Grand Prix Rejects

Posted: **18 Dec 2011, 20:11**

kostas22 wrote:
shinji wrote:
eurobrun wrote:I know no one will remember this but Snoozey2 got banned for doing that sort of stuff.

IIRC I played a controversial role in that ordeal.

Have I just started a trend here?

Nah, that was yer man, Snoozey. As a rereg he went on a Picard rampage and was promptly banned.

Posted: **18 Dec 2011, 20:29**

Oh. I didn't realise he was doing it before me

Posted: **20 Dec 2011, 16:29**

"Kim Jong-il ran his country like someone playing Sim City by smashing his face into the keyboard."

I'm sure there are many, many ways of turning this memorable quote into something involving Super Mario Kart and Jean-Denis Délétraz or any of our other favourite reject drivers... as well as those "I'm gon' getcha booooy, I'm gon' getcha!" ram-raiders that make up a worrying proportion of the NASCAR grid.

Posted: **25 Dec 2011, 19:51**

I'm on my second (or third, I can't remember) run through every single F1 Rejects Podcast and I was listening to the 2005 Italian GP. A guy named Desmond Jones said that Christian Albers might get the third McLaren seat for 2006 and Tiago Monteiro would get a BAR drive. Things seem so much crazier with hindsight.

Posted: **25 Dec 2011, 21:44**

AdrianSutil wrote:
dr-baker wrote:
Phoenix wrote: Even accounting for some of the antics we spring up from time to time, I have to say the level of maturity of this forum's users is staggering regardless of the age.

So how close to the line do you reckon we get?

Apart from Don-Tirri's Schumacher remark after Singapore, that's it I think. At least in the time I've been here. I'm sure there's been others.

OI! I am offended by the implication!

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 03:19**

Well if you hadn't of said what you said then people wouldn't call you a troll.

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 08:26**

eurobrun wrote:Well if you hadn't of said what you said then people wouldn't call you a troll.

So A honest opinion is trolling? Yes that comment was a tad untasteful (but spurred by almost two decades of dislike towards him) but trolling?

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 12:42**

DonTirri wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Well if you hadn't of said what you said then people wouldn't call you a troll.

So A honest opinion is trolling? Yes that comment was a tad untasteful (but spurred by almost two decades of dislike towards him) but trolling?

I find it ironic that you share a huge dislike for Schumacher while having, at the same time, a big love for the "baby Schumi" (Vettel). How things change!

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 13:19**

DanielPT wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Well if you hadn't of said what you said then people wouldn't call you a troll.
96

So A honest opinion is trolling? Yes that comment was a tad untasteful (but spurred by almost two decades of dislike towards him) but trolling?

I find it ironic that you share a huge dislike for Schumacher while having, at the same time, a big love for the "baby Schumi" (Vettel). How things change!

How so? Only thing Vettel has in common with Schuey is nationality and speed. I never had problems with either Schueys speed nor nationality. I had a huge problem with his antics on the track. Adelaide 94, Jerez 97... That kinda stuff.

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 14:50**

DonTirri wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
DonTirri wrote:
So A honest opinion is trolling? Yes that comment was a tad untasteful (but spurred by almost two decades of dislike towards him) but trolling?

I find it ironic that you share a huge dislike for Schumacher while having, at the same time, a big love for the "baby Schumi" (Vettel). How things change!

How so? Only thing Vettel has in common with Schuey is nationality and speed. I never had problems with either Schueys speed nor nationality. I had a huge problem with his antics on the track. Adelaide 94, Jerez 97... That kinda stuff.

Those are not the only things. The most important one is the modus operandi which consists in attention to detail, gathering the team around and being a leader and inspiration for the team (Alonso also shares this, but he seems to lack the appetite for learning the technical part both Germans have). Blandness is also a characteristic they share. Granted, Vettel seems much nicer than Shuey but is equally more boring! Anyway, it is not only because of nationality they are compared.

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 18:12**

DanielPT wrote:Those are not the only things. The most important one is the modus operandi which consists in attention to detail, gathering the team around and being a leader and inspiration for the team (Alonso also shares this, but he seems to lack the appetite for learning the technical part both Germans have). Blandness is also a characteristic they share. Granted, Vettel seems much nicer than Shuey but is equally more boring! Anyway, it is not only because of nationality they are compared.

You forgot to mention that Vettel seems to be on quite good terms with Schumacher too (don't forget that the first driver to congratulate Vettel in Japan for winning the WDC was Schumacher, and the two are often seen chatting in the paddock after a race) - though Vettel did admit after the Race of Champions that he wasn't quite as keen as Schumacher to go out for a drink. Mind you, given Schumacher's reputation when drinking after celebrating a victory, that does seem like a wise idea...

Posted: **26 Dec 2011, 19:21**

I think the only reason i - and lots of others - dislike vettel is because there is no particular reason to dislike him. I get annoyed by people who don't do anything wrong.
Liking or dislike him is irrelevant to liking or disliking schumacher, because he's always been controversial, whilst vettel's only mistakes were inexperience-related. Oh gosh i hate that kid

you know, it's just the reject in me, who doesn't want people do be perfect. I want incosistent and/or rejectful drivers! People who say stupid or random things at times.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 01:03**

DonTirri wrote:
eurobrun wrote:Well if you hadn't of said what you said then people wouldn't call you a troll.

So A honest opinion is trolling? Yes that comment was a tad untasteful (but spurred by almost two decades of dislike towards him) but trolling?

Wishing harm on someone has no place on this forum.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 08:06**

Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 08:07**

Wizzie wrote:Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

You were paying attention in Geography?

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 08:14**

the Masked Lapwing wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

You were paying attention in Geography?

Amazingly yes. I actually used to genuinely like Geography. But then it got boring as batshite in Year 9.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 08:19**

That sucks

I'm going into year 9 next year.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 12:13**

Wizzie wrote:Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

Oh boy... This sentence tells me that you should be paying more attention to Physics class than to Geography... :lol:

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 12:15**

DanielPT wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

Oh boy... This sentence tells me that you should be paying more attention to Physics class than to Geography...

Sad thing is I'm doing Physics AND Engineering next year as part of my HSC :lol:

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 12:31**

Is it wrong that I enjoyed Geography during my time at school, and might have continued it at A-level? Physics was bloody awful at A-level, so much so that I dropped it after a few weeks, so good luck with that!

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 12:36**

Wizzie wrote:
DanielPT wrote:
Wizzie wrote:Something's just occurred to me:

I've just realised that it's not just the length of the DRS zone that determines is effectiveness. It's the angle that the straight that it's on. Now, I've learned a few years ago in Geography that fires move faster up hills rather than down hills and, while I am no expert in fluid dynamics, I believe that this principal explains why the DRS zone was almost too effective at both Turkey and Spa as the straights the DRS zone was placed at were at least partially uphill.

Oh boy... This sentence tells me that you should be paying more attention to Physics class than to Geography...

Sad thing is I'm doing Physics AND Engineering next year as part of my HSC

Ok, let me explain. The reason why fire moves faster up hills is a very different one than those of cars. You see, a car, when going straight, has to fight with two forces, friction and air resistance. These two forces combined will stop the car if no impulsion force is made to counteract the first two. If a car goes uphill it fights one more force, gravity. This same force helps the car while going downhill. The reason why DRS might work better (theoretically I think it should, although in F1 cars the difference is a bit marginal) is because you will accelerate faster and hence spend less time going downhill. This makes less time to use DRS and so less time for its effects to work. The reason why fire moves faster uphill is the same one which explains why if you pick a hot coal with a pair of pincers and put your hand one feet higher than the coal's position, this will more likely get you burned than the other way around. Hot air goes up and cold air comes down. Trees that are in higher position than the fire will heat up due to the hot air coming out of the fire and will eventually be hot and dry enough to reach combustion point and catch a fire themselves. If the tree is bellow the fire position it avoids most of the hot air and stay fresh enough for longer and is more likely to avoid catching fire.

Posted: **27 Dec 2011, 18:58**

East Londoner wrote:Is it wrong that I enjoyed Geography during my time at school, and might have continued it at A-level?

Absolutely bloody not! (Says the geography undergraduate!) :lol:

Posted: **30 Dec 2011, 18:18**

AndreaModa wrote:
East Londoner wrote:Is it wrong that I enjoyed Geography during my time at school, and might have continued it at A-level?

Absolutely bloody not! (Says the geography undergraduate!)

It's not that Geography itself is bad, it's the horrific teachers that give the subject a bad name!

Posted: **30 Dec 2011, 18:44**

My teacher told me that my Geography homework was all over the place.

Posted: **30 Dec 2011, 21:01**

CoopsII wrote:My teacher told me that my Geography homework was all over the place.

Posted: **31 Dec 2011, 02:24**

Two things
1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music
2. I really need to make my fictional drivers more interesting.

Posted: **31 Dec 2011, 02:51**

eurobrun wrote:Two things
1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music
2. I really need to make my fictional drivers more interesting.

Number two is easy - get involved in the mafia, come up with proposterous rumours, and generally make you and your team look like a bunch of incompetent fools.

And I can't comment on number one as I have no idea what he listens to...although I bet it isn't Louis Prima

Posted: **31 Dec 2011, 16:33**

eurobrun wrote:Two things
1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music
2. I really need to make my fictional drivers more interesting.

You are now my favourite member of the forum

Posted: **31 Dec 2011, 17:41**

dinizintheoven wrote:"Kim Jong-il ran his country like someone playing Sim City by smashing his face into the keyboard."

I'm sure there are many, many ways of turning this memorable quote into something involving Super Mario Kart and Jean-Denis Délétraz or any of our other favourite reject drivers... as well as those "I'm gon' getcha booooy, I'm gon' getcha!" ram-raiders that make up a worrying proportion of the NASCAR grid.

*insert some Japanese commentator saying crash*

:lol:

Posted: **31 Dec 2011, 18:09**

eurobrun wrote:Two things
1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music
2. I really need to make my fictional drivers more interesting.

Number 1 is so true, 90's britpop ftw

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 15:51**

Sorry to bump this back up, but a recent article by Joe Saward on the latest sponsorship deal that Lotus have announced - which will be to sponsor four cars in the German ATS Formula 3 Cup - is making me wonder if there is anything that Bahar hasn't tried sticking a Group Lotus sticker on.

We have the Formula 1 sponsorship deal, a deal with ART Grand Prix for GP2 and GP3 branded teams, a sponsorship deal with Kolles to run a Group Lotus branded LMP2 car (with a Judd engine) and are a nominated reserve team in the GTE class for this years Le Mans team, a deal with Judd and a number of IndyCar teams to run both Lotus tuned engines and sponsorship package and now this. According to Racecar Engineering, there is even a tarmac rally version of the Exige in the works right now - dubbed the R-GT - which was shaken down in late December last year and due to be launched this year (and - for once - it seems that Group Lotus are not promoting this using the "JPS lite" livery, but a red, white and light blue livery instead). http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... irst-time/

Looking at that list, it seems as if Bahar really is sticking by his promise to promote the Group Lotus name in every major series and then some - but the more that Bahar spreads the Lotus marque around, the more you start to wonder where the money is coming to fund all of these sponsorship deals. That is even more pertinent now that the Malaysian Government is selling its stake in Proton, since it means that Group Lotus can't rely on Proton bailing them out for much longer...

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 16:23**

mario wrote:Sorry to bump this back up, but a recent article by Joe Saward on the latest sponsorship deal that Lotus have announced - which will be to sponsor four cars in the German ATS Formula 3 Cup - is making me wonder if there is anything that Bahar hasn't tried sticking a Group Lotus sticker on.

We have the Formula 1 sponsorship deal, a deal with ART Grand Prix for GP2 and GP3 branded teams, a sponsorship deal with Kolles to run a Group Lotus branded LMP2 car (with a Judd engine) and are a nominated reserve team in the GTE class for this years Le Mans team, a deal with Judd and a number of IndyCar teams to run both Lotus tuned engines and sponsorship package and now this. According to Racecar Engineering, there is even a tarmac rally version of the Exige in the works right now - dubbed the R-GT - which was shaken down in late December last year and due to be launched this year (and - for once - it seems that Group Lotus are not promoting this using the "JPS lite" livery, but a red, white and light blue livery instead). http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... irst-time/

Looking at that list, it seems as if Bahar really is sticking by his promise to promote the Group Lotus name in every major series and then some - but the more that Bahar spreads the Lotus marque around, the more you start to wonder where the money is coming to fund all of these sponsorship deals. That is even more pertinent now that the Malaysian Government is selling its stake in Proton, since it means that Group Lotus can't rely on Proton bailing them out for much longer...

It all seems like a wonderful dream that one is having just before waking up... Let's see if the ceiling is not that close to the bed to the point that Bahar destroys is forehead when he suddenly wakes up.

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 18:35**

mario wrote:Sorry to bump this back up, but a recent article by Joe Saward on the latest sponsorship deal that Lotus have announced - which will be to sponsor four cars in the German ATS Formula 3 Cup - is making me wonder if there is anything that Bahar hasn't tried sticking a Group Lotus sticker on.

We have the Formula 1 sponsorship deal, a deal with ART Grand Prix for GP2 and GP3 branded teams, a sponsorship deal with Kolles to run a Group Lotus branded LMP2 car (with a Judd engine) and are a nominated reserve team in the GTE class for this years Le Mans team, a deal with Judd and a number of IndyCar teams to run both Lotus tuned engines and sponsorship package and now this. According to Racecar Engineering, there is even a tarmac rally version of the Exige in the works right now - dubbed the R-GT - which was shaken down in late December last year and due to be launched this year (and - for once - it seems that Group Lotus are not promoting this using the "JPS lite" livery, but a red, white and light blue livery instead). http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... irst-time/

Looking at that list, it seems as if Bahar really is sticking by his promise to promote the Group Lotus name in every major series and then some - but the more that Bahar spreads the Lotus marque around, the more you start to wonder where the money is coming to fund all of these sponsorship deals. That is even more pertinent now that the Malaysian Government is selling its stake in Proton, since it means that Group Lotus can't rely on Proton bailing them out for much longer...

The Exige R-GT was registered for Rallye Monte Carlo and never showed up. Not a good sign for the programme. Especially now the WRC has descended to the state it's currently in...

Posted: **15 Feb 2012, 21:23**

eurobrun wrote:1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music

I'm gonna be honest. With his love for 1990s britpop, i've occasionally thought he was my real brother. As my own brother doesn't care for it, other than Oasis.

Posted: **16 Feb 2012, 19:50**

redbulljack14 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music

I'm gonna be honest. With his love for 1990s britpop, i've occasionally thought he was my real brother. As my own brother doesn't care for it, other than Oasis.

Maybe in an alternate universe, we are brothers

It's lonely being an indie/Britpop fan at my sixth form. Most people either listen to chart music, or are into goth/emo/metal genres. It was even worse at high school. Some people there had no idea who Noel Gallagher was, or Oasis. Cue much facepalming and headesking until I mentioned the magic word beginning with W and ending with L, then they realised :roll:

Posted: **16 Feb 2012, 20:03**

kostas22 wrote:
mario wrote:Sorry to bump this back up, but a recent article by Joe Saward on the latest sponsorship deal that Lotus have announced - which will be to sponsor four cars in the German ATS Formula 3 Cup - is making me wonder if there is anything that Bahar hasn't tried sticking a Group Lotus sticker on.

We have the Formula 1 sponsorship deal, a deal with ART Grand Prix for GP2 and GP3 branded teams, a sponsorship deal with Kolles to run a Group Lotus branded LMP2 car (with a Judd engine) and are a nominated reserve team in the GTE class for this years Le Mans team, a deal with Judd and a number of IndyCar teams to run both Lotus tuned engines and sponsorship package and now this. According to Racecar Engineering, there is even a tarmac rally version of the Exige in the works right now - dubbed the R-GT - which was shaken down in late December last year and due to be launched this year (and - for once - it seems that Group Lotus are not promoting this using the "JPS lite" livery, but a red, white and light blue livery instead). http://www.racecar-engineering.com/news ... irst-time/

Looking at that list, it seems as if Bahar really is sticking by his promise to promote the Group Lotus name in every major series and then some - but the more that Bahar spreads the Lotus marque around, the more you start to wonder where the money is coming to fund all of these sponsorship deals. That is even more pertinent now that the Malaysian Government is selling its stake in Proton, since it means that Group Lotus can't rely on Proton bailing them out for much longer...

The Exige R-GT was registered for Rallye Monte Carlo and never showed up. Not a good sign for the programme. Especially now the WRC has descended to the state it's currently in...

I had noticed that, and by the looks of things there are a few people wondering what happened to the promised Exige R-GT entry - they seem to have withdrawn their entry before the final entry list was even announced, although there do not seem to have put out any explanation why. There was at least one car ready by the looks of things though - on the Group Lotus website there was a short clip of the R-GT being shaken down back in December - but the project seems to have gone very quiet all of a sudden.
On the other hand, given that the Monte Carlo Rallye descended into an utter farce with the timing system dispute and a relatively weak entry list by historic standard, perhaps it wasn't such a bad idea for Group Lotus to skip that round...

Posted: **16 Feb 2012, 23:15**

East Londoner wrote:It's lonely being an indie/Britpop fan at my sixth form. Most people either listen to chart music, or are into goth/emo/metal genres. It was even worse at high school. Some people there had no idea who Noel Gallagher was, or Oasis. Cue much facepalming and headesking until I mentioned the magic word beginning with W and ending with L, then they realised

Wankel? As in Mazda engines?

By the way, I know which song you're referring to... Honest.

Posted: **17 Feb 2012, 00:11**

East Londoner wrote:
redbulljack14 wrote:
eurobrun wrote:1. East Londoner has an epic taste in music

I'm gonna be honest. With his love for 1990s britpop, i've occasionally thought he was my real brother. As my own brother doesn't care for it, other than Oasis.

Maybe in an alternate universe, we are brothers

It's lonely being an indie/Britpop fan at my sixth form. Most people either listen to chart music, or are into goth/emo/metal genres. It was even worse at high school. Some people there had no idea who Noel Gallagher was, or Oasis. Cue much facepalming and headesking until I mentioned the magic word beginning with W and ending with L, then they realised

I never had it that bad at Sixth Form. Although to be honest, I am a metal fan too.

And there's a clear difference between liking Wonderwall and liking Oasis. You can also change that to Smells Like Teen Spirit and Nirvana.

Posted: **17 Feb 2012, 09:43**

I was similarly a pariah all through school in the 80s and college in the mid-90s being a fan of the Beatles and other 60s music. Britpop is okay, I have a few of the albums (predictably, I especially like Ocean Colour Scene) but it seemed to be a badge of honour in those days to rip off 60s bands, so I'm all too aware that there's very little original in Britpop.

Posted: **17 Feb 2012, 10:31**

I listened to Metal in school during the time when everyone listened to *gasp* Backstreet Boys and *gulp* Take That. Yep, even some of the guys. But I am pretty sure the reason I (and my friends too) was a pariah for the class is because of being a gamer geek and liking anime.

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