Grand Prix Rejects

mario wrote:It reminds me of the film that Top Gear put together about Ayrton Senna - and it is actually quite well made, with quite a large number of drivers talking about him. Of course, Brundle featured, talking about Senna's F3 years, where they were showing footage of a very scary crash between Brundle and Senna. Basically, Senna threw his car down the inside of Brundle going into a very fast right hand corner, leaving Brundle no time to react. When the two finally came to rest, it finished with Senna's car on top of Brundle's, pressing down on his shoulder and pinning him in the cockpit of his car. And, of course, there was the 1990 Japanese GP, where, at the very least, it seems that Senna did not care if Prost ended up being injured.

And yet, Brundle pointed out the time when Senna famously stopped and helped Erik Comas escape from his car in 1992 at Spa - so we have the strange dichotomy of a man prepared to risk his own life to help save someone else, and yet was also prepared to risk his life, and potentially that of Prost as well, for his own personal benefit.

shinji wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

mario wrote:It reminds me of the film that Top Gear put together about Ayrton Senna - and it is actually quite well made, with quite a large number of drivers talking about him. Of course, Brundle featured, talking about Senna's F3 years, where they were showing footage of a very scary crash between Brundle and Senna. Basically, Senna threw his car down the inside of Brundle going into a very fast right hand corner, leaving Brundle no time to react. When the two finally came to rest, it finished with Senna's car on top of Brundle's, pressing down on his shoulder and pinning him in the cockpit of his car. And, of course, there was the 1990 Japanese GP, where, at the very least, it seems that Senna did not care if Prost ended up being injured.

And yet, Brundle pointed out the time when Senna famously stopped and helped Erik Comas escape from his car in 1992 at Spa - so we have the strange dichotomy of a man prepared to risk his own life to help save someone else, and yet was also prepared to risk his life, and potentially that of Prost as well, for his own personal benefit.

Senna was a man who could've done everything (except commiting murderings) to win, but what he did to Prost was mainly an act of revenge after what Prost did to him last year, as well as the decision of denying him the right to choose the side where he would start the race (he was the poleman), probably because he thought Balestre wanted Prost to win the championship. However, his rock-solid human values meant if he had to risk his live to save anyone's, he wouldn't have hesitated to do so, even if it was Prost's.

So what you're saying is, if Prost had been seriously injured in Senna's intentional crash, Senna would have gone to try and save him?

Phoenix wrote:

shinji wrote:

So what you're saying is, if Prost had been seriously injured in Senna's intentional crash, Senna would have gone to try and save him?

Not in that particular case, I guess, but I believe he would in any other case.

eagleash wrote:

Phoenix wrote:

shinji wrote:

So what you're saying is, if Prost had been seriously injured in Senna's intentional crash, Senna would have gone to try and save him?

Not in that particular case, I guess, but I believe he would in any other case.

I think, if say, the car had caught fire & Prost was trapped Senna would have tried to help, no doubt.

Piquet Snr gets a lot of flack but at the Brands tyre test in '85 (?) Streiff (?) crashed heavily at the bottom of Paddock & Piquet stopped in the middle of a GP length test run to help. He was actually, if I remember correctly, the first to the driver. As a side issue he got grumbled at a bit for then driving back up Paddock & into the pits via the exit.

thehemogoblin wrote:Just wait until you see me in Superleague Formula next year...

Phoenix wrote:[i]"Damon Hill, you're a butterhands useless. I can't believe someone can make so many silly mistakes during a season.

Ferrim wrote:

Phoenix wrote:[i]"Damon Hill, you're a butterhands useless. I can't believe someone can make so many silly mistakes during a season.

I've always found amazing that Hill could drive so well in '94, when he was directly thrown into a battle that he wasn't prepared for, and so bad in '95, with much more experience.

Back on topic: "Weeee aaaare the chaaaaampioooooons, weeeeeeeee aaaaaaaaaare the chaaaaaaaaampioooooooooooons" on your team radio (Fernando Alonso, 2005). Although IIRC, he actually sang that when Renault won the WCC at the final race of the season.

Also:

"Not bad for a number 2 driver" (Mark Webber on winning the 2010 championship).

"It's ridiculous to say that the team has helped me win the champion-chip (sic)" (Fernando Alonso on the same).

"It wasn't as easy as it looked" (Nigel Mansell, 1992)

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:"I was not very happy with the car, and we had a lot of problems, and the car was not so good, I think."

good_Ralf wrote:"Thanks to Romain Grosjean" - 2012

KNEEL BEFORE YOUR MASTER! -Metal sonic after winning the F1 Championship

Long time no see Kurt Busch, my loathsome copy -Metal sonic in NASCAR

See me as I am, no longer afraid of anything! I shall become the ultimate overlord, ruling as the world's most supreme being! -Metal Sonic when embarking on his quest to become champion

Guooooo! Why! I had it all! I am the ultimate overlord, Metal Sonic! I am the real Supervillain! -Metal Sonic when losing to kurt busch in NASCAR

Ataxia wrote:"Well, there's one thing that's driven me to go as quickly as possible in the races...IBS."

takagi_for_the_win wrote:

Ataxia wrote:"Well, there's one thing that's driven me to go as quickly as possible in the races...IBS."

Classic

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Yes Frank, thanks for giving me an near unbeatable car, but now I think I'll move to Arrows! I mean, what could possibly go wrong?