A tribute to the heroic failures of Grand Prix racing
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Lotus wrote:Very happy about this result, the whole team did a brilliiant job and Harvey got the teams first podium of the season. Our planned mid season upgrade seems to have worked in the race at least.
Luca di Montezemolo wrote:Excellent. A great race from Rene. Now if only Gilles would go faster and we would be in a great position in the constructors. But a 4th is ok for now.
Rene Arnoux wrote:The car definitely fits my style!
Kieran Sutherland wrote:Well, finally...
Rupert Keegan wrote:Well, I sure am happy to finish the race, in last, but that doesn't matter, I took the chequered flag in front of the ladies, so they're all impressed, see? I'm very thrilled to be given a shot at taking my sponsorsh- my talent to Germany, and I hope Beppe doesn't mind spending a couple more weeks at the Penth- *sees Gabbiani leave the motorhome* Well I guess he does then.
pasta_maldonado wrote:AdrianSutil - will Bellof continue at Shadow, or will Rosberg be back in the car?
AdrianSutil wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:AdrianSutil - will Bellof continue at Shadow, or will Rosberg be back in the car?
Stefan Bellof has been brilliant so far so he remains once again. Also, if possible, could Bellof only have the turbo whilst Watson runs the normally aspirated engine? The engine failures are getting on my nerves...
pasta_maldonado wrote:AdrianSutil wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:AdrianSutil - will Bellof continue at Shadow, or will Rosberg be back in the car?
Stefan Bellof has been brilliant so far so he remains once again. Also, if possible, could Bellof only have the turbo whilst Watson runs the normally aspirated engine? The engine failures are getting on my nerves...
I think Ford has fixed the engine now, anyway. I cannot guarrantee that Watson will finish just because of the DFV
but it'll be interesting to see the difference.
Jacques Laffitte wrote:Oh, je suis absolument delighted aprés cette victoire. I had been disappointed after the Grand Prix de Grand Bretagne, when I failed to finish the Grand Prix, so to leave Hockenheim with a win is trés plaisant. To win on a fast circuit avec beaucoup de straights with our engine is encouraging aussi - il n'a pas the same power as les turbos.
Je suis happy to be second in the championship et j'espére que nous serons capables to remain competitif.
Edward Kevin wrote:Pretty delighted to get on the podium again, particularly when I hadn't really been in contention all weekend. It shows that we're gaining consistency, that even when we're nowhere special in qualifying - as is usually the case these days for us - we can gain places during the race, and end up right at the front. Well done to Jacques on his win, though I'm not sure how he got in front of me, after I started a fair way in front of him!
By the way, I'd just like to express my concern for Marc Surer after his crash at the start, I've obviously not been able to see it but from what I hear it was rather serious. It's always terrible to have drivers taken away from their cars in a bad state, and I think he was unconscious - on behalf of all the drivers I'd like to say that we hope Marc will be back on the grid as soon as possible.
Finally, while it is true that we've achieved a great result here at the fastest track of the season, I'd like to implore the team to look into getting a turbo engine next season. With Calum's pole yesterday it's evident that that's the way the sport's going, and I've heard through the grapevine that Talbot are weighing up the pros and cons of developing a turbo for us next season. Monsieur Ligier needs to get on the phone to them and twist their arm, because I think we could be left behind in 1980 without a turbo. I guess I'm being a bit presumptuous about my seat for next year though!
James Hunt wrote:I'm rather sorry to say this, but after that brakes failure, I can no longer bring myself to drive a car which is quickly turning into a deathtrap. We all saw what happened to Marc Surer earlier on. I have never been so frightened in my racing career, and having already achieved my goals in motorsport, is it really worth risking my life anymore? Therefore, I am announcing my retirement from this series with immediate effect. Good day and good night to you all.
Davey Clarke wrote:Hot damn what a day! My first score in this series and that toff is buggering off for good. I'm heading ma way up to the tavern to celebrate with some girls.
). He will be replaced by Bruno Giacomelli with immediate effect. James will start a career as a paddock analyst for the BBC from the next race onwards.Patrick Head wrote:For sure, a double retirement within the first ten laps is very disappointing, especially since the car had a lot of pace. However, we've drawn positives. The Honda engine is far more powerful than we first thought, and we're going to begin to run it on a regular basis on both cars from now on. We'll also conduct some more testing to improve reliability, not just for the new engine, but also for some key parts of the car (suspension and gearbox).
Phoenix wrote:Patrick Head wrote:For sure, a double retirement within the first ten laps is very disappointing, especially since the car had a lot of pace. However, we've drawn positives. The Honda engine is far more powerful than we first thought, and we're going to begin to run it on a regular basis on both cars from now on. We'll also conduct some more testing to improve reliability, not just for the new engine, but also for some key parts of the car (suspension and gearbox).
Wizzie wrote:Phoenix wrote:Patrick Head wrote:For sure, a double retirement within the first ten laps is very disappointing, especially since the car had a lot of pace. However, we've drawn positives. The Honda engine is far more powerful than we first thought, and we're going to begin to run it on a regular basis on both cars from now on. We'll also conduct some more testing to improve reliability, not just for the new engine, but also for some key parts of the car (suspension and gearbox).
And with that, you have just lost any hope of winning the constructor's championship
Harvey Jones wrote:Back with a bump after the podium at Silverstone, to get neither car to the finish is really disappointing, but the track took it's toll on most of the teams, so it's hardly surprising. No points again means we're slipping down the order, we really need to try and string together a few points finishes to get the team back on track otherwise things will only get worse.
Marshal Jenkins wrote:That's absolute bollocks those stories about me not using the clutch going down the box, the piece of scrap just gave up on me. I can drive F1 cars and you people better believe it. Rupert's top 10 finish though is bloody brilliant, he's totally justified my decision to put him in the car. Gabbiani was nowhere all weekend, it just proves why British lads get the job done over lazy useless foreigners. It's the highlight of our season so far, we're going out tonight to celebrate that one, and when I mean celebrate, I mean celebrate!
Marshal Jenkins wrote:That's absolute bollocks those stories about me not using the clutch going down the box, the piece of scrap just gave up on me. I can drive F1 cars and you people better believe it. Rupert's top 10 finish though is bloody brilliant, he's totally justified my decision to put him in the car. Gabbiani was nowhere all weekend, it just proves why British lads get the job done over lazy useless foreigners. It's the highlight of our season so far, we're going out tonight to celebrate that one, and when I mean celebrate, I mean celebrate!
A 10 year old Alasdair Lindsay watching TV wrote:That guy, he is an English idiot! I will show him! I will go to F1 and kick his stupid racist arse! You will see!!
Professor Sid Watkins wrote:As you may be aware, Marc Surer was injured earlier today in a horrifying crash. I regret to inform you that he is in intensive care and still unconscious. He is, however, breathing steadily, and if he makes it through the night, the chances of him surviving increase tenfold. We have determined that he has severe concussion, 4 broken ribs, a slipped disk, and a fractured left tibula. My thoughts are with him and his family at this time.
Phoenix wrote:Wizzie wrote:Patrick Head wrote:For sure, a double retirement within the first ten laps is very disappointing, especially since the car had a lot of pace. However, we've drawn positives. The Honda engine is far more powerful than we first thought, and we're going to begin to run it on a regular basis on both cars from now on. We'll also conduct some more testing to improve reliability, not just for the new engine, but also for some key parts of the car (suspension and gearbox).
And with that, you have just lost any hope of winning the constructor's championship
I thought our hopes were already on the crapper. At least running the Hondas for the rest of the season should mean that for 1980 they are decently reliable. And, well, I make sure the cars keep being fast considering Ferrari, Renault and Shadow are running turbos too.
Teddy Mayer wrote:We're happy with Gauthier getting points for us today and the car isn't that bad,but I would like to see why our engines conked out twice in the space 4 laps.
Wizzie wrote:
You're only 11 points behind Ligier in the constructors title which, especially in the context of the last race, is nothing. And even with the N/A Ford engine, you're more than a match for Shadow and you're right on the coattails of Ferrari anyway. If I were you, I'd have stuck with the Ford engine and THEN switched to the Hondas at the end of the year.
kostas22 wrote:Merzario are fed up of their Arrows chassis and want to be more ambitious. Therefore, we are looking to acquire some Lotus 80s.
Stefan Bellof:
"I'm delighted to finish in the points in only my third race. The car was brilliant all weekend and I have to say thank you to the team for giving me the opportunity to prove myself."
Shadow press release:
"Unfortunately, John will be out for one race so Keke will be back in the car to replace him."
Ladislav Sedlak wrote:we can say that a good race, but I was hoping for more.
Nuppiz wrote:Is the grid going to expand as Osella comes aboard in 1980? If so, I'd like to call dibs on them, running a single Williams FW06 with Thomas Nurmester.
Didn't Osella always produce their own chassis, though?
pasta_maldonado wrote:Nuppiz wrote:Is the grid going to expand as Osella comes aboard in 1980? If so, I'd like to call dibs on them, running a single Williams FW06 with Thomas Nurmester.
Didn't Osella always produce their own chassis, though?
Yes they did but currently there is no Osella chassis available in rFactor until 1983. (The 1982 mod, when finally finished, will have one.)
Nuppiz wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:Nuppiz wrote:Is the grid going to expand as Osella comes aboard in 1980? If so, I'd like to call dibs on them, running a single Williams FW06 with Thomas Nurmester.
Didn't Osella always produce their own chassis, though?
Yes they did but currently there is no Osella chassis available in rFactor until 1983. (The 1982 mod, when finally finished, will have one.)
That's alright then. I'll choose the engine a bit later when the 1979 season has advanced further.
pasta_maldonado wrote:You are allowed to enter two cars, but if you still want one that means there is room for another entrant. (Possibly more if Wolf pull out). You can run any engine you want from any manufacturer, except a supercharged engine. Also, the 30 car grid limit will stay for 1980. Would a rule that allows each team to enter a 3rd car at ONE event only appeal to team owners? (Championship points would count in the Driver's championship, but not the Constructors.) The entry could be used to race test drivers.
Nuppiz wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:You are allowed to enter two cars, but if you still want one that means there is room for another entrant. (Possibly more if Wolf pull out). You can run any engine you want from any manufacturer, except a supercharged engine. Also, the 30 car grid limit will stay for 1980. Would a rule that allows each team to enter a 3rd car at ONE event only appeal to team owners? (Championship points would count in the Driver's championship, but not the Constructors.) The entry could be used to race test drivers.
Well then, Osella will run a second car for promising Italian Piercarlo Ghinzani. American Eddie Cheever, our current F2 driver, will be our first test and reserve driver while we also keep an eye out for Teo Fabi. We would also prefer to have an Italian engine, so offers from Alfa Romeo, Ferrari and Lamborghini are welcome.
On the subject of third cars, we support the idea of running a third car at one event only to allow young drivers to gather experience, however we are unlikely to use this opportunity ourselves due to budget restraints.
) to find that sort of stuff out. pasta_maldonado wrote:Ghinzani is currently contracted to Rebaque and will be racing the next four rounds, so you can get an impression of his pace. Don't worry about that though as the contract season starts at the end of the year, so you might be able to snap him up. Klon owns Alfa, JeremyMcLean owns Ferrari who also supply RAM, and Lamborghini are supplying Merzario next year. I'm not saying you can't have engines, just giving a heads up, as you probably haven't trawled throgh all 13 pages of fascinating action (if I say so myself
And I was aware that all three major Italian engine manufacturers are already reserved, however I was hoping that one of them could give us customer engies (maybe last year's model, if nothing else).Nuppiz wrote:pasta_maldonado wrote:Ghinzani is currently contracted to Rebaque and will be racing the next four rounds, so you can get an impression of his pace. Don't worry about that though as the contract season starts at the end of the year, so you might be able to snap him up. Klon owns Alfa, JeremyMcLean owns Ferrari who also supply RAM, and Lamborghini are supplying Merzario next year. I'm not saying you can't have engines, just giving a heads up, as you probably haven't trawled throgh all 13 pages of fascinating action (if I say so myself
I had missed the bit where Ghinzani went to Rebaque (largely because I was away for a couple of days and there was a lot of new posts). Other than that I've followed this championship quite actively.
Glad you're enjoying the championship pasta_maldonado wrote:While I'm waiting for conformation on replacements, here is the list of chassis that will be available to customer teams next season.
Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01
Customer teams are currently RAM, Merzario, Rebaque and Jenkins. Shadow will become a customer team from next year, along with Osella, and Wolf if they decide to continue.