Grand Prix Rejects

Biscione wrote:So far provisionally I'm leaning towards Sauber.

And more than half of their points are still from the Australian Grand Prix... it says a lot, really.
Sauber need unreliability to have points. They still didn't get any here too. I'd go for Sauber too.

Shizuka wrote:

Biscione wrote:So far provisionally I'm leaning towards Sauber.

And more than half of their points are still from the Australian Grand Prix... it says a lot, really.
Sauber need unreliability to have points. They still didn't get any here too. I'd go for Sauber too.

14 points in the first race (unlikely to improved on due to the attrition anyway), then a race without points, then a race with 5 points, then two races without points, then a race with 2 points, then three races without points and counting!
At this rate, Sauber are scoring less and less points, less and less often and they need something special to get anywhere near even the occasional point for the rest of the season. And if McLaren Honda get going pace-wise, they could wind up 9th, only one position up from last year.

I fear I may just be repeating what has already been said here, but Sauber had a dismal race, as did Lotus. Williams Strategists were also deeply at fault. I am a big fan of Massa, but they should have given Bottas a chance at getting past him before his tyres went off. My nomination goes to, on the other hand, Kimi Raikkonen's strategist, for bringing him in too early in the rain when he was comfortably beating Vettel.

That is a big "If". ROTR is Williams, way to go guys.

LovelyFondmetal wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's strategist, for bringing him in too early in the rain when he was comfortably beating Vettel.

I believe that was Raikkonen's call, not his strategist's.

Salamander wrote:

LovelyFondmetal wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's strategist, for bringing him in too early in the rain when he was comfortably beating Vettel.

I believe that was Raikkonen's call, not his strategist's.

Indeed, and while in the dry Raikkonen was not having much difficulty keeping Vettel at arms length, as soon as the rain started to fall, he was skating all over the place and rapidly capitulating time to his team-mate. Kimi took the tyre because he was uncomfortable on the hard slicks in those conditions, while Vettel was more at ease with that combination of tyre and weather.

Biscione wrote:

Salamander wrote:

LovelyFondmetal wrote:Kimi Raikkonen's strategist, for bringing him in too early in the rain when he was comfortably beating Vettel.

I believe that was Raikkonen's call, not his strategist's.

Indeed, and while in the dry Raikkonen was not having much difficulty keeping Vettel at arms length, as soon as the rain started to fall, he was skating all over the place and rapidly capitulating time to his team-mate. Kimi took the tyre because he was uncomfortable on the hard slicks in those conditions, while Vettel was more at ease with that combination of tyre and weather.

There is the radio transcript over on F1Fanatic, and it makes clear that the team were asking Kimi to provide them with feedback on the weather conditions around the circuit, as well as feeding him back information about whether or not anybody else had pitted.

The decision to switch to inters in the first place was Kimi - he made it clear that, the moment he was passed, he wanted to switch to inters. However, when he realised a few laps later that he'd gone too early, he then effectively handed back the decision on whether or not to pit for a second set of inters back to the pit wall. http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2015/07/08/2 ... ranscript/

I stand by my nomination, if we assume Kimi Raikkonen's strategist to be Kimi Raikkonen in this instance Thanks for the new info

I think we're starting to fall behind again with the ROTRs. Biscione, you said Sauber was your provisional choice here. I don't think anything else emerged since that nomination so I assume that Sauber have won this one. That leaves Hungary and Belgium (and Italy, but no rush there yet) without a final ROTR decision, so who takes those?