Grand Prix Rejects

So, I've had a rejectful attempt at the 2000s and a not-so-rejectful attempt at the 1990s. How is my memory getting worse with more recent races? Or was Ataxia's quiz just that much harder?

Results to my quiz will be revealed tomorrow afternoon, so if you still want to try your luck at that you've got a bit of time.

Updated standings for 1990s:

1. Nuppiz 21.33
2. kevinbotz 21.00
3. James1978 20.00
4. tommykl 19.55
5. dinizintheoven 19.00
6. Ataxia 17.41
7. Aerond 16.58
8. EastLondoner 16.33
9. Enforcer 16.08
10. FullMetalJack 14.83
11. go_Rubens 14.50
12. Salamander 13.50
13. roblomas52 12.41
14. good_Ralf 11.67
15. Shadaza 11.17
16. watka 10.33
-. tristan1117
18. The Masked Lapwing 8.25

Alright, since I'm not getting any more answers, I'm going to give bonus points for the funniest joke answers I get

I want to atempt a Tracks Quiz, if you let me

Aerond wrote:I want to atempt a Tracks Quiz, if you let me

Of course you can create a track quiz if you want.

Answers to the 2000s quiz!

I assumed the quiz would be relatively easy in the respect that most people in the forum will have the 2000s much fresher in their minds. I guess I was wrong there.

1) Name all of the race drivers that Spyker used in 2007. (0.25 points each)
Most of you got this. Adrian Sutil and Christijan Albers were the first pair, with Markus Winkelhock and Sakon Yamamoto replacing Albers later in the season.

2) Who was the head of Phoenix Finance, the group who tried to enter with Prost’s remnants in 2002?
Lots of people said Tom Walkinshaw, but the actual head of Phoenix was Charles Nickerson. Phoenix planned to run old Prosts with '98-spec Hart engines, but unsurprisingly weren't given the time of day.

3) Why were BAR disqualified for two races in 2005?
BAR would run their cars underweight during the race, and at their final fuel stop would fill up a secret reservoir attached to the fuel tank to ensure the car could meet the 605kg limit. They were found out at San Marino, had their results from that race removed and were then banned for a pair of races.

4) What was the name of the sponsor that covered the livery space vacated by SS United on the Super Aguri of 2007?
I think only one person really got this; the answer I was looking for was Four Leaf. Although people were right to some extent with Samantha Kingz or Honda, I'm gonna be stingy on this one.

5) Justin Wilson scored one point in his F1 career; which race did it come in?
2003 US Grand Prix, driving for Jaguar.

6) Minardi pulled out of the 2002 Spanish Grand Prix. Why?
Safety grounds; the team suffered a spate of front and rear wing failures throughout the weekend and therefore went to the FIA to officially withdraw from the round.

7) Which team was regarded to have come up with the successful “double-diffuser” design prior to its use in 2009?
Super Aguri were the team who came up with the idea. Presumably, once the team dissolved the former SA personnel took the ideas to Honda, Williams and Toyota.

8) Former Ferrari team doctor Benigno Bartoletti angered many of the F1 fraternity in 2005 with outrageous claims about some of the drivers. What did he say to cause this?
He accused "a third of the grid" of using cocaine.

9) Name any three teams who applied in 2009 to join F1 for 2010, but were unsuccessful. (0.33 points for each)
Some people said USF1 for this, despite the fact that they were successful in their application. Some of the main teams who missed out on a slot were Epsilon Euskadi, Prodrive, N.Technology, "March", "Brabham", Lola, the fan-run myf1dream.com, and the Wurz-led Team Superfund. Oh, and some team run by some Serbian fellow...

10) From their inception in 2000, Jaguar had four different team principals in four seasons. Name them. (0.25 points each)
Listed in team principal roles were the following: Neil Ressler (2000), Bobby Rahal (2001), Niki Lauda (2001/02) and Tony Purnell (2003/04)

11) What caused Felipe Massa to miss the 2002 United States Grand Prix?
Having been handed a grid penalty, Sauber got around it by squeezing Heinz-Harald Frentzen into their car. No points were awarded for suggesting Massa was banned.

12) Why were both Midlands disqualified from the 2006 German Grand Prix?
One of the biggest talking points in 2006 was about flexible wings. Midland were caught red-handed, and nobody cared in the slightest.

13) Before Kimi Raikkonen entered Formula 1, how many single-seater races had he done?
23

14) BAR had four official test drivers in 2001. Name them all. (0.25 points each)
A surprisingly high number of people said Mika Salo and Ricardo Zonta. Salo was pounding around Paul Ricard in the Toyota test hack, and Zonta was testing and subbing in at Jordan. The four BAR test drivers were Anthony Davidson, Takuma Sato, Darren Manning and Patrick Lemarie.

15) Nick Fry did two things that were ultimately responsible for the demise of Super Aguri. What were they? (0.5 points each)
Firstly, the man with the funny voice vetoed the Magma Group takeover due to their debt payment plan not being to his satisfaction; he wanted Honda to be paid upfront. He then told the Turkish GP organisers that Super Aguri wouldn't be turning up, and when they eventually did they weren't let onto the premises.

16) What was so special about the number of points Ferrari got in 2002?
If you added up the points score of the other teams, it's exactly the same amount that Ferrari managed (221).

17) Name all of the manufacturer teams that entered in the period of 2000-2009. (0.2 points each)
Renault, BMW, Honda, Jaguar and Toyota were the answers I was looking for.

18) Which venues had their first ever grand prix in the period of 2000-2009? (0.14 points each)
Indianapolis, Bahrain, Shanghai, Istanbul, Valencia, Singapore and Abu Dhabi were the answers I wanted. Indianapolis counted because the old Indy 500 events weren't technically grands prix.

19) Who was the last race driver ever hired by Minardi? (1 point)
That was Robert Doornbos, who had a habit of replacing Austrians. He replaced Friesacher at Minardi in 2005, and then Klien at Red Bull in 2006.

20) Which designer is generally regarded to have come up with the twin keel suspension mounting?
Sergio Rinland was the answer I was looking for. Having trialled it to some degree on the 2000 Sauber, the next iterations were the most successful. He then took the concept to Arrows.

21) What did the “GA” stand for in Ferrari’s 2003 chassis designation?
Gianni Agnelli, the former Fiat shareholder who died in early 2003.

22) Why did Kimi Raikkonen retire in the 2001 San Marino Grand Prix?
It wasn't vodka related, funnily enough. Raikkonen's steering wheel came away in his hands mid-race, and so he had to stop.

23) How did Ford scupper Jordan’s hopes of a Mercedes engine deal for 2004?
This was in EJ's autobiography; Jordan planned to ditch Ford and sign a tie-up with Mercedes who would badge the engines as "Smart". Unfortunately, Ford decided to play hardball by threatening to withdraw from Formula 1 unless the FIA agreed to them supplying the smaller teams with engines. It was a shame, as Gary Paffett would have raced for Jordan.

24) What was the name of McLaren’s 2003 car that never raced?
Most of you were there with the name, it was the MP4-18.

25) What did David Coulthard liken to a pit lane speed limiter in 2005?
Funnily enough, it wasn't Narain Karthikeyan. It was actually Louise Goodman's nipples.

26) How many copies of Jacques Villeneuve’s album sold in North America in 2007?
Wikipedia says 836. I think we should make an F1Rejects album and see if we can flog more.

27) Giancarlo Fisichella had to sit out of the 2002 French Grand Prix. Before the deal was cut short by legal issues, who was approached to replace him?
Despite having been sacked during the previous year, Heinz-Harald Frentzen was in line to replace Fisichella. The deal never came off, though, so Jordan only ran with one car.

28) The Renault R27 was poor in its adaption to Bridgestone tyres. What is rumoured to have caused this?
Although the car was a development of one suited to Michelins, there's an even better rumour. There was allegedly a tile in the Enstone team's windtunnel that had come loose, and because this poked out a bit it disrupted the airflow. Whether it's true or not, who knows, but I sure as hell hope it is.

29) Toro Rosso were given special dispensation to run a rev-limited Cosworth V10 in 2006. What was the original rev-limit?
Toro Rosso originally had the engine capped at 16,700 rpm. Because they'd been pretty rubbish in a straight line, the FIA allowed them to shift it up to 17,000 which rather pissed Colin Kolles off.

30) Jean Alesi was victim to a strange incident qualifying for the 2000 Brazilian Grand Prix, as he was hit by something. What was it?
Yep, it was an ad hoarding which fell onto the track.

FINAL SCORES (partial points were given for close answers, or answers that made me exhale sharply from my nose)
1. peteroli34 - 22.36
2. kevinbotz - 19.86
3. good_Ralf - 18.33
4. takagi_for_the_win - 16.75
5. EastLondoner - 16.25
6. FMJ - 15
7. James1978 - 13.71
8. tommykl - 13.5
9. Salamander - 13.42
10. pi314159 - 13
11. dinizintheoven - 12.85
12. AdrianSutil - 12.1
13. Klon - 11.7
14. go_Rubens - 11.01
15. Enforcer - 9.09
16. Shadaza - 7.91
17. roblomas52 - 7.85
18. pasta_maldonado - 7.72
19. TMLW - 7.46
20. watka - 7
21. tristan1117 - 6.02
22. Aerond - 5.16

I just put in a late lap (entry) for the 90s quiz, just before the flag dropped in pre-qualifying

Here's the final decade left, the 1960s. But don't worry, there will be other quizzes after this one.

1) Which track did Jim Clark always hate after his first race there, and why?
2) Who was the only driver to score points for ENB?
3) Which Formula 1 car was powered by a hastily upgraded stock Ford 1500cc engine?
4) What was the real name of "Geki"
5) Which driver ran in Formula 1 with an orange Porsche?
6) Which car was the first 4WD car in Formula 1?
7) Which team invented an adjustable rear wing, similar to todays DRS?
8) Under which name did the ATS run in 1964?
9) Which two drivers won the Danish GP when it was run under F1 regulations?
10) Name the four tracks which hosted the French Grand Prix between 1960 and 1969.
11) Which was the last F1 car designed by Paul Emery?
12) Which non-championship Formula 1 race had two winners, who crossed the line in exactly the same moment?
13) Which race was boycotted by the major british factory teams, and why?
14) How many laps behind race winner Jack Brabham was Al Pease at the end of the 1967 Canadian GP?
15) Which driver competed in Formula 1, despite having lost his right lower leg.
16) Name the three parts of the triple crown of motorsports, as well as the year Graham Hill achieved each part of it. (1/6 points per correct answer)
17) Who scored the most points in the 1964 Formula 1 season?
18) When wings came up in the late 1960s, one F1 constructor tested a particularily ugly concept on an F2 car, which looked like a bookshelf, floating 50cm over the drivers' head. Which constructor came up with that design?
19) Which car, presented 1969 in Geneva, was designed as a concept for a safer Formula 1, and who designed it? (I want the name of the person who designed it, not just the manufacturer)
20) Which Formula 1 constructor, which never took part in the world championship, was founded by the grandfather of Sebastien Buemi and Natacha Gachnang?
21) Which race was the only win for the BRM H16 Engine?
22) What does BRP stand for, and for which purpose was the team originally founded?
23) Which constructor vanished from Formula 1 less than two years after winning the constructors' championship?
24) Which company mostly known for racing engines built a 4WD car in 1969?
25) The Ligier type numbers contain a tribute to which driver?
26) Which accident led to straw bales being banned?
27) Which driver is quoted "I'm in the wrong business. I don't want to beat anybody, I don't want to be the big hero."?
28) Which driver was known for jumping out of his car when he was going to have an accident?
29) For which reason was Stirling Moss disqualified from the 1960 Portuguese GP?
30) Name the four engine manufacturers whose engines were put into Lotus cars in 1963.

Phoenix aren't you meant to email those to pi314159, not give away what might be the correct answers?

good_Ralf wrote:Phoenix aren't you meant to email those to pi314159, not give away what might be the correct answers?

Answers? What answers?

Can I call dibs on putting together a "commercial" round, based on sponsors, business, team owners etc?

watka wrote:Can I call dibs on putting together a "commercial" round, based on sponsors, business, team owners etc?

You can, just post it when you've made it. I just don't want too many quizzes paralelly, but as there are only three running at the moment, with the 1990s quiz over tomorrow, that's not a problem.

pi314159 wrote:

watka wrote:Can I call dibs on putting together a "commercial" round, based on sponsors, business, team owners etc?

You can, just post it when you've made it. I just don't want too many quizzes paralelly, but as there are only three running at the moment, with the 1990s quiz over tomorrow, that's not a problem.

That's fine, I wasn't intending to post it until next week.

1990s quiz answers:

1) Which Japanese Engine, which was never used in a grand prix, was teseted by Lotus in 1991?
It was an Isuzu V12 engine.

2) Which later Safety Car driver was supposed to drive for Pacific in 1995, but didn't get a superlicense?
Oliver Gavin is the answer. He drove the Safety Car from 1997 to 1999.

3) Which teams ran Lola cars during the 1990s (3 points per correct answer)
First were Larrousse, before they started building their own cars. Lola then started supplying Scuderia Italia in 1993, but the car was uncompetetive and the team was dead before the year wa over. In 1995, Lola built a test car, but it took them until 1997 to return to Formula 1. I guess you all know the story of that team.

4) Which four drivers crashed into the barrier now knows as the "Wall of Champions" in 1999 (0.25 points per correct answer)
Michael Schumacher (1994 and 1995 F1 champion), Damon Hill (1996 F1 champion), Jacques Villeneuve (1997 F1 champion) and Ricardo Zonta (1997 F3000 champion)

5) Which driver scored his first point in his last race?
Jan Magnussen scored his first point in the 1998 Canadian Grand Prix, but was still replaced with Jos Verstappen.

6) What caused Andrea Moda to miss the 1992 French Grand Prix?
The french lorry drivers were on a strike and blocked major roads. All other teams still manged to get to the circuit, Andrea Moda didn't.

7) For whom was the Andrea Moda S921 originally designed?
It was designed for an abandoned BMW works programm.

8) When did Franco Rocchi first come up with the idea of a Formula 1 engine with a W-configuration?
It was in 1967, when he proposed a W18 Ferrari engine. When Formula 1 banned engines with more than 12 cylinders, the project was abandoned, but Rocchi continued to try and get a W engine into Formula 1.

9) Who missed most parts of the 1994 season and half of the 1995 season due to injuries sustained in a testing crash?
Pedro Lamy broke both legs and wrists in a testing crash at Silverstone, and it took him more than a year to recover.

10) Who earned his first point by pushing Gregor Foitek into the wall?
Eric Bernard pushed Foitek into the wall at Monaco 1990, which earned him 6th position.

11) Who was supposed to make his F1 debut with Larrousse in 1995?
Erik Comas and Christophe Bouchut were supposed to drive the Larrousse cars, but the team folded before the start of the season. It would've been the debut for Bouchut. Bouchut never took part in a formula one race, but drove his 20th Le Mans race this year.

12) The crash of which two backmarkers meant the end for Michael Schumachers 1998 title challenge?
Tora Takagi and Esteban Tuero collided, Schumacher ran over the debris and suffered a puncture.

13) What is Taki Inoues complete name?
Takachiho Inoue. Not Takia, Takecheco, Takahshi or Worst F1 Driver.

14) Name the two founders of Simtek.
Nick Wirth was well-known. The other one was Max Mosley.

15) Name the two occassions during the 90s when two successive races were held in the same country.
The two races in Germany were never held as two successive races, neither two British or Spanish rounds. The answers were Suzuka and Aida in 1995, and the Australian GP in 1995 and 1996.

16) What was controversial about the 1995 Ligier car?
Ligier and Benetton were both owned by Flavio Briatore. As a result, the two cars looked very similar.

17) For which team was Hideki Noda supposed to drive a part of the 1995 season?
He was supposed to drive for Simtek in the second half of the season, but the team was dead before Noda ever raced for them.

18) Who gave his comeback in 1992 after ten years?
Jan Lammers, for March.

19) Marco Apicella did only a few meters of racing in Formula 1, but tested for three teams which never raced. Name them.
I was looking for never raced cars. Well known was Dome, a few people knew FIRST, but no one knew GLAS, the team for whom the Modena was originally designed.

20) Who wanted to run the Lola T97/30s in 1998?
Zoran Stefanovic wanted to run those cars in 1998. Despite them being horribly uncompetetive, and the changing regulations for 1998.

21) Who finished a race despite doing a backflip after a collision with his teammate?
On the final lap of the 1993 Italian GP, Christian Fittipaldi hit the back of Pierluigi Martini's car and flipped. The car landed on its wheels and rolled over the finish line.

22) Which team was the first one to use a KERS-System in Formula 1, and in which race?
McLaren brought a KERS-System at the 1998 Australian GP. After they took a dominant 1-2, the system was banned, and KERS didn't return until 2009.

23) Which team planned to run its F1 effort from the suburbs of Sydney?
It was the Spice team, known as a sportscar constructor, who planned to set up an F1 team in Sydney.

24) Which changes to the cars were made for the Spanish GP in 1994, following the death of Ayrton Senna?
The diffuser size was reduced, the front wings were made smaller, and the front wing end plates were raised.

25) Which three circuits had additional temporary chicanes built into them following Senna's and Ratzenberger's fatal accidents?
Spain, Montreal and the terrible chicane which was built into Eau Rouge. By 1996, all these chicanes were luckily gone again.

26) Which race saw so many stop-and-go penalties that the drivers had to form a queue in the penalty area?
In Monaco 1995, many drivers did a jump start, resulting in so many stop-and-go penalties that the drivers had to queue up.

27) Why did Karl Foitek withdraw his money from Onyx in 1990?
Karl Foitek thought that the car, with damage not being repaired properly, had become a death trap. He didn't want his son to drive it any more, so he withdrew his money and the team had to fold down.

28) Which Larrousse co-owner used a hand grenade to escape from a raid on his house in 1992?
No, it wasn't Didier Calmels. Calmels was the one who was sent to prison for shooting his wife, but he never used a hand grenade. In September 1992, Venturi sold their shares in the team to Rainer Walldorf. But Rainer Walldorf's real name was Klaus Walz, and he was wanted in several european countries, due to his connections to four murders. When the french police raided his house, he threatened to blow them up with a hand grenade, unless they let him escape. He took the police chief hostage, and fled. He later threw the hand grenade into a chicken coop. Walz was killed a month later in a nine-hour battle with the german police.

29) Which Formula 1 car was transformed into a sports car and ran in the Interserie championship from 1994 to 1997?
It was the Fondmetal, and it looked horrible.

30) Students of which University were involved in designing the Coloni C4?
The University of Perugia. Sounds like a cool project for students, doesn't it? Even if its a backmarker team.

Answers: the 1950s
I will write out everyone's answers (anonymously) by order of least to most correct, and then give the correct answer.

1. Which Grand Prix saw four unrelated drivers with the same last name on the entry list, and who were the four drivers? (0.2 points for each correct part)

I ahven't a clue here. Honestly. You may as well have asked about sparrows. I'm going to take a punt and say Graham and Phil Hill were 2 of the drivers.

1959 BRITISH GRAND PRIX,WITH GRAHAM,PHIL AND TWO OTHER HILLS.(no mountains,though)

Surname was Taylor; Mark, Jonathan... uhh... Matt and Cameron. oh yeah and Senna

It was a British GP, but I'm unsure about the year. 58 I guess? Their surname was Taylor.I think three of them were called Trevor, Mike and John.

I am going to guess a British Grand Prix of some description, because I believe the surname was Taylor. Mike Taylor (who sued Lotus a few years later) and Trevor Taylor were a couple, but I don't know the others.

1959 British Grand Prix? With John Taylor, Trevor Taylor, Mike Taylor and Henry Taylor (as I'm fairly sure these 4 raced against each other)

1959 British GP. Taylor. Dennis, Mike, Henry, Trevor (only remember this as it was a question on a radio show once about sportsman with the same names...)

Most of you knew that it was a British Grand Prix with four Taylors, but only one of you got it spot on. Out of the four Taylors in the 1959 British Grand Prix, Trevor and Mike were the easiest to find, Henry Taylor was found twice, while only one of you remembered Dennis Taylor. All four would have very different careers afterwards: Trevor signed for Team Lotus and scored a single championship podium and a few non-championship wins, Henry stayed in F1 for two more years with Parnell and BRP before retiring after Wolfgang von Trips' fatal accident, Mike suffered career-ending injuries in practice for the 1960 Belgian Grand Prix when his steering failed and Dennis returned to Formula Junior, dying in an accident at Monaco in 1962. No Hills involved.

2. When was an Alta engine last used in Formula One? (I'm looking for the year)

1954?

1954

1957

1957

1957. Seems about right. (Who am I kidding)

1959

1959, in a Connaught

Season wide 1958 (in a Bernie Ecclestone team...), single race 1959. However it was raced in non championship F1 races in the 1960s.... Geoff Richardson (who I used if you rememer and used the Alta engine...) raced it in three non championship races

The Alta was used in the championship on-and-off in various Altas, HWMs, Connaughts, Coopers and Emerysons until the 1959 United States Grand Prix, with Bob Said's Connaught-Alta crashing out. The Alta lived on in non-championship races until 1961.

3. What did HWM stand for?

Hi, Where's Mikey?

Humongous Whale Motors?

High Velocity Magpies.

HENRY WALKER MOTORSPORTS

Hersham and Walker Motors?

Hersham and Walton Motors

Hersham and Walton Motors

Hersham and Walton Racing (they still exist as an Aston Martin dealer, I have visited their dealership in Walton, Surrey many years ago... they have their car on display)

I thought this would be one of the easier ones... As three of you found it, it was indeed Hersham and Walton Motors, founded by John Heath and George Abecassis between Hersham and Walton-on-Thames, hence the name. The constructor competed from 1951 until 1955, when it pulled out of Formula One, continuing sportscar activities. John Heath died in the 1956 Mille Miglia, and the racing team folded the following year. HWM lives on as the world's oldest Aston Martin dealership.

4. Who was the youngest driver to start the first Formula One World Championship Grand Prix?

Sebastian, Count Vettel of Hockenheim? Seriously though, Stirling Moss. Hopefully.

Mike Hawthorn

I am pretty sure it is Peter Collins

Harry Schell?

Bob Gerard?

Toulo de Granffenried?

Claes? I'm sure there was probably someone younger, but they're too obscure for me.

TONY ROLT?

I was actually expecting that someone would get this one... The answer was Geoff Crossley, who was two days shy of 29 years old at the time. He gave up on racing later that year, before making a brief and unsuccessful comeback in 1955. He died in 2002.

5. Not counting the Indianapolis 500, who were the five youngest drivers to start a Formula One race in the 1950s? (0.2 points per correct answer)

Ah. I do appear to have come slightly unstuck.

Pfft...I have absolutely no idea

Mike Hawthorn, Senna

Stirling Moss was quite young when he started, I think. Jack Brabham too. And definitely Bruce McLaren.

BRUCE MCLAREN,JACK BRABHAM,GRAHAM HILL,JIM CLARK,STIRLING MOSS

Harry Schell, Stirling Moss, Stuart Lewis-Evans, Mike Hawthorn, Peter Collins

Bruce McLaren, Peter Collins, Mike Hawthorn, Stirling Moss, Tony Brooks (Yeah I know, but one or two of them are bound to be right).

Bruce McLaren, Masten Gregory, Mike Hawthorn, Sterling Moss, Peter Collins

While Mike Hawthorn was a good educated guess, he was only ninth on the list, at 23 years, 2 months and 12 days old. Jack Brabham was much older, at 29 years of age on début, as was Graham Hill, while Jim Clark didn't make his début until 1960. Other wrong answers were Stuart Lewis-Evans (27 years and 29 days), Tony Brooks (24 years, 4 months and 19 days) and Masten Gregory (25 years, 2 months and 20 days). Of the five I was looking for, Stirling Moss and Bruce McLaren were the easiest, both tied for fourth at 21 years, 8 months and 10 days old. Peter Collins was the youngest, at 20 years, 6 months and 10 days followed by the two unguessed drivers Fritz d'Orey (21 years, 3 months and 10 days) and Chris Bristow (21 years, 7 months and 16 days). The top ten was rounded out by Jacques Pollet, Jimmy Stewart, Cesare Perdisa, Mike Hawthorn and John Barber.

6. How many different constructors were represented in the 1957 Argentine Grand Prix?

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16

SEVERAL,SO I SAY 13

7

Five? Just a guess.

Total guess - Five.

3

Three (Ferrari, Maserati, Vanwall)

The Argentine GP never had too many constructors present, the British teams giving it a wide berth until the 60s... I think it would have just been Ferrari and Maserati?

If the question was asked, that meant that the answer was notable. A few of you correctly guessed that the number was very small, but only one of you found the correct answer, as the 13-car grid was indeed composed of only Ferraris and Maseratis.

7. Name the two drivers who completed the 1955 Argentine Grand Prix without sharing a car. (0.5 points per correct answer)

Senna obviously

MAURICE TRINTIGNANT AND ANOTHER FRENCHIE, PHILLIPE ETANCELIN?

Fangio, and some other guy

Fangio & some other bloke. I'll guess Trintignant.

Hmmn. Juan Manuel Fangio I belive was a bit of a car robber, the weasly old git. However I dont know anyone else who was in this race.... Alberto Ascari? Stirling Moss? Michael Schumacher?

Fangio and Moss?

Juan Manuel Fangio. The second one maybe Roberto Mieres?

Juan Manuel Fangio and Roberto Mieres.

Most of you found Fangio, who won the race. Of the 7 cars to finish the race, five were shared and four of them were shared by three different drivers. The other driver to soldier on and finish the race by himself was Roberto Mieres, in fifth position, as a couple of you correctly answered.

8. Given one more lap, who would have won the 1958 Belgian Grand Prix?

Michael Schumacher

Senna obviously

Johnny Claes

Roy Salvadori (I don't know so I am going with the Cynon defence)

DUNNO,TBH,SO I'LL STAB AT MIKE HAWTHORN

Mike Hawthorn

To be fair, the answer wouldn't have been found on the internet. I got the answer from the book "The Formula One Miscellany" by John White, which says that Tony Brooks' gearbox was practically seized, while Mike Hawthorn's engine blew just before the finish line (allowing him to coast to second place) and Stuart Lewis-Evans broke a steering arm just as he crossed the line. Therefore, the win would have gone to Cliff Allison, who would have scored his and Lotus' maiden victory.

9. Which driver has the only 100% start/podium ratio (not including Indianapolis)?

Michael Schumacher

Senna

Karl Kling?

Fagioli, don't remember his first name.

Dorino Serafini

Dorino Serafini

DORINO SERAFINI

As a few of you correctly answered , it was indeed Dorino Serafini, who finished second in his only start, the 1950 Italian Grand Prix in a shared drive with Alberto Ascari.

10. Name the seven drivers who shared the point for fastest lap in the 1954 British Grand Prix. (0.14 points for every correct answer)

One of them is probably Senna because as we all know, Senna = god

Lewis Hamilton, Andrea de Cesaris, Jean Denis Deletraz, Sammy Jones, Phoenix McAllister and two versions of Michael Schumacher became trapped in a time paradox.

Ascari, and 6 other people who weren't Ascari

Alberto Ascari, Juan Manuel Fangio, Stirling Moss

Hawthorn, Moss, Musso, Fangio, David Leslie, Andy Rouse, John Cleland.

ALBERTO ASCARI,NINO FARINA,JUAN MANUEL FANGIO,MIKE HAWTHORN,LUIGI MUSSO,B. BIRA AND DE GRAFFENREID?

Ascari, Bira, Fangio, Hawthorn, Moss, Parnell, Salvadori

Fangio, Moss, Ascari, Hawthorn, Kling, Villoresi, Trintignant

Alberto Ascari, Sterling Moss, Mike Hawthorn, Juan Manual Fangio, Jean Behra

Ascari was the most-guessed driver, probably because he only got points for fastest laps that season. Fangio, Moss and Hawthorn were also often answered, each correctly, while of the remaining three, only one of you found one of them. They were Jean Behra, Onofre Marimon and José Froilan Gonzalez.

11. Who is the only driver to have led a lap in a Talbot-Lago?

Probably you, ya damn commie

I don't know, Mr. tomykl. You tell me.

De Graffenreid?

MAURICE TRINTIGNANT

Some French Guy, Rosier?

Louis Rosier

Raymond Sommer maybe?

Louis Rosier would have been a good educated guess with his two podiums in the cars, but the correct answer was Raymond Sommer, who led five laps in the 1950 Belgian Grand Prix before suffering one of four Talbot engine failures that Sunday.

12. What constructor was founded by Piero Dusio?

NO CLUE

Probably isn't so easy but Dusio?

Dusio Racing Automible Cars Inc?

Tec-Mec

OSCA

Cisitalia?

Cisitalia

Unsurprisingly, Dusio was not the correct answer. This wasn't supposed to be one of the easier questions, but two of you managed to answer the question nonetheless. The answer was Cisitalia, founded in 1946, which dominated the post-war Formula 2 scene before dropping in performance before the start of the championship. Dusio commissioned Ferdinand Porsche to design a competitive Formula One car, the 360, but the complex design proved ruinous for Cisitalia. The old D46 made a championship appearance in Italy in 1952 (it failed to qualify), but the company folded in 1963.

13. Who was the first driver to be disqualified from a World Championship race?

A very naughty one.

LOUIS CHIRON(wild guess)

Etancelin

Luigi Musso, for being a brat.

Jack Brabham

Not sure but it was in 1952

Felice Bonetto

The answer was actually given out in the Unusual F1 Stats thread... It was indeed Felice Bonetto who was disqualified in the 1952 German Grand Prix for getting a push-start from track-side supporters after a first-lap spin. Chiron, Etancelin and Musso were never disqualified, and Brabham only in 1960.

14. Why was the Alfa Romeo 158 called the 158?

Differentiate themselves from Porsche

IT TOOK 158 HOURS TO BUILD FROM SCRATCH?

Because that was its top speed?

Because they'd already used 157

Size of it's engine? (1.5 litre supercharged lump)

Because of its 1.5 Liter V8 engine

Pretty sure it was 1.5 Litres and had a 8 cylinder engine?

It had an 8 cylinder 1.5 Litre engine

1.5 litre 8 cylinder engine.

It was indeed named that way because of its engine, a 1.5 liter straight-8. Incidentally, the 159 was named because it was one more than 158...

15. Name the four drivers with the most starts without a point in the 1950s (points scored later do not count) (0.25 points per correct answer)

Roy Salvadori

Johnny Claes... and..... Michael Schumacher?

Johnny Claes had quite a long career without points, so I guess him.

JOHNNY CLAES AND THREE OTHERS WHO I DON'T KNOW

Graham Hill (because he drove a Lotus before they knew what reliability was), Johnny Claes, dunno any others

Johnny Claes, Graham Hill, John Taylor, Steve Soper

Geoff Richardson (just because I remember him), Johhny Clase (50s reject), Graham Hill (I remember he was rubbish until the 60s), Caroll Shelby (just remember he also did a number of GPs without success)

Due to his reputation on this forum, Johnny Claes was found by almost everyone who cared to answer the question (aside from a certain American ), and he topped the list with 23 starts without a point. Graham Hill was second on the list with 16 starts without a point, and was found by three of you. No one found the other two: Lance Macklin with 13 starts and André Simon with 11. Of the other given answers, Carroll Shelby was tied fifth with Bob Gerard on 8 starts, while John Taylor only started racing in the mid-60s and Geoff Richardson never started a World Championship race. I won't even start with Steve Soper.

16. Which future Ferrari driver drove the uncompetitive Fry in the 1959 British Grand Prix?

I don't know.... but you could say it was a bit of a case of out of the Frying pan.....

Mike Hawthorn?

John Surtees.

Phil Hill?

PHIL HILL

Mike Parkes

Mike Parkes

Good on the two of you who got it, it was (in my opinion) one of the tougher questions out there. It was indeed Mike Parkes, who failed to qualify the Formula 2 car. He reappeared in Formula One seven years later as a works Ferrari driver.

17. Name the four Uruguayan Formula One drivers (0.25 points per correct answer)

Hah, Uruguay...

I didn't know there was even one Uruguayan driver.

Jose Antonio Antonio, Juan Juan, Antonio Antonio and Michael Schumacher

Onofre Marimom?

No idea, lets put in random surnames. Gonzalez, Chicco, Cruz, Tuero

One of them was called Uria.

ALBERTO URIA,EITEL CANTONI,RODOLFO GONZALEZ AND ANOTHER BLOKE.

It's incredible that by inserting random Spanish-sounding last names, one of you still managed to get a quarter of a point... None of you found three, though. The answers, in chronological order, were Eitel Cantoni, Alberto Uria, Oscar Gonzalez and Asdrubal Fontes Bayardo. Rodolfo Gonzalez is Venezuelan

18. Who was Alfa Romeo's reserve driver in the early 50s?

RLY?I HAVE NO IDEA

Michael Schumacher?

Tazio Nuvolari?

Louis Chiron probably.

Parnell?

Felice Bonetto

I wasn't expecting any of you to find it, to be honest. The answer was Gianbattista Guidotti, who was also Tazio Nuvolari's co-driver in the 1930 Mille Miglia.

19. Who regularly set testing times faster than Juan Manuel Fangio despite having never started a competitive motorsport race?

LOOK AT QN. 18

Anthrax Japonica Bolognaise

Michael Schumacher, from his mother's womb. It was a loooong pregnancy.

Senna (Take that as a jab against his era )

Roy Salvadori?

Bernie Ecclestone

I stayed relatively vague in the question because saying more would be somewhat of a giveaway. The answer was Rudolf Uhlenhaut, the Mercedes-Benz designer who penned the W196 among others. A talented driver in his own right, he often conducted test runs himself and showed very impressive pace, faster than the team's race drivers, including Fangio himself. He never started a competitive race because Mercedes wanted him to avoid any injury.

20. Name the four drivers who started at least one Grand Prix for Ecurie Espadon. (0.25 points per correct answer)

What on earth is an Espadon? Kinda sounds like a cross between a dinosaur and a Renault people carrier.

Michael Schumacher? Riccardo Patrese? Count Vettel?

Senna, Senna, Senna, Roy Salvadori

Er Rosier, Claes, Snell, Gordini

Alfonso De Portago, Felice Bonetto, Onofre Marmom, Umberto Maglioli.

TOULO DE GRAFFENREID AND THREE OTHERS

Rudi Fischer

Wasn't it Rudi Fischers team? About the others, no idea.

I thought most of you would at least remember that it was Rudi Fischer's team, which only two of you did. He entered Ferraris for other amateur Swiss drivers like himself. Other than Fischer, Ecurie Espadon included Peter Hirt, Max de Terra and Rudolf Schoeller. Paul Glauser and Peter Staechelin also entered races, but never starteda championship Grand Prix. Oh, and an Espadon is a swordfish.

21. Who were the first two Spanish Formula One drivers? (0.5 points per correct answer)

Not Senna so who cares

Ah. Easy. Fernando Alonso and Pheonix McAllister. Pfft, thought this was challenging?

Er Campos, Gonzalez

Alfonso De Portago?

Alfonso de Portago and...

Paco Godia

Paco Godia, and some other guy.

PACO GODIA AND SOMEONE ELSE WITH A RATHER FANCY NAME,IIRC.

Three of you found the first one, Paco Godia, whose début came in the 1951 Spanish Grand Prix, the same race that saw the other sought-after Spaniard Juan Jover fail to start due to a blown engine in qualifying. Joaquin Palacio was also entered for the race, but never showed up and isn't counted. Alfonso de Portago didn't make his début until 1956.

22. Which four drivers were known as the "Three Musketeers" in the late 40s and early 50s? (0.25 per correct answer)

I can name the actual Three Muskateers, if you'd prefer?

Snow White and the Seven Dwarves. Possibly.

Senna, Prost, Hamilton, Sennamiltost

Er Hill, Parnell, Salvadori?

Farina, Fangio, Fagiloli, Andy Rouse

LOUIS CHIRON,ALBERTO ASCARI,NINO FARINA,JUAN MANUEL FANGIO(The person who coined that nickname couldn't count)

Fangio, Fagioli, Farina, Gonzales

Robert Manzon, André Simon, Aldo Gordini and Maurice Trintignant

Indeed, the person who coined the nickname couldn't count. The French nature of the original Three Musketeers should have been helpful, but only one of you took the hint and found three of the four drivers. The nickname was in fact given to Gordini's works drivers from 1949, which were Robert Manzon, André Simon, Maurice Trintignant and Jean Behra.

23. Who is the only driver to have been unrejectified without scoring any World Championship points?

A magician, that's for sure!

NO CLUE,THOUGH IT'S SOMEONE FROM 1950

Er Moss

Roy Salvadori? I don't actually know the answer to this one, I'm just guessing because he has a cool name.

Ah. Johnny Claes.

André Simon

Bob Gerard

This wasn't really a trick question, but it sure was a difficult one. It was indeed a driver who scored three sixth places while only the top five scored points, and while André Simon scored two of those, he's still considered a reject. Bob Gerard, however, scored three of those, in Britain 1950 and 1957, as well as Monaco in 1950.

24. Who drove the first rear-engined Formula One car on his début?

Moises Solana?

Jim Clark? Michael Schumacher?

BERNIE ECCLESTONE

Jack Brabham?

Brabham?

Jack Brabham?

Jack Brabham

Stirling Moss?

A lot of you thought of the Cooper T43 as the first rear-engined Formula One car, but the format's début in fact came much earlier than that, in Formula One's second championship race, the 1950 Monaco Grand Prix. A small F2-spec Cooper T12-JAP was entered for Harry Schell, but it was caught up in the first lap mêlée and was never seen again on an F1 grid.

25. Who was the first Portuguese Formula One driver?

I'd tell you I knew the answer to this one. But I'd be lying!

No idea

DAMMIT,I KNOW THIS....BUT I FORGOT. :\

So it wasn't Pedro Chaves? Bathplug...

Er, no idea, Chaves?

de Oliveira, don't remember his first name though.

I don't remember his first name, but I know it looked kinda like "Casper", but the surname was de Oliviera.

To be honest, when I thought of this question, I was convinced the answer was Mario de Araujo Cabral. As it turned out, some bloke called Casimiro de Oliveira entered the Portuguese Grand Prix one year previously, failing to qualify, and therefore counting as the first Portuguese Formula One driver.

26. What was Troy Ruttman's best Formula One result outside of the Indy 500?

Kay Lon wasn't the first German F1RWRS winner, by the way.

DNQ

A retirement?

4th

15th

9th?

10th

10th

Ruttman's brief European foray was one to forget, consisting of two entries, in France and Germany. The engine failed before the start at the Nürburgring, while Troy managed to finish in tenth position in France for Scuderia Centro Sud, what would be his best result in Europe.

27. How did Harry Schell suddenly gain six seconds in one lap during qualifying for his home race in 1959?

He got into his car.

Schell concentrated hard, and the voice of Jeremy Clarkson broke through his psyche. "POWERRRR" cried the voice, and Schell immediately put the car into "sports" mode and really took the car by the scruff of the neck. The lap was perfect; Schell breathed a sigh of relief. Power was the key.

HE SPUN ON ONE LAP,NEXT LAP HE DIDN'T. EITHER THAT OR HE WAS DRIVING AN EARLY PROTOTYPE OF THE FLUX CAPACITOR.

Because the organisers wanted an American on the front row, so they quietly docked 6 seconds from his time to put him onto the front row.

Cut through the pits

Taking a short cut?

He cut the course.

He cut a corner

I assume that he went down a sliproad and miss an entire section of the track?

During qualifying, he ran down an escape road and found that it led further up the track. In the final moments of qualifying, he used this shortcut to gain six seconds and a few grid spots. The debate regarding this creative use of track limits raged, as championship contender Tony Brooks was bumped down to the second row of the grid, but Schell was allowed to keep his third place on the grid, much to Ferrari's chagrin.

28. Who is credited with the quote: "I've got to hand it to you. Those European buggies sure take corners fast!"?

Enzo Ferrari.

A non-European by the name of Fangio, perhaps?

FIREBALL ROBERTS?

AJ Foyt?

I guess Rodger Ward, because he drove both the 500 and normal F1 races.

Rodger ward

Rodger Ward

Rodger Ward

The answer was indeed Rodger Ward, who uttered the phrase in the general direction of Bruce McLaren and Jack Brabham after practice for the 1959 US Grand Prix, where his midget was passed by the much quicker mid-engined Coopers. Ward had naively thought that his dirt car had more grip in the turns.

29. Which Formula One driver won the 1949 Motorcycle Grand Prix World Championship in the 125cc class?

Ol' "Two Wheels" McClenaghan. He was a rascal off the track, with his Irish eyes smiling as the young ladies who frequented the circuit were taken in by his charm. However, if you gave some wheels and an engine, he was a speed demon. He found two wheels just as easy as four, and had the greatest mechanical sympathy known to man. The paddock seemed the Irishman a superhero, but McClenaghan was just content to drive or ride his heart out.

Senna OBVIOUSLY

Stirling Moss.

Stirling Moss

He was probably much later, Paddy Driver?

John Surtees maybe?

JOHN SURTEES?

Stirling Moss never rode motorcycles, Paddy Driver didn't ride until 1958 and John Surtees until 1952. The answer was in fact Nello Pagani, who also scored the most points in the 500cc category that same year, only to lose out to Les Graham on dropped points. Pagani started one Formula One Grand Prix, the 1950 Swiss Grand Prix, finishing seventh.

30. Which driver shares the name of the keyboardist in the Supernaturals and the disputed first king of Scots?

Storytime's over now, I got nothing. Something like Wee Jock McStabbie?

Oh, I was hoping this question would come up!!! I love the Supernaturals....except I havent even heard of them. Oh, I don't know. Jerome D'Ambrosio? You?

SINCE I DON'T KNOW THE SUPERNATURALS OR SCOTLAND,I DON'T KNOW THIS DRIVER.

Steve Soper

Graham Hill

Ken McAlpine?

Ken McAlpine

Ken McAlpine

I'm surprised East Londoner didn't get that one... It was indeed Ken McAlpine, who had an unsuccessful fling as works Connaught driver in the early 50s, facilitated by his role as financial backer to the team. McAlpine then concentrated on other businesses after Connaught's eventual demise, and is now the fourth oldest living Formula One driver, behind Robert Manzon, Eric Thompson and Tony Crook.

As promised, the three members who made me laugh the most get bonus points: Ataxia gets 3, East Londoner gets 2 and pasta_maldonado gets 1.

Final scores
1. pi314159 - 13.72
2. East Londoner - 9.63
3. SuperAguri - 9.17
4. peteroli34 - 7.21
5. Ataxia - 7.04
6. Enforcer - 4.92
7. Cynon - 4.2
8. WaffleCat 3.28
9. pasta_maldonado - 1.75

tommykl wrote:Answers: the 1950s
I will write out everyone's answers (anonymously) by order of least to most correct, and then give the correct answer.
19. Who regularly set testing times faster than Juan Manuel Fangio despite having never started a competitive motorsport race?

Anthrax Japonica Bolognaise

This sounds very much like a Rob Lomas-type made-up name...

As there's a bit of a lull, I'll post my "COMMERCIAL" quiz. It focuses mostly on team sponsors, but there's a few questions in there about team owners and the cost involved in F1.

1. Which Japanese company took over ownership of the Brabham team in 1989?
2. Brawn GP's primary sponsors were Virgin, Canon and MIG Investments. At the Brazilian GP, the cars ran with different sponsors on the car. Name the 2 main brands that featured (1 point for giving the correct sponsors, no half points)
3. Behind Marlboro, which cigarette brand has featured on the race winning car the most times? (There are 2 brands on the same number of wins - name one of them only for 1 point)
4. In a famous photograph, Andrea de Cesaris is crashing into a tyre barrier and a corporate mascot on a hoarding looks like it is running away from the crash. Who is this mascot?
5. Onyx ran blue and pink cars during the days of Moneytron sponsorship. What actually was the Moneytron?
6. Leyton House and Jordan were both sponsored by a company called Osama. What line of business are Osama involved in?
7. McLaren ran TAG-Porsche engines during the turbo era. Who are TAG and why weren't the engines just called Porsche?
8. Name the title sponsors over the years for the original Team Lotus (0.17 points per correct answer)
9. Which drinks brand sponsors Felipe Massa?
10. Jordan were famous for coming up with amusing ways of censoring their Benson & Hedges sponsorship at certain races. What words did they change Benson & Hedges to in the 1997-2005 seasons? (there were 4 variations, so 0.25 points per correct answer)
11. Flavio Briatore held what position at United Colours of Benetton?
12. How did Chanoch Nissany make his millions?
13. The majority of F1 race broadcasts are now produced by Formula One Management. The Japanese Grand Prix was one of the last to change over from "home broadcasting". What year was the last year that FujiTV were responsible for the TV production for the Japanese Grand Prix?
14. In euros (to the nearest €1m), how much money did Fernando Alonso get his thumbs insured for with Santander?
15. Until he changed it more recently, which sponsor for many years featured prominently on Niki Lauda's famous red cap?
16. What is the advertising hoarding displayed at the Wall of Champions at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve?
17. Why did Hideki Noda's sponsors not pay up their sponsorship money in 1995, which prevented him from getting a drive at Simtek and ultimately contributed to the team's downfall?
18. Which company was the main sponsor appearing on the prototype DAMS GD-01 F1 car?
19. Yardley, one of the world's oldest toiletry brands, were the title sponsors of 2 teams successively in the 1970s?. Which teams were they? (Both teams please for the point)
20. Name any 3 team owners that have been arrested and/or have spent time in jail (0.33 points per correct answer)
21. Red Bull's F1 motorhome, known as the Energy Station, cost how much money (to the nearest €m)?
22. Rob Walker famously ran privateer Lotuses and Coopers during the 50s and the 60s. How was he able to finance his team?
23. Name any of the sponsors featuring on the Life L190 car during the 1990 season (please give one answer only - a correct answer gets one point)
24. What was the first sponsor to be seen on a works Ferrari car?
25. In a late 90s advert for Siemens, Mika Hakkinen drives his McLaren into a town and stops off somewhere, before driving off and rejoining the race. Where does he stop off?
26. European Aviation, Paul Stoddart's airline company, was operated out of which UK airport?
27. Which car (constructor, plus season or chassis name) was the last race winning car to feature alcohol sponsorship?
28. Name all of the movie tie-in liveries ran by the Jaguar and Red Bull teams at Monaco Grands Prix (0.33 points per correct answer).
29. Name the three Formula 1 constructors whose main business was as wheel rim manufacturers (name all 3 for 1 point)
30. To the nearest £1m, what was the average hosting fee charged by The Formula One Group to grand prix promoters in 2011?

Please PM me your answers by the end of Sunday 15th December.

Isn't the driver in Q4 Rene Arnoux rather than De Cesaris?

dr-baker wrote:

tommykl wrote:Answers: the 1950s
I will write out everyone's answers (anonymously) by order of least to most correct, and then give the correct answer.
19. Who regularly set testing times faster than Juan Manuel Fangio despite having never started a competitive motorsport race?

Anthrax Japonica Bolognaise

This sounds very much like a Rob Lomas-type made-up name...

That's EXACTLY what it is...

@watka: Answers sent.

Nope, I'm definitely sure it's De Cesaris. If it helps, he was in an Alfa Romeo at Zandvoort. Don't look up the answer though!

Watka, sorry for the first PM, which just contains the questions, I made a typo in the title and accidentially hit return instead of backspace.

That was a lot harder than I thought it would be...

Just sent my answers for the 1960s quiz and the commericial quiz. I'm fairly certain I should get points for my mention of Vic Lee in the second one.

It's amazing how unfunny the attempts at humour in Tommy's answers are.

OK, I think that's enough time to release the answers and the results of the commercial round.

1. Which Japanese company took over ownership of the Brabham team in 1989?
Middlebridge were the distinctively un-Japanese sounding engineering firm

2. Brawn GP's primary sponsors were Virgin, Canon and MIG Investments. At the Brazilian GP, the cars ran with different sponsors on the car. Name the 2 main brands that featured.
The answer that I was looking for was Itaipava and Mapfre. TNT did also appear on the car but was not as prominent as the other 2 sponsors. My answer is final.

3. Behind Marlboro, which cigarette brand has featured on the race winning car the most times?
I don't think people quite understood that I only wanted you to name one of the two (for people who gave 2 answers, I gave them half marks). Surprisingly, John Player Special is not a correct answer. Some of you correctly guessed West. I don't remember anyone putting Mild Seven, the other correct answer.

4. In a famous photograph, Andrea de Cesaris is crashing into a tyre barrier and a corporate mascot on a hoarding looks like it is running away from the crash. Who is this mascot?
It was of course the Michelin Man, or as tommykl pointed out, Bibendum (his official name)

5. Onyx ran blue and pink cars during the days of Moneytron sponsorship. What actually was the Moneytron?
I was pretty strict with this one. I only gave the point if you should that is was a super-computer system that predicted stock markets and that said computer didn't actually exist; it was a hoax.

6. Leyton House and Jordan were both sponsored by a company called Osama. What line of business are Osama involved in?
I gave anything along the lines of "stationery" or "writing instruments" a point.

7. McLaren ran TAG-Porsche engines during the turbo era. Who are TAG and why weren't the engines just called Porsche?
Again, I was fairly strict was this (I think I gave one person a half point, but otherwise everyone else was right or wrong). TAG was a Luxembourg based investment company, best known for being associated with TAG Heuer timepieces. They were TAG-Porsches rather than just Porsches as Porsche wanted to protect their reputation in case they made a duff engine.

8. Name the title sponsors over the years for the original Team Lotus
A lot of people got 5 out of 6, but no one got 6 out of 6. Chronologically; Gold Leaf, John Player, Martini, Essex Petroleum, Camel, Castrol. Castrol was the hard one, it's not often mentioned that they were title sponsors, but this image shows that they were.

9. Which drinks brand sponsors Felipe Massa?
I thought a lot of people might put Guarana, but you didn't! The correct answer is TNT.

10. Jordan were famous for coming up with amusing ways of censoring their Benson & Hedges sponsorship at certain races. What words did they change Benson & Hedges to in the 1997-2005 seasons?
Bitten & Hisses, Buzzin' Hornets, Bitten Heroes and Be On Edge were the variants.

11. Flavio Briatore held what position at United Colours of Benetton?
Different one. He was Director of American operations before being embroiled in Formula 1.

12. How did Chanoch Nissany make his millions?
I gave points to anyone who said UPEX and/or manufacturing cosmetics, food, textiles, plastics etc

13. The majority of F1 race broadcasts are now produced by Formula One Management. The Japanese Grand Prix was one of the last to change over from "home broadcasting". What year was the last year that FujiTV were responsible for the TV production for the Japanese Grand Prix?
It was in fact 2011

14. In euros (to the nearest €1m), how much money did Fernando Alonso get his thumbs insured for with Santander?
€10m, which surely is far less than the lost salary if he lost his thumbs...

15. Until he changed it more recently, which sponsor for many years featured prominently on Niki Lauda's famous red cap?
Traditionally, Parmalat has featured on his cap.

16. What is the advertising hoarding displayed at the Wall of Champions at Circuit Gilles Villeneuve?
Bienvenue au Quebec, or Welcome to Quebec in English.

17. Why did Hideki Noda's sponsors not pay up their sponsorship money in 1995, which prevented him from getting a drive at Simtek and ultimately contributed to the team's downfall?
Unfortunately, an earthquake in Kobe, Japan ruined a lot of his sponsors' businesses

18. Which company was the main sponsor appearing on the prototype DAMS GD-01 F1 car?
I think this is the one most people got correct. The answer is Elf.

19. Yardley, one of the world's oldest toiletry brands, were the title sponsors of 2 teams successively in the 1970s?. Which teams were they?
A very British company first sponsored the very British BRM team, before moving on to McLaren.

20. Name any 3 team owners that have been arrested and/or have spent time in jail
I don't have a full list but I imagine its pretty long! Correct answers given were Cyril de Rouvre, Didier Calmels, Jean-Pierre Van Rossem, Andrea Sassetti, Akira Akagi, and Joaquim Luhti

21. Red Bull's F1 motorhome, known as the Energy Station, cost how much money (to the nearest €m)?
This one proved pretty difficult to guess. The answer is a supposed €15m.

22. Rob Walker famously ran privateer Lotuses and Coopers during the 50s and the 60s. How was he able to finance his team?
He was heir to the Johnnie Walker whisky empire.

23. Name any of the sponsors featuring on the Life L190 car during the 1990 season
You could have had any of the following: Agip (what most of you plumbed for), Raid, Albini & Fontanot, Life - PIC, Goodyear, Beta Tools, ICM, Champion, TDD, Nardi Borelli, Brembo, RCM Motoscope, Faren, Clevite, Koni, Port to Port

24. What was the first sponsor to be seen on a works Ferrari car?
A lot of people put Agip for this as well! No one seemed to know for sure, but some guessed correctly with Shell

25. In a late 90s advert for Siemens, Mika Hakkinen drives his McLaren into a town and stops off somewhere, before driving off and rejoining the race. Where does he stop off?
A café, where he specifically has an espresso.

26. European Aviation, Paul Stoddart's airline company, was operated out of which UK airport?
Well done to DavidAGS, the only person to know it was Bournemouth

27. Which car (constructor, plus season or chassis name) was the last race winning car to feature alcohol sponsorship?
It was the McLaren MP4-26 from the 2011 season

28. Name all of the movie tie-in liveries ran by the Jaguar and Red Bull teams at Monaco Grands Prix
I can't even remember what I gave points for here! The correct answer is Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith, Superman Returns and Ocean's Twelve. I think I gave points for just "Star Wars" and for just "Superman", but no points for "Ocean's Eleven" or "Ocean's Thirteen".

29. Name the three Formula 1 constructors whose main business was as wheel rim manufacturers
ATS, Rial and Fondmetal. Don't argue with me about it.

30. To the nearest £1m, what was the average hosting fee charged by The Formula One Group to grand prix promoters in 2011?
I don't think anyone was ever going to get this. It's £17m.


The results are as follows (I will do a recount by request!):
Ataxia - 16
tommykl - 13.87
DavidAGS - 12.83
Dinizintheoven - 12.83
East Londoner - 12.16
Enforcer - 9.92
pi314159 - 9.92
WaffleCat - 8.67
Klon - 7.17
UgncreatuveUsergname - 2.91!

So Ataxia wins by a relatively comfortable margin!

watka wrote:13. The majority of F1 race broadcasts are now produced by Formula One Management. The Japanese Grand Prix was one of the last to change over from "home broadcasting". What year was the last year that FujiTV were responsible for the TV production for the Japanese Grand Prix?
It was in fact 2011

I can tell by the fact that having taking over from 2012 FOM don't use the beautiful shot at the start Fuji used for their world feed, which shows the cars running down the hill towards the camera, which then follows them flying into turn 1. Now they flick to a stupid aerial camera within a second of the lights going out. Thanks FOM for ruining it for me.

Hi guys, I've taken the liberty of writing another round for the off-season quiz, this time loosely based on nationality. Have a go, hopefully it's not as hard as my last one!

1. Who is statistically the most successful Irish Formula One driver (that is, the Republic of Ireland, not Northern Ireland)?
2. Which country has supplied the most drivers to Formula One without ever producing a champion?
3. Which nationality has the most Grand Prix entries without ever producing a Grand Prix winner?
4. Excluding Japanese drivers, which Asian driver has been the most successful in Formula One?
5. Which Grand Prix has been won most frequently by a “home driver”?
6. Who was the last Italian to win the Italian Grand Prix?
7. Who was the last Italian to win the San Marino Grand Prix?
8. Which country has had the most constructor race entrants (one car counting as one entry) without a win?
9. Which national anthem played for the constructor Shadow when they achieved their one and only Grand Prix victory at the 1977 Austrian Grand Prix?
10. What constructor is the only Formula One team to have been registered in Hong Kong?
11. Under what 2 nationalities did Bertrand Gachot race in his career?
12. What country was Bertrand Gachot born in?
13. What flag was represented on Bertrand Gachot’s helmet?
14. Bertrand Gachot…only kidding. Based on current day borders, which country was Mario Andretti born in?
15. If West Germany and East Germany still existed as separate countries, how many Grand Prix victories could be attributed to East German drivers?
16. Which country has used the most number of circuits to hold Grand Prix?
17. What is “rosso corsa”?
18. Of the 64 World Championships so far, the title has been won a record 14 times by British drivers. Which nationality holds the record for the number of times as runner-up?
19. Which is the most recent non-European constructor to have won a Grand Prix?
20. Which track is commonly mistaken to have overlapped a national border (it only did so in an old configuration that Formula One never raced on)?
21. Excluding Indy 500 winners, name the 5 American drivers to have won a Grand Prix.
22. Name any one of the British constructors to have taken part in the inaugural 1950 Formula One World Championship.
23. Why was the Swedish Grand Prix axed from the world championship?
24. Which driver was the first non-American to compete in the Indy 500 whilst it was a Formula One championship event?
25. Bahrain, Luxembourg, Monaco and San Marino are all very small countries that have held or given name to a Grand Prix event. From largest to smallest, order these countries in size.
26. North American Racing Team ran Ferrari’s in Formula One as a privateer entrant. What was their column scheme?
27. Which Grand Prix has been red flagged the most times?
28. In which city is the FIA based?
29. Which country hosted Africa’s first Formula One championship event?
30. Which season marked the occasion of Formula One having finally visited an event in event continent (besides Antarctica)?

Thank you for creating another quiz. I've sent my answers.

Clarification on Question 18: What I'm talking about is the nationality of drivers finishing 2nd in the championship (which nationality comes up the most?). If you which to resubmit an answer for this question, PM me.

And also Question 30: Not the first season that there were races in all continents, rather the time it took for F1 to have held at least one race in each continent.

And obviously I meant "colour scheme" not "column scheme" on Question 26.

Sent my answers, and they're just as rejectful as before!

watka wrote:Clarification on Question 18: What I'm talking about is the nationality of drivers finishing 2nd in the championship (which nationality comes up the most?). If you which to resubmit an answer for this question, PM me.

And also Question 30: Not the first season that there were races in all continents, rather the time it took for F1 to have held at least one race in each continent.

And obviously I meant "colour scheme" not "column scheme" on Question 26.

I understood question 18 just fine, I answered both possibilities for question 30 to avoid confusion and correctly guessed what you meant for question 26...I'm good, then

I take it question 5 means which round has been won most by drivers from that country rather than 1 specific driver? The "a home driver" is rather ambiguous though.

and on question 21, I assume by American you mean the United States and not the American continents!

Shadaza wrote:I take it question 5 means which round has been won most by drivers from that country rather than 1 specific driver? The "a home driver" is rather ambiguous though.

and on question 21, I assume by American you mean the United States and not the American continents!

Yes and yes. It's difficult to write questions as its hard to appreciate how people can interpret them differently!

watka, I hope that you do not object if I decide to revive this thread and throw in some questions of my own (which have something of a technical slant to them).

1) In 1970, Ferrari developed a version of their flat 12 engine which could be used for an unusual use outside of F1 following enquiries from an American investor. What use would that have been for?

2) Cosworth's DFV may have been quite successful, but in 1970 the "bad batch" engines suffered from terrible reliability issues due to premature crankshaft issues. What, according to legend, was the reason for the crankshafts failing so rapidly?

3) In 1979, Ligier encountered a tricky performance problem with the JS11 - on the straights, the car was bottoming out because the car was producing too much downforce. What solution did Ligier devise to get around that issue?

4) In 1982, Alfa Romeo decided to test their turbo engine during the practise sessions for the Italian GP. Since some components were incomplete, what unusual feature did the engine sport for this test session that surprised the rest of the paddock?

5) The use of the engine as a stressed member has been established in many strands of motorsport, including F1, for many years - but which F1 car was the first one designed to do so?

6) Telemetry is now widespread as a means of monitoring the performance of the cars, but which outfit was the first to install a computerised monitoring system on their car?

6) What performance enhancing suspension component did Renault attempt to develop in 1984 that is similar to a system the modern Lotus team developed in recent years?

7) What was the first F1 car to be fitted with a sequential gearbox?

8) In recent years, we have seen that the brake ducts of cars have been covered in an increasing number of aero devices as a way of clawing back downforce. However, which designer was the first to come up with the idea of an aerodynamic brake duct, and what car was it fitted to? (0.5 points each)

9) What was the first car to feature a chassis designed using finite element modelling?

10) The 1976 season saw a number of technical changes as teams experimented with new aerodynamic components, not to mention the mid season regulation changes that took place. What aerodynamic development did some outside observers criticise Ligier for wasting resources on in 1976?

11) How much of Lotus's budget for engines went on developing qualifying spec engines in 1986?

12) There are many development that Ferrari might have made in their long career in the sport, but what technical development did Ferrari only make in 1983 with the 126C3 that their rivals had made around 20 years earlier?

13) Recent years have seen the sport dominated by discussions about the use of blown diffusers, but which outfit is generally accredited with having been the first to invent an exhaust blown diffuser, and what was the first car that it was fitted to? (0.5 points each)

14) Following on from that, which two teams were, until Red Bull revised the trick in recent years, the last to switch from blown diffusers to the "periscope" exhausts that were common in the 2000's? (0.5 points each)

15) During the 1990's the V10 engine became the engine format of choice for many engine manufacturers, although the weight of the engines remained relatively high for a number of years. Which engine manufacturer was the first to claim to have produced a V10 engine that was under the 100kg mark in the 1990's?

16) Gearbox technology has remained relatively static in recent years, but some new developments have come about due to the use of new materials for the casings. Which outfit was the first to develop a carbon fibre gearbox casing?

17) With BMW cashing in on the success of their four cylinder turbo engine in the early 1980's, another manufacturer involved in the sport wished to investigate the possibility of a "stock block" derived four cylinder engine in 1984. However, that manufacturer later reverted to a six cylinder design instead - which manufacturer was it?

18) Who did Matra initially work with to develop their V12 sportscar engine, which was later used in their own works F1 effort, in the late 1960's?

19) We are used to seeing drivers adjusting the brake balance on the cars on track, but which outfit was the first to introduce the technology to F1?

20) Speaking of onboard adjustable devices, what other feature were the drivers of the Lotus 79 able to adjust from the cockpit of the car that is now no longer permitted?

21) Prior to the 1979 season, Ferrari were carrying out track tests for Michelin at Fiorano with cars that had been modified so they could be equipped with monitoring equipment. What experimental feature was fitted to a 312T3 test hack that was used for the first tyre test session?

22) Which car was the first to be fitted with an active suspension system?

23) Ferrari's 2003 car featured a number of developments - what unusual suspension component first made its appearance on the car that season, a solution that was used by Toyota, Midland and Brawn in the early to late 2000's but now appears to have fallen out of use?

24) We are used to seeing slick tyres now, but when were slicks first introduced into F1?

25) In response to aero regulation changes in the mid 1990's, what aerodynamic development appeared on Minardi's M195 that later appeared on the championship winning Ferrari's of the early 2000's?

26) Which outfit was the first to introduce a seven speed gearbox into F1, and who was it manufactured by (0.5 points each)?

27) What was unique about the design of the cylinder block of the Hart 415T turbo engine compared to the other turbo engines in use at the time?

28) In 1981-82, which manufacturer signed a deal to develop a twin turbo V6 engine with Williams only to later be forced into cancelling the deal after a funding row?

29) According to Forghieri, what technological development was initially incorporated into the design for the 312B and the Type 001 engine before being abandoned in 1969?

30) In 1977, Cosworth experimented with a new material for the DFV in an attempt to significantly lighten the engine. Three engines were constructed with a modified component which reduced the engine weight by 20kg but caused considerable tolerance issues - what was the cause of their problems?

No need to apologise! If anything it's acted as a reminder for me to post the answers!

Because we can't have enough quizzes at the same time, here's one about racing quotes. It's very simple: you simply have to answer who is credited with every quote and, if asked, who or what they're talking about.

1. “You seem to have forgotten the chassis in this one, (name)!” Who was it said to? What is it about? (0.33 points per correct answer)
2. “Calling upon my years of experience, I froze at the controls.”
3. “It is amazing how many drivers, even at the Formula One Level, think that the brakes are for slowing the car down.”
4. “If you can leave two black stripes from the exit of one corner to the braking zone of the next, you have enough horsepower.”
5. “When I raced a car last it was at a time when sex was safe and racing was dangerous. Now, it’s the other way round.”
6. “When I started racing my father told me, ‘(name), nobody has three balls but some people have two very good ones.”
7. “The best way to make a small fortune in racing is to start with a large one”
8. “Ferrari’s arse is mine.”
9. “This is beautiful. When do we get ours?” Who was it said to? What is it about? (0.33 points per correct answer)
10. “My cars win races, my drivers lose them”
11. “That's the kind of entertainment I want to give the crowds. Smoke the tyres! Yeah!”
12. “It is useless to put on your brakes when you're upside down.”
13. “You know you're in trouble when the first person to get to you after a wreck is carrying a beer”
14. “Christ - I used to complain that this thing was underpowered, I must have been mad” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
15. “Are you here to race or to crash?”
16. “The little Mexican bastard tried to kill me!” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
17. “I think (name) is sh***ing his pants and mixing up those feelings.” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
18. “Today I want to be eleventh” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
19. “We thought we would give you something heavy to throw at us” Who was it said to? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
20. “Everything was fantastic today. Had a problem with the engine, problem with the brakes, problem with the T-car, couldn't get a clear lap... Everything was fine!”
21. “Its not good. It doesn't turn, it doesn't stop, no traction... Apart from that, its great, having lots of fun!”
22. “He's already an old man and he's still mad!” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
23. “Well, we've obviously chosen him because he's got a quite sensational-looking girlfriend...” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
24. “It's amazing how you can drive a F1 car with no hands when you've just won a Grand Prix.”
25. “He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I've got a hole in my arse.” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)
26. “If Michael does a victory leap on the podium, I'm gonna march there and punch him.” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
27. “I've never seen (name)'s eyes as wide as that... tell a lie; in the West End of London at about 2 in the morning.” Who is it about? What is the context? (0.33 points per correct answer)
28. “No problem. Which circuit am I at?” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
29. “Do I win Rookie of the Year?” What is the context? (0.5 points per correct answer)
30. “He builds fast trucks.” Who is it about? (0.5 points per correct answer)

Answers sent by PM, as usual.

Finally, I get round to posting the answers to the nationalities quiz!:

1. Who is statistically the most successful Irish Formula One driver (that is, the Republic of Ireland, not Northern Ireland)?
Derek Daly, who scored two 4ths, three 5ths and three 6ths. With better luck, he could also have won the 1982 Monaco Grand Prix.

2. Which country has supplied the most drivers to Formula One without ever producing a champion?
Surprisingly it's Switzerland, providing many drivers in the 1950s and 1960s. 24 Swiss have entered F1, with Jo Siffert and Clay Regazzoni being race winners. Belgium was a popular answer, but have had 23 entrants.

3. Which nationality has the most Grand Prix entries without ever producing a Grand Prix winner?
This is of course Japan, being responsible for 577 entries without a win.

4. Excluding Japanese drivers, which Asian driver has been the most successful in Formula One?
I was astonished that everyone seemed to know this! Thai prince "B Bira" scored two 4ths and one 5th in the 1950s. I did not accept Vitaly Petrov as a valid answer.

5. Which Grand Prix has been won most frequently by a “home driver”?
The British Grand Prix has been won a record 21 times by British drivers.

6. Who was the last Italian to win the Italian Grand Prix?
It's been a very long time. Ludovico Scarfiotti won in 1966 for Ferrari.

7. Who was the last Italian to win the San Marino Grand Prix?
This is more recent, but still some time ago. Riccardo Patrese won in 1990 for Williams.

8. Which country has had the most constructor race entrants (one car counting as one entry) without a win?
Owing solely to Force India, India is responsible for 224 Grand Prix entries without a win. I gave half a point for Switzerland as the Sauber team were registered as German when they won their sole Grand Prix to date, and removing the BMW Sauber entries the country is responsible for 571 entries (Apollon and Bellasi being the other 2 Swiss teams).

9. Which national anthem played for the constructor Shadow when they achieved their one and only Grand Prix victory at the 1977 Austrian Grand Prix?
Shadow were a British team at the time, so the correct answer is the British national anthem (at other points in their history, the team was American). I was actually made aware of the more interesting fact that Happy Birthday was played as the national anthem for the winning driver, Alan Jones, as his victory was so unexpected that the orchestra hadn't bothered to learn Advance, Australia Fair!

10. What constructor is the only Formula One team to have been registered in Hong Kong?
Teddy Yip's famous Theodore team, which made a recent, winning reappearance at this year's Macau GP.

11. Under what 2 nationalities did Bertrand Gachot race in his career?
Belgian, and then French. He gained a Belgian racing licence, but held a French passport and had a French father.

12. What country was Bertrand Gachot born in?
Neither of the above! He was born in Luxembourg.

13. What flag was represented on Bertrand Gachot’s helmet?
He made the rather indecisive choice to go with the flag of the European Union.

14. Bertrand Gachot…only kidding. Based on current day borders, which country was Mario Andretti born in?
He was born in Montona, which is now part of Croatia.

15. If West Germany and East Germany still existed as separate countries, how many Grand Prix victories could be attributed to East German drivers?
Track question, the answer is 0! Most people worked this out though.

16. Which country has used the most number of circuits to hold Grand Prix?
Easily the USA, with 10 tracks (I know not all of them held a Grand Prix called the US Grand Prix, but read the question!). MrMasaTasa tried to list them, but missed one. In alphabetical order they are: Caesars Palace (Las Vegas), Circuit of the Americas (Austin), Detroit, Fair Park (Dallas) Indianapolis, Long Beach, Phoenix, Riverside, Sebring and Watkins Glen.

17. What is “rosso corsa”?
The Italian racing colour, used in particular by Ferrari amongst others.

18. Of the 64 World Championships so far, the title has been won a record 14 times by British drivers. Which nationality holds the record for the number of times as runner-up?
Also British. The runner-up of the championship has been a Briton on 21 separate occasions

19. Which is the most recent non-European constructor to have won a Grand Prix?
Honda, who gave Jenson Button his first Grand Prix victory at the Hungaroring in 2006.

20. Which track is commonly mistaken to have overlapped a national border (it only did so in an old configuration that Formula One never raced on)?
AVUS, which previously to the 2nd World War had such long straights that it went over what would become the border between West and East Berlin, i.e. West and East Germany.

21. Excluding Indy 500 winners, name the 5 American drivers to have won a Grand Prix.
In chronological order based on the time of their first wins: Phil Hill, Dan Gurney, Richie Ginther, Mario Andretti and Peter Revson

22. Name any one of the British constructors to have taken part in the inaugural 1950 Formula One World Championship.
Alta, ERA, and one that I didn't realise before writting this quiz, Cooper.

23. Why was the Swedish Grand Prix axed from the world championship?
I gave points to anyone mentioning the deaths of either or both of Ronnie Peterson and Gunnar Nilsson. They both passed away, in very different circumstances, in 1978.

24. Which driver was the first non-American to compete in the Indy 500 whilst it was a Formula One championship event?
Alberto Ascari was the first to actually race in the Indy 500, and was the answer that I was looking for.

25. Bahrain, Luxembourg, Monaco and San Marino are all very small countries that have held or given name to a Grand Prix event. From largest to smallest, order these countries in size.
Luxembourg, Bahrain, San Marino, Monaco. Vatican City is the only country in the world smaller than Monaco.

26. North American Racing Team ran Ferrari’s in Formula One as a privateer entrant. What was their column scheme?
Traditional American racing colours of blue and white.

27. Which Grand Prix has been red flagged the most times?
A point for anyone who said Monaco, British or Canadian, which have each been red-flagged 6 times.

28. In which city is the FIA based?
Paris of course!

29. Which country hosted Africa’s first Formula One championship event?
NOT South Africa, is was Morocco in 1958.

30. Which season marked the occasion of Formula One having finally visited an event in event continent (besides Antarctica)?
By 1985, had visited each continent at least once, with the first running of the Australian Grand Prix at Adelaide.


The points tally (with some half points awarded for ambiguous answers or where multiple answers were given where only one was asked for) is as follows:
tommykl - 26.5
pi314159 - 22.5
James1978 - 20
Dinizintheoven - 18
WaffleCat - 18
MrMasaTasa - 16.5
Shadaza - 14
mediocre - 12
andrew - 12
UgncreativeUsergname - 9.5

Congratulations Tommy!

Over three points! All right!!

I might have to have a go at these latest two quizzes now.

It'll be a miserable, Life-esque DNPQ performance for both...

EDIT: done it, and scoring in double figures over the two quizzes combined will be more due to fluke than knowledge. Pedro Chaves and Claudio Langes would be proud.