1978 Virtual F1 - Pryce and Arrows champions

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 12 Jan 2013, 12:29

pi314159 wrote:Some new proposals for 1978:
Then I have two questions about team's names:
This, which is the name of team, constructor and chassis for 1978?
SeedStriker, are you entering the cars as Parnellis or as Ensigns?

Since the Parnelli chassis is right now stagant in development, and for historical issues, I'll go with the Ensign brand and equipment.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Jan 2013, 20:55

pi314159 wrote:Then I have two questions about team's names:
This, which is the name of team, constructor and chassis for 1978?

Team: Willy Kauhsen Racing
Constructor: Kojima Engineering
Car: Kojima KE009B - Powered by a BRM V12

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:32

You can now start offering contracts to drivers. Please announce the offered salary and the length of the contract (Maximum: 2 years).

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:50

FERRARI
Gilles Villeneuve 600K
Riccardo Patrese 400K
Third choice in case the first two fail...Ronnie Peterson, 400K.
Wizzie, Ferrari's preferred driver is Elio de Angelis.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:53

Keke Rosberg 500 k
Ronnie Petersen 578k

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:56

Brian Henton: 50000 For 1 year, except Japanese GP
Masahiro Hasemi: 55000 for 1 year
Kazuyoshi Hoshino: 5000 for Japanese GP + development-and-reserve-driver,.
+ Same conditions as Hasemi, should Hasemi refuse.
Teddy Pilette: Same conditions as Henton, should Henton decline the offer
Patrick Nève: Same conditions as Henton , should both Henton and Pilette decline the offer.
Masami Kuwashima: Same conditions as Hoshino, should Hoshino decline the offer. Or Hasemi, if both Hasemi and Hoshino decline the offer.

That's not a lot of money, but neither are they top drivers. If other teams want them, we'll just take cheaper drivers.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:58

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:FERRARI
Gilles Villeneuve 750K
Riccardo Patrese 500K

Wizzie, Ferrari's preferred driver is Elio de Angelis.

I assume the contracts are for one year?

Post by **Londoner** » 12 Jan 2013, 21:59

Mario Andretti - 230K - 1 year
Alan Jones - 210K - 1 year

Post by **Ataxia** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:02

Renault would like to offer the following:

Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 150K (1 year)
Rene Arnoux - 300K (2 years)

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:03

SHADOW

Tom Pryce £600,000
James Hunt £450,000
Nelson Piquet £295,000
Ronnie Peterson £450,000
Didier Pironi £300,000
Keke Rosberg £320,000
Lella Lombardi £220,000
Rolf Stommelen £200,000

All drivers on 1 year contracts. Surely 2 of those must want to drive for me

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:04

Geoff Brabham - 130K - 1 Year

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:06

I'll determine who will drive for which team on January 20 or after every team submitted their driver choices.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:20

Lotus wants to offer to the following drivers these offers:

Rick Mears - 300K
Niki Lauda - 500K

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:38

added 3 backup-options in my driver list. None of them are really hot on the driver market.

SeedStriker · Post by **SeedStriker** » 12 Jan 2013, 22:59

Team Tissot Ensign will bid for
Jody Scheckter: 250K
Bruno Giacomelli: 250K
Eddie Cheever: 250K
Clay Regazzoni: 250K

All contracts for 1 year. Also, we'll continue with Ford power if there's not a better option.

FloProAct · Post by **FloProAct** » 12 Jan 2013, 23:29

Martini will make offers for the following drivers on a 10K per weekend entered basis as I'm not sure how many meetings we will take part in. As we will only run one car, only one of these drivers will get the contract. In order of preference:
Patrick Depallier
Rene Arnoux
Jean-Pierre Jabouille

And, more realistically:
Henri Pescarolo
Didier Pironi
Jean-Pierre Jarier
Jacques Laffite
Michel Leclere
Patrick Tambay

So, basically, every French driver who competed in 1977....

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 12 Jan 2013, 23:36

pasta_maldonado wrote:Keke Rosberg 500 k
Ronnie Petersen 578k

Actually, make that

Keke Roaberg 200k
Ronnie Petersen 270k
Niki Lauda 340k

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 12 Jan 2013, 23:42

Williams (in order of preference, likely running two cars)

Gilles Villeneuve 700K
Keke Rosberg 250K
Clay Regazzoni 200K
Jean-Pierre Jabouille 200K
Henri Pescarolo 100K

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 13 Jan 2013, 00:03

Arrows are gonna make these offers:

Niki Lauda: 500 k
Ricardo Patrese: 300k *
Jacques Lafitte: 200 k

In case Rosberg doesn''t join Brabham: 200k

We are still selling our second car place

Edit: our third choice : Fittipaldi for 300 k

FantometteBR · Post by **FantometteBR** » 13 Jan 2013, 00:24

Tyrrelll proposals

Patrick Depailler: 250k
Jean-Pierre Jarier: 230k
Jochen Mass: 200k
Carlos Pace: 200k
Bruno Giacomelli: 175k
John Watson: 175K

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 Jan 2013, 04:53

McLaren will offer both James Hunt and Tom Pryce the same contract: £500k a year, for 2 years. That should keep Hunt a McLaren driver until his retirement. Should, for some ridiculous reason, they decide being in the best car isn't really so great, our backup plans will be, in order of preference:

Tom Sneva: £200k for one year
Riccardo Patrese: £400k for one year
Ronnie Peterson: £350k for one year
Carlos Pace: £300k for one year

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Jan 2013, 05:00

On the request of Ferrari, Ligier will take on Elio de Angelis in the first seat. In the second car, we'd like to offer a contract to Jacky Ickx at 150k a year. Also, would merging McGuire into Ligier achieve anything or just make things worse?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Jan 2013, 06:44

That happens if you're writing two replies at once. :oops:

RonDenisDeletraz · Post by **RonDenisDeletraz** » 13 Jan 2013, 06:46

pi314159 wrote:Team Denmark (until I find a better name)
Manager: Mattias Kjellerup

Wrong Thread :lol:

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Jan 2013, 06:51

Merging McGuire into Ligier would only give you less than 500.000, as McGuire is still in debt. But as Ligier needs cash and we have too many entries anyway, why not?

Post by **tommykl** » 13 Jan 2013, 07:15

Wolf offers the following deals:

Jacky Ickx: 400 000
David Purley: 300 000
Lamberto Leoni: 200 000

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 13 Jan 2013, 08:21

pi314159 wrote:Merging McGuire into Ligier would only give you less than 500.000, as McGuire is still in debt. But as Ligier needs cash and we have too many entries anyway, why not?

Yeah, we'll merge the two. And since Walter Wolf's mob have just given Ickx an offer I don't have a hope in hell of matching, we over a 100k contract to Gijs van Lennep instead. However, Ickx will still be out main option, on the hope that the Ferrari engines may sway his decision.

On another note, it's probably times like these where using flaschenpost's system to sort out driver contracts is a good idea.

SuperAguri · Post by **SuperAguri** » 13 Jan 2013, 10:19

Theodore Racing being cheap will offer and hoping we can have pay drivers...

Rupert Keegan - 0 per race
Patrick Tambay - -25000 per race (ie he pays us to drive...)

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 13 Jan 2013, 10:24

Brabham is open to any merger proposals from a smaller team

(we will merge with Apollon if it gives us money)

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 13 Jan 2013, 11:09

pi314159 wrote:Some new proposals for 1978:

Injuries: It's quite unrelialistic to run a series in the seventies without driver injuries, so I'll use a similar system to tommykl in his alternate Formula 1.

Can you say something more about that system?

Also maybe there can be introduction of some serious injuries (or even deaths) - for example once per season you name a race and one of DNF drivers gets an injury which ends his career.

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Jan 2013, 11:14

pycku wrote:
pi314159 wrote:Some new proposals for 1978:

Injuries: It's quite unrelialistic to run a series in the seventies without driver injuries, so I'll use a similar system to tommykl in his alternate Formula 1.

Can you say something more about that system?

Also maybe there can be introduction of some serious injuries (or even deaths) - for example once per season you name a race and one of DNF drivers gets an injury which ends his career.

For every accident, I'll run a random generator if the driver is injured. There might be serious accidents leading to long breaks, but no fatal crashes.

Samster · Post by **Samster** » 13 Jan 2013, 17:22

I'll wait until 1977 ends and we know our budget for the season before Boro make any offers. We will likely be offering our seat to the highest bidder anyway, being desperate for pay drivers.

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 13 Jan 2013, 18:27

Is there any list of pay drivers?

pi314159 · Post by **pi314159** » 13 Jan 2013, 19:20

pycku wrote:Is there any list of pay drivers?

No, there isn't a complete list. But you can offer contracts to drivers under the condition they bring money with them. But I'll run a random generator then if they manage to bring the required funding.

On another note, would anyone be interested in a virtual Formula 2 as feeder series?

pycku · Post by **pycku** » 13 Jan 2013, 20:00

We would like to increase our offer for Patrese up to 300 k. Also another driver we'd like is Emo Fittipaldi for 300 k.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Jan 2013, 20:04

If this system is anything like Flaschenpost's then I don't understand why people are bidding for Patrese. You've got no chance! Why would a driver supported by Ferrari for two seasons, and about to be given a permanent drive with on a generous salary go anywhere? Surely it will be 1-90 Ferrari and 91-100 for all the other random teams :lol:

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 13 Jan 2013, 20:06

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:If this system is anything like Flaschenpost's then I don't understand why people are bidding for Patrese. You've got no chance! Why would a driver supported by Ferrari for two seasons, and about to be given a permanent drive with on a generous salary go anywhere? Surely it will be 1-90 Ferrari and 91-100 for all the other random teams

More like 1-99 Ferrari, and 1 for the rest :lol:

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 13 Jan 2013, 20:07

pi314159 wrote:
pycku wrote:Is there any list of pay drivers?

No, there isn't a complete list. But you can offer contracts to drivers under the condition they bring money with them. But I'll run a random generator then if they manage to bring the required funding.

On another note, would anyone be interested in a virtual Formula 2 as feeder series?

Sure, why not? There are plenty of drivers to choose from.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 13 Jan 2013, 22:00

Stramala [kostas22] wrote:If this system is anything like Flaschenpost's then I don't understand why people are bidding for Patrese. You've got no chance! Why would a driver supported by Ferrari for two seasons, and about to be given a permanent drive with on a generous salary go anywhere? Surely it will be 1-90 Ferrari and 91-100 for all the other random teams

Because McLaren have had the better car for the last two years and are offering the same salary? Although, that's only if Pryce and Hunt lose their minds and go to Shadow, but if Nannini-gate taught me one thing, its that you should always have a backup just in case...

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 13 Jan 2013, 22:15

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Stramala [kostas22] wrote:If this system is anything like Flaschenpost's then I don't understand why people are bidding for Patrese. You've got no chance! Why would a driver supported by Ferrari for two seasons, and about to be given a permanent drive with on a generous salary go anywhere? Surely it will be 1-90 Ferrari and 91-100 for all the other random teams

Because McLaren have had the better car for the last two years and are offering the same salary? Although, that's only if Pryce and Hunt lose their minds and go to Shadow, but if Nannini-gate taught me one thing, its that you should always have a backup just in case...

If Nannini-gate taught me one thing, it's that loyalty doesn't exist and drivers are willing to stab you in the back for what is, in fairness, a sideways move.