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Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 18:24
by CaptainGetz12
FMecha wrote:About Korea, why anyone did not mention the Proto/Oullim Spirra yet? Although I think only the people (read: players) of Gran Turismo knows that.

;)


Well it was in Forza 2 as well as far as I can remember. Not in any of the others though.

And now I have a new car manufacter to use in other series around these forums :)

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 18:33
by roblo97
CaptainGetz12 wrote:
FMecha wrote:About Korea, why anyone did not mention the Proto/Oullim Spirra yet? Although I think only the people (read: players) of Gran Turismo knows that.

;)


Well it was in Forza 2 as well as far as I can remember. Not in any of the others though.

And now I have a new car manufacter to use in other series around these forums :)

it was not in forza 3 but I'm 95% sure it was not DLC

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 21:02
by go_Rubens
FullMetalJack wrote:I don't know enough about the Motorland Aragon circuit.


It was built in 2009 for MotoGP and to a certain extent, auto racing. The MotoGP Spanish GP (I think) has been held there since it opened, and is a fantastic layout for MotoGP.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 09 Sep 2013, 21:21
by roblo97
go_Rubens wrote:
FullMetalJack wrote:I don't know enough about the Motorland Aragon circuit.


It was built in 2009 for MotoGP and to a certain extent, auto racing. The MotoGP Spanish GP (I think) has been held there since it opened, and is a fantastic layout for MotoGP.

Ah, that's where Hayden ended up on the wrong side of the tyres last year
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LsjJWHw7Dzo

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 17:14
by andrew2209
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 17:33
by Salamander
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?


They could scrounge up a street circuit somewhere I guess.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 17:52
by pi314159
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?

They have Turagua, but it's far away from F1 standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodromo_de_Turagua

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 21:31
by apple2009
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?


They have San Carlos.

Image

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 12 Sep 2013, 21:53
by dr-baker
pi314159 wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?

They have Turagua, but it's far away from F1 standard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autodromo_de_Turagua

That Wikipedia article links to the circuit's official website. Whose domain name expired on 5th August 2013 at 7:13 pm...

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 19:29
by Shizuka
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpRwKoBBbsA

Here's a video from 2007, recorded on this track. I would have linked a 2012 touring car race video, if YouTube didn't shite itself yet again, but that video didn't start for me at all.
I don't know if that is even possible to have a race here without some huge improvements. The asphalt quality for example looks below par.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 21:12
by mario
apple2009 wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?


They have San Carlos.

Image

Both circuits, I believe, would fall slightly short of the minimum length requirement given by the FIA of 4.3km (Monaco being given special dispensation), although this could in theory reach that minimum length with a small extension. Realistically, though, the likelihood of this circuit reaching the required safety standards is pretty low to say the least - the more likely scenario would be one of the semi street circuits that we've seen in Valencia and Singapore (i.e. set in urban environments but the infrastructure being at least partially built with motorsport in mind).

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 21:43
by nome66
i like how the minimum length is just outside of Talladega so people won't suggest ovals, even in the slightest. well played, Ecclestodt...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talladega_Superspeedway

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 22:11
by apple2009
mario wrote:
apple2009 wrote:
andrew2209 wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/109825

Do they even have a circuit at the moment?


They have San Carlos.

Image

Both circuits, I believe, would fall slightly short of the minimum length requirement given by the FIA of 4.3km (Monaco being given special dispensation), although this could in theory reach that minimum length with a small extension. Realistically, though, the likelihood of this circuit reaching the required safety standards is pretty low to say the least - the more likely scenario would be one of the semi street circuits that we've seen in Valencia and Singapore (i.e. set in urban environments but the infrastructure being at least partially built with motorsport in mind).

In another thread at this very forum someone said the minimum length is 3.5 kilometers and before that I always thought it was 3.8125 kilometers. I really am confused now.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 13 Sep 2013, 23:13
by watka
How much will the Venezuelan government cough up to have the race? That's the main question.

When Montoya was a title contender, no one saw a reason to have another race in South America, so Maldonado certainly isn't entitled to "have his own race". The race won't make any money in terms of boosting the automotive industry, so it would come down purely to the $$$ paid to hold the race.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 00:11
by Frentzen127
watka wrote:How much will the Venezuelan government cough up to have the race? That's the main question.

When Montoya was a title contender, no one saw a reason to have another race in South America, so Maldonado certainly isn't entitled to "have his own race". The race won't make any money in terms of boosting the automotive industry, so it would come down purely to the $$$ paid to hold the race.

True, not to mention the automotive industry is doing quite well on its own around these parts. Having a race in northern south america to boost the industry would be completely redundant and idiotic.
Besides people are apprehensive enough of Brazil, they'd never agree to a race being held in Venezuela, or say, Colombia way back when.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 14 Sep 2013, 06:51
by mario
apple2009 wrote:In another thread at this very forum someone said the minimum length is 3.5 kilometers and before that I always thought it was 3.8125 kilometers. I really am confused now.

Sorry, I stand corrected as I appear to have conflated two slightly different factors.

The FIA's regulations do in fact state that the minimum length for an F1 circuit should be 3.5km, although it appears that they have slightly relaxed their requirements now (it used to say that they "will" take into account a minimum length of 3.5km, but now they "may" take it into consideration instead). However, it appears to be the case that, with the exception of Monaco, the shortest circuits that have been used in practise in recent years have had a minimum length of 4.3km, with Interlagos being the shortest conventional circuit in use right now (4.309km).

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 19:57
by Salamander

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 20:25
by roblo97

I so hope this goes ahead because I think the track looks quite fast for a street circuit and i think it would be ballsy to race around :)

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 20:34
by good_Ralf
roblomas52 wrote:

I so hope this goes ahead because I think the track looks quite fast for a street circuit and i think it would be ballsy to race around :)


Virtual onboard laps

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 21 Sep 2013, 21:11
by go_Rubens
roblomas52 wrote:

I so hope this goes ahead because I think the track looks quite fast for a street circuit and i think it would be ballsy to race around :)


The elevation change looks awesome. I think it could throw an unpredictable race, depending on the new cars.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 21:25
by watka
Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

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Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 21:37
by roblo97
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

I accept the challenge

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 21:37
by Aerospeed
Honestly, I think 22 is way too many races in a season - this needs to be an exclusive list of F1 tracks, not something that includes everyone wanting to have a race. Plus, it makes every race that much better. 18 is my ideal number, 20 is a realistic hope for me.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 27 Sep 2013, 22:12
by watka
roblomas52 wrote:
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

I accept the challenge


Bring it on!

Not that either of us can actually influence what happens in any way.

So there's nothing really to bring on.

So I'll shut up. :|


Do you have an avatar for me or will you make me "wear" the Vettel one?

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 28 Sep 2013, 09:25
by roblo97
watka wrote:
roblomas52 wrote:
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

I accept the challenge


Bring it on!

Not that either of us can actually influence what happens in any way.

So there's nothing really to bring on.

So I'll shut up. :|


Do you have an avatar for me or will you make me "wear" the Vettel one?

I have an avatar but I shall post it later because I am in the Basingstoke Apple store now

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 03 Oct 2013, 10:47
by madmark1974
Not sure if this would be the best topic to post this in ...

Sirotkin does Sochi (well sort of) : http://youtu.be/SKQZA6mdeEE

Don't expect too much!

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 03 Oct 2013, 11:38
by CoopsII
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

Keep calm and what? Its a bit illegible.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 03 Oct 2013, 12:29
by dr-baker
CoopsII wrote:
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

Keep calm and what? Its a bit illegible.

I think it says, "Keep Calm and Hate on Sebastian Vettel." Either that or love him...

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 03 Oct 2013, 12:59
by pi314159
dr-baker wrote:
CoopsII wrote:
watka wrote:Anything fancies an avatar challenge?

I bet that there will not be a race at New Jersey next year. If whoever challenges me loses, they will have to use the following as an avatar:

Image

Keep calm and what? Its a bit illegible.

I think it says, "Keep Calm and Hate on Sebastian Vettel." Either that or love him...

It says "Keep Calm and love Sebastian Vettel"

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 03 Oct 2013, 23:20
by watka
I thought the heart made it obvious.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 04 Oct 2013, 11:34
by dr-baker
watka wrote:I thought the heart made it obvious.

There are times when I look at a heart like that and think it looks like a pair of buttocks.

And my comment above was facetious. Sorry.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 04:01
by go_Rubens
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112751

So, if they do get the gig for an F1 race, who disappears? New Jersey or Austin? Or both? Surely both New Jersey and Austin stay together on the calendar if these guys get the contract for a race back for the first time since 1983.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 07:50
by CoopsII
go_Rubens wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112751

So, if they do get the gig for an F1 race, who disappears? New Jersey or Austin? Or both? Surely both New Jersey and Austin stay together on the calendar if these guys get the contract for a race back for the first time since 1983.

We dont really expect the NJ race to happen do we?

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 07:52
by roblo97
CoopsII wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112751

So, if they do get the gig for an F1 race, who disappears? New Jersey or Austin? Or both? Surely both New Jersey and Austin stay together on the calendar if these guys get the contract for a race back for the first time since 1983.

We dont really expect the NJ race to happen do we?

How about this.
USGP West: Long Beach
USGP East: New Jersey
Americas GP: Texas

Sorted.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 08:22
by Salamander
CoopsII wrote:
go_Rubens wrote:http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/112751

So, if they do get the gig for an F1 race, who disappears? New Jersey or Austin? Or both? Surely both New Jersey and Austin stay together on the calendar if these guys get the contract for a race back for the first time since 1983.

We dont really expect the NJ race to happen do we?


Are we expecting Long Beach to happen then? Because I'd say the odds of the NJ GP going ahead are higher.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 08:24
by CoopsII
roblomas52 wrote:How about this.
USGP West: Long Beach
USGP East: New Jersey
Americas GP: Texas
Sorted.

Wow. Just think, all those US races and barely enough US interest for just one!

And, no this Long Beach nonsense is just that. And I dont think Gene Haas will start a team up either. Although, just the other day I 'Liked' the US-F1 Facebook page even though its had no activity for years BECAUSE I STILL BELIEVE!

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 12:33
by Ataxia
Out of all the places F1 could go to, here's a surprising candidate.

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 13:40
by Aerospeed
Ataxia wrote:Out of all the places F1 could go to, here's a surprising candidate.


"Facilitated by Flavio Briatore?" Oh dear...

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 15:56
by shinji
Ataxia wrote:Out of all the places F1 could go to, here's a surprising candidate.


oil-rich

Re: What Tracks Will Get the Boot?

Posted: 05 Mar 2014, 15:59
by eagleash
Aerospeed wrote:
Ataxia wrote:Out of all the places F1 could go to, here's a surprising candidate.


"Facilitated by Flavio Briatore?" Oh dear...


Who will (according to the report I read) pocket a 7 FIGURE sum for his efforts!