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Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:35
by FantometteBR
I'll might take Osella then
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:37
by Alextrax52
Salamander wrote:Williams has only one engine target, and that is Renault. Considering that we had their engines in 1989 and won 2 Grands Prix, we hope that this shows that we are fully committed to a long-term relationship with Renault.
Now that's what I call dedication. Good on you for keeping the old formula

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:38
by good_Ralf
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:(Albeit Osella AGS and Eurobrun but that doesn't matter in alternative seasons)
What do I need? Do I just bid for teams, engines and drivers or is it more complicated than that? If it's simple, I'll go for
EuroBrun for the sheer fun of it. I've never done this before.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:39
by Peteroli34
Tyrrell Engien Choice
Renualt
Ford (90spec)
Lamborghini
Judd
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:39
by Alextrax52
good_Ralf wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:(Albeit Osella AGS and Eurobrun but that doesn't matter in alternative seasons)
What do I need? Do I just bid for teams, engines and drivers or is it more complicated than that? If it's simple, I'll go for
EuroBrun for the sheer fun of it. I've never done this before.
Join the club. Eurobrun is the last team because Ataxia got AGS and Fantomette got Osella so you are the last entrant Ralf
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:40
by FMecha
Salamander wrote:Williams has only one engine target, and that is Renault. Considering that we had their engines in 1989 and won 2 Grands Prix, we hope that this shows that we are fully committed to a long-term relationship with Renault.
FMecha wrote:And I don't think Ferrari engine should be made exclusively to Ferrari only (I think Flaschenpost did not make the Ferrari engines exclusive).
The works Ferrari engines were exclusive to Ferrari, yes, for obvious reasons. There was a customer Ferrari package... which Stramala was able to do some amazing things with.
Except that Ford engines were the only customer engines that will be available here, Salamander. Given your choices, BTW, are you expecting Flaschenpost F1 MkII? I expected so, but hopefully I'll learn my own mistakes from that one, firstly by choosing a better team.
Oh, and Onyx's new management is set to be unveiled soon. (There will be a new guy)

good_Ralf wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:(Albeit Osella AGS and Eurobrun but that doesn't matter in alternative seasons)
What do I need? Do I just bid for teams, engines and drivers or is it more complicated than that? If it's simple, I'll go for
EuroBrun for the sheer fun of it. I've never done this before.
Choose your engines now. The drivers stuff is for later.

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:40
by Rated
Can I have Eurobrun please ?

Edit : Well, looks like I was too slow.

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:41
by FMecha
Rated wrote:Can I have Eurobrun please ?

good_Ralf claimed it first.

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:42
by Ataxia
AGS' Engine Choices:1) Judd (bid: $7m, and we'd like to ask for the deal with free updates)
2) Lamborghini (we bid $6m)
3) '89-spec Ford (since it's unlimited, we offer the list price of $3m)
good_Ralf wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:(Albeit Osella AGS and Eurobrun but that doesn't matter in alternative seasons)
What do I need? Do I just bid for teams, engines and drivers or is it more complicated than that? If it's simple, I'll go for
EuroBrun for the sheer fun of it. I've never done this before.
I would have a little read of the instructions on the first page, pal.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:44
by Salamander
FMecha wrote:Except that Ford engines were the only customer engines that will be available here, Salamander.
Well, yes. I was just clarifying what you said before.
FMecha wrote:Given your choices, BTW, are you expecting Flaschenpost F1 MkII?
I had a good thing going last time, why mess with a winning formula?

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:50
by Alextrax52
Hermann95 wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

So their's no computer games needed (Just for clarification)
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:51
by FMecha
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Hermann95 wrote:takagi_for_the_win wrote:How exactly are you simulating this?

It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

So their's no computer games needed (Just for clarification)
You don't say?

Some series do use xkoranate though, albeit without spreadsheets (F1RICS, Warped Touring Car Series, etc).

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:53
by SeedStriker
Dallara will bid for...
Lamborghini
Renault
Ford 90
Judd
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:55
by Alextrax52
FMecha wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Hermann95 wrote:It will be a mixture of an excel spreedsheet which i created(lots of work) and xkoronate, but the funny things will happen in the spreedsheed

So their's no computer games needed (Just for clarification)
You don't say?

Some series do use xkoranate though, albeit without spreadsheets (F1RICS, Warped Touring Car Series, etc).

what is xkorante? Forgive my lack of computer knowledge and in these championships but is he just going to create this season on a spreadsheet and mix it up so everyone gets a chance?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 19:56
by good_Ralf
Engine bid
Renault
Ferrari
Lamborghini
Ford '90
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 20:01
by FMecha
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:what is xkorante? Forgive my lack of computer knowledge and in these championships but is he just going to create this season on a spreadsheet and mix it up so everyone gets a chance?
A scorinator (result-generating tool) used both here and in the
NationStates forums. It was originally used for a sort of sports RPing stuff in the NationStates forums. (I play NationStates, but never got the time to RP)
Read this for details.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 20:46
by The Lukas
Coloni Engine Choce
Judd
Lamborgini
Ford
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 21:08
by Ataxia
Autosport wrote:AGS bullish over future
Current F1 backmarker team Automobiles Gonfaronnaises Sportives, known as AGS, has made clear its desire to move away from the back of the grid in the next few years. The little French team have recently installed Rennes-born Jacques Couteau as the team's manager, and the Frenchman has made no secret of his desire to make the team the top one in France.
"We've got a tiny, but hard-working operation here. What we need to do is make smart decisions with the resources we have, and we mustn't be wasteful or silly with the money we spend. Key to the future is getting a good engine deal; we've bid for Judds but we know that to develop we need to come into some kind of works deal in the future. Our target is to get as close as possible to Ligier to ensure that France is well represented in top-level motorsports. 1990 will be a year where we lay the foundations for everything, and to develop the infrastructure needed to make the team a success."
No word has been given yet on the driver front, however it is expected that the team will seek to partner an experienced, technically informed driver with a young and hungry racer, possibly with some financial incentives.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 21:28
by Nessafox
Well, i'm too late, as happens often. So for the sake of it, i'm choosing Life, and the first thing i do is to withdraw immediatly. Voila, problem solved

Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 21:36
by SeedStriker
This wrote:Well, i'm too late, as happens often. So for the sake of it, i'm choosing Life, and the first thing i do is to withdraw immediatly. Voila, problem solved

That's way too rejectfull! Even for Life's standards!
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 22:33
by UncreativeUsername37
1. Ford '90
2. Judd
3. Lamborghini
4. Honda
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 22 Jul 2013, 22:54
by Samster
Minardi's choice.
1. Ford 90
2. Lamborghini
3. Judd
4. Ford 89
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 00:08
by Phoenix
Obviously, McLaren can't go with anything else other than Honda. Our initial bid will be for $25.000.000, and we can up it if necessary.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 04:07
by RonDenisDeletraz
If this gets to 1993 can I have Sauber then?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 05:51
by Shizuka
We have 20m? Alright.
1. Ford 1989
2. Ford 1990
3. Lamborghini
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 10:31
by Hermann95
Hey,
it's good to see that there is so much attention payed to this series.
Im planing to run the game as far as we could get, so i think there will be defenitly a 1991 season and a 1992 season, all teams will take there money into the next season and there will be prize money for the Constructors Championship(Top 10). Next season hopefully a sort of sponsoring system will be introduced so you will stick your budget together on your own

.
Currently i'm working on the driver list. For now there are 38 Drivers in, but i'll need a few more. If anyone have ideas for driver please post or PM.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 10:36
by Alextrax52
Are you going to finalise the entry list at some point as well?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 10:58
by Hermann95
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Are you going to finalise the entry list at some point as well?
Don't know what exactly do you mean? (sorry)
Little update:
The Calander for the 1990 season have been finalised. It will be the same as in RL.
CalendarUSA/ Phoenix
Brazil/ Interlagos
San Marino/ Imola
MonacoCanada/ Montreal
Mexico/ Hermanos Rodriguez
French/ Paul Ricard
Great Britain/ Silverstone
Germany/ Hockenheim
Hungary/ Budapest
Belgium/ Spa-Francorchamps
Italy/ Monza
Portugal/ Estoril
Spain/ Jerez
Japan/ Suzuka
Australia/ Adelaide
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:03
by Hermann95
Phoenix wrote:Obviously, McLaren can't go with anything else other than Honda. Our initial bid will be for $25.000.000, and we can up it if necessary.
25m$ ? Is that right?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:03
by Alextrax52
Hermann95 wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Are you going to finalise the entry list at some point as well?
Don't know what exactly do you mean? (sorry)
Little update:
The Calander for the 1990 season have been finalised. It will be the same as in RL.
CalendarUSA/ Phoenix
Brazil/ Interlagos
San Marino/ Imola
MonacoCanada/ Montreal
Mexico/ Hermanos Rodriguez
French/ Paul Ricard
Great Britain/ Silverstone
Germany/ Hockenheim
Hungary/ Budapest
Belgium/ Spa-Francorchamps
Italy/ Monza
Portugal/ Estoril
Spain/ Jerez
Japan/ Suzuka
Australia/ Adelaide
You know. Which user has got what team and which engine and drivers they've got.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:06
by Hermann95
The Lukas wrote:Coloni Engine Choce
Judd
Lamborgini
Ford
Which Ford engine? 89?
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:07
by Phoenix
Hermann95 wrote:Phoenix wrote:Obviously, McLaren can't go with anything else other than Honda. Our initial bid will be for $25.000.000, and we can up it if necessary.
25m$ ? Is that right?
Not that there's much opposition for the Honda engines, but we want to be sure.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:20
by Hermann95
Bleu wrote:Ligier's choices
a) Ford 89
b) Judd
c) Lamborghini
If you have the Ford(89 spec) pn top of your list you will definitly get this engine because they can supplie an unlimited amount of teams!
Same for Brabham, they have it in 2nd position, so if the dont get the Renault engine they will stick to this engine.
The only team which needs to bid for engines is Osella. If they have done it we will go on.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:22
by Hermann95
Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Hermann95 wrote:Freeze-O-Kimi wrote:Are you going to finalise the entry list at some point as well?
Don't know what exactly do you mean? (sorry)
You know. Which user has got what team and which engine and drivers they've got.
I'll post this at the time everything is finalised.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:27
by Ataxia
Final engine draft PM'ed, Hermann.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:28
by pycku
Should we just name the engines or put bids? Cause some people (including me after an edit to my post) put some offers to engine suppliers, and other just give a list of engines.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 11:36
by Peteroli34
Hermann ive PM'ed you an updated bid for Engines
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 12:03
by Bleu
There were 40 drivers in real-life. Add at least Comas, Apicella, van de Poele, Chiesa, Danielsson, Irvine and Giovanardi (top10 F3000 89) to those.
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 12:09
by Alextrax52
Because i'm about to go out can i choose my drivers now?
Back now and no one has chosen so that's good
Re: F1 Alternativ: season 1990
Posted: 23 Jul 2013, 12:24
by roblo97
If Osella haven't been taken, may I please have them