Grand Prix Rejects

go_Rubens wrote:This came to my mind when Cynon came up with the Rejecttrucks Super Series. He mentioned that no one had come up with the idea of truck racing and no events based partly on ovals. So, this same thought came to my mind about endurance racing, especially with Le Mans next weekend. So, I thought, what if F1 Rejects had a series for endurance racing? With prototypes and touring cars? Would people be interested? Would I (or someone else) be able to run this series properly? Should the series be canon or non-canon?

So, my idea is to have an endurance racing series. What do you think?

I think the series should be called the "F1RWEC," which stands for "Formula 1 Rejects World Endurance Championship."

dr-baker wrote:I can't remember if I have posted this before but... I would love to see a canon F1RHRS: F1 Rejects Historical Race Series. It would be based in the present day, but would use cars from the 1960s (possibly 70s/80s too, depending on the platform being used to recreate the series). If I were to run it, I would need to master the GP Legends game first, but sadly I don't have the time to run any series. I am just throwing an idea out there to check demand and if anybody wishes to take responsibility for this. Otherwise, it may be something that I will try to do upon graduation, planned to be in 12 months' time.

FMecha wrote:(Oh, and check NJGP thread)

Nuppiz wrote:

dr-baker wrote:I can't remember if I have posted this before but... I would love to see a canon F1RHRS: F1 Rejects Historical Race Series. It would be based in the present day, but would use cars from the 1960s (possibly 70s/80s too, depending on the platform being used to recreate the series). If I were to run it, I would need to master the GP Legends game first, but sadly I don't have the time to run any series. I am just throwing an idea out there to check demand and if anybody wishes to take responsibility for this. Otherwise, it may be something that I will try to do upon graduation, planned to be in 12 months' time.

I think AndreaModa planned something like this, but nothing has been heard of it since...

My next championship will feature the Porsche 356B, although the series will take place in the early 1960s. And I'm researching the possibility of implementing cars from the Classic Car GT mod to it in later seasons.

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Nuppiz wrote:

dr-baker wrote:I can't remember if I have posted this before but... I would love to see a canon F1RHRS: F1 Rejects Historical Race Series. It would be based in the present day, but would use cars from the 1960s (possibly 70s/80s too, depending on the platform being used to recreate the series). If I were to run it, I would need to master the GP Legends game first, but sadly I don't have the time to run any series. I am just throwing an idea out there to check demand and if anybody wishes to take responsibility for this. Otherwise, it may be something that I will try to do upon graduation, planned to be in 12 months' time.

I think AndreaModa planned something like this, but nothing has been heard of it since...

My next championship will feature the Porsche 356B, although the series will take place in the early 1960s. And I'm researching the possibility of implementing cars from the Classic Car GT mod to it in later seasons.

Any historic series defenitely have a place in F1RWRS-canon. There's only one pre-nineties series, if i remember correctly. There would be a lot of 'grandfathers of' in this series, that's for sure.

Ataxia wrote:After much thinking, I've thought of a new way to do a managerial series.

Having played EA's F1 Manager quite a bit of late, I thought that perhaps I could lift some features and bring them into a series here.

So, the season would begin in 1997. I'd use GP2 to run the series, but only really because it's easily moddable and because I have it. Now, this is where things get interesting.

Some new features would include...
- Teams can sign personnel; teams begin with their chief designers of that year but can sign new designers.
- Money based on sponsorship deals; teams are offered title sponsorship deals and different deals
- Drivers bring sponsorship; drivers can be thrown in with sponsorship deals (eg. Takagi and PIAA)
- Drivers can also be thrown in with engine deals (eg. Nakano with Mugen Honda)
- In-season testing.
- Option of 1, 2, or 3-year contracts.
- Driver/designer rating system out of 20 (this can change with good/bad results)

In addition, I'd keep the original drivers, designers and engines for 1997 in.

Of course, these are just some thoughts I had; if I have time over the summer I may be able to get this going. If I did, would anyone be interested?

takagi_for_the_win wrote:I'm considering rebooting my Pen and Paper F1 management series, would anyone be interested? For those that don't know what it is, its similar in principal to tommykl's WCR series, except its based in more recent times than the 50's. I'm planning to start it from 2000, and there will be some changes to the format from last time.

Firstly, I intend to use the weighted choice system for signing drivers, rather than the free for all we had last time. Secondly, I'll let team managers decide on the strategy they intend to use for the race, thirdly I'll allow upgrades after every race rather than one every four, and finally, if there's a waiting list, I'll let those on the waiting list control suppliers (engine, tyre)

Would anyone be up for this?

The #17 Generic Racing car was really smashed up in the last race. It can be patched up in time for the nest round within budget, but the quick turnaround means the car could fail to take the start at the next round even if it arrives. You can however, for slightly more money, have the #17 skip this round to focus on repairs for the round after next. This will ensure the car is back to full strength and almost impossible to DNS. The third and fourth options are to blow a medium/large percentage of the annual budget to purchase a new or used chassis from elsewhere in time for the next round. What do you do?

A. Patch it up, 50% chance of DNS, $100
B. Fix it up. Skip next round, $150
C. Purchase used chassis from Max-Speed, £5,000
D. Purchase new chassis from CarbonTech, £9,000

Stramala wrote:How would people feel about a non-canon racing team management series based around the same kind of concept as The Great Race? As in, you make decisions, and those decisions will be the difference between everyone. For example...

The #17 Generic Racing car was really smashed up in the last race. It can be patched up in time for the nest round within budget, but the quick turnaround means the car could fail to take the start at the next round even if it arrives. You can however, for slightly more money, have the #17 skip this round to focus on repairs for the round after next. This will ensure the car is back to full strength and almost impossible to DNS. The third and fourth options are to blow a medium/large percentage of the annual budget to purchase a new or used chassis from elsewhere in time for the next round. What do you do?

A. Patch it up, 50% chance of DNS, $100
B. Fix it up. Skip next round, $150
C. Purchase used chassis from Max-Speed, £5,000
D. Purchase new chassis from CarbonTech, £9,000

WaffleCat wrote:

Stramala wrote:How would people feel about a non-canon racing team management series based around the same kind of concept as The Great Race? As in, you make decisions, and those decisions will be the difference between everyone. For example...

The #17 Generic Racing car was really smashed up in the last race. It can be patched up in time for the nest round within budget, but the quick turnaround means the car could fail to take the start at the next round even if it arrives. You can however, for slightly more money, have the #17 skip this round to focus on repairs for the round after next. This will ensure the car is back to full strength and almost impossible to DNS. The third and fourth options are to blow a medium/large percentage of the annual budget to purchase a new or used chassis from elsewhere in time for the next round. What do you do?

A. Patch it up, 50% chance of DNS, $100
B. Fix it up. Skip next round, $150
C. Purchase used chassis from Max-Speed, £5,000
D. Purchase new chassis from CarbonTech, £9,000

*cough*

Still,I bet you could run a thing like that better than my project so far,but my first season so far has been trying tot get to grips with the budget back in my timeline (1983],like the cost of a new chassis and so on.

Stramala wrote:

WaffleCat wrote:

Stramala wrote:How would people feel about a non-canon racing team management series based around the same kind of concept as The Great Race? As in, you make decisions, and those decisions will be the difference between everyone. For example...

*cough*

Still,I bet you could run a thing like that better than my project so far,but my first season so far has been trying tot get to grips with the budget back in my timeline (1983],like the cost of a new chassis and so on.

No, that's not the same thing, my idea is *everyone* has their own team and drivers, rather than everyone making decisions for one team and driver. Hence why I mentioned The Great Race and not your series.

WaffleCat wrote:

Stramala wrote:

WaffleCat wrote:*cough*

Still,I bet you could run a thing like that better than my project so far,but my first season so far has been trying tot get to grips with the budget back in my timeline (1983],like the cost of a new chassis and so on.

No, that's not the same thing, my idea is *everyone* has their own team and drivers, rather than everyone making decisions for one team and driver. Hence why I mentioned The Great Race and not your series.

Sorry,misinterpreted your post. But,in actual fact,now that I see your post in another way,it looks like a series in which I could be quite interested in. If this starts up,I'm definitely entering.

FMecha wrote:I am planning a GT5 online race using both Roadster TC and Roadster NA Special Package (each seperated by class and division). Max PP is 500, with ABS and driving line as the allowed aids. Anyone in for that?

Klon wrote:

FMecha wrote:I am planning a GT5 online race using both Roadster TC and Roadster NA Special Package (each seperated by class and division). Max PP is 500, with ABS and driving line as the allowed aids. Anyone in for that?

You have GT5? Why the hell haven'T you been at our (RealRacingRoots, Ferrarist and yours trulli) races? Shame on you.

Ataxia wrote:

Ataxia wrote:After much thinking, I've thought of a new way to do a managerial series.

Having played EA's F1 Manager quite a bit of late, I thought that perhaps I could lift some features and bring them into a series here.

So, the season would begin in 1997. I'd use GP2 to run the series, but only really because it's easily moddable and because I have it. Now, this is where things get interesting.

Some new features would include...
- Teams can sign personnel; teams begin with their chief designers of that year but can sign new designers.
- Money based on sponsorship deals; teams are offered title sponsorship deals and different deals
- Drivers bring sponsorship; drivers can be thrown in with sponsorship deals (eg. Takagi and PIAA)
- Drivers can also be thrown in with engine deals (eg. Nakano with Mugen Honda)
- In-season testing.
- Option of 1, 2, or 3-year contracts.
- Driver/designer rating system out of 20 (this can change with good/bad results)

In addition, I'd keep the original drivers, designers and engines for 1997 in.

Of course, these are just some thoughts I had; if I have time over the summer I may be able to get this going. If I did, would anyone be interested?

Although I may change a few things here and there, I might be able to get this going. I've been introduced to formulae for perf development and such other things, so that results and other mitigating factors (such as age) can have an effect on the driver's performance in race and qualifying.

If I can actually get the foundations in place and plan it properly (unlike the last time, which amounted more to a jumble sale than a management series) I'd like to give this a go. It'll be as immersive as possible.

Julien wrote:

Shadaza wrote:I have an idea for another sign up

Not sure if you guys have heard of the game show "The Amazing Race."

But the basic principle is teams of 2 compete on a race around the world over several legs, with teams being eliminated at the end of most of the legs.
In the show the winning team receives $1 million dollars. Whilst I can't provide that kind of reward (or any reward really ) I have created a test round for you guys to play if interested, with a very motorsport themed leg to keep things relevant. I'd just like to know if anybody would be interested to play (I would like somewhere between 10 and 12 teams). Basically the principle will be you have to make decisions about what to do or where to go which cost time and the person with the lowest total time wins, the loser gets eliminated.

One of the best game shows ever Count me in!

roblomas52 wrote:

Julien wrote:

Shadaza wrote:I have an idea for another sign up

Not sure if you guys have heard of the game show "The Amazing Race."

But the basic principle is teams of 2 compete on a race around the world over several legs, with teams being eliminated at the end of most of the legs.
In the show the winning team receives $1 million dollars. Whilst I can't provide that kind of reward (or any reward really ) I have created a test round for you guys to play if interested, with a very motorsport themed leg to keep things relevant. I'd just like to know if anybody would be interested to play (I would like somewhere between 10 and 12 teams). Basically the principle will be you have to make decisions about what to do or where to go which cost time and the person with the lowest total time wins, the loser gets eliminated.

One of the best game shows ever Count me in!

Hell yeah I'm in

go_Rubens wrote:

roblomas52 wrote:

Shadaza wrote:I have an idea for another sign up

Not sure if you guys have heard of the game show "The Amazing Race."

But the basic principle is teams of 2 compete on a race around the world over several legs, with teams being eliminated at the end of most of the legs.
In the show the winning team receives $1 million dollars. Whilst I can't provide that kind of reward (or any reward really ) I have created a test round for you guys to play if interested, with a very motorsport themed leg to keep things relevant. I'd just like to know if anybody would be interested to play (I would like somewhere between 10 and 12 teams). Basically the principle will be you have to make decisions about what to do or where to go which cost time and the person with the lowest total time wins, the loser gets eliminated.

Julien wrote:One of the best game shows ever Count me in!

Hell yeah I'm in

Ja ja ja ja ja!

roblomas52 wrote:Also, how do you put your own track designs into Xkonorate?

Preview! wrote:
Team owners have come to the decision that road car relevance should form the basis of the series. The next decision to be made will be to decide what vehicles should take to the track.

Option A

Michael Krumm, chairman of Deutsche Autowerks.
"The DMW A3 is a class leader in executive performance cars and has real pedigree in other racing series. It would be the ideal vehicle for the series as it promotes what the spirit of racing should be all about whilst highlighting modern advancements in road and racing cars. Racing would be close and exciting whilst safe at the same time. A proven option."

Option B

John Jazzberg, Chief technical director of Rockets Racing Development
"The DMW may be a safe option, but it is a boring one! What is popular is seeing the average road car turned into a giant slaying monster, our Henry Rocket Special will lead to high octane edge of the seat racing designed for the daring driver. Whether it be road, dirt, sprint racing or endurance our car will entertain anywhere. Road car relevance? it has the body shell of £10k car with a supercar underneath, the kids will love it!"

Option C

Jim Johnson, CLUB MUSTANG
"No one wants to see a super expensive car hidden under cheap cough boxes! The car to really grab the attention is the Ace Mustang. The all American beauty if a head turner wherever it performs and more and more are being shipped off to Europe and Asia. The mustang promises a high adrenaline ride from start to finish and offers a real driver challenge, high power at effective cost, what more could you want?"

Option D

Dr Shinji Nattori, EEE-CARS European spokesman.
"Frankly, Mustangs are dinosaurs. The real future lies in electrical cars, the world can only rely on fossil fuels for so long. The Mazyota Psywave is more relevant for demonstrating road car advances and is sure to be a hit with the sponsors as green energy is where the money is. You may not see many Psywaves on the street right now and it is untested for racing, but in 5 years you will see this car everywhere and electric racing will be in the mainstream, your series spearheading the assault!

The 4 executives have made their pitches, it is now for the team owners to decide.

Option A: DMW A3
Option B: Henry Rocket Special
Option C: Ace Mustang
Option D: Mazyota Psywave Electric

Salamander wrote:I like this idea. I'd certainly be up for giving it a go.

AdrianSutil wrote:First time I've thought of a series but it more of a fantasy league so just wondering how much support there will be for it.

Basically, it's just a fantasy league for the second half of the season as a test-run and if it proves popular enough, will be done again in 2014. It's ruthlessly simple so anyone can understand:

THE TOTAL LAPS FANTASY LEAGUE!!

* Every member picks 3 or 4 drivers (haven't decided which amount yet) who they think will score the most points during the remainder of the season
* Each lap that one of your drivers complete is worth 1 point (so if you chose Hamilton and he completes 25 laps of Spa before he retires you score 25. If he does the whole race distance you score 44. If he finishes but two laps down he scores 42).
* Points from your 3/4 drivers are added up at the end of each race and that's your race total.
* Winner is decided at end of the season. consistency and reliability is the key.

So what do you all think? It's nothing to be taken seriously, just something else to do.