Grand Prix Rejects

peteroli34 wrote:I thought we could only test after every two grand prix so the next test avalibilty would be after the Mexican grand prix

Yeah that's right! Next testing AFTER the mexican GP it will probably today or tomorow as there is nothing to sort out!

News flash

Ford will bring a new engine for the Mexican GP. Ford said that they are glad to see that Arrows perfoms well and thay hope that there update will help them.

Judd will bring an engine update for the French GP! It will be free for Lotus and 1.5m$ for the other teams. They can purchase the update now!

Goodyear stated that they will bring new tyres to Mexico, they should bring a little performance boost. The update is free!

Lotus accept the Judd update

Martini's race performance is the only problem here... in qualifying, I can accept if he's not that good as his team-mate.
But thankfully, we have money to develop later on.

Goddamnit Senna, you blew a pretty much guaranteed podium there!

Also, did Nanninni have some sort of mechanical troubles? No way he should've been down in 8th, behind Minardis and Tyrrells on pure pace alone

Bleu wrote:Compared to real-life the all cars seem too reliable.

Yes with this amount of reliability and this points system, it is close to impossible for about a third of the teams to score any points and therefore valuable prize money. I see Minardi are $2.4m in debt after just one test which means we have to score 24 points to make that back if our only prize money comes from points. No way are we going to manage that.

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Goddamnit Senna, you blew a pretty much guaranteed podium there!

Also, did Nanninni have some sort of mechanical troubles? No way he should've been down in 8th, behind Minardis and Tyrrells on pure pace alone

I have to ask, how in the hell did you manage to get Senna to race for Benetton?

Yes! That's how Jean Alesi's career should have been! And at Canada too, how fitting

Samster wrote:

Bleu wrote:Compared to real-life the all cars seem too reliable.

Yes with this amount of reliability and this points system, it is close to impossible for about a third of the teams to score any points and therefore valuable prize money. I see Minardi are $2.4m in debt after just one test which means we have to score 24 points to make that back if our only prize money comes from points. No way are we going to manage that.

There is also a posibility to get prize money for a top 10 position in the constructors championship(minardi is on a godd way). At the beginning of the 1991 season all teams have to sign sponsors! There will the most money for the teams come from!

FullMetalJack wrote:
I have to ask, how in the hell did you manage to get Senna to race for Benetton?

He was the only who offered him a drive!

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Goddamnit Senna, you blew a pretty much guaranteed podium there!

Also, did Nanninni have some sort of mechanical troubles? No way he should've been down in 8th, behind Minardis and Tyrrells on pure pace alone

Nannini wasn't that well on pace the whole weekend! He had to make a pit stop in round 1! He had a collision with Häkkinen!

FullMetalJack wrote:I have to ask, how in the hell did you manage to get Senna to race for Benetton?

Kidnap, bribery and extortion

Hey,
i was't at home yesterday so i couln't do the race! I will do it tomorow or maybe friday!

You can already submit your testing plans for testing after the mexico GP. Please submit until 24th August 20:00 EEST

Greats Hermann

After the Mexican Grand Prix Tyrrell will head to Brands Hatch to continue testing our active suspension system hopefully its successful

Leyton House will test rear wing at Silverstone with all three cars.

Round 6: Mexico

Pre Qualifying

1 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:20.948
2 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:21.049
3 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:21.279
4 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:21.614
5 Heinz-Harald Frentzen (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:21.952 DNPQ
6 Alan McNish (Eurobrun-Ford) 1:22.491 DNPQ
7 Olivier Grouillard (Osella-Ford) 1:22.545 DNPQ
8 Paolo Barilla (Coloni-Judd) 1:22.986 DNPQ
9 Piercarlo Ghinzani (Osella-Ford) 1:23.320 DNPQ

Round 6: Mexico

Qualifying

1 Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) 1:18.866
2 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) 1:18.888
3 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:19.031
4 Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) 1:19.168
5 Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) 1:19.402
6 Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) 1:19.440
7 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:19.607
8 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:19.613
9 Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) 1:19.796
10 Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:19.899
11 Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) 1:20.006
12 Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) 1:20.035
13 Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) 1:20.293
14 Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) 1:20.768
15 Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) 1:20.779
16 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:20.806
17 Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) 1:20.896
18 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) 1:21.156
19 Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) 1:21.162
20 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) 1:21.177
21 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) 1:21.197
22 Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) 1:21.212
23 Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) 1:21.220
24 Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) 1:21.223
25 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:21.410
26 Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:21.499
27 Fabricio Giovanardi (Minardi-Judd) 1:21.502 DNPQ
28 Gabriele Tarquini (Dallara-Lamborghini) 1:21.517 DNPQ
29 Alex Caffi (AGS-Lamborghini) 1:21.811 DNPQ
30 Gregor Foitek (Onyx-Ford) 1:22.240 DNPQ

Round 6: Mexico

Race

What a race here at Mexico. It was an extraordinary hot day which caused many riterements. Prost had a very poor start falling back behind Alesi and Piquet. 4th was Modena followed by Nakajima and Boutsen. Alesi was very fast from the beginning leting Piquet no chance to follow. Piquet was passed by Prost in lap 5. The order in the front didn't really changed for a while. In lap 31the very bad day for renault startet with the engine blow up from Modena. All 4 Engines failed to come any further than lap 47! After the pit stops Alesi was still in the lead followed by Prost and Senna. Boutsen was 4th and Piquet 5th. In lap 39 Prost ritered because of a broken gearbox. In lap 46 there was an extraordinary incident: Andrea de Cesaris tried to overtake Patrese which was in a fight with Moreno. The attempt failed end de Cesaris smashed into Patrese and his car chrashed Moreno from the track! All 3 cars where out. In lap 47 the forth and last Renault engine failed. Thiery Boutsen who was up into 4th position chasing Senna had to give up. From lap 50 on Ayrton Senna had some problems with his gearbox causing that Häkkinen could easy go through. At the end of the day only 9 cars scross the finishline and Stefan Johansson scored 1 point for Onyx.

1 Jean Alesi (Meclaren-Honda) 1:40:13.780
2 Mika Häkkinen (Footwork Arrows-Ford) 1:40:27.795
3 Ayrton Senna (Benneton-Ford) 1:41:15.270
4 Nigel Mansell (Brabham-Ford) 1:41:30.027
5 Nelson Piquet (Ferrari) -1 lap
6 Stefan Johansson (Onyx-Ford) -1 lap
7 Eric van der Poele (Lotus-Judd) -2 laps
8 Nicola Larini (Dallara-Lamborghini) -2 laps
9 Michele Alboreto (Minardi-Judd) -2 laps
— Derek Warwick (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 62/Gearbox
Ivan Capelli (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 51/Brakes
Bertrand Gachot (AGS-Lamborghini) DNF lap 51/Gearbox
Thierry Boutsen (Williams-Renault) DNF lap 47/Engine
Martin Brundle (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 47/Engine
Roberto Moreno (Ligier-Ford) DNF lap 46/Collision
Andrea de Cesaris (Brabham-Ford) DNF lap 46/Collision
Ricardo Patrese (Leyton House-Ford) DNF lap 46/Collision
Alessandro Nannini (Benneton-Ford) DNF lap 43/Engine
Mark Blundell (Tyrell-Renault) DNF lap 40/Engine
Alain Prost (Meclaren-Honda) DNF lap 39/Gearbox
Alessandro Zanardi (Larrouse-Ford) DNF lap 37/Suspension
Satoru Nakajima (Ferrari) DNF lap 36/Accident
Rene Arnoux (Footwork Arrows-Ford) DNF lap 34/Engine
Stefano Modena (Williams-Renault) DNF lap 31/Engine
Gerhard Berger (Lotus-Judd) DNF lap 16/Accident
Pierluigi Martini (Larrousse-Ford) DNF lap 4/Gearbox

Fastest lap: Jean Alesi

Well thats disappointing paying renualt 1M fo an engine upgrade which has made it worse shouldnt it have been improved

Drivers Championship

1.Jean Alesi 24
2. Thierry Boutsen 19
3. Ayrton Senna 19
4. Alain Prost 15
5. Nelson Piquet 15
6. Mika Häkkinen 14
7. Stefano Modena 10
8. Alessandro Nannini 10
9. Gerhard Berger 9
10. Nigel Mansell 5
11. Satoru Nakajima 3
12. Michele Alboreto 3
13. Alessandro Zanardi 2
14. Martin Brundle 1
15. Stefan Johansson 1


Constructors Championship
1. Mclaren 39
2. Williams 29
3. Benneton 29
4. Ferrari 18
5. Arrows 14
6. Lotus 9
7. Brabham 5
8. Minardi 3
9. Larrouse 2
10. Tyrell 1
11. Onyx 1

Prize Money
Mclaren 900k
Arrows 600k
Benneton 400k
Brabham 300k
Ferrari 200k
Onyx 100k

Pole Position Challange
Alain Prost 3
Nelson Piquet 2
Jean Alesi 1

Fastest Lap Challange
Jean Alesi 2
Alain Prost 1
Stefano Modena 1
Gerhard Berger 1
Thierry Boutsen 1

The Larini Way: Consistant! That 8th shows that, at least, the Lambo engine was bulletproof in a day where engines just pop smoke. Tarquini is proving to be a dissapointment, but the return to testing might work out.

As I said before, Dallara will go to Imola for testing

Car 1: Floor
Car 2: Floor
Car 3: Adjustable Front Wing

Does Osella still can have testing gigs?

FantometteBR wrote:Does Osella still can have testing gigs?

Yeah! Testing is now open until 24th August!

Asuka Kuwashima, on seeing Johansson making it to the finish line in the points position, wrote:Yatta a~! *drinks a lot of sake for the rest of the day*

Meanwhile, the Foiteks have withdrew their shares after Gregor kept DNPQing and the fact he kept complaining about alleged harassment towards him, meaning Onyx will need a new second driver. (What drivers are available? We will also test front and rear wings again)

Osella will takes its three cars to Monza to test the rear wings

Okay, this is going to be a big update.

I'd like all my drivers to test a new power steering system at Monza.

All AGS drivers will continue to look at the Adjustable Rear Wing, this time at the Le Mans circuit.

Warwick will test the cooling system, Moreno and Comas will test the floor at Le Castellet.

All three Lotus drivers will visit Brands Hatch to test an adjustable rear wing update

FMecha wrote:

Asuka Kuwashima, on seeing Johansson making it to the finish line in the points position, wrote:Yatta a~! *drinks a lot of sake for the rest of the day*

Meanwhile, the Foiteks have withdrew their shares after Gregor kept DNPQing and the fact he kept complaining about alleged harassment towards him, meaning Onyx will need a new second driver. (What drivers are available? We will also test front and rear wings again)

Tyrrell would be more than happy to loan Onyx our test driver Eddie Irvine for the rest of the season, for a small fee of course

All three EuroBrun drivers will test the adjustable rear wing at Le Castellet.

As previously mentioned, following the Mexican GP, Williams will stop over at Road America to test the following:

Car 1: Power Steering
Car 2: Front Wing
Car 3: Rear Wing

Wow, excellent for mika, bad for arnoux..... We will go to silverstone, with mika and rene working on front woling and damon on the rear wing

McLaren will keep working on the sequential gearbox with all 3 drivers at Imola.

Senna and Nanninni will work on the sequential gearbox, Schumacher will work on front wing at Mondello Park

peteroli34 wrote:

FMecha wrote:

Asuka Kuwashima, on seeing Johansson making it to the finish line in the points position, wrote:Yatta a~! *drinks a lot of sake for the rest of the day*

Meanwhile, the Foiteks have withdrew their shares after Gregor kept DNPQing and the fact he kept complaining about alleged harassment towards him, meaning Onyx will need a new second driver. (What drivers are available? We will also test front and rear wings again)

Tyrrell would be more than happy to loan Onyx our test driver Eddie Irvine for the rest of the season, for a small fee of course

How much?

How much?

Irvine is yours if you give Tyrrell 100K

for 50 k you can get Damon Hill as a regular driver

peteroli34 wrote:

How much?

Irvine is yours if you give Tyrrell 100K

100k for Eddie Irvine? Are you sure you're not talking about a life-size replica of Eddie made of gold?

pasta_maldonado wrote:

peteroli34 wrote:

How much?

Irvine is yours if you give Tyrrell 100K

100k for Eddie Irvine? Are you sure you're not talking about a life-size replica of Eddie made of gold?

We need to get rid of that gold statue of Eddie Irvine dont know what Ken Tyrrell was smoking when he brought it

Tyrrell will let you have Irvine for 50K

Testing

Tyrell

Active suspension system didn't worked

Leyton House

Rear Wing succesful

Dallara

Floor succesful
Adjustable Front Wing system didn't work

Onyx
Note: Onyx has in the moment only one driver! So i decided that the tested a new Front Wing because it was mentioned first!

Front Wing not succesful

Osella

Rear Wing not succesful

Larrousse

Power steering system didn't work

AGS

Adjustable Rear Wing system worked

Ligier

Cooling System succesful
Floor succesful

Lotus

Adjustable Rear Wing system didn't worked

Eurobrun

Adjustable Rear Wing system didn't work

Williams

Power Steering not succesful
Front Wing not succesful
Rear Wing not succesful

Arrows

Front Wing not succesful
Rear Wing succesful

Mclaren

sequential gearbox system worked

Benneton

sequential gearbox system didn't work
Front Wing not succesful