patrick wrote:the worst part was rob smedley's radio message afterwards. it was almost heartbreaking to hear
It was. Rob Smedley sounded positively dejected.
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patrick wrote:the worst part was rob smedley's radio message afterwards. it was almost heartbreaking to hear
ADx_Wales wrote:Smedley should resign if he's part of this fiasco.
Enforcer wrote:I'm actually not going for Ferrari Team Orders. As much as it screwed up the spectacle, and as much as I wanted Massa to win, I'm not going brand Ferrari rejectworthy for it, because the order makes sense given the Championship situation, and team orders are part of F1 and always have been. And we'd be nominating them ROTR if they'd said to Alonso "if you want to be ahead of him, pass him" and he'd ended up running into the back Massa trying to do exactly that.
Force India's disaster weekend wins it for me.
Enforcer wrote:I'm actually not going for Ferrari Team Orders. As much as it screwed up the spectacle, and as much as I wanted Massa to win, I'm not going brand Ferrari rejectworthy for it, because the order makes sense given the Championship situation, and team orders are part of F1 and always have been. Their only real mistake was to be so bloody well unsubtle about it. But to be perfectly honest, I'd rather see in broad daylight that one driver is favoured over the other rather than cloak and dagger behind the scenes.
And we'd be nominating them ROTR if they'd said to Alonso "if you want to be ahead of him, pass him" and he'd ended up running into the back Massa trying to do exactly that.
Force India's disaster weekend wins it for me.
WeirdKerr wrote:Enforcer wrote:I'm actually not going for Ferrari Team Orders. As much as it screwed up the spectacle, and as much as I wanted Massa to win, I'm not going brand Ferrari rejectworthy for it, because the order makes sense given the Championship situation, and team orders are part of F1 and always have been. And we'd be nominating them ROTR if they'd said to Alonso "if you want to be ahead of him, pass him" and he'd ended up running into the back Massa trying to do exactly that.
Force India's disaster weekend wins it for me.
Team Orders are banned and no matter what anyones says that was batpluggingly blatant use of team orders
DonTirri wrote:someone bomb the bathplug maranello off the face of the planet goddamnit
The Passenger wrote:DonTirri wrote:someone bomb the bathplug maranello off the face of the planet goddamnit
I nominate this comment for ROTR. Joke or not, that's just uncalled for.
The Passenger wrote:DonTirri wrote:someone bomb the bathplug maranello off the face of the planet goddamnit
I nominate this comment for ROTR. Joke or not, that's just uncalled for.
DemocalypseNow wrote: when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn.
ADx_Wales wrote:Eddie says they should be disqualified
David says team orders are part of the history of F1, when in 98 he ably bent over for McLaren at Melbourne.
Everyone is corruptable.
CarlosFerreira wrote:Yeah, he did screw up and he's overdriving. It's embarrassing he's only managed to qualify one place ahead of Schumacher, and 3 places ahead of the second Renault driver, Vitaly Whotshisname.
mario wrote:I'm wondering what the hell has been going on in this thread [...] it's turned into a bizarre detour into mythical flying horses and the sort of search engine results that CoopsII is going to have a very hard time explaining ...
DonTirri wrote:The Passenger wrote:DonTirri wrote:someone bomb the bathplug maranello off the face of the planet goddamnit
I nominate this comment for ROTR. Joke or not, that's just uncalled for.
No voi ny vittu, vetäppä vittu päähäs ja vihellä.
I've been watching Ferrari pull of these shittyass moves for 15 friggin years. I'm tired of them ruining the sport and thinking they are bigger than the sport. So if someone blows up maranello, i would cheer in joy.
DemocalypseNow wrote: when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn.
Dr. Helmut Marko wrote: Finally we have an Australian in the team who can start a race well and challenge Vettel.
rffp wrote:Besides their attitude of coding the team orders is borderline insulting and pathetic.
Ross Prawn wrote:I'd like to nominate the team who applied team orders which deprived the fans of a great race and meddled with the championship outcome. I am speaking of course of McClaren.
Jenson came out of his pit stop obviously quicker than Lewis and on better tyres. But he was obviously told to hold station behind Lewis. Remember THIS IS THE FIGHT FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEAD, aand they cruised round in formation with no sign of an overtaking move. Whats going on??
Ross Prawn wrote:I'd like to nominate the team who applied team orders which deprived the fans of a great race and meddled with the championship outcome. I am speaking of course of McClaren.
Jenson came out of his pit stop obviously quicker than Lewis and on better tyres. But he was obviously told to hold station behind Lewis. Remember THIS IS THE FIGHT FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEAD, aand they cruised round in formation with no sign of an overtaking move. Whats going on??
eytl wrote:I see Christian Horner has made a late bid for ROTR by taking a holier-than-thou position on the Ferrari situation.
Pot. Kettle. Black. Anyone?
Enforcer wrote:WeirdKerr wrote:Enforcer wrote:I'm actually not going for Ferrari Team Orders. As much as it screwed up the spectacle, and as much as I wanted Massa to win, I'm not going brand Ferrari rejectworthy for it, because the order makes sense given the Championship situation, and team orders are part of F1 and always have been. And we'd be nominating them ROTR if they'd said to Alonso "if you want to be ahead of him, pass him" and he'd ended up running into the back Massa trying to do exactly that.
Force India's disaster weekend wins it for me.
Team Orders are banned and no matter what anyones says that was batpluggingly blatant use of team orders
I've highlighted the important word, all the teams have been doing it on the sly for the last few years. McLaren-Mercedes suddenly being asked to 'fuel save' when running together in Turkey and the subsequent mini-kerfuffle about what they actually meant, would be a recent example.
I'm not going to have an extended argument about it, I just feel Ferrari's move is understandable, if unsportsmanlike.
Captain Hammer wrote:Ferrari. That was disgusting. Alonso was always going to catch Massa - they could have at least tried to make it look like a clean pass. They manipulate the race outcome, and now it seems they're trying to throw the book at Red Bull for flexible front wings.
Ross Prawn wrote:I'd like to nominate the team who applied team orders which deprived the fans of a great race and meddled with the championship outcome. I am speaking of course of McClaren.
Jenson came out of his pit stop obviously quicker than Lewis and on better tyres. But he was obviously told to hold station behind Lewis. Remember THIS IS THE FIGHT FOR THE CHAMPIONSHIP LEAD, aand they cruised round in formation with no sign of an overtaking move. Whats going on??
DemocalypseNow wrote: when eagleash of all people says you've gone too far about something you just know that's when to apply the brakes and do a U-turn.