Grand Prix Rejects

dr-baker wrote:

James1978 wrote:

dr-baker wrote:And Josh Hill would also be providing a link to the 1962 and 1968 champion...

EDIT: This is starting to sound like another Perry McCarthy Memorial Forum championship possibility, with people entering only drivers who are related to F1 champions/rejects/etc.

That's given me another idea of another alternative championship - ban everyone who's had other relations in F1 (but not motorsport in general as that would be way too difficult to do). Which means the mid 90s will be especially good with no Schumacher, Hill or Villeneuve, and the late 80s with no Piquet or Senna.

And no Hill or Stewart in the '60s or '70s!

Doesn't that mean total Prost domination then?

Jeroen Krautmeir wrote:

dr-baker wrote:

James1978 wrote: That's given me another idea of another alternative championship - ban everyone who's had other relations in F1 (but not motorsport in general as that would be way too difficult to do). Which means the mid 90s will be especially good with no Schumacher, Hill or Villeneuve, and the late 80s with no Piquet or Senna.

And no Hill or Stewart in the '60s or '70s!

Doesn't that mean total Prost domination then?

Unless Nicolas Prost somehow finds a way into F1 from whereever he is currently (sportscars?)...

That also eliminates Scheckter and Fittipaldi!

EDIT: Jabouille, Laffite, Beltoise, Cevert, Dolhem and Pironi are also eliminated.

At the 1991 Japanese Grand Prix, there were 9 Italian drivers in the race that weekend (11 if you count the 2 that DNQ'd.) Is that a record for most of a single nationality in an F1 race?

There were 9 British Drivers in the race at Silverstone in 1973 also, also 9 in 1967 (10 if you count the 1 DNS).

Are there any races featuring 10 or more?

F1000X wrote:At the 1991 Japanese Grand Prix, there were 9 Italian drivers in the race that weekend (11 if you count the 2 that DNQ'd.) Is that a record for most of a single nationality in an F1 race?

There were 9 British Drivers at Silverstone in 1973 also.

My guess is that the record must be in the 50's (not counting Indy). But I will let our 50's specialist, tommykl, answer that.

Well, so far I've got 18 Britons taking part in qualifying for the 1952 British GP:
Ken Downing
Reg Parnell
Mike Hawthorn
Dennis Poore
Eric Thompson
Duncan Hamilton
Graham Whitehead
Alan Brown
Peter Collins
Stirling Moss
Ken McAlpine
Eric Brandon
Roy Salvadori
Peter Whitehead
David Murray
Tony Crook
Lance Macklin
Bill Aston

EDIT: There were 21 Britons entered in qualifying for the 1959 British GP
Stirling Moss
Roy Salvadori
Alan Stacey
Graham Hill
Chris Bristow
Henry Taylor
Peter Ashdown
Ivor Bueb
Ron Flockhart
Jack Fairman
Ian Burgess
David Piper
Brian Naylor
Mike Taylor
Tony Brooks
Keith Greene
Bill Moss
Mike Parkes
Dennis Taylor
Trevor Taylor
Tim Parnell

WOW. How many of them started the race?

Two random ponderings

1) redbulljack's avatar is epic
2) The link in dr-baker's signature makes me realise how much this forum misses coops' contributions.

Warren Hughes wrote:Two random ponderings

1) redbulljack's avatar is epic

Do you mean my current one?

Because i've easily had more different avatars than anyone on this forum.

Although Bernoldi was pretty epic, holding up DC at Monaco 2001, and passing Michael Schumacher at Malaysia 2002.

Speaking of Bernoldi, will he be getting a profile anytime soon?

redbulljack14 wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:Two random ponderings

1) redbulljack's avatar is epic

Do you mean my current one?

Because i've easily had more different avatars than anyone on this forum.

Although Bernoldi was pretty epic, holding up DC at Monaco 2001, and passing Michael Schumacher at Malaysia 2002.

Speaking of Bernoldi, will he be getting a profile anytime soon?

Monaco 2001: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZWPBNVZ ... ata_player
Malaysia 2002: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7MLpfON ... ata_player

I always thought Bernoldi was a decent driver. Took the fight to Verstappen in 2001 and matched Frentzen in 2002. And that Arrows in 2002 is one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

AdrianSutil wrote:I always thought Bernoldi was a decent driver. Took the fight to Verstappen in 2001 and matched Frentzen in 2002. And that Arrows in 2002 is one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

And one of our members actually worked for the team during 2002

Wizzie wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:I always thought Bernoldi was a decent driver. Took the fight to Verstappen in 2001 and matched Frentzen in 2002. And that Arrows in 2002 is one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

And one of our members actually worked for the team during 2002

Faustus? I remember him talking about the teams demise and how good the Cosworth engine was. Shame he doesn't seem to post anymore..

AdrianSutil wrote:

Wizzie wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:I always thought Bernoldi was a decent driver. Took the fight to Verstappen in 2001 and matched Frentzen in 2002. And that Arrows in 2002 is one of the best looking cars I've ever seen.

And one of our members actually worked for the team during 2002

Faustus? I remember him talking about the teams demise and how good the Cosworth engine was. Shame he doesn't seem to post anymore..

That's him. I wonder what he's up to nowadays.

Spent the day working with Jake Humphrey yesterday. What a gent.

F1000X wrote:WOW. How many of them started the race?

In that category, the 1952 race takes the cake, with 17 of them starting. Only 15 started in 1959.

Warren Hughes wrote:Two random ponderings

1) redbulljack's avatar is epic
2) The link in dr-baker's signature makes me realise how much this forum misses coops' contributions.

And I'm honoured that somebody has quoted me in their signature - you're the only person to have done so I believe!

I saw Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol today, and while I was very disappointed by it, I did crack a smile at the way one of the characters (played by Anil Kapoor) is an Indian tycoon with a goatee, a wide collection of art and questionable business practices. Sound like any team principals we know?

Captain Hammer wrote:I saw Mission: Impossible – Ghost Protocol today, and while I was very disappointed by it, I did crack a smile at the way one of the characters (played by Anil Kapoor) is an Indian tycoon with a goatee, a wide collection of art and questionable business practices. Sound like any team principals we know?

Definitely not.

Oh, it was clearly based on Mallya - admittedly a slicker, sleazier and younger version of him, but certainly Mallya. The similarities were just too numerous for it to be conincidence.



I don't want to go into too much detail lest I spoil the film for someone. Not that it is worth spoiling.

Warren Hughes wrote:The link in dr-baker's signature makes me realise how much this forum misses coops' contributions.

I missed you too. I took a year out for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as perhaps the oldest member of the forum mixing it with the children seemed a little inappropriate. I saw a commercial about men like that. Scared the bejesus out of me. Secondly, I never took a year out when I was of a studenty age, I thought Id give it a go. S'alright.

CoopsII wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:The link in dr-baker's signature makes me realise how much this forum misses coops' contributions.

I missed you too. I took a year out for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as perhaps the oldest member of the forum mixing it with the children seemed a little inappropriate. I saw a commercial about men like that. Scared the bejesus out of me. Secondly, I never took a year out when I was of a studenty age, I thought Id give it a go. S'alright.

Eagleash? A child? I'm sure he'll take it as a compliment... And DanielPT and I are in our late 20's. So welcome back!

CoopsII wrote:

Warren Hughes wrote:The link in dr-baker's signature makes me realise how much this forum misses coops' contributions.

I missed you too. I took a year out for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as perhaps the oldest member of the forum mixing it with the children seemed a little inappropriate. I saw a commercial about men like that. Scared the bejesus out of me. Secondly, I never took a year out when I was of a studenty age, I thought Id give it a go. S'alright.

Hey Coops, we've all got a year older, but some of those pesky kids are even younger nowadays (I could ~nearly~ be wmetcalf68's grandfather) ....

I am so feeling the love right now.

Who cares about others' age if the discussion is entertaining and interesting? Even accounting for some of the antics we spring up from time to time, I have to say the level of maturity of this forum's users is staggering regardless of the age.

CoopsII wrote:I missed you too. I took a year out for a couple of reasons. Firstly, as perhaps the oldest member of the forum mixing it with the children seemed a little inappropriate. I saw a commercial about men like that. Scared the bejesus out of me. Secondly, I never took a year out when I was of a studenty age, I thought Id give it a go. S'alright.

Nowhere near being the oldest member of this forum. There are some things you are but that isn't one of them.

Phoenix wrote: Even accounting for some of the antics we spring up from time to time, I have to say the level of maturity of this forum's users is staggering regardless of the age.

So how close to the line do you reckon we get?

Phoenix wrote: Even accounting for some of the antics we spring up from time to time, I have to say the level of maturity of this forum's users is staggering regardless of the age.

Might depend on your perspective....

dr-baker wrote:

Phoenix wrote: Even accounting for some of the antics we spring up from time to time, I have to say the level of maturity of this forum's users is staggering regardless of the age.

So how close to the line do you reckon we get?

Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

AdrianSutil wrote:Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

Funny how hiding behind a keyboard makes some people a tough guy.

CoopsII wrote:Funny how hiding behind a keyboard makes some people a tough guy.

I think it's called "Keyboard Warrior". And yes, I have been guilty of that on occasion

dinizintheoven wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

I can also remember f1-gast attitudes when he posted but he ended up abandoning his account when people remarked this and mario deleted some sentences from his post.

DanielPT wrote:

dinizintheoven wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

I can also remember f1-gast attitudes when he posted but he ended up abandoning his account when people remarked this and mario deleted some sentences from his post.

I know no one will remember this but Snoozey2 got banned for doing that sort of stuff.

as long as we can keep a separation of rejects and state (not talking about politics), everything will just remain fine.

eurobrun wrote:

DanielPT wrote:

dinizintheoven wrote:Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

I can also remember f1-gast attitudes when he posted but he ended up abandoning his account when people remarked this and mario deleted some sentences from his post.

I know no one will remember this but Snoozey2 got banned for doing that sort of stuff.

Snoozey reappeared as PWNSNBM & was advised he'd been rumbled & went away. He could still be here for all we know. Guest are unidentified & plenty of people are registered but don't post.

Thanks eagleash

Wizzie wrote:

CoopsII wrote:Funny how hiding behind a keyboard makes some people a tough guy.

I think it's called "Keyboard Warrior". And yes, I have been guilty of that on occasion

Or, as some good pals of mine called it: Internet Commando. (WARNING for wmetcalf98, other youngsters and Daily Mail complainers: contains more naughty words than a Paul Stoddart outburst.)

eurobrun wrote:

DanielPT wrote:

dinizintheoven wrote:Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

I can also remember f1-gast attitudes when he posted but he ended up abandoning his account when people remarked this and mario deleted some sentences from his post.

I know no one will remember this but Snoozey2 got banned for doing that sort of stuff.

IIRC I played a controversial role in that ordeal.

DanielPT wrote:

dinizintheoven wrote:

AdrianSutil wrote:Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

Oh, yes, that one. However, that was a mere drop in the ocean compared to some attitudes I've seen elsewhere, but if I was to mention what those attitudes were, even though I'm quoting someone else, I'd probably get thrown to the wolves. Unless, of course, some of you really want to know and promise that any reaction will be resolutely wolf-free.

I can also remember f1-gast attitudes when he posted but he ended up abandoning his account when people remarked this and mario deleted some sentences from his post.

Yeah, the crude and offensive comments he posted about Thailand when a rumour of a race taking part there started to flow. A shame really, he had some good info about reject teams, but his attitude towards rule changes and new races really got on my nerves.

shinji wrote:

eurobrun wrote:I know no one will remember this but Snoozey2 got banned for doing that sort of stuff.

IIRC I played a controversial role in that ordeal.

Have I just started a trend here?