Grand Prix Rejects

The Burger King thread is still making me hungry.

Can we have a Pizza Hut thread?

I'd really, really like a Subway thread (since there is just one restaurant left in Vienna, and it's quite far from where I live )

Subway is just tarted up sandwiches, I don't think your missing much. On that theme the first ever Krispy Kreme in the UK was built 10 minutes from where I live (along with the world's first ever bank machine which was built in my hometown - there's a commemorative plaque still there)

Debaser wrote:Subway is just tarted up sandwiches, I don't think your missing much. On that theme the first ever Krispy Kreme in the UK was built 10 minutes from where I live (along with the world's first ever bank machine which was built in my hometown - there's a commemorative plaque still there)

I wish we had a Krispy Kreme in Cardiff...

Anyone placing bets about Webber's chances to become WDC this year?

Just when was the last time someone was given a stop-go penalty? Back in 1998 when I started to watch races regularly, we'd see stop-go penalties in almost every race. After when the drive-through penalty was introduced, we haven't seen many stop-go penalties, have we? Everyone seems to be getting "only" drive-through penalties, if any, these days. I actually thought that the whole penalty was removed before Mario copypasted the rules about penalties!

Chickens coming home to roost: remember Australia 1994, Schuey?

Nuppiz wrote:Just when was the last time someone was given a stop-go penalty? Back in 1998 when I started to watch races regularly, we'd see stop-go penalties in almost every race. After when the drive-through penalty was introduced, we haven't seen many stop-go penalties, have we? Everyone seems to be getting "only" drive-through penalties, if any, these days. I actually thought that the whole penalty was removed before Mario copypasted the rules about penalties!

I think the last time this penalty was used was in the 2008 Singapore GP for Rosberg and Kubica for pitting while pitlane was closed but I could be wrong

Williams are not even decent mid-fielders these days.

lostpin wrote:Williams are not even decent mid-fielders these days.

BLASPHEMY!

Wizzie wrote:

lostpin wrote:Williams are not even decent mid-fielders these days.

BLASPHEMY!

When they've qualified down in 15th and 17th place, I can see why he might be making that sort of comment...

Phoenix wrote:

CarlosFerreira wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:Not wanting to burst any bubbles, but I'm pretty sure that's Buemi, not the 'Portuguese maestro'.

The photo said it was the 'saurus. I don't know.

1st-Catalonia is allegedly not Spain, but it isn't Portuguese either.
2nd-That's Buemi. The Alguersaurus Rex has a yellow helmet.

I am sorry to have to correct you, Phoenix, but Alguersaurus had a silver helmet last year, whereas Buemi had a yellow and blue one and now has a red and blue one or something.

why cant drivers just use the same helmet design forever

Hey Jaime, are you losing steam again?

Vettel, you stupid motherbathplugger. What the bathplug possessed you to make such a dumb rookie mistake like that?!

Webber for 2010 WDC.

Wizzie wrote:

lostpin wrote:Williams are not even decent mid-fielders these days.

BLASPHEMY!

I agree with Wizzie, lostpin must face the papayas for such a horrible comment.

redbulljack14 wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

lostpin wrote:Williams are not even decent mid-fielders these days.

BLASPHEMY!

I agree with Wizzie, lostpin must face the papayas for such a horrible comment.

Oh, c'mon people, just look at what's happening. Force India, Toro Rosso, Renault, even Sauber... Williams seem to be falling down like that rain of papayas that you promised me... they're battling with the Lotuses, but in the present context, that doesn't look epic at all...

Williams should never have let BMW depart.

thehemogoblin wrote:Williams should never have let BMW depart.

BMW didn't really help though (all the really did was bring an engine supply + some money). They just need to sack the entire aero department pronto.

kostas22 wrote:

thehemogoblin wrote:Williams should never have let BMW depart.

BMW didn't really help though (all the really did was bring an engine supply + some money). They just need to sack the entire aero department pronto.

Ah, but look at the crappy engines they've had since.

thehemogoblin wrote:

kostas22 wrote:

thehemogoblin wrote:Williams should never have let BMW depart.

BMW didn't really help though (all the really did was bring an engine supply + some money). They just need to sack the entire aero department pronto.

Ah, but look at the crappy engines they've had since.

But even the best engine is not helping when the whole aerodynamic package is something you present to your unloved stepchild. Honda's engines were presumed to be on the upper class of the field and look where they ended up in 07 and 08.

WeirdKerr wrote:why cant drivers just use the same helmet design forever

+1

In the best of days, Christian Horner is a mediocre team manager; when the going gets tough, he's simply trampled by the drivers, Marko, Matteschitz, my grandmother...

Klon wrote:

thehemogoblin wrote:

kostas22 wrote:BMW didn't really help though (all the really did was bring an engine supply + some money). They just need to sack the entire aero department pronto.

Ah, but look at the crappy engines they've had since.

But even the best engine is not helping when the whole aerodynamic package is something you present to your unloved stepchild. Honda's engines were presumed to be on the upper class of the field and look where they ended up in 07 and 08.

I thought dropping a Mercedes into the old Honda chassis debunked that theory.

thehemogoblin wrote:

Klon wrote:

thehemogoblin wrote:
Ah, but look at the crappy engines they've had since.

But even the best engine is not helping when the whole aerodynamic package is something you present to your unloved stepchild. Honda's engines were presumed to be on the upper class of the field and look where they ended up in 07 and 08.

I thought dropping a Mercedes into the old Honda chassis debunked that theory.

The Honda engines were actually quite good.

Case of point: 2007 Italian Grand Prix. The one race of the year where the useless areodynamic package didn't get in the way.

Teams favouring one driver over another. Theres plenty of anecdotal evidence emerging regarding the situation at RBR some of which go back to the Nurgburgring last year. Crazy. Anybody with eyes, ears and a reasonable knowledge of F1 must understand that this isnt how to get the best out of a driver and it costs championships.

Dietrich Mateschitz seems to be quite infatuated by his wunderkind. Expect Webber to take the blame, sooner or later.

At the beginning of the season, Williams was deemed to belong in the good-but-not-best teams. After a while, it seems more appropriate that they belong in the bad-but-not-worst category.

They need Rubens as the no. 2 driver at Red Bull next year.

Ross Prawn wrote:They need Rubens as the no. 2 driver at Red Bull next year.

All this kerfuffle debunks the theory that Raikkonen could replace Webber. As if they'd ever let someone that quick partner Vettel.

Unless they expected him to spend the season in Cant Be Bothered Mode?

Which is why Buemi will get promoted to the Red Bull Racing drive. Everyone with a noggin knows he's crap and doesn't deserve his place in F1, but he's a Red Bull driver who won't beat Vettel. Even Bourdais had the edge over Vettel on occasions, too bad on those occasions it wasn't for a points-paying position.

Bring back Scott Speed!

Luca Badoer to Red Bull?

I'm having this ominous feeling that I may be wearing an "I believe in USF1" avatar soon. Damn the Cyborg from Vyborg!

CarlosFerreira wrote:I'm having this ominous feeling that I may be wearing an "I believe in USF1" avatar soon. Damn the Cyborg from Vyborg!

That's what you get for trusting Germans.














































I went there.

PhD supervisor giving yours truly Hell. Any guesses on his provenience, kostas?

Kostas, you're lucky nobody trusts me with the banhammer.

Ross Prawn wrote:They need Rubens as the no. 2 driver at Red Bull next year.

hmmm... i thought Rubens was doing OK as number 1 at Team Willy at the moment. For all his promise as the "next-next Schumacher", Hulkenberg isn't doing that well. Could there be a number of times that Rubens outqualifies him by 0.5s before he loses his drive?

coops wrote:Teams favouring one driver over another. Theres plenty of anecdotal evidence emerging regarding the situation at RBR some of which go back to the Nurgburgring last year. Crazy. Anybody with eyes, ears and a reasonable knowledge of F1 must understand that this isnt how to get the best out of a driver and it costs championships.

It seemed to work for Schumi, but then when a team does this it just taints it: if it were me I'd rather beat my team-mate and all comers and then claim the championship having vanquished the opposition.

How much value would a championship have if your team-mate was consigned to finish behind you, as the sole person on the grid that has comparable equipment? I can see how it may have been different in the 50s and 60s with an "after you old chap" to the senior team member, but the relevance of this is fading. Especially if it is commercially driven: it'll have the same feeling as the big-talking upstart getting promoted ahead of you at work, even though they only have a fraction of the talent.

Everyone will be watching Red Bull now: if Vettel wins the championship, it'll be because the Red Bull brass ordained it. If Webber does, it will be in spite of it.

I know what side of the equation I would prefer to be on!

Formula 1 needs to let lots of new teams in and bring back Pre-Qualifying.