Grand Prix Rejects

Is it some kind of 1996 early tribute?

FantometteBR wrote:Is it some kind of 1996 early tribute?

Not intentionally. But it earned you two points.

Typical, a race of massive attrition, and neither of my cars make it to the end

Tyrrell will spend 350k in reliability and 250k in topspeed

A win is a win - but - with de Angelis running Patrese so close in an inferior car, he'd better start performing closer to GV.

2 double DNFs. That is not good at all. Especially since Pryce took himself out of an easy win.

Does Jabouille get a point for that?

Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If that means i can get your money, i'll be happy to take over your team But let's first see if someone new is interested.

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tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If that means i can get your money, i'll be happy to take over your team But let's first see if someone new is interested.

So your plan to win in Formula One is to buy every team until none exist except yours?

Stramala wrote:

This wrote:

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If that means i can get your money, i'll be happy to take over your team But let's first see if someone new is interested.

So your plan to win in Formula One is to buy every team until none exist except yours?

Hey, it's a bulletproof plan. As long as he has the cash and team owners willing to do it, that is

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tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If that means i can get your money, i'll be happy to take over your team But let's first see if someone new is interested.

Who do you think you are? Bernie Ecclestone?!

1. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari) 75 Laps
2. Elio de Angelis (Ligier-Ferrari) +4.945
3. Clay Regazzoni (Ensign-Alfa Romeo) +51.971
4. Tom Sneva (Penske-Cosworth) +1 Lap
5. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell-Cosworth) +1 Lap
6. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault) +11 Laps / Gearbox
Retired:
Mario Andretti (March-Ferrari) 64 Laps / Transmission
Carlos Reutemann (Williams-Cosworth) 63 Laps / Transmission
Ronnie Peterson (Shadow-Cosworth) 56 Laps / Clutch
Tom Pryce (McLaren-Cosworth) 50 Laps / Accident
Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari) 36 Laps / Clutch
Patrick Tambay (Penske-Cosworth) 35 Laps / Suspension
Rick Mears (Lotus-Renault) 31 Laps / Gearbox
Carlos Pace (Williams-Cosworth) 24 Laps / Suspension
Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell-Cosworth) 24 Laps / Accident
Jacques Laffite (Arrows-Cosworth) 23 Laps / Suspension
Bruno Giacomelli (Ensign-Alfa Romeo) 23 Laps / Accident
Gijs van Lennep (Ligier-Ferrari) 23 Laps / Transmission
Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows-Cosworth) 18 Laps / Accident
James Hunt (McLaren-Cosworth) 17 Laps / Engine
Jody Scheckter (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) 16 Laps / Engine
Keke Rosberg (Brabham-Alfa Romeo) 8 Laps / Accident
Niki Lauda (Lotus-Renault) 7 Laps / Suspension
Didier Pironi (Shadow-Cosworth) 3 Laps / Clutch

Fastest Lap: Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari): 1:28.525
ROTR: Tom Pryce (McLaren): Crashed out of the race while leading by almost 1 Minute

Another podium for Clay shows that the car can do the job. But on the other side, Bruno needs to shape up. He has shown that he can be faster than Clay at times, but he's also prone to crash or having some failure.

Not a good race for us, we have to upgrade the car in order to match other top teams...

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If Apollon isn't taken yet, I would be interested in a take over.
I'll keep Harald Ertl as a driver.

The Dutch Bear wrote:

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If Apollon isn't taken yet, I would be interested in a take over.
I'll keep Harald Ertl as a driver.

Apollon isn't taken yet, so you can have them.

pi314159 wrote:

The Dutch Bear wrote:

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If Apollon isn't taken yet, I would be interested in a take over.
I'll keep Harald Ertl as a driver.

Apollon isn't taken yet, so you can have them.

Nice! My budget will be $360.000 right?

The Dutch Bear wrote:Nice! My budget will be $360.000 right?

Yes. Apollon is one of the smallest teams.

pi314159 wrote:

The Dutch Bear wrote:Nice! My budget will be $360.000 right?

Yes. Apollon is one of the smallest teams.

Well, I quite like a challenge.

Stramala wrote:

This wrote:

tristan1117 wrote:Okay, as I have essentially stopped paying attention to this series at all, Apollon will be closing its doors, effective immediately. Anyone is free to hire Harald Ertl or take the team over.

If that means i can get your money, i'll be happy to take over your team But let's first see if someone new is interested.

So your plan to win in Formula One is to buy every team until none exist except yours?

Hey, if i don't try something, i will never succeed. And i could only merge Kojima with BRM because really nobody else seem to want BRM at the time. I know i will not get away with this twice, but, well, you never know, if you don't try.

SeedStriker wrote:Who do you think you are? Bernie Ecclestone?!

Well, i'm equally senile as him.

Apollon should be allowed to close up shop and end. They originally entered a single race which they failed to qualify and promptly closed up... We do have too many teams In the next few years we are going to have DNPQ lists larger then the entries...

SuperAguri wrote:Apollon should be allowed to close up shop and end. They originally entered a single race which they failed to qualify and promptly closed up... We do have too many teams In the next few years we are going to have DNPQ lists larger then the entries...

No, we won't have that large DNPQ lists. Kauhsen won't start as a new entry, since they're already a part of the Kojima team, and Alfa Romeo will only join if someone gives up his team. Otherwise, their entry will be delayed to 1980.

When is the deadline for announcing upgrades?

pycku wrote:When is the deadline for announcing upgrades?

Pre-Qualifying for the next race, which will not happen before Sunday evening.

then I'll spend the rest of our budget like that:

450 k on ground effect
150 k on top speed

50 k - testing our new upgrades on Brands Hatch (or anywhere in England if there are other teams involved).


Lets hope this works out as it seems this would be our last upgrade until midseason...

No more upgrades for Zolder. I'm going to run the Zolder race tomorrow.

Arrows ground effect upgrade:
0-300k: 100, success
300-450k: 58, success

Btw for Monaco race, I just noticed that Jabouille and Andretti both finished on lap 65, so i think it is fair that Andretti is classified 7th, as Jean-Pierre is classified in the points, although behind the 90% barrier.

1978 Belgian GP - pre-qualifying:

1. Alan Jones (March 781) 1:23.372
2. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20) +0.104
3. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +0.126
4. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Boro 002) +0.988
5. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +1.046
6. Patrick Nève (Kojima KE009B) +1.076
DNPQ:
7. Arturo Merzario (Merzario A1) +1.344
8. Henri Pescarolo (Martini MK23) +1.449
9. Teddy Pilette (Kojima KE009B) +1.659
10. Brett Lunger (Theodore TR01) +1.690
11. Eddie Cheever (Theodore TR01) +1.793
12. Bernard Darniche (Merzario A1) +1.925
13. Harald Ertl (Apollon Fly 2) +2.281

1978 Belgian GP - Qualifying:

1. Tom Pryce (McLaren M26B) 1:19.279
2. James Hunt (McLaren M26B) +0.839
3. Jacques Laffite (Arrows A1) +1.384
4. Clay Regazzoni (Ensign N177B) +1.734
5. Emerson Fittipaldi (Arrows A1) +1.784
6. Gilles Villeneuve (Ferrari 312T3) +1.846
7. Niki Lauda (Lotus 79) +2.063
8. Rick Mears (Lotus 79) +2.077
9. Riccardo Patrese (Ferrari 312T3) +2.091
10. Keke Rosberg (Brabham BT46) +2.207
11. Jody Scheckter (Brabham BT46) +2.285
12. Bruno Giacomelli (Ensign N177B) +2.613
13. Patrick Tambay (Penske PC6) +2.892
14. Elio de Angelis (Ligier JS9) +2.980
15. Tom Sneva (Penske PC6) +3.327
16. Gijs van Lennep (Ligier JS9) +3.459
17. Jean-Pierre Jabouille (Renault RS01B) +3.947
18. Carlos Pace (Williams FW06) +4.134
19. Jacky Ickx (Wolf WR5) +4.169
20. Rene Arnoux (Renault RS01B) +4.197
21. Carlos Reutemann (Williams FW06) +4.235
22. Chris Amon (Surtees TS20) +4.253
23. Jean-Pierre Jarier (Tyrrell 008) +4.268
24. Ronnie Peterson (Shadow DN9) +4.268
25. David Purley (Wolf WR5) +4.277
26. Patrick Depailler (Tyrrell 008) +4.280
27. Didier Pironi (Shadow DN9) +4.452
28. Mario Andretti (March 781) +4.727
DNQ:
29. Jochen Mass (ATS HS1) +4.845
30. Alan Jones (March 781) +5.154
31. Geoff Brabham (Fittipaldi F5A) +5.583
32. Hans Heyer (ATS HS1) +5.953
33. Patrick Nève (Kojima KE009B) +6.037
34. Piercarlo Ghinzani (Boro 002) +6.288

What the bloody hell is wrong with this chassis? We weren't ever this uncompetitive, even when we had the Matra lumps in 1976.

We're getting worryingly close to DNQ territory now

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Wow! After the result in Monaco Clay is on fire! Bruno, as always, just away from the top 10 on qualy. C'mon, guys! Another good result could be the key for the rest of the season.

Double DNF for Ferrari huh?

Stramala wrote:Double DNF for Ferrari huh?

Hey, at least the Ferrari B-team walked away with more points.

Speaking of Ferrari, is there any chance that you might dedicate more resources of your customer engine program to us rather than some of your other customers?

Wizzie wrote:Speaking of Ferrari, is there any chance that you might dedicate more resources of your customer engine program to us rather than some of your other customers?

FISA says no.

Stramala wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Speaking of Ferrari, is there any chance that you might dedicate more resources of your customer engine program to us rather than some of your other customers?

FISA says no.

Ah, fair enough then.

In other news, who do we have to sign on next year to keep Ferrari engines for free?

Would it be possible to give a couple of the '77 McLarens away to a lower team? I'm not looking for a sale or anything, but it's got to be more competitive than some of the lumps they're running at the back of the grid.

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Would it be possible to give a couple of the '77 McLarens away to a lower team? I'm not looking for a sale or anything, but it's got to be more competitive than some of the lumps they're running at the back of the grid.

I was trying to sell my LEC car at the beginning of the season, but then pi announced that non-constructor teams are not allowed to participate.