Grand Prix Rejects

Myrvold wrote:I only remember Murray Walker touching Nigels's head...

Ah yes, that infamous moment - I'm sure that if you look on the internet, that clip must be fairly widespread.

OK, I'll try this one out; in 1969, Matra introduced a particular car which was the first car to achieve a certain goal with one feature, whilst being one of the last cars to have a different technical feature. What car am I referring to, and what features did it have?

mario wrote:

Myrvold wrote:I only remember Murray Walker touching Nigels's head...

Ah yes, that infamous moment - I'm sure that if you look on the internet, that clip must be fairly widespread.

OK, I'll try this one out; in 1969, Matra introduced a particular car which was the first car to achieve a certain goal with one feature, whilst being one of the last cars to have a different technical feature. What car am I referring to, and what features did it have?

Like a lot of others they experimented with 4WD in 1969 & there was also a great deal of controversy over their continued use of structural fuel tanks, which they introduced in 1968, but which had already been banned on safety grounds for 1970.
These may have been 2 separate chassis, can't remember, but the main chassis designation that year was MS80...

mario wrote:

Myrvold wrote:I only remember Murray Walker touching Nigels's head...

Ah yes, that infamous moment - I'm sure that if you look on the internet, that clip must be fairly widespread.

OK, I'll try this one out; in 1969, Matra introduced a particular car which was the first car to achieve a certain goal with one feature, whilst being one of the last cars to have a different technical feature. What car am I referring to, and what features did it have?

Hmm my knowledge of that era isn't so great, but I'm going to take a stab anyways.

Was the car the first to have an airbox? It's only a guess and I might be a little too early in the development of that particular part, but I know the Lotus 72 had one and that was only a couple of years after...

The second feature, my guess at that point in time would be that the engine wasn't a stressed member of the chassis, whilst the general consensus was a shift towards making them a stressed member.

They're both probably miles wide of the mark!

tommykl wrote:

JeremyMcClean wrote:Teo Fabi.

Correct!

If I remember correctly, that was the 1987 Austrian Grand Prix... which was Fabi's second (and last) podium of his career. I tell you, Fabi has a tendency of dissappearing at will. How do you explain him placing a DNF 11 times out of 16 races in 1986?

Another nice question: if the 2010 system would have been used in all seasons, then which of the five female F1 drivers would have scored points and how many?

Maria Teresa de Filippis - 1pt
Lella Lombardi - 10pts

I presume.

Well, between eagleash and AndreaModa, you have roughly got the points that I was looking for.

The main car that Matra introduced that year was the MS80, but there was a four wheel version of the car known as the MS84, which was brought to a number of venues. The MS84 was the first Formula 1 car with four wheel drive capability to score points, with 6th place at the Canadian GP. Technically speaking, I will admit that this is a little debatable - although the MS84 was equipped with a Fergusson 4WD system, for the Canadian GP I believe that the front differential might have been removed, so the car was technically operating just as an overweight rear wheel drive vehicle. However, it has been recorded as the first four wheel car to score points, and so that is how I shall have to treat it, I suppose.

Equally, as I was a little vague in the original wording of my post (for which I apologise), I would accept the successful use of an aviation inspired structural fuel tank - although highly controversial, and eventually banned by the FIA, for the one year that Matra could exploit the loophole, Stewart was able to take several wins with the car in a season he dominated.

As for being one of the last to do something, Matra were also one of the last teams to use a spaceframe chassis, with Brabham's BT26A being one of the other cars that season to still use a spaceframe chassis.

Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

eagleash wrote:Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

Sounds like something James Hunt would say... about who though I don't know.

Wizzie wrote:

eagleash wrote:Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

Sounds like something James Hunt would say... about who though I don't know.

Sorry Daniel......nope......

eagleash wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

eagleash wrote:Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

Sounds like something James Hunt would say... about who though I don't know.

Sorry Daniel......nope......

I don't know who said it but I'm 100% sure the driver in question is Nigel Mansell

eagleash wrote:Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

That's easy. Peter Warr said that after Mansell left Lotus.

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:

eagleash wrote:Easy one.....(if you know the answer ).

Who said, of whom; "He'll never win a Grand Prix as long as I have a hole in my a**e"?

That's easy. Peter Warr said that after Mansell left Lotus.

Yep....Peter Warr who also passed away very recently.....

Here's a fairly easy one.

Alexander Wurz is 10th in a Formula 1 record category. What is the record in question and where did he set it?

Wizzie wrote:Here's a fairly easy one.

Alexander Wurz is 10th in a Formula 1 record category. What is the record in question and where did he set it?

Would that be the 10th youngest driver to set a fastest lap, at the '98 Argentine GP?

the Masked Lapwing wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Here's a fairly easy one.

Alexander Wurz is 10th in a Formula 1 record category. What is the record in question and where did he set it?

Would that be the 10th youngest driver to set a fastest lap, at the '98 Argentine GP?

Yeah. It was far too easy

Wizzie wrote:

the Masked Lapwing wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Here's a fairly easy one.

Alexander Wurz is 10th in a Formula 1 record category. What is the record in question and where did he set it?

Would that be the 10th youngest driver to set a fastest lap, at the '98 Argentine GP?

Yeah. It was far too easy

Well, I initially thought it was another category, but in that one he's just 20th.

What category I'm referring to?

Youngest driver to score a podium?

Sebastian Vettel, 2008 Italian GP.

I think it was an answer to Ferrim's question.

Which F1 Reject had the message "Austria is Beautiful" on his car?

tommykl wrote:Which F1 Reject had the message "Austria is Beautiful" on his car?

Roland Ratzenberger?

dr-baker wrote:

tommykl wrote:Which F1 Reject had the message "Austria is Beautiful" on his car?

Roland Ratzenberger?

Nope.

Christian Klien?

Lauda?

Ratzenberger, Klien and Lauda is not rejects!

Myrvold wrote:Ratzenberger, Klien and Lauda are not rejects!

Apologies for the slight grammar pedantry.

Anyway, I'm guessing that the driver in question is unlikely to come from the modern era (which would rule out Freisacher), so I'm going to look for some of the more obscure entrants. Are you thinking of Otto Stuppacher?

BlindCaveSalamander wrote:Youngest driver to score a podium?

No. Wurz is 20th in the "longest gaps between two entries" list: from Malaysia 2000 to San Marino 2005 (1645 days). I forgot his San Marino race for McLaren and thought he hadn't competed between 2000 and 2007, and so guessed he could be 10th in that ranking.

mario wrote:Are you thinking of Otto Stuppacher?

Correct! It might have been a bit too easy...

tommykl wrote:

mario wrote:Are you thinking of Otto Stuppacher?

Correct! It might have been a bit too easy...

I wouldn't say that it was easy - after working out which Austrians have been in Formula 1 (and there have been more than you would think), and eliminating the ones who couldn't be classified as rejects or had already been named, I decided to apply F1Rejects thinking and looked for the least successful driver of the lot.
Stuppacher fitted the bill nicely - a guy who once set a qualifying time 27 seconds behind James Hunt's pole time in the 1976 US Grand Prix sounded like the man you were looking for.

Here's a Murrayism: "******, whose chances were nil before, are absolutely zero now". Name the driver (I'm running out of trivia, someone please ask more questions?).

tommykl wrote:Here's a Murrayism: "******, whose chances were nil before, are absolutely zero now". Name the driver

Patrick Tambay's the solution

Another question: What was the unique thing about the podium finishers of the 2001 Australian Grand Prix?

Klon wrote:

tommykl wrote:Here's a Murrayism: "******, whose chances were nil before, are absolutely zero now". Name the driver

Patrick Tambay's the solution

Another question: What was the unique thing about the podium finishers of the 2001 Australian Grand Prix?

All were racing in 1994 and/or had some connection to Senna?

Cynon wrote:All were racing in 1994 and/or had some connection to Senna?

True, but not what I would desire as an answer, since that is not unique.

The podium finishers would be the eventual top three in the WDC rankings?

2001 Australian GP
1. Michael SCHUMACHER, Ferrari. 1:38:26.533
2. David COULTHARD, McLaren-Mercedes +1.717
3. Rubens BARRICHELLO, Ferrari. +33.491

2001 Final WDC Rankings
1. Michael SCHUMACHER, Ferrari. 123 points
2. David COULTHARD, McLaren-Mercedes. 65 points
3. Rubens BARRICHELLO, Ferrari. 56 points

JeremyMcClean wrote:The podium finishers would be the eventual top three in the WDC rankings?

2001 Australian GP
1. Michael SCHUMACHER, Ferrari. 1:38:26.533
2. David COULTHARD, McLaren-Mercedes +1.717
3. Rubens BARRICHELLO, Ferrari. +33.491

2001 Final WDC Rankings
1. Michael SCHUMACHER, Ferrari. 123 points
2. David COULTHARD, McLaren-Mercedes. 65 points
3. Rubens BARRICHELLO, Ferrari. 56 points

There we go!
And since we already have Michael Schumacher: in a French Grand Prix Michael recieved attention for willingly letting a lapped car take the lap back. Which driver did he let through and why?

Klon wrote:And since we already have Michael Schumacher: in a French Grand Prix Michael recieved attention for willingly letting a lapped car take the lap back. Which driver did he let through and why?

His teammate, so that he could pass someone who had retired and score a point?

The thing is, I can't find what year it was...

It was him letting Younger Brother Ralf past so he could finish on the lead lap with the posibility of getting into the points (which he did).... and the answer is Magny Cours 1997

JJMonty wrote:It was him letting Younger Brother Ralf past so he could finish on the lead lap with the posibility of getting into the points (which he did).... and the answer is Magny Cours 1997

Fine man, good answer.

The first race to start under the safety car was...?