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stupot94 wrote:I wonder what would have happened if Brundle got the nod in 93 over Damon Hill


Brits would have one World Champion less.

I reckon Brundle may well have been on a par with Hill in terms of ability. Could be interesting what he could have done, considering by then he had been teammates with Schumi and thus had a closer glimpse at his strengths and weaknesses.
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dr-baker wrote:I reckon Brundle may well have been on a par with Hill in terms of ability. Could be interesting what he could have done, considering by then he had been teammates with Schumi and thus had a closer glimpse at his strengths and weaknesses.


For some reason I cannot see him have the same mental strenght as Hill. In terms of pure driving, Hill is not really one of the all-time greats. It was how he coped with the loss of Senna and being forced to become a team leader instantly which made him and gave him shots at becoming world champion.
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stupot94 wrote:I wonder what would have happened if Brundle got the nod in 93 over Damon Hill


And Badoer over Schumacher after beating him in a comparison test.
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I was just browsing you tube, and I stumbled upon this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwbji4-nCXM

Why couldn't he do that all the time? And why can't he be a nicer chap while he's at it? :(
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Am I the only person who finds Paul Di Resta everso slightly sinister?
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fjackdaw wrote:Am I the only person who finds Paul Di Resta everso slightly sinister?


How so?
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I really want to dislike Vettel, but for some reason, I just can't.
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shinji wrote:I really want to dislike Vettel, but for some reason, I just can't.



Its a long story on how I became a fan of him. All my mates say why dont you support the British drivers? and I just say.
"Its a long story"

To be honest I support anyone who doesnt drive for McLaren or Ferrari
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shinji wrote:I really want to dislike Vettel, but for some reason, I just can't.


I find myself liking Vettel more and more all of the time.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
fjackdaw wrote:Am I the only person who finds Paul Di Resta everso slightly sinister?


How so?


I don't know, there's just something about his quietness I can't put my finger on. He seems like someone who could explode into violent fury at the drop of a hat.
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fjackdaw wrote:Am I the only person who finds Paul Di Resta everso slightly sinister?


They were interviewing Di Resta post-race yesterday and my mum walked in and asked "Is he a driver? He looks about 15!" :lol:
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redbulljack14 wrote:
shinji wrote:I really want to dislike Vettel, but for some reason, I just can't.


I find myself liking Vettel more and more all of the time.


I would not go that far in my case, but I still prefer him over Alonso, Hamilton and Button any day.
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I've seen steaks getting away from the grid faster than Mark Webber.
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Phoenix wrote:I've seen anvils getting away from the grid faster than Mark Webber.


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DanielPT wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
shinji wrote:I really want to dislike Vettel, but for some reason, I just can't.


I find myself liking Vettel more and more all of the time.


I would not go that far in my case, but I still prefer him over Alonso, Hamilton and Button any day.


I'll always prefer Button and Webber over him.
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Why are the underbody planks on the cars made of wood? I mean, if they made them from metal, then there wouldn't be a risk of it wearing or being damaged from an off or, say, not going through corners like Eau Rouge properly. We've seen in the past drivers given post race penalties and even disqualifications because of their planks wearing off in the races.
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Its important for planks to wear because it determines how close the car was to the circuit surface at any given moment. Metal just wouldn't wear.
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Peter wrote:Why are the underbody planks on the cars made of wood? I mean, if they made them from metal, then there wouldn't be a risk of it wearing or being damaged from an off or, say, not going through corners like Eau Rouge properly. We've seen in the past drivers given post race penalties and even disqualifications because of their planks wearing off in the races.


Well, if it's not wood or something that wears easily, then how can they check it for wear? Besides, drivers have been reinstated due to appeals after being disqualified for excessive wear - look at the 2000 Brazilian GP or 2001 US GP.
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I know the plank was originally made of wood, but I thought it was now made of a resin?
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Peter wrote:Why are the underbody planks on the cars made of wood? I mean, if they made them from metal, then there wouldn't be a risk of it wearing or being damaged from an off or, say, not going through corners like Eau Rouge properly. We've seen in the past drivers given post race penalties and even disqualifications because of their planks wearing off in the races.


Well, if it's not wood or something that wears easily, then how can they check it for wear? Besides, drivers have been reinstated due to appeals after being disqualified for excessive wear - look at the 2000 Brazilian GP or 2001 US GP.


Wasn't the intention of the plank only to regulate the car's ride height so as to reduce ground effect?
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Frentzen127 wrote:Its important for planks to wear because it determines how close the car was to the circuit surface at any given moment. Metal just wouldn't wear.


But we would bring back sparks. (Not the group with the weird keyboardist)
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Peter wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Peter wrote:Why are the underbody planks on the cars made of wood? I mean, if they made them from metal, then there wouldn't be a risk of it wearing or being damaged from an off or, say, not going through corners like Eau Rouge properly. We've seen in the past drivers given post race penalties and even disqualifications because of their planks wearing off in the races.


Well, if it's not wood or something that wears easily, then how can they check it for wear? Besides, drivers have been reinstated due to appeals after being disqualified for excessive wear - look at the 2000 Brazilian GP or 2001 US GP.


Wasn't the intention of the plank only to regulate the car's ride height so as to reduce ground effect?


Exactly. If the plank is worn, then the car is too low.
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stupot94 wrote:
Frentzen127 wrote:Its important for planks to wear because it determines how close the car was to the circuit surface at any given moment. Metal just wouldn't wear.


But we would bring back sparks. (Not the group with the weird keyboardist)
And I miss those in F1


There were a few during the Belgian GP, mostly off front wing endplates rubbing along the ground, I'm thinking Hamilton's McLaren during qualifying in particular.
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BlindCaveSalamander wrote:
Peter wrote:
BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Well, if it's not wood or something that wears easily, then how can they check it for wear? Besides, drivers have been reinstated due to appeals after being disqualified for excessive wear - look at the 2000 Brazilian GP or 2001 US GP.


Wasn't the intention of the plank only to regulate the car's ride height so as to reduce ground effect?


Exactly. If the plank is worn, then the car is too low.


But, metal won't wear, so the cars wouldn't be able to go any lower than that height to begin with.
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But, metal won't wear, so the cars wouldn't be able to go any lower than that height to begin with.



Metal does wear, but probably too slowly for what the FIA want to measure.
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Hey guys, I'm back! Did you miss me? ... No? :|
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Warren Hughes wrote:Hey guys, I'm back! Did you miss me? ... No? :|


Yes we missed you. We were slightly bored whilst you were away, and we still haven't solved the great mystery of what Deletraz was doing on that fateful day back in 1995.
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redbulljack14 wrote:
Warren Hughes wrote:Hey guys, I'm back! Did you miss me? ... No? :|


Yes we missed you. We were slightly bored whilst you were away, and we still haven't solved the great mystery of what Deletraz was doing on that fateful day back in 1995.


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DanielPT wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Warren Hughes wrote:Hey guys, I'm back! Did you miss me? ... No? :|


Yes we missed you. We were slightly bored whilst you were away, and we still haven't solved the great mystery of what Deletraz was doing on that fateful day back in 1995.


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I didn't know Phoenix had a racing team! Maybe that explains what Deletraz was doing, he was moving about as a result of all the brain damage he has sustained from the recurrent and inexplicable amount of flaming papayas falling on his head.
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DanielPT wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
Warren Hughes wrote:Hey guys, I'm back! Did you miss me? ... No? :|


Yes we missed you. We were slightly bored whilst you were away, and we still haven't solved the great mystery of what Deletraz was doing on that fateful day back in 1995.


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errm, trying not to sound cliche here but....
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Shadaza wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:Yes we missed you. We were slightly bored whilst you were away, and we still haven't solved the great mystery of what Deletraz was doing on that fateful day back in 1995.


Image


errm, trying not to sound cliche here but....
What is Deletraz Doingin this picture? ahh who am I kidding it probably dosn't matter what Deletraz is doing.


He's meditating. Clearly.
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Today, I've bought F1 Racing's latest issue. They have a small article in which they calculate the total time of all drivers in qualifying this year. Lewis Hamilton's time is exactly 6,666s off Vettel's aggregate time (which is the best aggregate time). Not very relevant, I know, but considering how Lewis Hamilton can be I thought it was pretty funny.
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Phoenix wrote:Today, I've bought F1 Racing's latest issue. They have a small article in which they calculate the total time of all drivers in qualifying this year. Lewis Hamilton's time is exactly 6,666s off Vettel's aggregate time (which is the best aggregate time). Not very relevant, I know, but considering how Lewis Hamilton can be I thought it was pretty funny.


Karthikeyan's was probably more than that after Melbourne.
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Phoenix wrote:Today, I've bought F1 Racing's latest issue. They have a small article in which they calculate the total time of all drivers in qualifying this year. Lewis Hamilton's time is exactly 6,666s off Vettel's aggregate time (which is the best aggregate time). Not very relevant, I know, but considering how Lewis Hamilton can be I thought it was pretty funny.

Hang on. Are they taking all the times in Q1, or the final qualifying times of each driver? If they're taking the final qualifying times, that could get very misleading - say if it's very sunny in Q1 in Japan, and then chucks it down in Q3 when the pole times are being set. That way the Virgins, Hispanias and FTMs all get their aggregate gap to the leaders hauled back. Or are they taking the fastest time over all three sessions? That way the anomaly of Red Bull, McLaren, Ferrari and occasionally others going out in Q1 on harder tyres when the backmarkers will be on softs is removed.
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If Pirelli and the GPDA get the tire rule changed and qualifying tires come back, those qualifying tires should be uber hard NASCAR tires.

Just saying. :mrgreen:
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Cynon wrote:If Pirelli and the GPDA get the tire rule changed and qualifying tires come back, those qualifying tires should be uber hard NASCAR tires.

Just saying. :mrgreen:


Are you saying that NASCAR tyres last 100 yards? :lol:
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The Top Gear episode with Vettel just premiered in the States, and that got me wondering:

Is it pronounced VEH-tel or vet-TEL?

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Rocks with Salt wrote:The Top Gear episode with Vettel just premiered in the States, and that got me wondering:

Is it pronounced VEH-tel or vet-TEL?

Is it bar-ri-KEL-lo or bar-ri-CHEL-lo?


Actually I think it is pronounced Feh-tl, but one of German based forumites can answer the question better than me.

It's bar-ri-KEL-lo.
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