Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 23 Dec 2011, 00:07

Klon wrote:I need your opinion: would you count this as wallriding? To be honest, I'd say it is. And if it is, I must consider disregarding Shizuka's time. While I admittedly never said that wallriding is forbidden, it is still a d*ck move. I let you be the judge on this one - so, as of now, these results are provisional and not official until further review.

There are two or three corners where it looks like he gained an advantage from wallriding (Turns 4, 7, 9). I say DSQ!

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 23 Dec 2011, 00:32

Klon wrote:I need your opinion: would you count this as wallriding? To be honest, I'd say it is. And if it is, I must consider disregarding Shizuka's time. While I admittedly never said that wallriding is forbidden, it is still a d*ck move. I let you be the judge on this one - so, as of now, these results are provisional and not official until further review.

Well I WOULD be able to make a judgement if the bastards at Universal Music didn't have Megavideo and Megaupload taken down thanks to SOPA.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 23 Dec 2011, 02:01

Klon wrote:I need your opinion: would you count this as wallriding? To be honest, I'd say it is. And if it is, I must consider disregarding Shizuka's time. While I admittedly never said that wallriding is forbidden, it is still a d*ck move. I let you be the judge on this one - so, as of now, these results are provisional and not official until further review.

If he didn't wall ride, he would have lost a bunch of time (i estimate at least four seconds, probably a lot more). Those corners are among the slowest on the track and he was able to take them at a speed which is a gear higher then they normally would have been taken at.

Time Penalty, but no DSQ.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Dec 2011, 07:07

I already mentioned it in my mail to give me a time penalty. 10 seconds? Yes, I'm also saying it's an advantage, my best time without that was at around... 1:28.9 or something. 10 seconds? 15?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 23 Dec 2011, 11:28

Shizuka wrote:I already mentioned it in my mail to give me a time penalty. 10 seconds? Yes, I'm also saying it's an advantage, my best time without that was at around... 1:28.9 or something. 10 seconds? 15?

If I was Klon I'd disqualify you there and then. In fact, you seem like flouting good sportsmanship in your message.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 23 Dec 2011, 11:52

Sorry, wasn't really in a good mood. I'm willing to take even a disqualification from not only the (now) previous event, but the Autumn Ring Mini one too.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 23 Dec 2011, 17:07

Life has been in a state of turmoil over the past few weeks, so I missed round 2-8. I think I'll be in 2-9 though... and it looks like I'm still in good shape for the GT4 championship

On a side note, the deadline is January 4, 2012, right?

Finally... Merry Christmas!

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 24 Dec 2011, 02:35

Here is my video for 2-7. Sorry for the bad quality, I played a lot with the encoding settings, but there wasn't much I could do. Next time I'll try not to forget to adjust the capture settings before doing it.

If time allows, I'll play 2-8 too just to see how I compare to the rest of you guys, but of course I won't "submit" as I have already missed the deadline.

EDIT: I have picked the Merc SLK for 2-9, but I have a question. I bought it used, and applied all tuning listed in "Allowed tuning" on it. May I perform oil change? Oil change was once listed as "tuning", hence the question. I already have a laptime down without that, but I'd like to know for sure before I submit.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Jan 2012, 22:42

Priceless wrote:EDIT: I have picked the Merc SLK for 2-9, but I have a question. I bought it used, and applied all tuning listed in "Allowed tuning" on it. May I perform oil change? Oil change was once listed as "tuning", hence the question. I already have a laptime down without that, but I'd like to know for sure before I submit.

Nope. No oil changes for you, unless I say so.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 04 Jan 2012, 23:21

I have now decided and I am going to pull a FIA 2008 and remove reasonable punishments in favour of a close championship. For wallriding, Shizuka gets a five-point penalty in the championship.

Results - "Springtime For Heidfeld"
1.: Priceless - GT4 - Mercedes SLK 230 Kompressor '98 - 39.666 :twisted:

2.: Klon - GT4 - BMW 2002 Turbo '73 - 41.158
3.: Pointrox - GT4 - BMW 2002 Turbo '73 - 41.521
4.: RealRacingRoots - GT5 - Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98 - 41.786
5.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - BMW 2002 Turbo - 41.857
6.: JeremyMcClean - GT4 - Mercedes-Benz SLK 230 Kompressor '98 - 43.138
Bonus Point: MinardiFan95 to create a close championship battle

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: Shizuka - 51 Points*
2.: Priceless - 51 Points
3.: MinardiFan95 - 51 Points
4.: Jeremy McClean - 35 Points
5.: The Masked Lapwing - 34 Points
6.: Klon - 34 Points
7.: Pointrox - 18 Points
8.: kostas22 - 15 Points
9.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
10.: RealRacingRoots - 11 Points
11.: BlindCaveSalamander - 10 Points
12.: AdrianSutil - 3 Points
13.: FMecha - 2 Points
* -5 points for wallriding in Scenario 2-8

Sakon Yamamoto Gran Turismo 2 Trophy
1.: Shizuka - 55 Points
2.: kostas22 - 16 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
4.: FMecha - 9 Points
* -5 points for wallriding in Scenario 2-8
---> Congratulations to Shizuka for winning the Sakon Yamamoto Gran Turismo 2 Trophy

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: Priceless - 71 Points
2.: The Masked Lapwing - 50 Points
3.: Jeremy McClean - 45 Points
4.: BlindCaveSalamander - 18 Points
5.: Pointrox - 20 Points
6.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
7.: Klon - 15 Points
8.: MinardiFan95 - 5 Points
9.: AdrianSutil - 4 Points
---> Congratulations to Priceless for winning the Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 52 Points
---> Congratulations to Klon for winning the Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy

Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: MinardiFan95 - 70 Points
2.: RealRacingRoots - 18 Points
---> Congratulations to Shizuka for winning the Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy

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Scenario 2-10: "24 Days Of Le Mans"

Track (GT2): Red Rock Valley Speedway
Track (GT4): Circuit de la Sarthe (with chicanes)
Track (GTP): Circuit de la Sarthe (with chicanes)
Track (GT5): Circuit de la Sarthe (with chicanes)

Car To Use (GT2): Any car that has ever participated in the 24 Hours Of Le Mans
Car To Use (GT4): Any car that has ever participated in the 24 Hours Of Le Mans
Car To Use (GTP): Any car that has ever participated in the 24 Hours Of Le Mans
Car To Use (GT5): Any car that has ever participated in the 24 Hours Of Le Mans

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires/Oil Change
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires/Oil Change

Other conditions: You will do enter three seperate times, each one done with a different car (see example), the average time of these three laps is your end result. Each lap in GT2 will have 2'15.000 added to its respective time

Deadline: 28th January 2011, 00:00 CET

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Once you think your time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail or post a video with your lap on a video portal (please take one that won't delete your video until a few months later) with the following data:

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:

Example For Proper Data In 2-10 wrote:User Name: HWNSNBM
Car Used: Ravel 12CV Sport
Tuning Applied: Racing Tires
Lap Time: 2'30.000
Game Used: GT4

User Name: HWNSNBM
Car Used: Monopole X84 Tank
Tuning Applied: Racing Tires/Oil Change
Lap Time: 2'20.000

User Name: HWNSNBM
Car Used: Lola B2K/10
Tuning Applied: Racing Tires
Lap Time: 2'40.000

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---> In this case, HWNSNBM would have an average time of 2'30.000

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Jan 2012, 09:25

-10 points please, not -5.

Also, Le Mans cars... I guess in GT2 that makes Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Lotus Elise GT1 and... I think Saleen SR Widebody?
Edit: one more question: since these cars will all have gear modifications, can that be modified or not?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 05 Jan 2012, 10:10

Shizuka wrote:-10 points please, not -5.

Also, Le Mans cars... I guess in GT2 that makes Toyota GT-One, Nissan R390 GT1, Lotus Elise GT1 and... I think Saleen SR Widebody?
Edit: one more question: since these cars will all have gear modifications, can that be modified or not?

You mean setting the gear ratios? That is fair game, car set-up is completely up to you.

And I am sticking to the -5, I like it - not a reasonable punishment, but it makes for the perfect Triple Threat. As I have said: "FIA 2008"

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Jan 2012, 10:14

Oh okay, I set the ratio of the GT-One ('98 model, I like its paintjob a lot better than the '99 one) so it accelerates a bit faster and doesn't have any more top speed than needed...
Also, three cars: It might sound stupid, but what about using the same car, but two versions? For example the R390 GT1 '97 and '98 - should this be avoided? Because I'm thinking about using the Viper GTS-R as the third car.

GT2 suffers a bit from having X cars with more than one paintjobs and no differences, mainly the GT500 cars come to my mind-

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 05 Jan 2012, 10:17

Shizuka wrote:It might sound stupid, but what about using the same car, but two versions? For example the R390 GT1 '97 and '98 - should this be avoided?

That are two different cars in my book, you can use both.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Jan 2012, 10:40

Well, I don't want to abuse the GT-One (it's overall a better car), so I'll stick to my GT-One - R390 GT1 - Viper GTS-R trio.

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 05 Jan 2012, 10:48

Klon wrote:
Shizuka wrote:It might sound stupid, but what about using the same car, but two versions? For example the R390 GT1 '97 and '98 - should this be avoided?

That are two different cars in my book, you can use both.

I think I own both of the Pescarolos on GT4. :twisted:

Now I just have to pull myself away from F1 2011 and GT5...

Aerond · Post by **Aerond** » 05 Jan 2012, 11:27

I may plug again my PS2 to do this. I own all of the best cars in GT4 :twisted:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 05 Jan 2012, 16:49

Questions:
1. How am I ahead of TMLW in the championship but not the GT4 cup?
2. Is corner cutting the chicanes allowed? Probably not...
3. How many days does one have to complete to unlock the Le Mans circuit?
4. Is there a list of Le Mans cars in GT4?

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 05 Jan 2012, 20:53

Question 2 - I think not. If you cut it with two wheels, it's plausible, but not all four. I recorded my GT-One lap, that follows this rule. (I did a 1 tenth better lap, but I felt like I cut one corner a bit more, so I didn't consider that time the best.)

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 05 Jan 2012, 23:46

Here is my video for 2-9.

And for this scenario I'll take the Mazda 787B, 1991 Le Mans winner, as a farewell - Mazda has announced that 2012 will be the last model year for the RX-8, with production to be stopped this year, meaning there will be no more rotary engines on Mazda's lineup for the foreseeable future.

Now I just have to get the car in my game...

Forgot to mention, the Mazda 787B was driven by a F1 Reject, which makes it even more special.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 27 Jan 2012, 01:19

Just submitted my times.

As my three cars, I chose these:

Mazda 787B - 1991 Le Mans winner, driven by F1 Reject Volker Weidler, also the only Japanese car to ever win Le Mans, AND the only car with a non-piston engine (4-rotor Wankel) to ever win Le Mans.

Toyota GT-One (TS020) - Raced at Le Mans in 1999. Driven by F1 Reject Vincenzo Sospiri. And a nice, fast car.

Dodge/Chrysler Viper GTS-R - The version in the game was raced at Le Mans by Team Oreca in 2000. I kind of like the Viper, and also it was the car that I could get in order to have three reasonably good Le Mans cars in time to meet the deadline.

Someone had asked, but I didn't think of it at the time, but when choosing the cars I used this list of cars that ran the 24 Hours of Le Mans:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:2 ... _race_cars

Videos coming soon.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 27 Jan 2012, 07:11

Aside from the 787B, you used the same cars I did

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 28 Jan 2012, 21:37

As today's the deadline, here are the videos for this scenario:

Part 1: Mazda 787B
Part 2: Toyota GT-One
Part 3: Dodge Viper GTS-R

The GT-One video has a few hiccups at the start. I didn't suffer from those while playing, but that happened because some background task fired while the machine had to deal with PCSX2 and Fraps together, which is a very heavy processing and I/O load. Sorry about that...

EDIT: Just found out that PCSX2 has a built-in video recording feature. I'll try that out, and in future scenarios I may use it instead of Fraps.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 29 Jan 2012, 01:55

Uploaded this last night, managed to find a way to do picture-in-picture-in-picture in Pinnacle Studio. Had to render a video with a picture-in-picture, then add the third video in a different area to the first video then render it. It's rather dumb, but it works.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mPII1Aw9hc

I used all three Pescarolos in the game. I honestly like those cars, they were a lot of fun to drive. And doing fast laps in the middle of the Long Night was fun. Probably could have had a cleaner Mulsanne Straight in the Peugeot.

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 29 Jan 2012, 07:33

Well, since everyone is posting their videos, here's my GT-One '98 - R390 GT1 '97 - Viper GTS-R video. I ignored my actual best laptime with the GT-One, I felt like I was too aggressive with the first chicane, so I ignored that.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 21 Feb 2012, 18:34

One day we will see the day when I post the results in a reasonable time. :twisted:

Results - "24 Days Of Le Mans"
1.: RealRacingRoots - GT5 - Pescarolo C60 Hybride Judd/Pescarolo Courage Judd GV5/Pescarolo Courage Puegeot - 3:18.263
2.: Shizuka - GT2 - Toyota GT-One '98/Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '97/Dodge Viper GTS-R - 3:21.778
3.: Priceless - GT4 - Mazda 787B Race Car '91/Toyota GT-One '99/Dodge Viper GTS-R Team Oreca '00 - 3:22.204
4.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - Audi R8 (PlayStation Team Oreca) '05/Minolta Toyota 88-CV Race Car '89/Jaguar XJR-9 LM Race Car '88 - 3:23.778
Bonus Point: RealRacingRoots for stealing the show against the title contenders.

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: Shizuka - 59 Points*
2.: Priceless - 57 Points
3.: MinardiFan95 - 56 Points
4.: Jeremy McClean - 35 Points
5.: The Masked Lapwing - 34 Points
6.: Klon - 34 Points
7.: RealRacingRoots - 22 Points
8.: Pointrox - 18 Points
9.: kostas22 - 15 Points
10.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
11.: BlindCaveSalamander - 10 Points
12.: AdrianSutil - 3 Points
13.: FMecha - 2 Points
* -5 points for wallriding in Scenario 2-8
---> Congratulations to Shizuka for winning the 2nd Gran Turismo World Championship

Sakon Yamamoto Gran Turismo 2 Trophy
1.: Shizuka - 65 Points
2.: kostas22 - 16 Points
3.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
4.: FMecha - 9 Points
* -5 points for wallriding in Scenario 2-8
---> Congratulations to Shizuka for winning the Sakon Yamamoto Gran Turismo 2 Trophy

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: Priceless - 81 Points
2.: The Masked Lapwing - 50 Points
3.: Jeremy McClean - 45 Points
4.: BlindCaveSalamander - 18 Points
5.: Pointrox - 20 Points
6.: Nuppiz - 14 Points
7.: Klon - 15 Points
8.: MinardiFan95 - 5 Points
9.: AdrianSutil - 4 Points
---> Congratulations to Priceless for winning the Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 52 Points
---> Congratulations to Klon for winning the Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy

Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: MinardiFan95 - 78 Points
2.: RealRacingRoots - 29 Points
---> Congratulations to MinardiFan95 for winning the Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy

The game will now take a month-and-a-half long break before we start with Season 3.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 21 Feb 2012, 18:55

Now I've taken delivery of my new Dell XPS, I think I will begin racing GT2 again when Season 3 begins

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Feb 2012, 21:54

Pleased with my results today. I got GTPSP over the holidays and it's actually very good, just that the modes are simple and the car selection varies on what day it is. So for example if you want Ferrari, you've got to play mundanely until Ferrari decides to show up for the car selections. Weird. Not sure whether or not to use GT4 or GTPSP.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 21 Feb 2012, 23:32

JeremyMcClean wrote:Pleased with my results today. I got GTPSP over the holidays and it's actually very good, just that the modes are simple and the car selection varies on what day it is. So for example if you want Ferrari, you've got to play mundanely until Ferrari decides to show up for the car selections. Weird. Not sure whether or not to use GT4 or GTPSP.

Both if you have the time? And will GT be available on PS Vita?

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 21 Feb 2012, 23:55

dr-baker wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Pleased with my results today. I got GTPSP over the holidays and it's actually very good, just that the modes are simple and the car selection varies on what day it is. So for example if you want Ferrari, you've got to play mundanely until Ferrari decides to show up for the car selections. Weird. Not sure whether or not to use GT4 or GTPSP.

Both if you have the time? And will GT be available on PS Vita?

No idea. From what I've heard, only downloadable games (i.e. from a PSP Go) will be compatable. Given how I don't own a PS Vita, I don't know how that works. This is from wikipedia:
"The device will also be backwards compatible with PlayStation Portable downloadable titles, PlayStation minis, PlayStation Suite games, PSOne Classics, videos, and comics from the PlayStation Store."

No idea what a PlayStation Mini is...

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 22 Feb 2012, 01:09

JeremyMcClean wrote:No idea. From what I've heard, only downloadable games (i.e. from a PSP Go) will be compatable. Given how I don't own a PS Vita, I don't know how that works. This is from wikipedia:
"The device will also be backwards compatible with PlayStation Portable downloadable titles, PlayStation minis, PlayStation Suite games, PSOne Classics, videos, and comics from the PlayStation Store."

No idea what a PlayStation Mini is...

A Playstation Mini are little games that can be purchased for low money on the PSN. What they of course do not mention at Wikipedia is the fact that these twats at Sony take money for the conversion of PSP titles. All of my hate! :evil:

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 22 Feb 2012, 06:39

I'm amazed that in the end, less than two seconds decided who won the championship and who finished third. :shock:

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 22 Feb 2012, 07:08

Wow, that was a nice selection from RRR! I thought I'll finish fifth or sixth, given the fact that I decided not to choose the same model twice.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 22 Feb 2012, 10:50

I'll be getting GT5 back in a few weeks so I'll be making a rejectful return to the series

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 22 Feb 2012, 16:27

I'll try to use the time to advance my game enough to get a wider selection of cars. I'm happy, and I think I could say surprised, with the result... didn't think I'd be placed this high. But more importantly, this made GT4 fun to me in a way I haven't experienced before, so thanks guys, and I'll be readying for Season 3. Hope I pass the crash test! :mrgreen:

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 27 Apr 2012, 01:39

In preparation for Season 3, I have upgraded my CFD facilities in a Nick Wirth-like fashion, and for the new season I'll now be able to post the lap videos in high definition!

Here's a sample... lap time's been pretty rejectful though, much like a certain all-CFD-designed car :lol:

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 27 Apr 2012, 01:57

It's probably not the best idea, but I've been playing GT1,recording my races and uploading them to youtube. I've got bored with it, since I got school work to catch up on and The last races I got left are all from the second page of the special events. (5 Laps of SSR11, puppy doesn't want to record that :cry:

)

Anyways, this is what I got so far. I tried to make the races look close, and I found gems of cars when I was doing the project. I should stop playing the Automation engine demo, TF2, and Civ 5, and get back into GT5 and F1 2011.

Procrastination is Domination.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 03 May 2012, 20:26

TIME TO PLAY THE GAME~!

Scenario 3-1: "Golden Supra Warriors"

Track (GT2): Laguna Seca
Track (GT4): Laguna Seca
Track (GTP): Laguna Seca
Track (GT5): Laguna Seca

Car To Use (GT2): Any car with "Supra" in its name
Car To Use (GT4): Any car with "Supra" in its name
Car To Use (GTP): Any car with "Supra" in its name
Car To Use (GT5): Any car with "Supra" in its name

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Sport Tires/Turbo/NA Tuning/Weight Reduction Stage 2
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Sport Tires/Turbo/NA Tuning/Weight Reduction Stage 2
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Sport Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Sport Tires/Turbo/NA Tuning/Weight Reduction Stage 2

Other conditions: None

Deadline: 13th May 2012, 07:00 CET

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Once you think your time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail or post a video with your lap on a video portal (please take one that won't delete your video until a few months later) with the following data:

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 06 May 2012, 13:32

Since I have been asked, I will clarify something about legal tuning measures:

Normally, tuning is added: if your car comes with something that is not on that list, it's still legal. The only exception to this are tires, you need to use the tires given in the scenario no matter what the car you use comes with.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 06 May 2012, 21:20

Just how much turbo is allowed? (I believe there are three stages or something like that.)