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Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 22:32
by the Masked Lapwing
Warren Hughes wrote:
Michael Cameron wrote:I can't believe that Swerts hasn't been sanctioned for his ridiculous and dangerous move in Race 1. The fact is, we could have had a serious accident, and the F3RWRS commission seem happy to turn a blind eye. He should have been penalised immediately after the first race, preferably disqualified, but because he got to keep his 4th place, it now means he gets to start on pole for Race 3. It's a disgrace, he should have been banned from the rest of this weekend, but if not, he should be suspended for China for sure. After all, there is a precedent for that now.


I was going to do a post about this after race 1 but it slipped my mind.

The stewards decided that while a move was deliberately made, no contact was made, Cameron didn't end up on the grass, and he got the position anyway, and wasn't passed by Hawkin. As a result, Swerts will receive a reprimand for dangerous driving, but no further action will be taken, unless Swerts repeats the incident.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 22:35
by dr-baker
When is the Surfers Superprix relative to the current round taking place, and will it clash with an F1RWRS round?

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 22:52
by DemocalypseNow
dr-baker wrote:When is the Surfers Superprix relative to the current round taking place, and will it clash with an F1RWRS round?

It might clash with Macau but I'm not sure. And remember that all F1RWRS drivers past and present are ineligible for F3RWRS in case you had forgotten...

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:14
by the Masked Lapwing
dr-baker wrote:When is the Surfers Superprix relative to the current round taking place, and will it clash with an F1RWRS round?


After this it's China, and then Surfers. I don't know if it clashes with the F1RWRS, all I know is it clashes with Canada in the F2.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:23
by dr-baker
kostas22 wrote:
dr-baker wrote:When is the Surfers Superprix relative to the current round taking place, and will it clash with an F1RWRS round?

It might clash with Macau but I'm not sure. And remember that all F1RWRS drivers past and present are ineligible for F3RWRS in case you had forgotten...

I know that. :roll: No, the reason I ask is that I am wondering whether I can use one of my new drivers that I have entered for the Superprix (Martin McFry and Eff One) as a replacement for Christopherson/his replacement after the Superprix?

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:55
by RonDenisDeletraz
Finally my team scored a point.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 00:11
by TomWazzleshaw
Klon wrote:He, wizzie, about the whole Jimenez thing: despite being too crap to allow him to get his Reject License you can keep him at JLD for the rest of the season (and perhaps beyond)... on one condition. :twisted:

Tropico News Today wrote:Joel Melrose joining Tropico's effort?

Whilst the Tropico F3RWRS Council considered getting Renaldo Jimenez from JLD Motorsport back, the team understandably resisted our effort because Jimenez, being Tropican, is their most successful driver by far.

In a very intelligent act of brilliance, El Presidente proposed a contract to Joel Melrose, the younger brother of perhaps one of the most famous tourists of our island, four-time F1 World Champion Daniel Melrose. A response is expected within a few days.


As far as the number goes, I'll be taking the "150".


Melrose to Tropico has got the go-ahead

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 00:20
by RonDenisDeletraz
Wizzie wrote:
Klon wrote:He, wizzie, about the whole Jimenez thing: despite being too crap to allow him to get his Reject License you can keep him at JLD for the rest of the season (and perhaps beyond)... on one condition. :twisted:

Tropico News Today wrote:Joel Melrose joining Tropico's effort?

Whilst the Tropico F3RWRS Council considered getting Renaldo Jimenez from JLD Motorsport back, the team understandably resisted our effort because Jimenez, being Tropican, is their most successful driver by far.


In a very intelligent act of brilliance, El Presidente proposed a contract to Joel Melrose, the younger brother of perhaps one of the most famous tourists of our island, four-time F1 World Champion Daniel Melrose. A response is expected within a few days.


As far as the number goes, I'll be taking the "150".


Melrose to Tropico has got the go-ahead


Jason Hamilton wrote:Are tropico seriously going to give that talentless hack a drive.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 02:23
by DemocalypseNow
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:How the f*** did Joel Melrose get a racing license to begin with? I hope it is swiftly revoked before he inevitably kills someone during his F3RWRS comeback.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 02:42
by TomWazzleshaw
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:How the f*** did Joel Melrose get a racing license to begin with? I hope it is swiftly revoked before he inevitably kills someone during his F3RWRS comeback.


Daniel Melrose wrote:That's very rich coming from you, the man who brought the world the 'legendary' Phil McCracken, the 'immortal' Bastiaan van whatever his name is, the 'superb' Enrico Molinaro and the 'unbelievable' Ragnar Larsen. Anyways, I had a long discussion with Joel after Brands Hatch and hopefully he'll stop hitting people on track and channel his inherent speed and aggression into good race performances. However, he did mention on a off-handed note after Germany that he wanted to punch the lights out of Mr Hamilton but never fear, I'll talk some sense into the kid before he does something incredibly stupid.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 02:48
by DemocalypseNow
Wizzie wrote:
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:How the f*** did Joel Melrose get a racing license to begin with? I hope it is swiftly revoked before he inevitably kills someone during his F3RWRS comeback.


Daniel Melrose wrote:That's very rich coming from you, the man who brought the world the 'legendary' Phil McCracken, the 'immortal' Bastiaan van whatever his name is, the 'superb' Enrico Molinaro and the 'unbelievable' Ragnar Larsen. Anyways, I had a long discussion with Joel after Brands Hatch and hopefully he'll stop hitting people on track and channel his inherent speed and aggression into good race performances. However, he did mention on a off-handed note after Germany that he wanted to punch the lights out of Mr Hamilton but never fear, I'll talk some sense into the kid before he does something incredibly stupid.


Alasdair Lindsay wrote:I apologise, I hadn't realised all you needed to be a world class racing driver was a semi-well known surname and an extreme crash habit! Don't be ridiculous, Molinaro has demonstrated he is far superior to Joel already, van Nieuwenhuijzen is only slow because you keep sabotaging his cars, Ragnar Larsen is hobbled by mediocre team management and McCracken was swiftly sacked for his poor performance! The fact this Joel arsewipe gets a second chance is a joke, he has already proven beyond doubt he is hopelessly incompetent and reckless at the wheel of a racing car.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 02:56
by RonDenisDeletraz
Red Bull PR wrote:Red Bull Team Jagermeister will not be at Surfers.

It has been announced that Red Bull Team Jagermeister will not compete in the Surfers SiperPrix in protest of Joel Melrose being given a Superlicence. In a statement today by a senior official within the team "We are disappointed that we have to do this but we have to take a stang about the rule that lets idiots like this get a superlicense just because his brother is a F1 champion. I've seen chimpanzees that are more talented than Joel Melrose". Red Bull Team Jagermeister will return (and hopefully get better results) for the 2015 season.


Jason Hamilton wrote:Punch my lights out eh. I'm bathplugging shite at fighting and I could smash that bathplug in a fight easily.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:00
by DemocalypseNow
eurobrun wrote:
Red Bull PR wrote:Red Bull Team Jagermeister will not be at Surfers.

It has been announced that Red Bull Team Jagermeister will not compete in the Surfers SiperPrix in protest of Joel Melrose being given a Superlicence. In a statement today by a senior official within the team "We are disappointed that we have to do this but we have to take a stang about the rule that lets idiots like this get a superlicense just because his brother is a F1 champion. I've seen chimpanzees that are more talented than Joel Melrose". Red Bull Team Jagermeister will return (and hopefully get better results) for the 2015 season.


Scuderia Alitala PR wrote:After the news that Red Bull Team Jagermeister will not attend the Surfers SuperPrix, we have decided to launch a petition against the return of Joel Melrose to F3RWRS. We urge all other members of the grid to sign as soon as possible, so we can hand the formal protest to the F3RWRS council and have him suspended indefinitely. If this appeal is either unsuccessful, or Tropico do not drop Melrose for Surfers, all petitioned teams shall boycott the race in protest, leaving Melrose free to have accidents on his own with no other drivers for miles who would die as a result of his stupidity.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:01
by TomWazzleshaw
kostas22 wrote:
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:I apologise, I hadn't realised all you needed to be a world class racing driver was a semi-well known surname and an extreme crash habit! Don't be ridiculous, Molinaro has demonstrated he is far superior to Joel already, van Nieuwenhuijzen is only slow because you keep sabotaging his cars, Ragnar Larsen is hobbled by mediocre team management and McCracken was swiftly sacked for his poor performance! The fact this Joel arsewipe gets a second chance is a joke, he has already proven beyond doubt he is hopelessly incompetent and reckless at the wheel of a racing car.


Semi Off-Topic for a minute and I still honestly have no idea why van Nieuwenhuijzen is being taken to the cleaners by just about everyone because the performance file is as follows:

First Driver=20,hansuke shioya,15800,200,16050,600
Second Driver=21,bastiaan nieuwenhuijzen,16000,700,16100,600

In theory, this means that he should be faster than Shioya on a consistent basis but something's crapped itself in GP4 which I can't find the root cause of because Shioya's performance has been fine.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:03
by DemocalypseNow
Wizzie wrote:First Driver=20,hansuke shioya,15800,200,16050,600
Second Driver=21,bastiaan nieuwenhuijzen,16000,700,16100,600

In theory, this means that he should be faster than Shioya on a consistent basis but something's crapped itself in GP4 which I can't find the root cause of because Shioya's performance has been fine.

It must be at the basement end of that 700 range in qualifying every single weekend then. Only having 15300 would make some sense...

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:05
by TomWazzleshaw
kostas22 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:First Driver=20,hansuke shioya,15800,200,16050,600
Second Driver=21,bastiaan nieuwenhuijzen,16000,700,16100,600

In theory, this means that he should be faster than Shioya on a consistent basis but something's crapped itself in GP4 which I can't find the root cause of because Shioya's performance has been fine.

It must be at the basement end of that 700 range in qualifying every single weekend then. Only having 15300 would make some sense...


Actually, his qualifying range is 600. One of the strange characteristics of GP4 performance files is that race performance comes before qualifying performance.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:07
by the Masked Lapwing
Round 5 - Spa - Race 3

1st: Michael Cameron (Prospec): 21:59.38 (8 laps)
2nd: Carter Simpson (ZimSport): +7.74
3rd: Eric Swerts (Jones): +10.36
4th: Shane Walsh (ZombieKart): +10.83
5th: Tomo Kazama (Prospec): +12.27
6th: Dan Greenlaw (ZombieKart): +14.20
7th: Hillary King (Team Phoenix): +22.08
8th: Lorenzo Crescenzi (Christopherson): +22.19
9th: Jean-Vincent Albertini (Albertini): +22.36
10th: Terry Hawkin (Jones): +22.38
11th: Ryan Zimmer (ZimSport): +22.58
12th: Jack Christopherson Jr (Christopherson): +22.78
13th: Ashley Lilly (MA-Junior): +22.93
14th: Samora Mondlane (Porto Wine): +30.38
15th: Gianluigi Pazzini (Alitalia): +31.93
16th: Yuka Katayama (Falik): +34.01
17th: Joe Harmsky (Shonan): +34.53
18th: Alessandro Lucarelli (Alitalia): +36.37
19th: Judd McAllister (Team Phoenix): +48.92
20th: Joao Cavalcanti (Porto Wine): +56.29
21st: Deiter Hallenstien (Red Bull): +1:00.03
22nd: Cesar Vialpondo (Team Phoenix): +1:50.29
23rd: Jose Maria Cabral (Porto Wine): +1 LAP
DNF: Enrico Molinaro (Alitalia): Out of Fuel (L6)
Fastest lap: Shane Walsh (2:46.49)

Cameron went for the adventurous no refuel strategy that Walsh and Pitea used at Laguna Seca, and made it pay off here. OK, so by the pit stop phase on laps 4-6, he was second anyway, which made his drive seem all the better. The result means that Cameron loses the round to Simpson by one point, thanks to Simpson's pole at the start of the weekend. Further back, King did an excellent job of being a mobile roadblock, meaning 7 cars finished within less than a second. The only DNF was Molinaro, who was the poor sod who got to pit last in the Scuderia Alitalia stable, running out of fuel just as he got to Blanchimont.

Round 5 - Wrap-Up

Round Winner: Carter Simpson - 19 points, 1 win, 1 2nd and pole position.
The pole made the difference as the worst performer for ZimSport in the early part of the season takes their first round win, although his race 2 wasn't very convincing.

Reject of the Weekend: Team Asia
Both cars gone on lap 1 of race 1. Whoops...

Infinite Improbability Drive of the Weekend: Dan Greenlaw
Somehow he recovered from that Norisring smash to take solid points in races 1 & 3, and fastest lap in race 2.


F3RWRS Championship Standings:
1st: M. Cameron - 63
2nd: T. Hawkin - 49
3rd: T. Kazama - 45
4th: J. Christopherson Jr - 42
5th: C. Simpson - 39
6th: E. Swerts - 34 (1 win)
=7th: J. Hamilton - 32 (1 win, 1 2nd)
=7th: J. Albertini - 32 (1 win, 1 3rd, 2 4ths)
=7th: R. Zimmer - 32 (1 win, 1 3rd, 1 4th)
10th: Y. Katayama - 24 (2 2nds)
=11th: A. Lucarelli - 15 (1 win)
=11th: D. Greenlaw - 15 (1 2nd)
13th: G. Pazzini - 14
=14th: L. Crescenzi - 12 (1 2nd)
=14th: S. Walsh - 12 (1 4th, 1 9th)
16th: J. Harmsky - 11
17th: A. Lilly - 10
18th: D. Lamberigts - 9
19th: R. Jimenez - 8 (1 2nd, 1 5th)
20th: H. King - 6 (2 7ths)
21st: J. McAllister - 5
=22nd: R. Zayas - 4 (1 3rd, 1 13th)
=22nd: D. Neuberg - 4 (1 3rd, 1 15th)
=24th: J. Cabral - 3 (1 4th, 1 9th)
=24th: S. Mondlane - 3 (1 4th, 1 14th)
=24th: I. Pitea - 3 (1 4th, 1 15th)
=24th: A. Donegro - 3 (1 4th, 1 16th)
=24th: Y. Sokolov - 3 (1 6th)
=29th: J. Maylander - 2 (1 5th, 1 8th)
=29th: A. Urrutia - 2 (1 6th, 1 8th)
=29th: J. Melrose - 2 (1 7th)
=32nd: D. Hallenstien - 1
=32nd: 30th: H. Naufal - 1

F3RWRS Teams' Standings:
1st: Pemberton Prospec Racing - 107
2nd: ZimSport-Rosenforth - 102
3rd: Jones Racing - 84
4th: Christopherson Racing - 54
5th: Ecurie Albertini - 32
6th: ZombieKart - 31
7th: Scuderia Alitalia - 29
8th: Falik Arrows Juniors - 24
=9th: MA-Junior Racing - 14 (1 win)
=9th: Shonan Junior Racing - 14 (1 3rd)
11th: Team Phoenix - 11
12th: Lotus Development - 9 (1 2nd)
13th: JLD Motorsport - 8
14th: Porto Wine Motorsport - 6
=15th: Dofasco Junior Racing - 5 (1 4th, 1 5th)
=15th: Tociclao Racing - 5 (1 4th, 1 6th)
=17th: Red Bull Team Jagermeister - 1 (1 6th, 1 7th)
=17th: Team Asia - 1 (1 6th, 1 8th)

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:08
by DemocalypseNow
Wizzie wrote:
kostas22 wrote:
Wizzie wrote:First Driver=20,hansuke shioya,15800,200,16050,600
Second Driver=21,bastiaan nieuwenhuijzen,16000,700,16100,600

In theory, this means that he should be faster than Shioya on a consistent basis but something's crapped itself in GP4 which I can't find the root cause of because Shioya's performance has been fine.

It must be at the basement end of that 700 range in qualifying every single weekend then. Only having 15300 would make some sense...


Actually, his qualifying range is 600. One of the strange characteristics of GP4 performance files is that race performance comes before qualifying performance.

I hope you are discarding the save file for the 2014 championship for 2015 and starting fresh (with the old performance files). Perhaps next year with those values he will do a bit better.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 03:31
by RonDenisDeletraz
If anyone wants to run either Paasonen or Hallenstein at surfers then their welcome.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 04:26
by DemocalypseNow
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Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 04:41
by RonDenisDeletraz
Jason Hamilton wrote:I don't care that i'm not in F3RWRS anymore. I fully endorse the petition produced by Scuderia Alitalia as Joel Melrose shoudn't be allowed to drive a Racecar ever again.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 06:46
by tommykl
TMLW, I think I found a few mistakes in the points standings: Cameron has 63, not 61. Kazama should have 45 and not 44, Katayama 24 and not 23 and Crescenzi 12 and not 10.

Also, you've Pazzini below Walsh in the standings, despite him having more points :P

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:03
by the Masked Lapwing
tommykl wrote:TMLW, I think I found a few mistakes in the points standings: Cameron has 63, not 61. Kazama should have 45 and not 44, Katayama 24 and not 23 and Crescenzi 12 and not 10.

Also, you've Pazzini below Walsh in the standings, despite him having more points :P


I acknowledge the mistakes with Cameron and Crescenzi (simply me failing to count), and Katayama (my spreadsheet had Kazama with fastest lap in race 1 at Brands Hatch), but I can't figure out where Kazama gets an extra point from.

I also seem to have made mistakes with Prospec's, Christopherson's and Falik's team scores, but I've fixed those.

(In my defence, I go back to school tomorrow, which means my brain has essentially closed up shop for the rest of the year.)

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:07
by RonDenisDeletraz
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
(In my defence, I go back to school tomorrow, which means my brain has essentially closed up shop for the rest of the year.)


Yay for having an extra week off.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:37
by Shizuka
kostas22 wrote:Image


That is hilarious, while looking nice! :lol:

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 07:48
by tommykl
the Masked Lapwing wrote:
tommykl wrote:TMLW, I think I found a few mistakes in the points standings: Cameron has 63, not 61. Kazama should have 45 and not 44, Katayama 24 and not 23 and Crescenzi 12 and not 10.

Also, you've Pazzini below Walsh in the standings, despite him having more points :P


I acknowledge the mistakes with Cameron and Crescenzi (simply me failing to count), and Katayama (my spreadsheet had Kazama with fastest lap in race 1 at Brands Hatch), but I can't figure out where Kazama gets an extra point from.

I also seem to have made mistakes with Prospec's, Christopherson's and Falik's team scores, but I've fixed those.

(In my defence, I go back to school tomorrow, which means my brain has essentially closed up shop for the rest of the year.)

Sorry about that, but I meant that Kazama had 44 and not 45 (and not 45 instead of 44), probably down to you having him score the fastest lap in race 1 at Brands Hatch :oops:

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 11:36
by AdrianSutil
MA-Junior: First win unexpected.

Debeutant Ashley Lilly took the win in race 2 at Spa this weekend, despite no-one expecting it! "It was totally against the run of play", said a delighted Lilly. "Ive only sat in the car twice before the weekend and neither myself or the team expected us to win here. I'm just delighted for everyone we could do it." Nor only have Ashley and MA-Junior shot up the standings, but Ashley has now collected his superlicence for next year, making him only the second driver in the F3RWRS to qualify for one after just one race. "We're delighted for Ashley for obtaining his superlicence so quickly. I had a gut feeling he would prove to be a shrewd signing, but I didn't expect a race win at the first weekend. The kids got talent."

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 12:21
by Warren Hughes
Pemberton Prospec Racing press release wrote:Once again we have been able to demonstrate the outright pace of our car, and our ability to get results in adversity. Michael has shown once again what an accomplished driver he is, and we fully expect him to move up to F2RWRS in 2015, hopefully with a championship under his belt. Tomo had a slightly more difficult weekend, but she showed real consistency in proving her ability to score points even when not quite at the top of her game. We look forward to having Max Torbani join us for the rest of the season. He is a really promising talent, if a little raw, and should be a real help to us in our quest to secure both championships.

Finally, we do not endorse the petition by Scuderia Alitalia to deny Joel Melrose his racing license, and will certainly not be boycotting the Surfers SuperPrix under any circumstances.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 12:44
by Phoenix
Red Bull Team Phoenix Racing Team announces that it won't oppose the decision to let Tropico racer Joel Melrose to compete at the Surfers SuperPrix, and thus will not boycott the event.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 13:19
by AdrianSutil
MA-Junior have announced they will not boycott the Surfers Superprix. MA-Junior feel that every driver should be given enough opportunities to prove himself in a highly competitive series.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 13:21
by Pointrox
Ecurie Albertini decided that they will go on hunger strike and won't eat supper in opposition to Joe Melrose's return to F3RWRS for Surfers Superprix.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 13:24
by AndreaModa
Sammy Jones wrote:Whilst I consider Joel Melrose to be a somewhat unrefined racing driver, I will not actively campaign in such a vigorous manner to see him prevented from racing at the Surfers SuperPrix. Therefore, by extension, the Jones Racing F3RWRS team will be participating at the same event.

The team's performance this weekend, was overall a good one. Swerts is starting to come into his own now, whilst Hawkin had a more difficult weekend, he's suffered badly with slower cars in both race 2 and 3. Nevertheless, both are ably demonstrating their abilities, particularly Hawkin who will dovetail both F3RWRS with a seat at Scuderia Jones Italia in the F2RWRS for the remainder of the year.


Terry Hawkin wrote:It's been a very busy weekend for me, running in both the F3RWRS and F2RWRS races, but I think overall it's been positive. Another podium for the team in race 1, as well as the fastest lap has given me some good points, but I can't help but feel that Cameron has the ultimate advantage over me in the drivers' championship. Hopefully I can do something about that, but with only two rounds left, I'm not so sure. All I can do is keep on doing the best I can for the team, and maybe the results will fall our way.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 14:36
by Shizuka
Shonan DMS Junior would also like to participate in the race.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:35
by the Masked Lapwing
F3RWRS Commission Announcement Regarding the Surfers SuperPrix Boycott

The F3RWRS Commission is pleased that so many teams have decided not to boycott the race after Joel Melrose was allowed to race. However, they would like to give an official warning to Scuderia Alitalia, Red Bull Team Jagermeister, and anyone else thinking of a boycott. If they do not back down, they will face a severe penalty, including a ban from participation at the Round of China, and possibly from the start of the 2015 F3RWRS season.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:47
by DemocalypseNow
the Masked Lapwing wrote:F3RWRS Commission Announcement Regarding the Surfers SuperPrix Boycott

The F3RWRS Commission is pleased that so many teams have decided not to boycott the race after Joel Melrose was allowed to race. However, they would like to give an official warning to Scuderia Alitalia, Red Bull Team Jagermeister, and anyone else thinking of a boycott. If they do not back down, they will face a severe penalty, including a ban from participation at the Round of China, and possibly from the start of the 2015 F3RWRS season.

Alasdair Lindsay wrote:What the hell is this? Are we in some sort of dictatorship? Free speech is no longer allowed? This is a disgusting move by the F3RWRS Commission. We have done nothing to justify a penalty. If they decide to ban us we will be taking the case to a court of law. The irony of all this will be the F3RWRS Commission breaking their own rules in relation to Article 151c. We had precedent to voice our concerns in the manner we did, and if they have a problem with that, perhaps they should consider following their own rules before trying to suppress the genuine concerns of the teams. The only other breach of 151c in this case is the presence of Mr Joel Melrose.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:53
by TomWazzleshaw
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:What the hell is this? Are we in some sort of dictatorship? Free speech is no longer allowed? This is a disgusting move by the F3RWRS Commission. We have done nothing to justify a penalty. If they decide to ban us we will be taking the case to a court of law. The irony of all this will be the F3RWRS Commission breaking their own rules in relation to Article 151c. We had precedent to voice our concerns in the manner we did, and if they have a problem with that, perhaps they should consider following their own rules before trying to suppress the genuine concerns of the teams. The only other breach of 151c in this case is the presence of Mr Joel Melrose.


The renamed F1RWRS Commission, the day before last year's German GP wrote:F1RWRS Council send a warning to big mouths

The F1RWRS council has been called into an urgency meeting regarding the press coverage bonanza some team owners are getting lately by discrediting some of their rivals. "Of course there must be rivalry, and team owners are, by nature, going to disagree with their colleagues, but we've noticed some of them going too far with their words lately. The council has decided not to take any action this time, but we want to send a warning; we won´t tolerate any personal offenses from now on, and we´re going to award penalties where it hurts the most: Credits (race bans for drivers). Any disrespectful and offensive language will be penalised with anything from 50 to 500 credits, with no exceptions. We remind the team owners that this is a sport, and that the regulations everyone signed already foresee this, in particular Article 15.4, section C: "Penalties can be awarded to any team, driver or any other team member if they consistently fail to show commitment for the good of the sport. Penalties can also be provided if a team, team owner or any other team member, including drivers, bring the sport to disrespectful practices or damage the global image of the sport"

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:16
by DemocalypseNow
Wizzie wrote:
Alasdair Lindsay wrote:What the hell is this? Are we in some sort of dictatorship? Free speech is no longer allowed? This is a disgusting move by the F3RWRS Commission. We have done nothing to justify a penalty. If they decide to ban us we will be taking the case to a court of law. The irony of all this will be the F3RWRS Commission breaking their own rules in relation to Article 151c. We had precedent to voice our concerns in the manner we did, and if they have a problem with that, perhaps they should consider following their own rules before trying to suppress the genuine concerns of the teams. The only other breach of 151c in this case is the presence of Mr Joel Melrose.


The renamed F1RWRS Commission, the day before last year's German GP wrote:F1RWRS Council send a warning to big mouths

The F1RWRS council has been called into an urgency meeting regarding the press coverage bonanza some team owners are getting lately by discrediting some of their rivals. "Of course there must be rivalry, and team owners are, by nature, going to disagree with their colleagues, but we've noticed some of them going too far with their words lately. The council has decided not to take any action this time, but we want to send a warning; we won´t tolerate any personal offenses from now on, and we´re going to award penalties where it hurts the most: Credits (race bans for drivers). Any disrespectful and offensive language will be penalised with anything from 50 to 500 credits, with no exceptions. We remind the team owners that this is a sport, and that the regulations everyone signed already foresee this, in particular Article 15.4, section C: "Penalties can be awarded to any team, driver or any other team member if they consistently fail to show commitment for the good of the sport. Penalties can also be provided if a team, team owner or any other team member, including drivers, bring the sport to disrespectful practices or damage the global image of the sport"

Alasdair Lindsay wrote:Well, yes, precisely. It seems people are turning a blind eye to Joel Melrose's antics last time he sat in an F3RWRS car. He deliberately failed to apply the brakes heading into a medium speed right hand corner and could have easily killed someone with his reckless driving. I certainly think such behaviour comes under "[damaging] the global image of the sport". We don't need another death after the tragedy of Dave McFaste. People must not get complacent about driver safety. This is why I insist on my complaint against his presence on track at Surfers.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 22:49
by RonDenisDeletraz
Red Bull PR wrote:After the desicion made by the F3RWRS Comission Red Bull Team Jagermeister has announced that they will not go ahead with the planned boycotting of the SuperPrix and will instead use the NASCAR practice of Start and Parking. They will also run an unsposored livery with a copy of the Alitalia petition on the airbox. A Red Bull official said "It is regrettable that we have to do this but neither of our drivers feel safe with that Joel Melrsoe idiot on the track".

Jason Hamilton wrote:It is an absolute disgrace that the F3RWRS commission have banned free speech. What makes the sport look worse, a couple of unconpetitive teams boycotting a race or a fatality because some idiot is incapable of safely driving a racecar

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 23:07
by Nessafox
Lotus Development personnel go on a strike, apparently because of rumours that the team wants to cut back their loans.

Dennis Mignolet wrote:Yes it's true we have financial difficulties, which is caused by excessive repair costs, which i blame to those tons of careless drivers out here, and the Alitalia money not being arrived yet. We would like to ask mr. Lindsay to immediatly pay the money for Ragnar Larsen, otherwise, we will take him to court. Our personnel will be paid, we'll find a solution! After all we owe a lot of money from Scuderia Alitalia, (and from Lotus Development). We however have to repeat we are not in financial trouble, we have lots of other great financial partners.

Re: F3RWRS - Yet another feeder series

Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 23:22
by DemocalypseNow
This wrote:
Lotus Development personnel go on a strike, apparently because of rumours that the team wants to cut back their loans.

Dennis Mignolet wrote:Yes it's true we have financial difficulties, which is caused by excessive repair costs, which i blame to those tons of careless drivers out here, and the Alitalia money not being arrived yet. We would like to ask mr. Lindsay to immediatly pay the money for Ragnar Larsen, otherwise, we will take him to court. Our personnel will be paid, we'll find a solution! After all we owe a lot of money from Scuderia Alitalia, (and from Lotus Development). We however have to repeat we are not in financial trouble, we have lots of other great financial partners.

Alasdair Lindsay wrote:This is total nonsense. All payments were sent on time by escrow, we have the receipts to prove all payments were sent to the correct destination at the correct time. We will not have these amateurs drag us through the mire. If they will make up false stories again Ragnar will move somewhere else, I'm sure Christopherson won't mind having a 3rd car.