Grand Prix Rejects

Samster wrote:

andrew wrote:National city bank

Motorcraft

Don't forget to decide on how many entries you want to run and your race numbers.

2 entries
98 part time (Races TBD)
99 full time

AAW Racing Team will use #23 (just like in their only start in real-life) in their lone entry, which for the time being will be part-time until we know more about chassis and engine costs.

Title sponsor:
Salora (let's hope they are patriotic)
Bang & Olufsen
Jägermeister

Associate sponsors:
Colt (I presume this is the Finnish cigarette brand and not the firearms manufacturer )
Personal
Homelite

Shadow will use real life numbers #16 and #17 if possible

Title sponsor bids:
Martini
UOP
Bang and Olufsen

Associate sponsor bids:
Texaco
Agip
Marlboro

Trojan-Tauranac Racing will run one full-time entry, with the number: 41.

Title sponsor bids:
Firestone
(we waive our opportunity to make additional offers to title sponsors)

Associate sponsor bids:
Homelite
Suzuki GB
Castrol

V8fan12 wrote:Shadow will use real life numbers #16 and #17 if possible

Title sponsor bids:
Martini
UOP
Bang and Olufsen

Associate sponsor bids:
Texaco
Agip
Marlboro

#16 is taken by BRM already. I have made a wiki page for the season now linked in my signiture, if you are unsure on what numbers are available, that page is the easiest place to check.

Ferrari adjust our entries to:

#12 (full-time)
#13 (full-time)
#46 (part-time)

Goldie Hexagon Racing: one full-time entry with the number #28 (as in real life)

Title sponsor bids:
Hexagon

Associate sponsor bids:
Texaco
Duckhams
Firestone

Williams will run 2 cars for this season using #20 & #21

Main Sponsors
Marlboro
Motul
Bang & Olfsen

Associate Sponsor
Fina
Matchbox
AP Lockhead

Ensign will have one full-time entry with number 22.

Main sponsor
Martini
Motul
National City Bank

Supplementary sponsor
Agip
Duckhams
Theodore Racing Hong Kong

Team Lotus : with two cars for the entire season

Main Sponsor
John Player Special

Supplementary Sponsors
Texaco
Agip
Duckhams

Car Numbers
#93
#94

Tyres
Goodyear

x2 Cars
Sponsors
1st
Jagermeister
2nd
Agip

Penske will run 1 full-time car (No. 66 - just like in real life) and 1 part-time car (No. 67).

Title Sponsors:
National City Bank
UOP
Motul

Associate Sponsors:
Shell
Viceroy
Motorcraft

Tyres: Goodyear

The No. 67 car is subject to run in Argentina, Brazil, Monaco, Great Britain, Canada and the USA.

Dexter249 wrote:x2 Cars
Sponsors
1st
Jagermeister
2nd
Agip

Don't forget your car numbers.

Samster wrote:

V8fan12 wrote:Shadow will use real life numbers #16 and #17 if possible

Title sponsor bids:
Martini
UOP
Bang and Olufsen

Associate sponsor bids:
Texaco
Agip
Marlboro

#16 is taken by BRM already. I have made a wiki page for the season now linked in my signiture, if you are unsure on what numbers are available, that page is the easiest place to check.

Ok we'll have #17 and #18 then

For Tyrrell

Main Sponsors

Elf
Martini
Motul

Associated Sponsors
Matchbox
FINA
Personal

Numbers #9 and #10 if available

McLaren
McLaren will run three full time entries
#54
#55
#56

Title Sponsor
1. Jagermeister
2. Marlboro
3. Martini

Associate Sponsors
1. Texaco
2. FINA
3. Agip

Samster wrote:

Dexter249 wrote:x2 Cars
Sponsors
1st
Jagermeister
2nd
Agip

Don't forget your car numbers.

18 and 19 as in real life.

Hill will take one full time entry with the #26.

We'll take the Embassy money, obviously, and then send our proposals to the following:

Shell
Castrol
Viceroy

We'll also take Firestone Reds tyres for '74.

Hesketh entries:

#24 (full time)
#25 (part time)

Main sponsors:
Martini
Jägermeister
(either booze or nothing)

Associate sponsors:
Duckhams
AP Lockhead
Theodore Racing Hong Kong

Just Amon Racing left to post sponsor bids and entry details, they have until tomorrow evening then I'm running the sponsor RNGs.

Sorry I'm late

Amon bids
Main - Firestone/Motul/Bang & Olfsen
Secondary - Matchbox/Shell/Bretscher
Entries - #79/#97 (full time)

Time to run the sponsor RNGs

Some of you have offers to accept from sponsors that couldn't find a deal at the end of this post.

Title Sponsors

John Player Special - 6,000,000
Lotus have accepted the automatic offer.

Elf - 5,000,000
Tyrrell

Surprisingly, Tyrrell were the only bid so Elf remain with them.

Marlboro - 4,000,000
1-60 McLaren
61-90 Ferrari
91-100 Williams

McLaren are favored as a three car entry.

RNG, 43 McLaren get the Marlboro title sponsor.

Martini - 4,000,000
1-60 Brabham
61-80 March
81-90 Shadow
91-98 Hesketh
99-100 Ensign

Brabham are the favoured team as a three car entry and because of their recent association.

RNG, 52 Martini stay with Brabham.

UOP - 3,500,000
1-50 BRM
51-75 March
76-95 Shadow
96-100 Penske

RNG, 13 UOP join BRM.

Jagermeister - 3,500,000
1-60 Surtees
61-99 Hesketh
100 AAW

Surtees are the only multi-car team left that made a bid, Hesketh also have a good look in thanks to their party lifestyle.

RNG, 73 Hesketh get their first ever sponsor.

Firestone - 3,000,000 (Obligated to use Firestone tires)
1-40 Amon
41-75 Maki
76-100 Trojan

Only the scrub teams made bids for the Firestone sponsorship.

RNG, 95 Trojan are the unexpected official partners of Firestone.

Motul - 3,000,000
1-50[/b Williams
[b]51-70 Amon
71-90 Penske
91-100 Ensign

RNG, 27 Motul align with Williams.

Bang & Olfsen - 3,000,000
1-90 March
91-98 Amon
99-100 AAW

March are the overwhelming favourite here.

RNG, 5 March

Embassy - 3,000,000
Hill

Hill Racing accept the offer to continue with Embassy.

Salora - 2,500,000
1-75 AAW
76-100 Maki

AAW are favoured as a Finn team.

RNG, 77 Seems patriotism isn't enough for AAW, Maki get the sponsorship.

National City Bank - 2,500,000
1-50 Penske
51-80 Ensign
81-100 Token

Last title sponsor available.

RNG, 75 Ensign signs with National City.

Hexagon - 2,000,000
Goldie Hexagon Racing

I forgot to include them as a sponsor. I would have had them as an auto-offer to Goldie Hexagon anyway so they get some money from them.

Associate Sponsors
Associates will offer double for title sponsorship if they choose a team that hasn't already found a title sponsor above.

Texaco - 600,000
1-40 McLaren
41-70 Brabham
71-90 Lotus
91-98 BRM
99 Maki
100 Goldie

RNG, 79 Lotus got both the best paying sponsors.

FINA x2 - 500,000
1-60 McLaren
61-90 BRM
91-99 Williams
100 Maki

FINA reject Tyrrell's bid because of their existing partnership with Elf.

RNG, 97 Williams get the first place with FINA, one more remains for the other three teams.

1-65 McLaren
66-95 BRM
96-100 Maki

RNG, 96 Surprise, FINA goes with the underdog again and choose Maki.

Agip - 400,000
1-50 Ferrari
51-70 McLaren
71-85 Brabham
86-95 Surtees
96-99 BRM
100 Ensign

Ferrari is favored as they are without a title sponsor and Agip sense the oppertunity of a bargin title sponsorship.

RNG, 42 Agip will double its offer to 800,000 to be Ferrari's title sponsor.

Matchbox - 350,000
1-90 BRM
91-100 Amon

BRM the overwhelming favourite.

RNG, 93 yet Matchbox choose Amon's team, they double the offer to 700,000 for title sponsorship.

Duckhams - 350,000
1-60 BRM
61-90 March
91-95 Hesketh
96-99 Ensign
100 Goldie

RNG, 79 Duckhams choose March.

AP Lockhead - 300,000
Hesketh

Hesketh are the only bid left. They get the sponsor.

Marlboro x2 - 300,000
BRM

BRM are the only bid left. Marlboro will offer their second deal to a team that hasn't found a deal yet at the end of the post.

Colt - 300,000
1-75 Brabham
76-100 AAW

Brabham are favourite but AAW Racing is tempting for a cheap title sponsor deal.

RNG, 2 Colt will sponsor Brabham.

Janex - 300,000
Umm.....


No bids, Janex will make an offer to a team at the end of this post.

Shell - 300,000
1-90 Penske
91-100 Hill

RNG, 66 Penske finally gets a sponsor, Shell double the offer to 600,000 for title sponsor.

Castrol - 300,000
1-80 Hill
81-100 Trojan

RNG, 93 Castrol join up with Trojan.

TAG-Huer - 300,000
Ferrari

Ferrari are already taken so TAG-Huer will make an offer to a team at the end of this post.

Suzuki GB - 250,000
Trojan

See TAG-Huer.

Theodore Racing Hong Kong - 250,000
Ensign

Ensign are the only bid remaining. They get the Theodore partnership.

Personal - 250,000
1-90 Tyrrell
91-100 AAW

Tyrrell are clear favourite but AAW have title sponsorship space.

RNG, 14 Personal join Tyrrell.

Viceroy - 250,000
Hill

Hill Racing are the only remaining bid.

Motorcraft - 200,000
Token

Token are the only remaining bid. Motorcraft double their offer to 400,000 for title sponsorship.

Homelite - 200,000
AAW

AAW Racing are the only remaining bid. Homelite double their offer to 400,000 for title sponsorship.

Bretscher - 200,000
Amon

Amon were the only bid and are taken. Bretscher make an offer at the bottom of the post.

Titan Properties - 200,000
No bids.

Remaining Sponsors - Double for teams without any title sponsors.

Marlboro - 300,000
Janex - 300,000
TAG-Huer - 300,000
Suzuki GB - 250,000
Titan Properties - 200,000
Bretscher - 200,000

Teams without any sponsors
Shadow
Surtees
Parnelli

Teams with just associaite sponsorship avaliable
McLaren
Goldie Hexagon Racing

Offers

Marlboro offer their remaining deal to Goldie Hexagon Racing.
TAG-Huer make their offer to McLaren.
Janex double their offer to 600,000 and want to sign with Shadow.
Suzuki GB double their offer to 500,000 and want to sign with Surtees.
Bretscher sign with Parnelli.

Chassis Development plus Engine and Tire Signing details will be revealed on the opening post in the next couple of days.

Again, sorry to be a pedant, but TAG-Heuer wasn't on the original sponsor list (Aislabie just added it to his form), and more importantly didn't exist until 1985, (Heuer existed, but was tiny, while TAG was founded in 1977) so I would suggest removing it from the bidding (sorry Mclaren).

Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes~~~! Firestone Trojan-Tauranac Racing with Castrol . Title and associate sponsors in the bag. £3.3 million!

This Could Be You wrote:Again, sorry to be a pedant, but TAG-Heuer wasn't on the original sponsor list (Aislabie just added it to his form), and more importantly didn't exist until 1985, (Heuer existed, but was tiny, while TAG was founded in 1977) so I would suggest removing it from the bidding (sorry Mclaren).

Ah, my bad - I simply couldn't find the sponsor list (I may or may not have been sober at the time (I'm a student so it's okay)) so I just found a picture of a Ferrari car on the Mighty Google.

All mistakes are entirely my own fault.

Aislabie wrote:

This Could Be You wrote:Again, sorry to be a pedant, but TAG-Heuer wasn't on the original sponsor list (Aislabie just added it to his form), and more importantly didn't exist until 1985, (Heuer existed, but was tiny, while TAG was founded in 1977) so I would suggest removing it from the bidding (sorry Mclaren).

Ah, my bad - I simply couldn't find the sponsor list (I may or may not have been sober at the time (I'm a student so it's okay)) so I just found a picture of a Ferrari car on the Mighty Google.

All mistakes are entirely my own fault.

The irony is, I put the sponsor list on the 2nd post of the thread to make it easier to find.

I dropped the ball a little too, I should have spotted your error and ignored the bid. McLaren instead will get a offer from the one remaining sponsor, Titan Properties.

Shell Penske sounds a bit weird though

Samster wrote:The irony is, I put the sponsor list on the 2nd post of the thread to make it easier to find.

I dropped the ball a little too, I should have spotted your error and ignored the bid. McLaren instead will get a offer from the one remaining sponsor, Titan Properties.

Yep, I discovered that afterwards when I went to look for my team finances. Not my proudest moment, but never mind.

Also, I may like to make some money by selling customer engines to other teams for the coming season, but only teams that finished below sixth in the previous year's WCC. Might that be okay?

Aislabie wrote:

Samster wrote:The irony is, I put the sponsor list on the 2nd post of the thread to make it easier to find.

I dropped the ball a little too, I should have spotted your error and ignored the bid. McLaren instead will get a offer from the one remaining sponsor, Titan Properties.

Yep, I discovered that afterwards when I went to look for my team finances. Not my proudest moment, but never mind.

Also, I may like to make some money by selling customer engines to other teams for the coming season, but only teams that finished below sixth in the previous year's WCC. Might that be okay?

That would be fine, I'll be releasing details on chassis and engines on the opening page later today.

Can I have the remaining sponsors?

Chassis and Engine development details have been posted on the second post, along with tire choices. Please read that post carefully before making your decisions.

Is Parnelli still available for take-over? If so, I'd like to give it a whirl

pasta_maldonado wrote:Is Parnelli still available for take-over? If so, I'd like to give it a whirl

Yeah go for it, I was babysitting them up until now.

Samster wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:Is Parnelli still available for take-over? If so, I'd like to give it a whirl

Yeah go for it, I was babysitting them up until now.

Has Parnelli got a sponsorship deal?

Is it possible to change our entries (number of cars) at this point? I'm just curious, as seeing the price of things has made me think twice about my approach...

pasta_maldonado wrote:

Samster wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:Is Parnelli still available for take-over? If so, I'd like to give it a whirl

Yeah go for it, I was babysitting them up until now.

Has Parnelli got a sponsorship deal?

Yes, just 400,000 from Bretscher for a cheap title sponsor deal.

BioBiro wrote:Is it possible to change our entries (number of cars) at this point? I'm just curious, as seeing the price of things has made me think twice about my approach...

You can, this part will be your final chance to make changes as far as full-time entries go. What is your change?

Samster wrote:You can, this part will be your final chance to make changes as far as full-time entries go. What is your change?

Er... I promise I'll let you know in this part (chassis/engine), I just need to do some wheeling-dealing with my aluminium briefcase and filofax.

By the way, can I ask - how are the Lola T370s dished-out? Do we negotiate with you (via PM?) for them?

Sorry for all the questions!

BioBiro wrote:

Samster wrote:You can, this part will be your final chance to make changes as far as full-time entries go. What is your change?

Er... I promise I'll let you know in this part (chassis/engine), I just need to do some wheeling-dealing with my aluminium briefcase and filofax.

By the way, can I ask - how are the Lola T370s dished-out? Do we negotiate with you (via PM?) for them?

Sorry for all the questions!

Just make an offer, depending on how many teams want them, you will most likely get a deal.

AAW Racing Team's plans
Chassis: Lola T370 (600,000)
Engine: Year-old Cosworth DFV (100,000)
Tires: Firestone (100,000)