rFAF1 1980: SEASON OVER

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Jun 2013, 00:17

Guillaume Gauthier wrote:Eh, I made a mistake. Zat is pretty much eet. I pushed too 'ard in ze beginning to try and maximse my early position, and I 'it a kerb too fast and ze car was uncontrollable after zat. It is a shame for ze team, I only 'ope I can make it up to ze team next time.

The entire Renault team wrote:

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 29 Jun 2013, 00:42

Haven't been in this thread for a while. I'm now back in charge of Shadow.

Pasta, FMecha is talking about Cossie engines for his Tyrrell team and wants me to respond. What exactly do I do? Am I in charge of Turbo Cosworth's?

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Jun 2013, 00:53

AdrianSutil wrote:Haven't been in this thread for a while. I'm now back in charge of Shadow.

Please don't bring Henton back to the team, I beg you! Voeckler will make Bellof look silly given the chance!

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 29 Jun 2013, 01:09

Ron Dennis wrote:Although Guillame tried his utmost best to push our team forward for a solid finish to the Canadian Grand Prix,unfortunately his effort was too great for the tightest of confines that is the Circuit Ile-Notre Dame,thus his premature end to what could have been a fantastic result which could have had both cars in the points.

Teddy Mayer wrote:Bloody useless techno babble. And how could we have double points if ONE OF OUR CARS IS NOT IN THE RACE! I'M GOING TO FIND THE MAN WHO BLOCKED DALY ON TRACK.I'LL FIND HIM SOON ENOUGH!!

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 29 Jun 2013, 08:27

AdrianSutil wrote:Haven't been in this thread for a while. I'm now back in charge of Shadow.

Pasta, FMecha is talking about Cossie engines for his Tyrrell team and wants me to respond. What exactly do I do? Am I in charge of Turbo Cosworth's?

Yes, currently you are the representative for Ford. You can either accept to provide engines to Tyrrell, or deny, but the way you make a deal with FMecha is up to you!

All current manufacturer representatives:
Renault - BlindCaveSalamander
Honda - Phoenix
Ferrari - JeremyMcClean
Lamborghini - Stramala
Ford - AdrianSutil
Audi - JJMonty
Talbot - shinji
Hart - This
Alfa Romeo - Klon

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Jun 2013, 13:25

Pasta, how were Brancatelli and Nicchi getting on before the DNF's?

Edward Restov wrote:Obviously its a shame we couldn't finish today, as we had the pace to challenge for points, but its nice to see that Gianfranco and Valentino are getting used to the car and our way of working. We need to work on our reliability for sure, but people forget we are a small privateer team in our first season of F1, running two inexperienced drivers, and we have shown ourselves to be one of the top 6 teams in terms of pure race pace.

I certainly don't blame Valentino for his accident, many people went off the track today so he was in good company. The speeds obviously there with him, we just need to help him get the most out of his latent talent.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Jun 2013, 13:30

I dunno about Brancatelli, but I'm certain Nicchi would've scored a podium.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 29 Jun 2013, 13:39

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Pasta, how were Brancatelli and Nicchi getting on before the DNF's?

Brancatelli was running a solid 4th before his engine blew, he was roughly 10 seconds behind Alain Prost on the road.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 29 Jun 2013, 13:47

Stramala wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Haven't been in this thread for a while. I'm now back in charge of Shadow.

Please don't bring Henton back to the team, I beg you! Voeckler will make Bellof look silly given the chance!

Henton was only in the team on a race-by-race basis and he's been rather poor so keeping Voeckler in the team has shown a better performance so he'll stay don't worry.

As for Tyrrell, they're rather poor at the moment and Ford don't want to supply poor teams as it looks bad for potential customers. Ford only want to support teams that have a good chance of being on a similar competitive position as Shadow. Therefore, Ford WILL allow one car to run a temporary Turbo engine for the next two races, to see if it'll make a difference to their performances. FMecha, it's your choice which driver gets the turbo but I'll advise you to choose your better driver to have a bigger chance of success.

Post by **Londoner** » 29 Jun 2013, 13:48

Holy shite, Clarke finished 5th! :shock:

Bruno Giacomelli is hereby sacked from Walter Wolf Racing with immediate effect. His replacement will be announced in due course.

Aerospeed · Post by **Aerospeed** » 29 Jun 2013, 14:05

A large decrease in body drag would do fine right now. We're going to need all the help we can get!

Also,

REPORT: Ferrari designer sacked, replaced by Montezemolo
"Clearly I'm the only one around here that knows what they're doing here," says Luca

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 29 Jun 2013, 14:08

AdrianSutil wrote:
Stramala wrote:
AdrianSutil wrote:Haven't been in this thread for a while. I'm now back in charge of Shadow.

Please don't bring Henton back to the team, I beg you! Voeckler will make Bellof look silly given the chance!

Henton was only in the team on a race-by-race basis and he's been rather poor so keeping Voeckler in the team has shown a better performance so he'll stay don't worry.

As for Tyrrell, they're rather poor at the moment and Ford don't want to supply poor teams as it looks bad for potential customers. Ford only want to support teams that have a good chance of being on a similar competitive position as Shadow. Therefore, Ford WILL allow one car to run a temporary Turbo engine for the next two races, to see if it'll make a difference to their performances. FMecha, it's your choice which driver gets the turbo but I'll advise you to choose your better driver to have a bigger chance of success.

The offer from Renault is still on the table, FMecha... it will cover both cars until the end of the season.

WaffleCat · Post by **WaffleCat** » 29 Jun 2013, 14:29

McLaren are going for a medium increase in engine torque.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Jun 2013, 17:22

Restov will go for a medium upgrade reagarding the random element of reliability.

JJMonty · Post by **JJMonty** » 29 Jun 2013, 17:42

Audi are delighted with scoring their first ever championship point! Though we can't help but feel some irony that Jochen Mass scored the point!

However the performance of our car has been poor, but so has our reliability - we are glad to have at least 1 point, achievement for season 1 met! Now to improve on this!

Audi would like to arrange a test session (if possible?) at the Salzburgring with Marc Surer, the focus being on reliability and driver development.

Based on the results of the test, we would like a medium upgrade on either Reliability (if the car blows up before the test is complete), or reduction in body mass if the pace is poor

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 29 Jun 2013, 17:54

Shadow would like the biggest possible upgrade on reliability please. Specifically the engine if possible.

FMecha · Post by **FMecha** » 29 Jun 2013, 18:35

I'll say it again:

FMecha wrote:Last-ditch medium chassis upgrade, please?

In another news, Hiroshi Takagi will try the Ford turbos.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 29 Jun 2013, 20:23

FMecha wrote:I'll say it again:
FMecha wrote:Last-ditch medium chassis upgrade, please?

In another news, Hiroshi Takagi will try the Ford turbos.

Excellent news. Ok then, is a two race deal as mentioned before. Ford are not bothered if he retires or not, we want to know is relative pace during the races. So don't worry if he pulls off on lap 9 or something.

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 29 Jun 2013, 21:21

Large chassis mass reduction for Merzario.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 29 Jun 2013, 23:05

JJMonty wrote:Audi are delighted with scoring their first ever championship point! Though we can't help but feel some irony that Jochen Mass scored the point!

However the performance of our car has been poor, but so has our reliability - we are glad to have at least 1 point, achievement for season 1 met! Now to improve on this!

Audi would like to arrange a test session (if possible?) at the Salzburgring with Marc Surer, the focus being on reliability and driver development.

Based on the results of the test, we would like a medium upgrade on either Reliability (if the car blows up before the test is complete), or reduction in body mass if the pace is poor

JLD will join Audi at the Salzburgring test with Bleekemolen and Keegan. We'd also like a medium reduction in body mass.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 29 Jun 2013, 23:25

If its ok, Restov will join JLD and Audi at the Salzburgring test with Nicchi and Brancatelli

the Masked Lapwing · Post by **the Masked Lapwing** » 29 Jun 2013, 23:43

Brabham will try for a medium reliability upgrade.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Jun 2013, 14:56

JeremyMcClean wrote:A large decrease in body drag would do fine right now. We're going to need all the help we can get!

0-5 - Detrimental
6-45 - Success
46-100 - Failure

56! - Ferrari have just 1 upgrade remaining!

WaffleCat wrote:McLaren are going for a medium increase in engine torque.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-55 - Success
56-100 - Failure

75! - McLaren have 2 upgrades remaining.

takagi_for_the_win wrote:Restov will go for a medium upgrade reagarding the random element of reliability.

0-5 Detrimental
6-55 - Success
56-100 - Fialure

45 - Success. The random element is the range in which a number will be selected by the game to either add or subtract from the stated average engine life. So, in other words, if your engine has a low reliability average, and a low random element, the engine will consistently fail while the race is underway. A high reliability average with a low random element means the engine is more likely to finish a race.

JJMonty wrote:Audi would like to arrange a test session (if possible?) at the Salzburgring with Marc Surer, the focus being on reliability and driver development.

Based on the results of the test, we would like a medium upgrade on either Reliability (if the car blows up before the test is complete), or reduction in body mass if the pace is poor

Yes, testing is allowed, and I'll get to running the test after the Monday deadline. Salzburgring is a championship venue, so that will dock 4 tokens from Audi's testing total. Audi now has 10 tokens. Noted about the upgrades, that will leave Audi with 2 upgrades remaining.

AdrianSutil wrote:Shadow would like the biggest possible upgrade on reliability please. Specifically the engine if possible.

The engine is the only form of reliability that can be upgraded (specifically, the reliability parameter in rFactor is governed in the engine file. The game randomly decides what kind of failure will occur, suspension, gearbox or engine.)

0-5 - Detrimental
6-45 - Success
46-100 - Failure

17! - This leaves Shadow with just 1 upgrade remaining.

FMecha wrote:Last-ditch medium chassis upgrade, please?

In another news, Hiroshi Takagi will try the Ford turbos.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-55 - Success
46-100 - Failure

49! This leaves Tyrrell with 1 upgrade remaining.

Noted about Takagi's engine change. Tyrrell-Ford will be a different constructor to Tyrrell-Cosworth.

Stramala wrote:Large chassis mass reduction for Merzario.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-45 - Success
46-100 - Failure

98! - Merzario have 2 upgrades left.

Wizzie wrote:JLD will join Audi at the Salzburgring test with Bleekemolen and Keegan. We'd also like a medium reduction in body mass.

Noted. JLD now have 10 testing tokens remaining.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-55 - Success
56-100 - Failure

9! - JLD have 2 upgrades remaining.

takagi_for_the_win wrote:If its ok, Restov will join JLD and Audi at the Salzburgring test with Nicchi and Brancatelli

Noted. I dont think there's any union clash. Restov now have 10 testing tokens.

the Masked Lapwing wrote:Brabham will try for a medium reliability upgrade.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-55 - Success
56-100 - Failure

30! - This leaves Brabham with 1 upgrade remaining.

The deadline for upgrades and testing is 00:01 GMT Tuesday morning! Any upgrades/test applications after that will be ignored!

As a reminder, every team a specific amount of upgrade opportunities. Each team started out after Monaco with 5. You can apply for an upgrade after every race if you so wish until you run out of upgrades! The rule is still only 1 upgrade opportunity between rounds.

Everyone was also granted with 14 testing tokens. The amount of tokens each team has is on page 1, along with everybody's upgrade opportunities remaining. A test at a track is worth a set amount of tokens, with the pricing system outlined in that post.

Remember, the deadline for any driver changes/engine changes is 23:59 GMT on Friday 5th July.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Jun 2013, 15:08

Renault will head over to Mosport before returning to Europe, in order to conduct a test with Jean-Pierre Jabouille and Carlos Reutemann. Invitations will also be sent to Jeremy-Etienne Voeckler and Valentino Nicchi, with their respective bosses permission, of course. The general focus of the test will be engine reliability.

Gerudo Dragon · Post by **Gerudo Dragon** » 30 Jun 2013, 15:11

Nicchi accepts the invitation, if Restov approves

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 30 Jun 2013, 16:25

Merzario will go testing at Mugello, with Andretti, Prost, Alboreto and Guidetti present.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 30 Jun 2013, 17:55

darkapprentice77 wrote:Nicchi accepts the invitation, if Restov approves

We will allow Nicchi to go to the Renault test, but we would like to remind both Valentino and bosses at Renault that Valentino is contracted to us

EDIT: So long as it doesn't clash with our test. If it does, stuff Renault, you're coming to the Salzburgring mate

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Jun 2013, 17:57

[takagi_for_the_win"]

darkapprentice77 wrote:Nicchi accepts the invitation, if Restov approves

We will allow Nicchi to go to the Renault test, but we would like to remind both Valentino and bosses at Renault that Valentino is contracted to us

EDIT: So long as it doesn't clash with our test. If it does, stuff Renault, you're coming to the Salzburgring mate[/quote]

We're heading straight to Mosport after the race, so Nicchi should be able to attend both.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 30 Jun 2013, 18:31

Osella takes the gamble and attempts a LARGE engine torque upgrade.

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:20

Testing schedules noted.

Nuppiz wrote:Osella takes the gamble and attempts a LARGE engine torque upgrade.

0-5 - Detrimental
6-45 - Success
46-100 - Failure

78! - This leaves Osella with 2 upgrades.

FISA rule proposal: Upgrade tokens can be swapped for entries. A team not entering one race would account for an extra upgrade token being given to them. This would only apply if teams entered NO cars for a specific race. I.e., no only entering one car to gain extra upgrades.

I would like each team principle to vote on this issue by Friday, 5th July. Enough votes for the change would see it implemented this season. If he majority vote no the rule proposal will be dropped. You may align yourselves with your unions for this issue.

Post by **Nuppiz** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:23

As said on the chat, Osella is supporting this proposal as it allows us to skip races we know we won't qualify for in exchange for more upgrades.

Klon · Post by **Klon** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:25

As I have said in the chat, I'd say the rule is agreeable if we limit the number of races that can be skipped.

Alfa Romeo goes for a Medium Decrease of chassis mass.

Salamander · Post by **Salamander** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:27

Klon wrote:As I have said in the chat, I'd say the rule is agreeable if we limit the number of races that can be skipped.

Renault agrees with this.

takagi_for_the_win · Post by **takagi_for_the_win** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:31

Restov are against this proposal

JJMonty · Post by **JJMonty** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:41

Audi are in favour of the theory of this propsal - (as you would expect from a lower ranked team), however I thought upgrades were limted to 1 per "x" amount of races?

pasta_maldonado · Post by **pasta_maldonado** » 30 Jun 2013, 22:50

JJMonty wrote:Audi are in favour of the theory of this propsal - (as you would expect from a lower ranked team), however I thought upgrades were limted to 1 per "x" amount of races?

The system changed after Monaco to a permitted 5 upgrades per year, which can now be applied format any point in the season. However, it is still one upgrade per race, so you can't ask for all 5 upgrades after one race for instance

Post by **DemocalypseNow** » 30 Jun 2013, 23:18

Merzario are against the proposal.

TomWazzleshaw · Post by **TomWazzleshaw** » 30 Jun 2013, 23:23

As JLD will be one of the teams that'll lose the most from this proposal, we will vote against it.

AdrianSutil · Post by **AdrianSutil** » 01 Jul 2013, 02:25

Shadow are against this proposal.

Nessafox · Post by **Nessafox** » 01 Jul 2013, 15:42

RAM would like to request a medium engine top speed upgrade, and would like to test with Emilio De Villota and Mike Thackwell in Silverstone. (i couldn't do this before as i wasn't back home yet, but i don't mind if this counts for the next race)

About the proposal: it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. In fact, UIT thinks that teams should get more tokens when they participate in more more races. Otherwise, teams that love the sport and enter every race will be victim.