
15. Liuzzi: 2 points
16. De La Rosa: 2 points
17. Buemi: 1 point
18. Heidfeld: 1 point

Teams:
1. Red Bull: 172 points
2. McLaren: 156 points
3. Ferrari: 133 points
4. Mercedes: 64 points
5. Renault: 50 points
6. Williams: 18 points
7. Force India: 17 points
8. Sauber: 11 points
9. Toro Rosso: 1 point