2010 Driver Market

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 12 Jan 2010, 01:34

And in my view, its Heidfelt who loses the most. He has probably had enough of being in teams that prop up the grid, but any one of those teams could go sour. Fisi would probably just hang on to his Ferrari test drive and hope for someone else to get sacked at a better team, but right now, unless it turns out that Massa isnt able to drive (highly unlikely), even a mid grid team spot is unlikely to open up. De La Rosa and Wurz dont really offer anything better than a youngster can (yes they have experience, but when they got a second chance, they hardly made the most of it) Villeneuve is a bit rebellious and will probably want a decent wage, something that the teams listed below cant really afford. Sato and Davidson deserve a shot somewhere, they both showed at Super Aguri that they can push a team up the field - something that could benefit one of the new teams.

Just my opinion.

tristan1117 wrote:2010 could turn out to be one of the most interesting years since 1994 in terms of driver movement.

And full of (potential) mass rejectdom.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 12 Jan 2010, 04:17

Collieafc wrote:And in my view, its Heidfelt who loses the most. He has probably had enough of being in teams that prop up the grid, but any one of those teams could go sour. Fisi would probably just hang on to his Ferrari test drive and hope for someone else to get sacked at a better team, but right now, unless it turns out that Massa isnt able to drive (highly unlikely), even a mid grid team spot is unlikely to open up. De La Rosa and Wurz dont really offer anything better than a youngster can (yes they have experience, but when they got a second chance, they hardly made the most of it) Villeneuve is a bit rebellious and will probably want a decent wage, something that the teams listed below cant really afford. Sato and Davidson deserve a shot somewhere, they both showed at Super Aguri that they can push a team up the field - something that could benefit one of the new teams.

Just my opinion.

Bingo someone give this man a beer :mrgreen:

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 12 Jan 2010, 18:37

tristan1117 wrote:2010 could turn out to be one of the most interesting years since 1994 in terms of driver movement.

Just so long as we don't have a repeat of Imola that year or repeats of Wendlinger's Monaco crash or Montermini's Spanish crash... Or any of the controversy of that year or more recent years...

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 12 Jan 2010, 18:55

dr-baker wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:2010 could turn out to be one of the most interesting years since 1994 in terms of driver movement.

Just so long as we don't have a repeat of Imola that year or repeats of Wendlinger's Monaco crash or Montermini's Spanish crash... Or any of the controversy of that year or more recent years...

Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Jan 2010, 18:57

DonTirri wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:2010 could turn out to be one of the most interesting years since 1994 in terms of driver movement.

Just so long as we don't have a repeat of Imola that year or repeats of Wendlinger's Monaco crash or Montermini's Spanish crash... Or any of the controversy of that year or more recent years...

Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

You're a dick!

It wouldn't be bad, until you consider the fact that he'd end up martyred as a saint. We don't want this.

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Jan 2010, 19:00

DonTirri wrote:
Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

Oi, that's unpleasant.

Come on, you can despise anyone you want, but it's a bit silly to come and say it on the Interweb, where everyone will start shouting back at Raikkonen through the Facetubes, isn't it?

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 12 Jan 2010, 19:13

DonTirri wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
tristan1117 wrote:2010 could turn out to be one of the most interesting years since 1994 in terms of driver movement.

Just so long as we don't have a repeat of Imola that year or repeats of Wendlinger's Monaco crash or Montermini's Spanish crash... Or any of the controversy of that year or more recent years...

Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

Teensy bit extreme, don't ya think. You don't even know the guy.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 12 Jan 2010, 19:15

CarlosFerreira wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

Oi, that's unpleasant.

Come on, you can despise anyone you want, but it's a bit silly to come and say it on the Interweb, where everyone will start shouting back at Raikkonen through the Facetubes, isn't it?

Everyone already are so what difference does it make?

Anyhow on a more serious tone, I admit that went a bit overboard. Not the first time my attempt at black humor fails. (yes, it was meant as a joke, believe it or not!)

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 12 Jan 2010, 19:31

DonTirri wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

Oi, that's unpleasant.

Come on, you can despise anyone you want, but it's a bit silly to come and say it on the Interweb, where everyone will start shouting back at Raikkonen through the Facetubes, isn't it?

Everyone already are so what difference does it make?

Anyhow on a more serious tone, I admit that went a bit overboard. Not the first time my attempt at black humor fails. (yes, it was meant as a joke, believe it or not!)

Well, the lesson is, don't wish death or ill on people again. In the words of Alexsandr Orlov, "Simples!"

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 12 Jan 2010, 19:50

DonTirri wrote:
CarlosFerreira wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
Call me a dick but I wouldn't mind one bit if Imola repeated with Hamilton playing the role of Senna. I just simply bathplug despise him. Enough to wish ill on him.

Oi, that's unpleasant.

Come on, you can despise anyone you want, but it's a bit silly to come and say it on the Interweb, where everyone will start shouting back at Raikkonen through the Facetubes, isn't it?

Everyone already are so what difference does it make?

Anyhow on a more serious tone, I admit that went a bit overboard. Not the first time my attempt at black humor fails. (yes, it was meant as a joke, believe it or not!)

It's all right. I do believe it was a joke - otherwise, it'd just be stupid - but that sort of thing can bring a lot of bad mojo.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Jan 2010, 20:54

Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 12 Jan 2010, 20:55

Phoenix wrote:Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

Are you saying that that's silly? 'Cos it really isn't.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 12 Jan 2010, 20:58

Phoenix wrote:Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

Thats what they thought back in 94 too...

The thing is, Danger of death will ALWAYS be part of the sport. All it requires is one freaky unpredictable coincidence and we got another fatality. Massa's accident this year was a stern reminder of the possibility, especially with Henry Surtees' accident not that much before.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Jan 2010, 21:04

DonTirri wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

Thats what they thought back in 94 too...

The thing is, Danger of death will ALWAYS be part of the sport. All it requires is one freaky unpredictable coincidence and we got another fatality. Massa's accident this year was a stern reminder of the possibility, especially with Henry Surtees' accident not that much before.

What seemed strange to me of Massa's injury is, I read F1 helmets were designed to withstand a close-range revolver shoot even on the visor...

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 12 Jan 2010, 21:06

Phoenix wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

Thats what they thought back in 94 too...

The thing is, Danger of death will ALWAYS be part of the sport. All it requires is one freaky unpredictable coincidence and we got another fatality. Massa's accident this year was a stern reminder of the possibility, especially with Henry Surtees' accident not that much before.

What seemed strange to me of Massa's injury is, I read F1 helmets were designed to withstand a close-range revolver shoot even on the visor...

He's back, and seems to be OK. That's the end of it. Sorry to be blunt, but everything's OK, with Massa at least.

DonTirri · Post by **DonTirri** » 12 Jan 2010, 21:08

Phoenix wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
Phoenix wrote:Silly-F1 is so secure nowadays it's as next to impossible as you can get that a driver gets killed.

Thats what they thought back in 94 too...

The thing is, Danger of death will ALWAYS be part of the sport. All it requires is one freaky unpredictable coincidence and we got another fatality. Massa's accident this year was a stern reminder of the possibility, especially with Henry Surtees' accident not that much before.

What seemed strange to me of Massa's injury is, I read F1 helmets were designed to withstand a close-range revolver shoot even on the visor...

Actually, I'd say that would've caused less damage. A revolver-shot might come faster, but the spring came with ridiculous mass. it was the Mass and the impact velocity that caused the damage, not the piercing power or the launching velocity (which are what firearms rely for).

Just think Bullet"proof" vests. They might save your life if you are shot with a revolver, but not if someone takes a sledgehammer and swings it to your chest full force.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 12 Jan 2010, 21:16

DonTirri wrote:Actually, I'd say that would've caused less damage. A revolver-shot might come faster, but the spring came with ridiculous mass. it was the Mass and the impact velocity that caused the damage, not the piercing power or the launching velocity (which are what firearms rely for).

Just think Bullet"proof" vests. They might save your life if you are shot with a revolver, but not if someone takes a sledgehammer and swings it to your chest full force.

I assume that evidences I'm not the best of phisics :oops:

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 12 Jan 2010, 21:23

Phoenix wrote:
DonTirri wrote:Actually, I'd say that would've caused less damage. A revolver-shot might come faster, but the spring came with ridiculous mass. it was the Mass and the impact velocity that caused the damage, not the piercing power or the launching velocity (which are what firearms rely for).

Just think Bullet"proof" vests. They might save your life if you are shot with a revolver, but not if someone takes a sledgehammer and swings it to your chest full force.

I assume that evidences I'm not the best of phisics

... or English...

You're looking for "I assume that shows I'm not the best at physics."

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 13 Jan 2010, 14:00

thehemogoblin wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I assume that evidences I'm not the best of phisics

... or English...

You're looking for "I assume that shows I'm not the best at physics."

I meant to say that, of all physics, I wouldn't be the best (considering physics everyone in the damn world...)
Apart of that, writing phisics was an epic fail...

blackchristian888 · Post by **blackchristian888** » 13 Jan 2010, 15:25

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shinji · Post by **shinji** » 13 Jan 2010, 16:06

Phoenix wrote:
thehemogoblin wrote:
Phoenix wrote:I assume that evidences I'm not the best of phisics

... or English...

You're looking for "I assume that shows I'm not the best at physics."

I meant to say that, of all physics, I wouldn't be the best (considering physics everyone in the damn world...)
Apart of that, writing phisics was an epic fail...

You're gravitationally challenged.

Oh and Cesar - vale to you good sir. Don't know what's goin' on with your name though.

thehemogoblin · Post by **thehemogoblin** » 13 Jan 2010, 16:28

blackchristian888 wrote:Great Forum!! I'm Cesar and I'm new here, just browsing for some good stuff and informative posts.

If you want information, you're in the wrong forum.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 13 Jan 2010, 19:36

thehemogoblin wrote:
blackchristian888 wrote:Great Forum!! I'm Cesar and I'm new here, just browsing for some good stuff and informative posts.

If you want information, you're in the wrong forum.

But this forum is of enormous interest! Don't listen to this fool and stay for long. Remember-50% off in shoes the first month of staying!

Alianora La Canta · Post by **Alianora La Canta** » 13 Jan 2010, 22:29

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Welcome to F1 Rejects, blackchristian888. Hope you enjoy contributing to our community.

If you need some information, ask away and I'll try to find out

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Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 14 Jan 2010, 10:30

blackchristian888 wrote:Great Forum!! I'm Cesar and I'm new here, just browsing for some good stuff and informative posts.

Is it just me who is suspicious of that. Looks like spam to me. Prove me wrong and I'll happily remove this post!

CarlosFerreira · Post by **CarlosFerreira** » 14 Jan 2010, 12:06

Tealy wrote:
blackchristian888 wrote:Great Forum!! I'm Cesar and I'm new here, just browsing for some good stuff and informative posts.

Is it just me who is suspicious of that. Looks like spam to me. Prove me wrong and I'll happily remove this post!

Look carefully and thou shall find it's been dealt with.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 14 Jan 2010, 17:02

CarlosFerreira wrote:
Tealy wrote:
blackchristian888 wrote:Great Forum!! I'm Cesar and I'm new here, just browsing for some good stuff and informative posts.

Is it just me who is suspicious of that. Looks like spam to me. Prove me wrong and I'll happily remove this post!

Look carefully and thou shall find it's been dealt with.

...And that post from Carlos was the 666th post in this thread! :twisted:

Henrique · Post by **Henrique** » 18 Jan 2010, 14:41

Back to topic, it seems Fisichella may be on his way to Sauber.

Kobayashi and Fisichella. What do you think?

Waris · Post by **Waris** » 18 Jan 2010, 14:47

Henrique wrote:Back to topic, it seems Fisichella may be on his way to Sauber.

Kobayashi and Fisichella. What do you think?

I think epic.

watka · Post by **watka** » 18 Jan 2010, 21:19

Henrique wrote:Back to topic, it seems Fisichella may be on his way to Sauber.

Kobayashi and Fisichella. What do you think?

Fisichella will get absolutely DESTROYED by Kobayashi

Collieafc · Post by **Collieafc** » 18 Jan 2010, 23:02

in more ways than 1...

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2010, 12:56

From Autosport this morning, the latest F1 2010 line-up:

2010 driver line-up:

Mercedes GP

Michael Schumacher
Nico Rosberg

Red Bull Racing

Sebastian Vettel
Mark Webber

McLaren-Mercedes

Jenson Button
Lewis Hamilton

Ferrari

Ferrari Alonso
Felipe Massa

BMW Sauber

Pedro de la Rosa
Kamui Kobayashi

Williams-Cosworth

Rubens Barrichello
Nico Hulkenberg

Renault

Robert Kubica
TBA

Force India-Mercedes

Adrian Sutil
Tonio Liuzzi

Toro Rosso-Ferrari

Sebastien Buemi
Jamie Alguersuari

Lotus-Cosworth

Jarno Trulli
Heikki Kovalainen

Campos-Cosworth

Bruno Senna
TBA

Virgin-Cosworth

Timo Glock
Lucas di Grassi

US F1-Cosworth

TBA
TBA

So it's DLR to Sauber, not Fizzycheddar.

Tealy · Post by **Tealy** » 19 Jan 2010, 17:12

Did Alguersuari get confirmed by Torro Rosso? I thought we were still waiting that one.

dr-baker · Post by **dr-baker** » 19 Jan 2010, 19:41

Tealy wrote:Did Alguersuari get confirmed by Torro Rosso? I thought we were still waiting that one.

Well, according to Autosport...

And here's the reference link: http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/80965

Alianora La Canta · Post by **Alianora La Canta** » 19 Jan 2010, 21:34

Alguersuari was supposed to have been confirmed by Toro Rosso in November. The contract took longer than expected to sort...

Captain Hammer · Post by **Captain Hammer** » 19 Jan 2010, 22:56

Vitaly Petrov confirms he's in talks with Renault.

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 19 Jan 2010, 22:59

Captain Hammer wrote:Vitaly Petrov confirms he's in talks with Renault.

Well he's not much of a genii, is he?

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 20 Jan 2010, 18:25

shinji wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:Vitaly Petrov confirms he's in talks with Renault.

Well he's not much of a genii, is he?

Aaarrg, please don't remember Latin to me. I've been doing phrases for hours...

shinji · Post by **shinji** » 20 Jan 2010, 19:05

Phoenix wrote:
shinji wrote:
Captain Hammer wrote:Vitaly Petrov confirms he's in talks with Renault.

Well he's not much of a genii, is he?

Aaarrg, please don't remember Latin to me. I've been doing phrases for hours...

It was an unfunny reference to the 'Genii' organisation that has taken charge of Renault.

But I know how you feel - here's my Latin teacher. Strict and a lot of work but ultimately epic.

Phoenix · Post by **Phoenix** » 20 Jan 2010, 19:14

shinji wrote:
It was an unfunny reference to the 'Genii' organisation that has taken charge of Renault.

But I know how you feel - here's my Latin teacher. Strict and a lot of work but ultimately epic.

I see. I couldn't find my teacher on that page though-seems it only works with certain countries. Mine was very simpathetic and explained lessons great, but she got pregnant and now we had a novel one as a substitutive that sends a lot of work but she does not explain as well as my previous one did-and we're all suffering it badly.