Grand Prix Rejects

DRIVER BIDDING
We have our chassis, engine and tyres. All we need now are drivers!

As ever, your budgets and the drivers and their respective expected salaries are listed IN THIS SPREADSHEET.

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Drivers can be signed to 1-3 years long contracts. Drivers' salaries aren't fixed but instead have expected salaries that they are asking from their future employers. Teams can offer lower salaries than the drivers are expecting but will make the driver more likely to refuse the offer. Conversely a higher than expected salary will make the driver more likely to sign.

Pay drivers (listed with negative salaries) can only be signed to max. 1-year contracts. The negative salary next to their name implies the maximum amount they can pay for their seat per race.

The driver list is contains only the most notable drivers but you are able to offer a contract to drivers also not on the list.

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Please use the template below when bidding for drivers. Please remember to include offered contract length (1-3 years) and salary (will stay the same for the duration of the contract) for each driver. You are allowed to bid for max. 5 drivers per seat at this moment.



I will post the bids for Ensign, Fittipaldi, Osella and Theodore tomorrow.

Team: Tyrrell
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Keke Rosberg, 1200, 2Y
Bid 2: Riccardo Patrese, 1000, 2Y
Bid 3: Michele Alboreto, 800, 2Y
Bid 4: Marc Surer, 1300, 2Y

DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Derek Warwick, 500, 2Y
Bid 2: Emilio de Villota, MAX, 1Y
Bid 3: Siegfried Stohr, MAX, 1Y
Bid 4: Eje Elgh, whatever he can offer us, 1Y

Team: Pennzoil Lotus Racing Powered by Ford
Driver 1 (The (nearly)-Indy Bois)
Bid 1: Nigel Mansell (UK), 2550 per year, 2Y plus some driver management tippies for Peter Warr
Bid 2: Emerson Fittipaldi (BRA) , 4600 per year, 1Y including TV advertisements for his orange juice ventures
Bid 3: Rick Mears (USA), 3650 per year, 1Y
Bid 4: Bobby Rahal (USA), MAX, 1Y

Driver 2
Bid 1: Keke Rosberg (FIN) , 1550 per year , 2Y
Bid 2: Elio de Angelis (ITA), 2300 per year, 2Y with a Steinway to boot
Bid 3: Kazuyoshi Hoshino (JPN), 450 per year, 1Y
Bid 4: Stefan Johansson (SWE), 355 a year, 1Y

Edit: Replaced Reutemann with Rahal
Edit 2: Swapped Emmo with Nige

Team: McLaren
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Nelson Piquet 7500 p/yr 2 years
Bid 2: Gilles Villeneuve 5000 p/yr 2 years
Bid 3: Elio de Angelis 4000 p/yr 1 year
Bid 4: Keke Rosberg 1000 p/yr 1 year

DRIVER 2
Bid 1: John Watson 6000 p/yr 1 year
Bid 2: Alain Prost 6000 p/yr 2 years
Bid 3: Nigel Mansell 2500 p/yr 1 year
Bid 4: Derek Daly 1000 p/yr 1 year

Team: Renault
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Alain Prost 5500, 3 years
Bid 2: Didier Pironi, 4500, 2 years
Bid 3: Rene Arnoux, 3700, 2 years
Bid 4: Gilles Villeneuve, 3500, 3 years
DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Elio de Angelis, 2500, 3 years*
Bid 2: Patrick Tambay, 2200, 2 years*
Bid 3: Marc Surer, 1200, 1 year
Bid 4: Keke Rosberg, 1200, 1 year
Bid 5: Michele Alboreto, 700, 2 years

* I will drop those two offers if Prost signs as I've decided to cap my driver salaries to half of my current available budget.

Team: Ferrari
DRIVER 1
bid 1: gilles villeneuve 6500 3 yrs
Bid 2: didier pironi 4500 2 yrs

DRIVER 2:
bid 1: Riccardo patrese 1300 2yrs
bid 2: Elio de angelis 2500 3yrs
bid 3: Emerson Fittipaldi 4500 1yr

Hopefully its not too late to sign up, haven't done anything like this before but I really like management games so I'll take Ensign if that's ok, a single car team seems like a good idea to learn the ropes.

Team: Brabham
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Nelson Piquet, 7100, 3Y
Bid 2: Alain Prost, 4900, 3Y
Bid 3: Didier Pironi, 4400, 3Y
DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Elio De Angelis, 2200, 2Y
Bid 2: Keke Rosberg, 1000, 2Y
Bid 3: Michele Alboreto, 500, 2Y

If I may join the party a little late, please may I pick up the one...

The only...

Osella

I'd like to put in a late request for Alfa Romeo engines and Pirelli tyres, but if that's not possible then we'll settle quite happily for the gloriously cheap Cosser/Michelin combo we have currently.

EDIT - The dicks at FIFA have taken down their old flag images. Worst thing ever to happen at FIFA.

For drivers, I've got the following requests:

Driver 1
Piercarlo Ghinzani (he can name his price) - 3 years

Driver 2
Mike Thackwell (600) - 3 years
Andrea de Cesaris (PAY DRIVER) - 1 year
Beppe Gabbiani (PAY DRIVER) - 1 year

March Bids:

Driver 1:
1. Elio de Angelis (2200, 3yrs)
2. Eddie Cheever (1600, 2yrs)
3. Bruno Giacomelli (1800, 1yr)

Driver 2:
1. Mike Thackwell (PD, max amount, 1yr)
2. Teo Fabi (PD, max amount, 1yr)
3. Slim Borgudd (PD, max amount, 1yr)

As Ensign already had engines and tyres chosen for them, I'm more than happy to run them. Also below is the drivers that Ensign look to be interested in racing their car for the upcoming season.

Team: Ensign
Engine 1: Ford, 3200, 1 year
Tyres 1: Michelin, 600, 1 year
Tyres 2: Avon, 800, 1 year
Tyres 3: Pirelli, 600, 1 year

As for the drivers:
Team: Ensign
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Stefan Johansson - 300 - 1 year
Bid 2: Riccardo Patrese - 700 - 2 years
Bid 3: Danny Ongais - 100 - 1 year

Team:Ligier

DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Jacques Lafitte 5000, 3 Years.
Bid 2: René Arnoux, 4500, 3 years
Bid 3: Clay Regazzoni, 2725, 1 year
Bid 4: Jean Pierre Jabouille, 2000, 1 Year

DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Alain Prost, 5500, 3 years
Bid 2: Didier Pironi 5250, 3 Years
Bid 3: Patrick Tambay, 2250, 1 year
Bid 4: Jean Pierre Jarier, 1000, 1 year

ShaneEyoho wrote:Hopefully its not too late to sign up, haven't done anything like this before but I really like management games so I'll take Ensign if that's ok, a single car team seems like a good idea to learn the ropes.

Aislabie wrote:If I may join the party a little late, please may I pick up the one...

The only...

Osella

I'd like to put in a late request for Alfa Romeo engines and Pirelli tyres, but if that's not possible then we'll settle quite happily for the gloriously cheap Cosser/Michelin combo we have currently.

Wonderful! Welcome aboard!

Since both Alfa Romeo and Pirelli are able to supply another team, I'll allow it. Can't pass on the chance of forming an Italian super-team

I'll continue babysitting Fittipaldi and Theodore for the time being.

Team: Fittipaldi
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Keke Rosberg - 1000 - 1y
Bid 2: Chico Serra - pay 40/race - 1y
Bid 3: Eliseo Salazar - pay 60/race - 1y
DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Chico Serra - pay 40/race - 1y
Bid 2: Eliseo Salazar - pay 60/race - 1y
Bid 3: Miguel Angel Guerra - pay 70/race - 1y


Team: Theodore
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Patrick Tambay - 2100 - 1y
Bid 2: Marc Surer - 1100 - 1y
Bid 3: Derek Daly - 600 - 1y

Just a general question as this alternate universe goes from season to season will there be things like calendar changes? (races being added/removed from the calendar.)

ShaneEyoho wrote:Just a general question as this alternate universe goes from season to season will there be things like calendar changes? (races being added/removed from the calendar.)

It will most probably follow the RL calendars through the years. I'm too lazy to come up with any huge changes so it'll be 16 races a season for now

Cool, just wanted to know.

Team: Toleman
Driver 1:
Bid 1: Derek Warwick - 600 - 2y
Bid 2: Marc Surer - 1200 - 2y
Bid 3: Clay Regazzoni - 2000 - 2y
Bid 4: Patrick Tambay - 2000 - 2y

Driver 2:
Bid 1: Michele Alboreto - 600 - 2y
Bid 2: Manfred Winkelhock - 400 - 2y
Bid 3: Desire Wilson - Max - 1y
Bid 4: Tiff Needell - Max - 1y

WIlliams, ATS, Alfa Romeo and Arrows are missing their driver bids. I'll give you until Friday before I go forward with the RNG for the bids I've received by then.

Very sorry Carlo but I'm going to have to drop out of this one :-/

I will still watch the series with interest though!

F1 Livery Histories wrote:Very sorry Carlo but I'm going to have to drop out of this one :-/

I will still watch the series with interest though!

Sad to hear but you are welcome back at any point!

I will babysit Williams in case no one claims them before the deadline tomorrow.


Team: Williams
DRIVER 1
Bid 1: Alan Jones - 6600 - 1y
Bid 2: Carlos Reutemann - 4600 - 1y
Bid 3: Mario Andretti - 5200 - 1y
Bid 4: Jacques Laffite - 4200 - 1y
Bid 5: Didier Pironi - 4400 - 1y
DRIVER 2
Bid 1: Carlos Reutemann - 4600 - 1y
Bid 2: Jacques Laffite - 4200 - 1y
Bid 3: Didier Pironi - 4400 - 1y
Bid 4: Keke Rosberg - 1000 - 1y
Bid 5: Derek Daly - 600 - 1y

Team: Alfa Romeo

Driver 1:
Elio de Angelis - 2800, 2 years
Clay Regazzoni - 2500, 1 year
Nigel Mansell - 2200, 1 year
Eddie Cheever - 1500, 1 year

Driver 2:
Andrea de Cesaris - PD, 1 year
Riccardo Patrese - 700, 1 year
Michele Alboreto - 500, 1 year
Teo Fabi - PD, 1 year

DRIVERS RNG


ALAN JONES & CARLOS REUTEMANN
Williams is the only team interested in Jones and Reutemann's services that secured them both World Championships last year. The duo are happy to sign.

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NELSON PIQUET

1-50 Brabham (7100, 3 years)
51-100 McLaren (7500, 2 years)

80!

Piquet had two offers on the table and decides to leave Brabham that were unable to match McLaren's offer.

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JOHN WATSON

Watson's only offer is from McLaren and the Northern Irishman signs for a third term.

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GILLES VILLENEUVE

1-95 Ferrari (6500, 3 years)
96-100 Renault (3500, 3 years)

11!

Villeneuve couldn't resist Ferrari's huge offer and continues in Maranello for the next three seasons.

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ALAIN PROST

1-55 Renault (5500, 3 years)
56-90 Ligier (5500, 3 years)
91-100 Brabham (4900, 3 years)

94!

Prost snubs the French teams and instead decides to continue his career in England with Brabham!

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DIDIER PIRONI

1-50 Ligier (5250, 3 years)
51-100 Renault (4500, 2 years)

8!

Pironi is unconvinced by Renault and is very happy to continue his career with Ligier.

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JACQUES LAFFITE

Laffite completes Ligier's line-up since after Williams signed Jones and Reutemann.

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RENÉ ARNOUX

Arnoux wasn't Renault's first choice but right now Renault is Arnoux's only choice. He signs.

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DEREK WARWICK

1-90 Tyrrell (500, 2 years)
91-100 Toleman (600, 2 years)

55!

1980 European F2 runner-up Derek Warwick will make his F1 début with Tyrrell.

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RICCARDO PATRESE

1-94 Ferrari (1300, 2 years)
95-97 Tyrrell (1000, 2 years)
98-99 Alfa Romeo (700, 1 year)
100 Ensign (700, 2 years)

16!

Riccardo Patrese becomes Ferrari's first Italian driver since Arturo Merzario for the next two seasons.

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ELIO DE ANGELIS

1-33 Renault (2500, 3 years)
34-57 Alfa Romeo (2800, 2 years)
58-80 Lotus (2300, 2 years)
81-99 Brabham (2200, 2 years)
100 March (2200, 3 years)

95!

Like so many others, de Angelis is not convinced by Renault. He signs with Brabham and partners Alain Prost for the next two years.

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PATRICK TAMBAY

1-95 Renault (2200, 2 years)
96-99 Theodore (2100, 1 year)
100 Toleman (2000, 2 years)

16!

Tambay completes Renault's all-French driver line-up as expected.

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KEKE ROSBERG

1-96 Lotus (1550, 2 years)
97-99 Tyrrell (1200, 2 years)
100 Fittipaldi (1000, 1 year)

3!

With no doubt in his mind, Rosberg lands a dream seat at Lotus.

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CLAY REGAZZONI

1-99 Alfa Romeo (2500, 1 year)
100 Toleman (2000, 2 years)

Veteran Regazzoni will continue his career for at least one more year as Alfa Romeo's leading driver.

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NIGEL MANSELL

Rookie Mansell has one offer on the table from Lotus and is happy to sign with them.

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MIKE THACKWELL

1-96 Osella (600, 3 years)
97-100 March (pay 20/race, 1 year)

45!

Thackwell got an excellent offer from Osella and signs in a heartbeat.

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ANDREA DE CESARIS

After Osella signed with Thackwell, de Cesaris' only offer is from Alfa Romeo. He will bring his Marlboro sponsorship to the Italian marque.

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MICHELE ALBORETO

1-97 Tyrrell (800, 2 years)
98-100 Toleman (600, 2 years)

42!

Reigning European F3 champion Alboreto will lead an all-rookie line-up at Tyrrell with Derek Warwick in the other car.

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MARC SURER

1-70 Toleman (1200, 2 years)
71-100 Theodore (1100, 1 year)

13!

1979 European F2 champion Surer continues his journey in the lower ranked teams and joins newcomers Toleman for two years.

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STEFAN JOHANSSON
...signs with Ensign.

EDDIE CHEEVER & TEO FABI
...sign with March.

CHICO SERRA & ELISEO SALAZAR
...sign with Fittipaldi.

MANFRED WINKELHOCK
...signs with Toleman.

PIERCARLO GHINZANI
...signs with Osella.

DEREK DALY
...signs with Theodore.


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Your budgets and contracts have been updated IN THIS SPREADSHEET.

WE ARE STILL MISSING ARROWS AND ATS DRIVER BIDS
You have until the first race to sign drivers before I make bids on behalf of you.

Info about development and the upcoming season will follow shortly.

I'm really happy with Osella's driver line-up; hopefully they can really help build the team up over the next few seasons as we try hard not to bankrupt ourselves (Remaining budget: 200)

One thing I did notice in the spreadsheet was that Ghinzani was listed as only being contracted to us for one year, but we offered him a three-year contract. Was this intentional, or can we plan around his continued payments presence until at least the end of 1983?

My driver line-up is excelllent (i expect good things from Pironi) and our contracts are tight for a few years. But the development race is gonna be hard. I hope the drivers can compensate with talent.

Cheever and Fabi's certainly a serviceable lineup for 1981 tbh, and at least they're young and more importantly, cheap

the commandatore is delighted to have gilles stay with us long term. ferrari truly believes that gilles is our franchise player, and we will do everything we can to build a car that will allow him to win the world title.

we are also happy that Riccardo patrese joined us. he has proven himself as a quick, reliable driver at arrows and we hope that his team-first mentality will help gilles and ferrari win titles in the coming seasons. we also hope that his dedication to his physical fitness will spill out to the rest of the team, as both gilles and our crew need to be in top form if we want to win.

Great to welcome Piquet back to the McLaren fold, an exciting talent to team alongside our experienced driver John Watson. Tough decision to only award Watto a one year deal but I wanted to keep our options open for next season to test the market. Decent amount of players tied to multi-year deals though so we’ll see what happens there.

Arnoux has shown great speed in his career so far and we think he's nearing his peak as a driver. Tambay was out of F1 last year and although it may take few races to get grips with it again, we have a full commitment on his success.

The team believes in good development throughout the season as well as towards 1982.

Aislabie wrote:I'm really happy with Osella's driver line-up; hopefully they can really help build the team up over the next few seasons as we try hard not to bankrupt ourselves (Remaining budget: 200)

One thing I did notice in the spreadsheet was that Ghinzani was listed as only being contracted to us for one year, but we offered him a three-year contract. Was this intentional, or can we plan around his continued payments presence until at least the end of 1983?

Thanks for noticing. Since you were the only one bidding for Ghinzani I give you two options:

1) Ghinzani signs one year contract and brings 60/race as a pay-driver.
2) Ghinzani signs for three years with a salary of 200/year.

CHASSIS DEVELOPMENT

Like mentioned in the first post, each season consists of three R&D periods during the season on which the teams can develop their chassis. A single period is 4-5 races long after which potential upgrades are installed to the chassis.

Before each R&D period the teams have to commit to developing their chassis by choosing their level of investment. Higher levels increase the chance for greater performance gain.
The levels and their prices are:
Low - 250 cr
Moderate - 500 cr
High - 750 cr
All-in - 1000 cr


There is no specific areas you can develop individually. Rather, all development will be general and you only have to announce the level of R&D you are planning to do.

At the end of each R&D period the potential upgrades will be installed to your cars. I will announce on a scale of 0-5 how successful your upgrades were at the end of the period.

You are free to post a R&D schedule for the whole season already if you so wish.

TIP! When budgeting, it's a good idea to leave some money for the New Chassis R&D Period that happens towards the end of the season.


HOW TO R&D
Example:

Moderate R&D (500 cr) for KOIRANEN BROS.



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PLEASE POST YOUR PLANS FOR 1st R&D PERIOD NOW
These upgrades will be installed to your cars for round 5 of the championship (San Marino).

The deadline for investments is on 17th of February when I will run the first race(s).

Ferrari invests 1000 dollars on R&D.

Ensign invest 600 dollars towards R&D.

Ligier wil do 600 on R&D

McLaren will invest 600 on R&D

Pennzoil Lotus Racing shall invest 700 cr on R&D.

Renault will invest 1000 on R&D.

A heads-up for everyone involved; I plan to continue running this thing in the near future. I will however start everything over from scratch since we never got going here before the forum borked and there are some changes I've refined during this time. Everyone who signed up will however have an option to reclaim their teams in the reincarnation.

I reclaim ferrari