Page 2 of 5
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 12 Oct 2012, 13:12
by Ataxia
eurobrun wrote:DanielPT wrote:eurobrun wrote:Both regular Williams drivers considerably faster than Bottas across the two practice sessions. I am not trying to start anything, I am just pointing out a fact to justify why I don't think he deserves to get the Williams race seat
What? Bashing Bottas again?
There are two things that might give Bottas a seat: He is not crash-prone and he is not a bitter disappointment of a driver by trundling along battling with Toro Rossos when his team-mate shows how fast the car is (right before crashing into something. Or getting a penalty. Whichever comes first).
Judging by practice speeds Bottas would be trundling along
behind the Toro Rossos
Practice is rarely a true showcase for speed...plus, he has outdone the other Williams drivers at other points during the season anyway.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 01:36
by RonDenisDeletraz
BaconLettuceNinja wrote:eurobrun wrote:DanielPT wrote:What? Bashing Bottas again?
There are two things that might give Bottas a seat: He is not crash-prone and he is not a bitter disappointment of a driver by trundling along battling with Toro Rossos when his team-mate shows how fast the car is (right before crashing into something. Or getting a penalty. Whichever comes first).
Judging by practice speeds Bottas would be trundling along
behind the Toro Rossos
Practice is rarely a true showcase for speed...plus, he has outdone the other Williams drivers at other points during the season anyway.
But he isn't able to beat them on a regular basis. I mainly don't think he deserves a drive because even if there was any performance increase it would'nt be enough for the considerable amount of money that Williams would lose.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 02:39
by Jocke1
With 30 minutes to go in FP3, which was actually about 6 minutes ago, Narain Karthikeyan did his best Bruno Senna-impersonation.
It was quite funny how he waved his hands in anger at the slower car in front. I didn't catch who it was, though. I was so intrigued by Narain's waving that I failed to notice who he waved at.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 05:24
by TomWazzleshaw
Alonso must be ruing that mistake in Japan as that Ferrari simpli has no pace whatsoever
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 05:44
by TomWazzleshaw
Oh dear, Martin Donnelly and co are gonna have one hell of a long night sorting this crap out
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 05:45
by the Masked Lapwing
Ricciardo's parked at the side of the road and still beat Vergne
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 05:58
by TomWazzleshaw
Lewis nearly drilled the back of Michael's car in pit lane
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 06:02
by RealRacingRoots
There goes everybody's Pridicament Pridicition Pole guess.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 06:02
by Jocke1
Way to go, Mark.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 06:04
by Ubik
Wibbah!
The only question is how many places he'll lose at the start.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 06:24
by Jocke1
-Why didn't you tell me about Massa!!!
-What did you want me to say?
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 06:58
by Ide
I'll just leave this in here.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 07:42
by 14 Hundred Hours
Ide wrote:I'll just leave this in here.
My eyes!! I now have to go off to help at my school's open day, and all I'll be able to think about is THIS!
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 07:49
by TomWazzleshaw
Ide wrote:I'll just leave this in here.
Words cannot begin to describe the monstrosity that is this poster
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 07:52
by RonDenisDeletraz
What in the name of bathplug is that
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 09:12
by noiceinmydrink
Haha, that's mental!
So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.
Yeah, I'm that cynical.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 09:46
by Salamander
Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental!
So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.
Yeah, I'm that cynical.
It's only slightly less obvious than Massa letting Alonso through back in Germany in 2010.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 15:18
by Phoenix
Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental!
So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.
Yeah, I'm that cynical.
That's not being cynical, that's the bleeding obvious. If I was Christian Horner I'd do the same. But who cares? Webber will fluff the start and be collected by the First Lap Nutcase anyway...
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:01
by Ataxia
Watching the qualifying made me feel miserable. And no, it wasn't due to a Red Bull lockout...
It's the track. Some camera views really showed off the unused scrubland behind the main grandstand and it was really depressing; especially with the grey sky behind it. No wonder crowds are rubbish; there's got to be absolutely no atmosphere whatsoever.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:02
by FullMetalJack
Phoenix wrote:Mexicola wrote:Haha, that's mental!
So, Webber 1st and Vettel 2nd? I smell team orders tomorrow a mile off.
Yeah, I'm that cynical.
That's not being cynical, that's the bleeding obvious. If I was Christian Horner I'd do the same. But who cares? Webber will fluff the start and be collected by the First Lap Nutcase anyway...
Exactly, Webber won't lead into turn 1, even if his starts have somewhat improved this year. Vettel will lead into turn 1.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:39
by Cynon
Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 16:43
by Salamander
Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 18:43
by Minardi Man
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Especially considering the better driver is in the red car.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 20:19
by Salamander
Minardi Man wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Especially considering the better driver is in the red car.
This is true.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 20:45
by Dj_bereta
Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
Unless Webber take out Vettel in the start.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 21:13
by Aerospeed
Dj_bereta wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
Unless Webber take out Vettel in the start.
Or Grosjean does the same.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 21:43
by TomWazzleshaw
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 21:52
by Londoner
Wizzie wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts
Someone (I think it was on the BBC coverage) was saying that Alonso's Q1 lap was an incredibly tactful one as he didn't go all-out on those tyres to preserve them for the race, and only did the bare minimum he needed to get into Q2. If that's true, that was the dictionary definition of 'risky'.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 23:07
by Salamander
Wizzie wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Cynon wrote:Unless Vettel retires, I think he's got the title in the bag. Especially since the Ferrari is going back towards the Force Indias and the Saubers.
How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts
He made it to Q3, and put the car on the second row. His practice times were pretty competitive too. Q1 was quite clearly, for whatever reason, an outlier.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 13 Oct 2012, 23:28
by Ataxia
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Wizzie wrote:BlindCaveSalamander wrote:How do you figure that? If anything, Ferrari have improved since Suzuka. Vettel will probably gain on Alonso, and probably take the championship lead, but I wouldn't count Fernando out just yet.
Alonso came so close to being eliminated in Q1 it's not funny. As it was, he barely scraped in on the supersofts
He made it to Q3, and put the car on the second row. His practice times were pretty competitive too. Q1 was quite clearly, for whatever reason, an outlier.
Perhaps he was just breaking the tyres in for Q2?
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:04
by Londoner
Bathplug, Button has damage.
Well done Kamui!
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:06
by Ubik
Don't think Kamui wants a drive next year.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:10
by Londoner
So both Saubers smacked Button at the start. Dear oh dear oh dear.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:10
by Paul Hayes
I like Kobayashi, but I have to echo Button's thoughts here - what an idiot.
A shame, as on those tyres they could both have had interesting races.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:10
by Ubik
Perez wants shooting after that move at the start.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:10
by sswishbone
I thought Kobayashi had a puncture that caused it, but evidently just his own fault, damn what a fail after such a storming drive in Japan *shakes head* Still interesting how Jenson was just stood at the side of the trackm evidently the recovery facilities are still below par
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:11
by RonDenisDeletraz
Sauber, Y U NO HAVE TWO GOOD WEEKENDS IN A ROW?
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:12
by F1000X
Well, that's the race. Well done Vettel.
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:12
by Londoner
These marshalls are useless. Why is Rosberg's car still on the side of the track?
Re: The 2012 Korean GP Discussion Thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2012, 06:13
by sswishbone
Rosberg's car still not recovered, if there's more indicidents this couild be trouble with regards to getting vehicle back to the garage. Oooh wonder what Button and Rosberg are chatting about?
Nicely done Vergne! Kobaycrashi drive through, saw that one coming, race ruined.