Rejects Of Gran Turismo

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 06 May 2012, 21:29

JeremyMcClean wrote:Just how much turbo is allowed? (I believe there are three stages or something like that.)

All in, balls out. As much as you can get.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 07 May 2012, 04:14

Klon wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Just how much turbo is allowed? (I believe there are three stages or something like that.)

All in, balls out. As much as you can get.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 13 May 2012, 19:01

Here is my video for this new scenario.

Put "as much as I could get" of turbo in the car. It's kinda hard to get traction when you have that much power onto the Sports tires.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 13 May 2012, 19:07

My video is here.

I honestly think Klon made it Sport tires only to watch us squirm. He likes us making mistakes under pressure because of his restrictions.

EDIT: WHAT?! EIGHT-HUNDRED HORSE-POWERS?!?!?!?! ARRG!

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 13 May 2012, 20:27

Priceless wrote:Here is my video for this new scenario.

I don't remember a song this awesome being in GT4...

For your information, the point system for the third season will be changed to the 1981-1984 F1 points system.

Results - "Golden Supra Warriors"
1.: Priceless - GT4 - Toyota DENSO SARD Supra GT (JGTC) '00 - 1'18.615
2.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra (JGTC) '03 - 1'23.222
3.: RealRacingRoots - GT5 - Toyota Castrol TOM'S Supra '97 - 1'24.551
4.: JeremyMcClean - GT4 - Toyota Woodone Tom's Supra (JGTC) - 1'28.317
5.: Klon - GTP - Toyota Castrol TOM'S SUPRA '00 - 1'30.965
Bonus Point: JeremyMcClean for willingly not using the turbo tuning despite being allowed to.

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: Priceless - 9 Points
2.: The Masked Lapwing - 6 Points
3.: RealRacingRoots - 4 Points
4.: JeremyMcClean - 4 Points
5.: Klon - 2 Points

André Pilette Gran Turismo 2 Trophy
- No entries -

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: Priceless - 9 Points
2.: The Masked Lapwing - 6 Points
3.: JeremyMcClean - 5 Points

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 9 Points

Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: RealRacingRoots - 9 Points

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Scenario 3-2: "Isn't It Tedious?"

Track (GT2): Test Course
Track (GT4): Test Course
Track (GTP): Test Course
Track (GT5): Indianapolis (oval)

Car To Use (GT2): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GT4): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GTP): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GT5): Any car with less than 100 BHP

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires

Other conditions: GT5 times will be multiplied by 2.5. No slipstreaming allowed.

Deadline: 22 May 2011, 19:15 CEST

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Once you think your time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail or post a video with your lap on a video portal (please take one that won't delete your video until a few months later) with the following data:

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 13 May 2012, 22:26

Klon wrote:
Bonus Point: JeremyMcClean for willingly not using the turbo tuning despite being allowed to.

I had no money...

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 13 May 2012, 23:46

JeremyMcClean wrote:
Klon wrote:
Bonus Point: JeremyMcClean for willingly not using the turbo tuning despite being allowed to.

I had no money...

Just do that one easy rally event that gets you the Toyota RSC Rally Raid car a lot. It's worth like 200k+. Easy dosh.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 14 May 2012, 00:19

RealRacingRoots wrote:WHAT?! EIGHT-HUNDRED HORSE-POWERS?!?!?!?! ARRG!

The car already had near 500 without the turbo... didn't think I took that much of an advantage of it though, due to the Sports tires (and having no traction, especially on corner exits). I'll unequip the turbo and do a lap to see how much I gained from it.

Klon wrote:Car To Use (GT2): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GT4): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GTP): Any car with less than 100 BHP
Car To Use (GT5): Any car with less than 100 BHP

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires

Other conditions: GT5 times will be multiplied by 2.5. No slipstreaming allowed.

The conditions are already set so I'm playing to those, no changes needed, but as far as I recall GT2's Test Course is shorter than GT4's (the straights are 1 km long in GT2 and 1.5 km long in GT4). I can't confirm since I don't have Test Course unlocked in GT2 here. Can anybody confirm that?

Klon wrote:I don't remember a song this awesome being in GT4...

Depends on the version, I think. I have the American version, and I guess you know the European version... soundtracks may be different from one version to another.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 14 May 2012, 07:13

Priceless wrote:The conditions are already set so I'm playing to those, no changes needed, but as far as I recall GT2's Test Course is shorter than GT4's (the straights are 1 km long in GT2 and 1.5 km long in GT4). I can't confirm since I don't have Test Course unlocked in GT2 here. Can anybody confirm that?

The Test Course is definitely much shorter in GT2 compared to GT4. I'll see if I can get the exact figure up.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 14 May 2012, 13:17

It would be nice to see how the times of two equal cars compare to know just how much I'd have to multiply GT2 times, if needed.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 May 2012, 21:58

RealRacingRoots wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:
Klon wrote:
Bonus Point: JeremyMcClean for willingly not using the turbo tuning despite being allowed to.

I had no money...

Just do that one easy rally event that gets you the Toyota RSC Rally Raid car a lot. It's worth like 200k+. Easy dosh.

I needed to do that four times, and I already did it a dozen times just to get the said car... and I was in a rush, thus explaining my slow time.

But thanks for the Bonus Point!

.......

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 May 2012, 22:10

Since I have been asked - these -100 BHP cars need to have said engine power at time of purchase, so Gran Turismo 5 (HWNSNBM, I hate that game) players may not downtune their cars.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 20 May 2012, 22:13

Klon wrote:Since I have been asked - these -100 BHP cars need to have said engine power at time of purchase, so Gran Turismo 5 (HWNSNBM, I hate that game) players may not downtune their cars.

Who would want to downtune a car, besides meeting regulations? :lol:

Seems kinda silly, doesn't it?

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 20 May 2012, 22:19

Well, this game is worth something - don't you have any honour? :shock:

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 20 May 2012, 22:20

Klon wrote:Since I have been asked - these -100 BHP cars need to have said engine power at time of purchase, so Gran Turismo 5 (HWNSNBM, I hate that game) players may not downtune their cars.

There goes using the X2011....

Post by **Nuppiz** » 20 May 2012, 22:28

Nuppiz wrote:
Priceless wrote:The conditions are already set so I'm playing to those, no changes needed, but as far as I recall GT2's Test Course is shorter than GT4's (the straights are 1 km long in GT2 and 1.5 km long in GT4). I can't confirm since I don't have Test Course unlocked in GT2 here. Can anybody confirm that?

The Test Course is definitely much shorter in GT2 compared to GT4. I'll see if I can get the exact figure up.

Well, as it turns out I had forgotten about this and only remembered it when this topic popped up again. So I thought that "oh well, I'll just pop GT2 in and see what the length of Test Course is in that". Turns out I've forgotten my PS1 memory card somewhere, and you have to get through all license tests to be able to drive it in arcade (I could still compare two identical cars in both games on the same tracks, but I wouldn't trust those results due to different driving physics and the inability to drive exactly the same in both attempts)...

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 27 May 2012, 04:49

Nuppiz wrote:
Nuppiz wrote:
Priceless wrote:The conditions are already set so I'm playing to those, no changes needed, but as far as I recall GT2's Test Course is shorter than GT4's (the straights are 1 km long in GT2 and 1.5 km long in GT4). I can't confirm since I don't have Test Course unlocked in GT2 here. Can anybody confirm that?

The Test Course is definitely much shorter in GT2 compared to GT4. I'll see if I can get the exact figure up.

Well, as it turns out I had forgotten about this and only remembered it when this topic popped up again. So I thought that "oh well, I'll just pop GT2 in and see what the length of Test Course is in that". Turns out I've forgotten my PS1 memory card somewhere, and you have to get through all license tests to be able to drive it in arcade (I could still compare two identical cars in both games on the same tracks, but I wouldn't trust those results due to different driving physics and the inability to drive exactly the same in both attempts)...

Another big difference between Test Course in GT2, and GT3/GT4 is the lane that is taken for fast laps on both tracks. I think the inside lane, hugging the bottom by the kerb is faster in GT2 while nearly riding the outside wall is fastest in GT3/GT4.

And I'm waiting for results. In the mean time, watch me drive a semi-floating Mercedes! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiNrElF-rQ8

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 01 Jun 2012, 09:55

Hey Klon, it's been a week. Do we get results yet? :lol:

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Jun 2012, 11:51

Boy, it was a hassle adjusting the times, I hope it was done remotely fair.

Results - "Isn't It Tedious?"
1.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - Peugeot 106 Rallye - 3'03.641*
2.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Honda S800 RSC Race Car '68 - 3'05.132
3.: RealRacingRoots - GT5 - Mercedes-Benz A 160 Avantgarde - 3'13.384*
4.: Pointrox - GT2 - Subaru Pleo RM '98 - 3'13.537**
5.: Priceless - GT4 - Volkswagen Lupo 1.4 '02 - 3'15.278
6.: JeremyMcClean - GT4 - Volkswagon Lupo 1.4 '02 - 3'16.943
Bonus Point: You get to choose since I have no idea. Voting is open until Sunday.
* Time multiplied by 2.3
** Time multiplied by 1.2

Gran Turismo World Championship
1.: The Masked Lapwing - 12 Points
2.: Priceless - 11 Points
3.: MinardiFan - 9 Points
4.: RealRacingRoots - 8 Points
5.: JeremyMcClean - 5 Points
6.: Pointrox - 3 Points
7.: Klon - 2 Points

André Pilette Gran Turismo 2 Trophy
1.: Pointrox - 9 Points

Eric Van De Poele Gran Turismo 4 Trophy
1.: The Masked Lapwing - 15 Points
2.: Priceless - 9 Points
3.: JeremyMcClean - 9 Points
4.: Priceless - 6 Points

Olivier Beretta Gran Turismo PSP Trophy
1.: Klon - 9 Points

Bruno Senna Gran Turismo 5 Trophy
1.: RealRacingRoots - 15 Points
2.: MinardiFan95 - 6 Points

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Scenario 3-3: "Speed Darwinism"

Track (GT2): Trial Mountain Reverse
Track (GT4): Trial Mountain Reverse
Track (GTP): Trial Mountain Reverse
Track (GT5): Trial Mountain Reverse

Car To Use (GT2): Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution III GSR '95 (J)
Car To Use (GT4): Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR Tommi Makkinen Edition ‘00
Car To Use (GTP): Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR TOMMI MAKINEN Edition '00 / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '03
Car To Use (GT5): Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VI GSR T.M. EDITION '00 / Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII GSR '03

Allowed Tuning (GT2): Racing Tires/Weight Reduction Stage 1
Allowed Tuning (GT4): Racing Tires/Oil Change
Allowed Tuning (GTP): Racing Tires
Allowed Tuning (GT5): Racing Tires/Oil Change

Other conditions: None.

Deadline: 19 June 2011, 15:00 CEST

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Once you think your time is good enough, please send me the following per e-mail or post a video with your lap on a video portal (please take one that won't delete your video until a few months later) with the following data:

User Name:
Car Used:
Tuning Applied:
Lap Time:
Game Used:

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 01 Jun 2012, 11:57

Klon wrote:Results - "Isn't It Tedious?"
1.: MinardiFan95 - GT5 - Peugeot 106 Rallye - 3'03.641*
2.: The Masked Lapwing - GT4 - Honda S800 RSC Race Car '68 - 3'05.132

DAMMIT!!!

Everytime I have a good idea someone does it better...

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 01 Jun 2012, 20:16

Bonus point should go to me for being so rejectful...

Also how am I going to get that car in GT4???

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 01 Jun 2012, 20:46

JeremyMcClean wrote:Also how am I going to get that car in GT4???

Buy it?

Post by **Nuppiz** » 01 Jun 2012, 20:51

JeremyMcClean wrote:Bonus point should go to me for being so rejectful...

Also how am I going to get that car in GT4???

It sometimes comes up in the Used Cars list.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 01 Jun 2012, 20:52

JeremyMcClean wrote:Bonus point should go to me for being so rejectful...

Also how am I going to get that car in GT4???

If I can find my damn guide book, I can tell you what game days this car is availabe to buy from the used car lot.

EDIT: Found it! The days it's available on are;

29 to 49, 71 to 77, 85 to 98, 183 to 196, 232 to 238, 246 to 252, 260 to 266, 337 to 343, 351 to 357, 372 to 406, 414 to 420, 435 to 441, 449 to 455, 540 to 553, 561 to 567, 575 to 581, 596 to 602, 638 to 644, 666 to 672, 694 to 700.

The game works on a 700 day cycle, so if you're past 700 days on your current game, just add +700 to the numbers above.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 02 Jun 2012, 00:53

kostas22 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Bonus point should go to me for being so rejectful...

Also how am I going to get that car in GT4???

If I can find my damn guide book, I can tell you what game days this car is availabe to buy from the used car lot.

EDIT: Found it! The days it's available on are;

29 to 49, 71 to 77, 85 to 98, 183 to 196, 232 to 238, 246 to 252, 260 to 266, 337 to 343, 351 to 357, 372 to 406, 414 to 420, 435 to 441, 449 to 455, 540 to 553, 561 to 567, 575 to 581, 596 to 602, 638 to 644, 666 to 672, 694 to 700.

The game works on a 700 day cycle, so if you're past 700 days on your current game, just add +700 to the numbers above.

There's a cycle for GT4 too?? Well thank you Kostas!!

Now, where to get a GT4 guide...

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 04 Jun 2012, 05:30

RRR Protests RoGT Results
RealRacingRoots, user in the Rejects of Gran Turismo series has lodged a protest stating that users racing in the Gran Turismo 4 division have an unfair advantage in the championship.

"The users in GT4 have a huge advantage with a Traction Control and Stability control system that eliminates all Oversteer, Understeer, and Wheelspin making doing fast laps easier than it is in GT2 and GT5. I found this advantage most evident in the Golden Supra Warriors and the Springtime for Heidfeld events where GT4 users were able to traverse each track with little issue. There must be some sort of time penalty for these users as they are using an unfair advantage." RRR quoted in saying in the press release.

Event organiser Klon was unavailable for comment on this new development. The current event in Season 3 is called Speed Darwinism.

No AIDS? No problem! ALL the AIDS? Well, I will wait for Klon to decide on the judgement.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 04 Jun 2012, 17:47

! ! ! C A Z Z O ! ! !

My GT2 gamesave is on my dead laptop. I have to start from zero again

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 04 Jun 2012, 19:13

Pointrox should get that bonus point, that Subaru is an unexpected choice.

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 07 Jun 2012, 13:12

RealRacingRoots wrote:
RRR Protests RoGT Results
RealRacingRoots, user in the Rejects of Gran Turismo series has lodged a protest stating that users racing in the Gran Turismo 4 division have an unfair advantage in the championship.

"The users in GT4 have a huge advantage with a Traction Control and Stability control system that eliminates all Oversteer, Understeer, and Wheelspin making doing fast laps easier than it is in GT2 and GT5. I found this advantage most evident in the Golden Supra Warriors and the Springtime for Heidfeld events where GT4 users were able to traverse each track with little issue. There must be some sort of time penalty for these users as they are using an unfair advantage." RRR quoted in saying in the press release.

Event organiser Klon was unavailable for comment on this new development. The current event in Season 3 is called Speed Darwinism.

No AIDS? No problem! ALL the AIDS? Well, I will wait for Klon to decide on the judgement.

In consideration for this, I will be running all rounds from this one on with all driving aids disabled for any car (I usually do it for cars with less than 100 HP because it's too much of a speed disadvantage for them) until we get an official statement.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 07 Jun 2012, 14:03

Alright, driving aids are completely ... BANNED! From the next event on though to have nobody forced to redo their effort. I think that is a fair solution. Anyone protesting against this?

Priceless · Post by **Priceless** » 07 Jun 2012, 17:37

Klon wrote:Alright, driving aids are completely ... BANNED! From the next event on though to have nobody forced to redo their effort. I think that is a fair solution. Anyone protesting against this?

Fair enough, by me.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jun 2012, 17:51

Do the GT4/GTP/GT5 Lancers all have 276hp? That wouldn't be entirely fair given the Evo III only has 256hp and Trial Mountain is a hilly circuit (therefore power more important than weight).

Shizuka · Post by **Shizuka** » 07 Jun 2012, 19:36

I think in that case a muffler tuning might help, that pushes the HP up to around... 270, if I remember correctly.

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 07 Jun 2012, 22:23

Klon wrote:Alright, driving aids are completely ... BANNED! From the next event on though to have nobody forced to redo their effort. I think that is a fair solution. Anyone protesting against this?

I use ABS, I don't know who doesn't. So does the ban ONLY apply to TC and ASM?

Otherwise, I'm okay with this.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jun 2012, 22:39

Ban ALL the driver aids!

RealRacingRoots · Post by **RealRacingRoots** » 07 Jun 2012, 22:43

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jun 2012, 22:56

GT2 has no driver aids by default. You have to purchase them all seperately for 50K a pop. Makes driving the Le Mans cars an absolute bitch in slow twisty tracks. Thankfully the Lancer Evo III doesn't have so much power, but as soon as you reach about 400hp, you spend more time steering in the wrong direction that the right just to negate all the oversteer...

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 07 Jun 2012, 23:04

Question, is there any aids in GT4 and how does one turn off the aids? (If there are any)

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 07 Jun 2012, 23:10

JeremyMcClean wrote:Question, is there any aids in GT4 and how does one turn off the aids? (If there are any)

Yes there are, all of them. I think you have to go into the main settings menu for the game to switch it off, the same menu area that you set-up graphics options like TV position etc.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 08 Jun 2012, 07:37

kostas22 wrote:
JeremyMcClean wrote:Question, is there any aids in GT4 and how does one turn off the aids? (If there are any)

Yes there are, all of them. I think you have to go into the main settings menu for the game to switch it off, the same menu area that you set-up graphics options like TV position etc.

In the car setup menu, you can set TCS and ASM to be 0, i.e. to have no effect whatsoever on the car.