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Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 01:56
by go_Rubens
That's actually a good attempt. I had the problem once of not being patient and not curving the lines more to make a track more realistic, as there are a few very sharp corners, but other than that the track looks awesome! Build it now!
Now for some more randomness:
Oranjestad, Aruba
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157891Jacarepagua, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157905Portrero de los Funes, Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157909Dunsfold Airfield, Surrey, Great Britain (aka Top Gear Test Track)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157923Willow Springs Raceway
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157928The "I don't know, I looked up 'Ascari' and found a seemingly dead and useless racetrack in the weeds, so I decided to make a new one using some existing pavement!" Track
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157931The "I guess I'll look up 'Nuvolari' and came upon Rome's historical area, where that street track in GT5 was" Track
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6157936
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 05:09
by nome66
that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 13:21
by go_Rubens
nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.
I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 15 Dec 2013, 16:26
by nome66
just adding helpful criticism
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 18:23
by watka
go_Rubens wrote:nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.
I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.
Found it:
http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... a2003.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lrqSWJWSk
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 16 Dec 2013, 21:08
by go_Rubens
watka wrote:go_Rubens wrote:nome66 wrote:that rome circuit looks great!
also for that 'pegua track to work, the eastern part of the circuit pictured would have to still exist. unfortunately, that satellite shot is outdated by a few years, and what currently sits there now is the Olympic Venue for 2016.
I just had to do a redesign when the shot was a few years outdated anyway. I was bored, especially when you look at my descriptions of the last two, just looking up names of Italian legends. Oh, anyone who knows of the circuit I found after looking up Ascari, I'd like to know some mire about it, if any can be found. Thank you.
Found it:
http://theracingline.net/racingcircuits ... a2003.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61lrqSWJWSk
Thanks man! Some more info I may store into my brain.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 19 Dec 2013, 17:34
by Rocks with Salt
Whenever I get bored at my job and don't have any customers to take care of, I doodle in my notepad. Recently, I've been drawing racetracks for some reason. The more "intricate" the detail, the more time I had to waste. The blue is the runoff area.
Top left: My attempt at a "fast" circuit with flowing corners. And an arena section. Looking back, I imagine the Turn 10-11-12 complex would be a real pain for passing. And it looks like I put the grandstands on top of the garages. Can that actually happen?
Top right: First track I drew. I literally drew the front straight, closed my eyes, and tried to draw a track. I opened my eyes, looked at it, threw it away and started over. No logic went into this one; it was just "well what if I put a hairpin
here and followed it up with a chicane! Ooh I'm playing with fire here!" Once again, the third sector looks pretty poor, what with those never-ending curves and all. I was at least hoping the first sector would be nice and fast. I'm not sure it would end up like that, though.
Bottom left: This one started with just the Indianapolis corner onto the front straight and the chicane before it. This is what I imagine Road Atlanta would look like if it were squished to look like a microscope. Actually, I like how this turned out. I think the esses before the hairpin are cool, and I like the Indy turn followed by a long straightaway and then another tight hairpin. With this one, however, I forgot to make room for the garages again. Oops.
Bottom right: My most recent one. The only thing I had in mind was that the first two and the last two corners would be chicanes so that drivers could pull straight into the pits. A fun little gimmick. Also my goal was to draw a track that
didn't have fast sweeping turns and would require more downforce. A good go-karting track. Something Tilke might draw. I ended up drawing Catalunya with a tumor. I don't even.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 19 Dec 2013, 18:24
by Nessafox
top right reminds me of imola, and bottom left is just a copy of texas, really
but these would defenitely be good tracks.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 22:38
by wmetcalf68
I just made a track in Dublin, Ireland. I think it actually turned out pretty good!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6162653
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 23 Dec 2013, 23:58
by watka
Nice enough location and layout, good work!
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 02:00
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 04:01
by Rocks with Salt
Another day, another track:
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 24 Dec 2013, 04:35
by go_Rubens
I like that circuit that you've posted there Rocks With Salt. It has a nice variety of corners and looks decent for racing.
Nice circuit there. It has the normal features of a street track with a little extra added to it. Good work.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 05:22
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 12:25
by watka
Not entirely pointless in my opinion, you've created another overtaking spot at the end of the Boulevard des Moulins.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 13:29
by pi314159
watka wrote:Not entirely pointless in my opinion, you've created another overtaking spot at the end of the Boulevard des Moulins.
I think the straight at the Boulevard de Moulins is a bit short, but moving the harbour chicane backwards improves an overtaking spot after the exit of the tunnel. Also the left hander where Rascasse was should be spectacular. But why did you narrow the first part of the swimming pool chicane? This fast chicane is one of my favourite parts of the circuit and I see no need for another slow chicane.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 30 Dec 2013, 17:15
by UncreativeUsername37
pi314159 wrote:But why did you narrow the first part of the swimming pool chicane? This fast chicane is one of my favourite parts of the circuit and I see no need for another slow chicane.
I didn't mean to edit it, I tried to follow the original track since the normal road didn't look quite right and failed horribly. Pretend it's the normal chicane.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 31 Dec 2013, 22:04
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 01 Jan 2014, 16:49
by Rocks with Salt
Me again! I've been working more hours since I'm on winter break for another two weeks, which gives me more time to goof off and draw more tracks!
First one: completely forgettable. I didn't even bother drawing the inner runoff areas for this one.
The second one, however... I love it. This is by far my favorite so far. Obviously I took Interlagos as inspiration, but I started using the two long straights a la Korea and went from there. I also like it because, although there is no way I can draw it, there are elevation changes! Hence the lack of runoff areas around the track; armco barriers as far as the eye can see! Choosing the clockwise configuration, the circuit noticeably descends into what I call "The Pit" from from the first hairpin, which I liken to Ramsey Hairpin on the Isle of Man TT circuit, only descending instead of ascending. It is called The Pit because behind the armco barriers are steep embankments several meters high where the outer portions of the circuit sit. This allows the fans in the grandstands to see almost the entire track before them, especially those in the start/finish stands! Anyway, rounding Delaware corner the descent into The Pit continues until we reach The Boot complex, which is the lowest point on the circuit. The track then begins to noticeably gain elevation as drivers go through the left-right-right complex before reaching the Spoon curve onto the longest straightaway. The Spoon curve is just below the front straightaway in terms of elevation, and drivers must get this corner right or else they'll lose massively on the long, rev-limiting straight. From there, drivers round the A1 and A2 corners (There's more runoff area than what I originally drew, trust me) onto the second straightaway before braking into the right-left complex and finally accelerating through the sweeping right-hander onto the start/finish straight, which is the highest point on the circuit.
I can't help but feel really proud of this one! What do you guys think?
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 01 Jan 2014, 18:49
by go_Rubens
I was expecting that track to be as smooth as Hülk's driving.
Rocks with Salt, I suggest the second track to be built NOW, in a place that cares about motorsports
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 16:36
by Benetton
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6171479Finnish GP just outside of Helsinki and close to former circuit at Keimola.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 17:25
by go_Rubens
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 05 Jan 2014, 17:36
by dr-baker
That's very close to where I went on 2 Christian Union weekends away, less than a mile from where my parents got married, and less than 2 miles from where my grandparents have lived for most of their married life (and thus where I have visited every Christmas ever).
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 06:09
by Benetton
Oakland, California
Oakland Athletics (an MLB team) lease in their old stadium is about to come to an end; the team will move to San Jose. The old stadium will thus be demolished and replaced by a Racing Paddock and the track would be...
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6175450
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 10 Jan 2014, 23:55
by go_Rubens
Benetton wrote:Oakland, California
Oakland Athletics (an MLB team) lease in their old stadium is about to come to an end; the team will move to San Jose. The old stadium will thus be demolished and replaced by a Racing Paddock and the track would be...
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6175450
That's a good layout in a well-thoguht out area now that the stadium isn't going to be used, but I don't like Oakland for a street race due to the high crime rate in the city.
For my next (slightly bored) montage:
I looked up "Fangio," and found a decent gravel road outside Mendoza, Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176196Goodwood Racecourse
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176199Brooklands
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176203Woking
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176208I looked up "Senna," and found an island off the coast of Norway
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176211I look up "International Motorsports Hall of Fame," and find Talladega Superspeedway's road course needing a spice-up
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176222Pensacola, Florida
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176227Long Beach, home of the next Pacific GP
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176232Newark Liberty International Airport
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=617623624 Heures du Mans (my way)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6176189
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 12 Jan 2014, 17:40
by Benetton
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 13 Jan 2014, 22:42
by go_Rubens
I very much like that design. And it's good considering I had no good ideas for a track in Helsinki or near it unless I used the deceased Keimola Motordrome outside Vantaa.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 20:24
by Benetton
How the A1-Ring/Red Bull Ring should've been!
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6193063
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 28 Jan 2014, 23:31
by go_Rubens
That's a very nice layout there Benetton. It might not have as much flow to it, but it still has the characteristics I like to see in a race track - overtaking opportunities.
More tracks from me coming soon. Creating a completely random pack of them.
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 03 Feb 2014, 15:55
by go_Rubens
SUPER MONTAGEWell, couldn't resist
Ocoee Whitewater Center
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188686Penrith Lakes/Penrith Whitewater Stadium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188690This airport makes a return to my Track Montage series
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188696My favorite place to canoe, when there's water of course
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188702Another favorite canoeing spot of mine
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188704US National Whitewater Center
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188706McHenry, Maryland, hosting the Canoe Slalom World Championships this September (Hillclimb)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188709Porto, Portugal
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188715"Frick this place"
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6188720One of the 3 tracks I did this morning to choose for the Track Design Contest until I realized the elevation changes were quite unrealistic
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197743Another one of the 3 tracks I did this morning for the Track Design Contest that didn't quite fit the location I was after after 20 minutes of thinking
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197743TRUTH OR CONSEQUENCEShttp://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197772I looked up "McLaren," amd found a nice piece of land somewhere in the southern US
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197777I looked up "Ferrari," and found an island in the Rio Uraguay, on the border of Uraguay and Argentina
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197779My hometown comes back in my Track Montage series
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197815Another place near my optimal area of living the canoeing life
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197828Alternative to Lime Rock Park, at one of my least favorite places to canoe
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6197833
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 05 Feb 2014, 09:00
by Benetton
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 09 Feb 2014, 01:44
by watka
That could be like a Montjuich Park for Mexico City!
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 13 Feb 2014, 19:17
by go_Rubens
Feel free to bash some of these ones coming up. I went full berserk on some, and modest (for my standards) on others.
All in all, I have another 36 or so tracks for you people at this very moment.
Somewhere in Pennsylvania, with a bit of elevation
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202146Somewhere else in Pennsylvania
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202160Near Washington DC
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202180Out near Denver, Colorado
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202188Wausau, Wisconsin
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202196Bristol, Tennessee
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202210Shasta County, California
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202246Alkali Flat, Oregon
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202266Canal do Cascalino, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202283How to Incorporate the old Fuji Banking by go_Rubens
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202500My Alternative Spa
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202506Somewhere near Bathurst, NSW
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202508Melbourne, Victoria
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202512How to Make a Pennsylvanian Road Course Longer than the Targa Florio: Volume 1 by go_Rubens
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6202519Success
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203142Failure
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203151Go north, and you find Enoch
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203157Frijns
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203163Bird
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203169Plane
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203183Valenzuela City, Phillippines
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203201Porsche
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203212Sprimont, Belgium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203223Hasselt, Belgium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203225I forgot what I looked up to get here
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6203236Paris, France
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206125Sydney Olympic Park
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206132London Olympic Park
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206146The "Do Better in Beijing than Superleague Formula Did" Track (Yes, that's a whitewater center there)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206152Hellinikon, Athens, Greece
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206157A revised Baltimore GP
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206160An interpretation of what roads F1 should use in Sochi
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206163Marina Island near Vancouver
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206169Bald Eagle
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206174How to Make a Pennsylvanian Road Course Longer than the Targa Florio: Volume 2 by go_Rubens
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206195Enochville, North Carolina (aka NASCAR land)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206207
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 13 Feb 2014, 23:41
by Nessafox
Nice that you tried my city, but the streets in the center are way too small, thats why i avoided them when i tried.
Anyway, tried my hands on a new track in Genk, which involves some nice scenery of local forests, industrial heritage sites (a coal mine) it's ridiculously long, and it features some dangerous corners where i've seen many cars end up in the woods, but it's a nice environment.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206469 Port of Antwerp tilkedrome, but the city itself would be happy with that location, actually.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206472Herstappe: Because a city of 85 citizens is commercially very interesting for Formula 1. The thing doesn't have more roads than this, so there's not much of alternative versions possible.
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6206476
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 16 Feb 2014, 18:33
by go_Rubens
I haven't done the feedback job in quite a while, so I've decided to go back to it.
Skopje is awesome. Although the curvy bits in the first kilometer I'm not too sure of. 8 out of 10.
Malta is good with complexity and would probably be fun to drive, but it seems as if there are no overtaking opportunities. 6 out of 10.
Haifa. I like the layout, but the chicanes look very dodgy though. 7 out of 10.
Steep looks like a track that came out of Gran Turismo 5's Course Maker. 5 out of 10.
I like the layout of the Park there. Just needs a little bit extra. 8 out of 10.
Ingolstadt is a fair 10 out of 10. Just an awesome street circuit layout, not to mention it has street circuit characteristics that aren't street circuit characteristics.
Love Nuns' Island there. 9.5 out of 10. I don't know, I felt that it needed maybe another good curve or 2 but it is a great layout nonetheless.
St. Helens island would not be a good replacement for Gilles Villeneuve across the St. Lawrance. 2 out of 10. Don't like the sharp turns at all.
Now time for my randomness, which includes 28 tracks. (It surprises me how many tracks I've been making lately)
Dallas, Texas
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207242Phoenix, Arizona
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207245New York, New York
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207247Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207250Cleveland, Ohio
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207254Milwaukee, Wisconsin
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207257Bridgeport, Connecticut
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207260Boston, Massachusetts
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207264Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207272Petty Island
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207275Houston, Texas
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207281Sebring, Florida
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207289Mont-Tremblant, Quebec, Canada
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207292Canoe, British Columbia, Canada
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207325Deep Creek, Maryland (it's a side of a mountain)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207821Across the cove from the track before
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207827Make this Stefan's test track (REJECTFUL)
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207837Akasia, South Africa
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207841Near Campos, Spain
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207843Nivelles-Baulers, Belgium
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207924Aintree, Great Britain
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207935Bremgartenwald, Switzerland
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207958Autodromo Oscar Galvez
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6207974Somewhere between Montpelier and Waterbury, Vermont
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208715Walpole, New Hampshire
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208722Toscana
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208731Nurburgring
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208750Silverstone
http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=6208759
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 16 Feb 2014, 21:17
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 17 Feb 2014, 23:59
by go_Rubens
UgncreativeUsergname, some of those tracks looks better than a typical Tilke design, but others were a little meh. The ones that were neither were just bland. Although considering the locations, I understand why you made the tracks the way you did.
When I look up a place completely random to place a track (see my track called failure above), I find the place, and try my best to find a suitable area for a track near it. I guess in terms of my Failure track, I failed on that
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 18 Feb 2014, 00:05
by UncreativeUsername37
go_Rubens wrote:UgncreativeUsergname, some of those tracks looks better than a typical Tilke design, but others were a little meh. The ones that were neither were just bland. Although considering the locations, I understand why you made the tracks the way you did.
When I look up a place completely random to place a track (see my track called failure above), I find the place, and try my best to find a suitable area for a track
near it. I guess in terms of my Failure track, I failed on that
I understand it's to make a better track, and that's good; but that, to me, is cheating
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 18 Feb 2014, 19:20
by UncreativeUsername37
Re: Beat Tilke at his own game
Posted: 19 Feb 2014, 21:36
by go_Rubens