Grand Prix Rejects

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pasta_maldonado wrote:While I'm waiting for conformation on replacements, here is the list of chassis that will be available to customer teams next season.

Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01

Customer teams are currently RAM, Merzario, Rebaque and Jenkins. Shadow will become a customer team from next year, along with Osella, and Wolf if they decide to continue.

RAM prefers continuing their partnership with Lotus and Ferrari. If this is already taken, they'll take the Arrows A2.

Do we have an option of using our own chassis if the new Penske design works well? If not, the new Renault looks to be our best bet.

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pasta_maldonado wrote:While I'm waiting for conformation on replacements, here is the list of chassis that will be available to customer teams next season.

Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01

Customer teams are currently RAM, Merzario, Rebaque and Jenkins. Shadow will become a customer team from next year, along with Osella, and Wolf if they decide to continue.

RAM prefers continuing their partnership with Lotus and Ferrari. If this is already taken, they'll take the Arrows A2.

That would be fine

tristan1117 wrote:Do we have an option of using our own chassis if the new Penske design works well? If not, the new Renault looks to be our best bet.

Well, the 'new Penske chassis' is just an updated HR79 ( the HR100 does not exist). Oh, and I'll probably add the Lotus 78 to that list.

Lotus plan to retain both drivers for 1980.

McLaren would like to keep Guilliame Gauthier for 1980,but may think about letting Mario Andretti go after the season.Derek Daly may join the team,but will be settled once the European GP is done.

McLaren also want Turbo Ford engines for next season.

WaffleCat wrote:McLaren would like to keep Guilliame Gauthier for 1980,but may think about letting Mario Andretti go after the season.Derek Daly may join the team,but will be settled once the European GP is done.

McLaren also want Turbo Ford engines for next season.

You'll have to negiotiate with AdrianSutil for those Another thing, it will be interesting how you decide to tell the McLaren take over by Ron Dennis...That's if it happens at all

Pierre Depault will stay with ATS/JLD as long as daddy continues to run the team and, for a rookie, he's done an alright job regardless. Stuck on the other hand has been nothing short of disappointing and will be released at the end of the year. We're open to negotiations for drivers looking at getting a full-time F1 gig for next year.

Lotus plan to run a Turbo engine.

For further clarification; Merzario will purchase a Lotus 78 and Lotus 80 chassis just before the end of 1979, using them in the last two races of the season and switching drivers each time. Whichever suits us better will remain, the other sold off, and a second of the retained chassis purchased.

Klon wrote:Alfa Romeo would be willing to sign a three-year deal with Osella, either for just the Alfa Romeo 1260 unit or for that engine and the turbo unit that is being developed for use in 1981 onwards. The former is without conditions, the latter would involve Osella giving one car to a driver of our choice from 1981 onwards.

Osella is happy to work in co-operation with Alfa Romeo, and we feel that a turbo engine will be essential to have any success in the 1980s. We have no problem in allowing you to decide our second driver in exchange for this deal.

1979 AUSTRIAN GRAND PRIX - OSTERREICHRING

Newsflash

It's all change at Rebaque, as the injured Marc Surer will be replaced by Padraig O'Connell for the rest of the season. Italian rookie Piercarlo Ghinzani will replace a frustrated Hector Rebaque for the rest of the European season.

The Merzario merry-go-round keeps on turning: Elio de Angelis is back in his seat, with Vittorio Brambilla back on the sidelines. For how long is unknown.

Changes at Shadow too, as Keke Rosberg is back in the car, replacing the injured John Watson for this round only.

James Hunt's retirement has gifted Wolf reserve driver Bruno Giacomelli a second stint in the car, the arrangement lasting for the rest of the season.

Williams will run the Honda turbo in both cars this weekend, effectively sacrificing the rest of this season for long term gain. All points gathered for the rest of the season will go to Williams-Honda, which is seperate from the previous Williams-Ford. Reliability issue will inevitably plague the team during the development team, but they will be bouyed by the fact it is the most powerful on the grid.

Harald Ertl will make another F1 appearance this weekend, this time with ATS. The Austrian will replace Hans-Joachim Stuck

FIA President Jean-Luc Knighte has announced the long term future of the Austrian Grand Prix is secure. "It's a great track"he said "and the drivers love the unique challenges it offers them. Also, spectators, including myself, find the races extremely exciting to watch, and we all know how in this day and age the spectators drive F1. personally I love the track"

QUALIFYING



For a second weekend in a row, Honda personnel were left beaming after the Saturday action, as they saw both Williams line up on the front row for tomorrow. Scheckter had the edge over his less experienced team-mate, whose time was half a second adrift of Scheckter. Reutemann was next fastest, albeit a further second behind McAllister. Jabouille lined up 4th, ahead of Arnoux, Kevin, Villeneuve, and Laffite, the Ligiers showing improved qualifying pace. The Shadows lined up 10th and 11th behind an improved Lauda, with Harvey Jones showing his talent hauling the Lotus up to 12th. The bottom 18 was very much Noah's Arks, with the Tyrrells 20th and 21st, ahead of both Alfas and both Wolfs. Brancatelli with a poor showing was an interloper in the pattern, while Rebaque showed a huge improvement, the improved chassis alowing rookie drivers to qualify 27th and 28th. de Angelis was able to qualify 29th on his return, and Pierre Depault qualified for only the second time this year. Gabbiani, Rossler, Fittipaldi, Ertl, Keegan, Ongais, Sedlak and Jenkins all failed to qualify.


RACE – 53 LAPS



Scheckter lead off the line, but Reutemann and both Ferraris made a great start to leapfrog McAllister into the Hella-licht chicane. Arnoux and Villeneuve touched, and drifted through the corner, but McAllister took too much of the extremely harsh kerbs, sending him spinning off on the crass. Niki Lauda also spun. McAllister rejoined down in 20th.

By the end of lap 1, Scheckter had a 1.6 second advantage over Reutemann, with Jabouille in 3rd and Laffite in 4th. Into the chicane, Arnoux passed Laffite, and Keke Rosberg passed Villeneuve for 6th. Scheckter was still pulling away, and while the Renaults were busy scrapping with Arnoux, Scheckter had created a 6 second advantage by lap 3.

Jabouille had a slow exit to the chicane, and on the through turn 2 and the run down to the Bosch Kurve , was passed by Laffite, Arnoux, Villeneuve, and Rosberg. Next time around into the Hella-Licht chicane, Sutherland, Piquet and Harvey Jones demonstrated their synchronised spinning, each driver taking too much of the deadly kerbs.

By lap 7, Scheckter lead by 10 seconds ahead of Reutemann, Laffite, and both Ferraris. Callum McAllister was stuck in the midfield, and had dropped to 22nd place! A lap later, however, and Scheckter was sent crawling back to the pits, as the gearbox failed. Reutemann now led, and Padraig O’Connell was up to 13th position in the Rebaque! By lap 11, however, Villeneuve and Laffite had passed Reutemann, and Laffite moved into the lead on lap 12 with a move down the inside of Villeneuve into the chicane. Ed Kevin had also got past Rosberg and Jabouille for 4th place.

Mario Andretti again made a rookie mistake – he took too much Hella Licht curb, spun out, and rejoined straight into the path of Takagi, ending both drivers’ day. Tyrrell’s day was over within the first 15 laps, as Lees had spun off at turn 3 a lap earlier.

Meanwhile, Villeneuve, Reutemann and Laffite were fighting over the lead, with neither of them being able to pull away while in the lead. A promising day for Elio de Angelis eneded in a taste of the Hella-Licht barriers on lap 22, the Italian put too much power down, punting him into the wall. He was fighting the Alfas and the Wolfs for 22nd position.

On lap 24, Jean-Pierre Jabouille had got past Ed Kevin, and had joined the leading 3 in the battle for the lead. Another disappointing day for McLaren ended with engine failure for Gauthier. The McLarens hadn’t ahd the pace to penetrate the top 10 all weekend, and were mired down in the midfield.

Lap 25, and Kevin had passed both Renaults, and set about Villeneuve. The Ligier man capitalised on a poor exit from the chicane for Villeneuve, and used the slipstream to pass the Ferrari into the Bosch Kurve, with Jean-Pierre Jabouille following him through. Ligier now had a 1-2, with Laffite having a 1.5 second advantage over the Irishman. Laffite was set to take the championship lead, as Arnoux was out of the race after being punted off by Lammers on lap 8.

The Ferrari threat came to an end on lap 30, as Villeneuve retired from the race with engine failure from 4th position. Jean-Pierre Jabouille had caught both Ligiers, and passed them, and was now in the lead on lap 31. Rosberg, having a great day to try and secure a seat at Shadow Cosworth, had now passed Reutemann, and was into 4th.

Padraig O’Connell was fighting for 11th place on his debut, but his day was ended wih an altercation with Prost on lap 33. The Briton spun, and Alain Prost collected him, sending both out of the race.

By lap 36, Kevin was back in the lead, ahead of both Renaults and Laffite. The Renaults now took turns to try and pass the Irishman; Reutemann attempted to do so on lap 39, but Kevin held on through the Hella Licht chicane. Lap 40 was Jabouilles turn, but this time, the Renault made it stick. Kevin was demoted to 3rd a lap later, as Laffite passed him on the run to the Bosch Kurve. Rebaque’s day was not over, as Ghinzani found himself in 10th place.

Harvey Jones was able to catch Rosberg in 5th position on lap 43, the bickering with Reutemann over 4th had slowed them down. Jones managed to pass both turbo cars in the space of two laps, again demonstrating his talent in comparison to Alan Jones, who after a series of spins was in 10th, out of 13 runners. Reutemann was in Harvey’s slipstream a lap later, and dived down the inside of the small kink at the Bosch Kurve, both cars touching wheels, but Jones held his ground to stay in front.

Bellof, having a disappointing day, made things worse by spinning on lap 47 at the Hella Licht chicane. Bellof was coming up to be lapped, while Laffite, and Kevin went through, Bellof rejoined the track straight in the path of Jabouille. Jabouille’s front left was torn off, along with Bellof’s sidepod.

With 4 laps to go, Laffite led Reutemann, Kevin and Rosberg, and at the start of lap 50, Kevin passed Reutemann, and set about catching Laffite, a second up the road. Kevin was right behind Laffite on lap 51, and took advantage of the slipstream to make a bold move down the inside of Laffite at the Bosch Kurve, going into the lead!

Reutemann had dropped back by 2 seconds at the start of the last lap, so it would almost certainly be a Ligier 1-2. Laffite was right on Kevin’s gearbox on the last lap, but outbraked himself into turn 2! Laffite tried to overcome the second deficit, but it was to no avail, Ed Kevin took his second victory in Formula One. Laffite was in second, and Reutemann in 3rd was 2 seconds adrift, with fourth-placed Rosberg a further second behind. Harvey Jones came home 5th to score more points, ahead of Nelson Piquet in 6th. Brancatelli came home 7th, and Piercarlo Ghinzani took 8th place to claim his and Rebaque’s first points of the year. Sutherland was the last man on the lead lap in 10th, a minute and 10 seconds down on the lead. Lauda and Bellof were a lap down in 11th and 12th respectively, while Alan Jones and Jabouille were classified in 13th and 14th.



Pictures


The new Williams livery


The new Rebaque/Penske ivery


The start


Hella-Licht melee (McAllister out of shot to the extreme left)


Synchronised spinning


How the bathplug did he get up there?


Scheckter retires


Takagi/Andretti out.


Laffite passes Arnoux, Jabouille swamped




Laffite, Reutemann, Villeneuve and Jabouille fighting for the lead.


Villeneuve retires


Gauthier retires


de Angelis in the barriers


Prost - O'Connell incident


Kevin leads Laffite o the second to last lap


Kevin wins


Driver's Championship-After 11 rounds

1: Jacques Laffite - 49
2: Rene Arnoux - 43
3: Ed Kevin - 42
4: Jody Scheckter - 34
5: Callum McAllister - 28
= Gilles Villeneuve - 26
7: Carlos Reutemann - 24
= Harvey Jones - 24
9 Jan Lammers - 21
= Nelson Piquet - 21
11: Alan Jones - 14
12: Jean-Pierre Jabouille - 13
= Hiroshi Takagi - 13
14: Gianfranco Brancatelli - 11
15: Mario Andretti - 8
16: James Hunt - 6
= Alain Prost - 6
= Guilliame Gauthier - 6
19: Stefan Bellof - 5
= Keke Rosberg - 5
21: Andrea de Cesaris - 4
= Geoff Lees - 4
= Derek Daly - 4
= Kieran Sutherland - 4
25: Niki Lauda - 3
= John Watson - 3
27: Roberto Horford - 2
28: Thomas Nurmester - 1
= Davey Clarke - 1
= Piercarlo Ghinzani - 1

Constructor's Championship-After 10 rounds

1: Ligier-Ford - 91
2: Ferrari - 69
3: Williams-Ford - 62
4: Renault - 37
5: Lotus-Ford - 34
6: Ram-Ferrari -27
7: Brabham-Ford - 23
8: McLaren-Ford - 19
9: Tyrrell-Ford - 18
10: Shadow-Ford - 13
11: Alfa Romeo - 8
= Arrows-Ford - 8
= Wolf-Ford - 8
14: RAM-Ford -5
15: Rebaque-Ford - 1

Rebaque scoring a point? Depault qualifying? Excuse me while I pick up what's left of my jaw from the floor.

That new livery was a nice touch

Patrick Head wrote:Sure, we need more testing to improve reliability. At least one of the Honda units was intact after the weekend, so we shall use it in testing to see how much can it last. We have complete faith that Honda will sort out the bugs, they're Japanese, it's not as if we were talking of cheap American stuff.

Wizzie wrote:Rebaque scoring a point? Depault qualifying? Excuse me while I pick up what's left of my jaw from the floor.

More to the point, Ligier will probably win the constructors championship.

eurobrun wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Rebaque scoring a point? Depault qualifying? Excuse me while I pick up what's left of my jaw from the floor.

More to the point, Ligier will probably win the constructors championship.

And to cap it all off, Keke wasn't shite for once.

Forgot this:


Reutemann and Harvey Jones bang wheels

Wizzie wrote:

eurobrun wrote:

Wizzie wrote:Rebaque scoring a point? Depault qualifying? Excuse me while I pick up what's left of my jaw from the floor.

More to the point, Ligier will probably win the constructors championship.

And to cap it all off, Keke wasn't shite for once.

Yes it's good to finally see him do well. Now I've got a tough decision to make

This is an impressive series I've been watching! I like it I always knew that RAM were capeable of a win so long as they had the correct drivers and cars!

Is there any opportunities for a new team to be created for the 1980 season? Or are registrations full up?

JJMonty wrote:This is an impressive series I've been watching! I like it I always knew that RAM were capeable of a win so long as they had the correct drivers and cars!

Is there any opportunities for a new team to be created for the 1980 season? Or are registrations full up?

Thank you, glad you like it! It all depends on whether Jenkins and Wolf continue in 1980, if either pull out, then there will be a slot free

I'll keep an eye out then as I know of a large German Manufactor that would be interested in testing out their new Turbo-Charged unit with the intentions of making it useable in many series of motorsport!

WaffleCat wrote:McLaren would like to keep Guilliame Gauthier for 1980,but may think about letting Mario Andretti go after the season.Derek Daly may join the team,but will be settled once the European GP is done.

McLaren also want Turbo Ford engines for next season.

Guillaume Gauthier would be happy to stay at McLaren. Meanwhile, at Renault...

Carlos Reutemann wrote:Another podium, that wasn't so bad! And how did your day go, Jean-Pierre?

Jean-Pierre Jabouille wrote:

Osella's second driver will be Eddie Cheever, while Teo Fabi will be our hope for the future and is signed as a test driver.

New Merzario Livery on the Lotus 78: (Funny gray patches are from a dodgy shader)





The Lotus 78 might not be available next year after all. I'm struggling to intergrete the model into the F1 1979 mod. At the moment it refuses to show up, and I'll work on making it show up.

pasta_maldonado wrote:

JJMonty wrote:This is an impressive series I've been watching! I like it I always knew that RAM were capeable of a win so long as they had the correct drivers and cars!

Is there any opportunities for a new team to be created for the 1980 season? Or are registrations full up?

Thank you, glad you like it! It all depends on whether Jenkins and Wolf continue in 1980, if either pull out, then there will be a slot free

If there it comes to a free spot, I might claim Toleman if 1981 comes so and this board is still alive

pasta_maldonado wrote:New Merzario Livery on the Lotus 78: (Funny gray patches are from a dodgy shader)





The Lotus 78 might not be available next year after all. I'm struggling to intergrete the model into the F1 1979 mod. At the moment it refuses to show up, and I'll work on making it show up.

Yeah

Although, we'll still have our mediocre DFVs for the rest of 1979, with a new engine contract starting for 1980.

JJMonty wrote:I'll keep an eye out then as I know of a large German Manufactor that would be interested in testing out their new Turbo-Charged unit with the intentions of making it useable in many series of motorsport!

If it's Porsche, you're gonna have to try again as JLD is effectively Porsche's open wheeler team.

I wonder how Merzario plan to fit the Lamborghinis into a car that was designed to accomodate a DFV...

Phoenix wrote:I wonder how Merzario plan to fit the Lamborghinis into a car that was designed to accomodate a DFV...

Using the world's largest shoe-horn.

Bruno Giacomelli wrote:Eh, gearstick come off in hand.

Davey Clarke wrote:Guys, this is ridiculous! WHY haven't you fixed the bloody engines!

James Hunt wrote:Rebaque scoring a point? I must say, that is unexpected. Hats off around the park to the. And Wolf continue their steady decline with that deathtrap piece of shite car with both...

BBC secretary wrote:James!

James Hunt wrote:Why yes Miriam?

Miriam the secretary wrote:No swearing on air!

James Hunt wrote:I was not informed of this development in the slightest.

Miriam wrote:Well if you actually taken the time to READ the small print of your contract, instead of downing several ciders and attempting to shag two of the dinnerladies, then you probably would have know!

James Hunt wrote:Alright, alright. Jeez. I apologise. Can you please get off my case? Thank you! Now, before I was so rudely interrupted, Wolf are declining fast with continued reliability issues because the bathplugging owners haven't a bathplugging clue how to run an F1 team.

And the rest they say, is history.

Wizzie wrote:

JJMonty wrote:I'll keep an eye out then as I know of a large German Manufactor that would be interested in testing out their new Turbo-Charged unit with the intentions of making it useable in many series of motorsport!

If it's Porsche, you're gonna have to try again as JLD is effectively Porsche's open wheeler team.

Don't worry, it ain't!

@Pasta: Do you have any templates to design the skins? If so, would you mind sending them myway so I could have a shot at creating one please?

JJMonty wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

JJMonty wrote:I'll keep an eye out then as I know of a large German Manufactor that would be interested in testing out their new Turbo-Charged unit with the intentions of making it useable in many series of motorsport!

If it's Porsche, you're gonna have to try again as JLD is effectively Porsche's open wheeler team.

Don't worry, it ain't!

@Pasta: Do you have any templates to design the skins? If so, would you mind sending them myway so I could have a shot at creating one please?

I'm afraid I don't, sorry! The mod being used doesn't have templates, you have to paint directly off of the original skin. Your team will a customer team, so for your entry to be accepted, you first have to choose one of the following chassis:

Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01

So I can send you the original livery to paint on.

And also can you name your engine supplier Your drivers can be real or fictional.

One existing team might have to be shut down, unless the team owners agree to raise the maximum amount of entries to 42 (which will see grid sizes rise to 32 cars as well.)

I'm all about allowing more cars into the grid

It looks like Fittipaldi will be shut down at the end of the year. Wizzie, can you ask Lappy if he still wants Brabham, otherwise the team will go up for sale.

pasta_maldonado wrote:It looks like Fittipaldi will be shut down at the end of the year. Wizzie, can you ask Lappy if he still wants Brabham, otherwise the team will go up for sale.

fair enough, apologies for not following this properly.

pasta_maldonado wrote:It looks like Fittipaldi will be shut down at the end of the year. Wizzie, can you ask Lappy if he still wants Brabham, otherwise the team will go up for sale.

Oh crap, I forgot I owned a team here
I intend on keeping Brabham, I'll probably sack Lauda but keep Piquet. I'll worry about a second driver when I catch up a bit

pasta_maldonado wrote:I'm afraid I don't, sorry! The mod being used doesn't have templates, you have to paint directly off of the original skin. Your team will a customer team, so for your entry to be accepted, you first have to choose one of the following chassis:

Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01

So I can send you the original livery to paint on.

And also can you name your engine supplier Your drivers can be real or fictional.

This is rFactor yeah? If so, the GP79 skins are a real bugger to try and work with! However at the moment it is the Brabham BT48 I am interested in - would you mind sending me your file just so I can see if we are working on the same file?

Engine Supplier & drivers: Can I keep that on hold for now just to see how the story develops please?

the Masked Lapwing wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:It looks like Fittipaldi will be shut down at the end of the year. Wizzie, can you ask Lappy if he still wants Brabham, otherwise the team will go up for sale.

Oh crap, I forgot I owned a team here
I intend on keeping Brabham, I'll probably sack Lauda but keep Piquet. I'll worry about a second driver when I catch up a bit

Quick update: Piquet's 10th in the WDC (Best finish:3rd, Belgium, now has 21 points), but Lauda's 25th (Best finish:6th, Brazil, 3points, no points since)

1979 isn't over yet, I take it you mean Lauda's sacked at the end of the year, or now?

JJMonty wrote:

pasta_maldonado wrote:I'm afraid I don't, sorry! The mod being used doesn't have templates, you have to paint directly off of the original skin. Your team will a customer team, so for your entry to be accepted, you first have to choose one of the following chassis:

Brabham BT48
Lotus 80
Williams FW06
Arrows A2
Arrows A1
Wolf WR7
Fittipaldi F5
McLaren M28
ATS D3
Renault RS01

So I can send you the original livery to paint on.

And also can you name your engine supplier Your drivers can be real or fictional.

This is rFactor yeah? If so, the GP79 skins are a real bugger to try and work with! However at the moment it is the Brabham BT48 I am interested in - would you mind sending me your file just so I can see if we are working on the same file?

Engine Supplier & drivers: Can I keep that on hold for now just to see how the story develops please?

Yeah, sure, after all 1979's not over yet And here's the original file for the BT48: